Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:08:07 -0400

From: "Diane McGuire" <dianemcg@ici.net>

Hi, QHLers,

I have been behind in my readings due to a move, but I am excited to hear

that the RI book is finally being published. I agree that the price is

outrageous. I know from personal experience as a yearbook advisor that the

price of books is based as much on the number of copies published as on the

size, quality, photos. They must be doing a very small run. I will be

ordering a copy t omorrow because my grandmother's quilt is featured in the

book. She came from near Quebec and settled in a Canadian enclave in

Pawtucket. As a result of the documentation there has been a renewed

interest in this community and the quilt was also featured at a special

museum exhibit near Quebec of quilts made by this group. I am surprised

that there was a show of the quilts in Providence and I was not asked to

loan my quilt to the show or even told about it. I live in southeastern

Massachusetts so I don't get the RI news.

Since the information on my grandmother's quilt in the book is information I

provided I do not believe it would be any copyright infringement if I

relayed that information to the group when the book comes out as long as I

retell it in my own words. I will also post a picture of the quilt and I

have written out directions in both inches and metric to reproduce the

quilt. I can also post pictures of my grandmother and her four sisters in

beautiful Gibson girl blouses.

That was the only quilt I took with me to the apartment I am in now except

the one on my bed. All my other antique quilts and ones I made are at my

Dad's house.

Diane in still soggy Massachusetts where I still can't find my toaster or my

iron.

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:21:29 -0500

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>

My mind is befuddled this week. I have a client in need of information and

I'm not thinking clearly.....Does anyone know of anything that will remove

or lighten scorched marks on fabric? Home remedies? I think I remember my

grandmother telling me that white vinegar steamed into the fabric on a

white towel worked.....but then that may have been for fold stains. I'm

afraid that she's outta luck, but I thought I'd ask......other problem is

that none of the fabric has been prewashed so the bleeding problem is likely.

TIA

Laura

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:34:05 -0400

From: Judy White <jawhite@courant.infi.net>

You didn't say if the fabric is white or not, but my mother always used

lemon juice, salt and sunshine, the latter being in short supply here in

Connecticut. But that was on white or very light fabric. Let us know

if you find a remedy.

Judy White

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:01:14 EDT

From: CToczek@aol.com

Valerie and QHL,

Your point of view regarding MacArthur's personality is well taken. I

showed the ebay photo to my DH, a military historian and instructor here at

West Point. He said, "It's a nice quilt, but I'm not much of a MacArthur

man." (He's more of a Patton man, who was another arrogant *#!%. <G>)

When I made the comment to the list about the quilt being suitable for

West Point or another museum, I was thinking of the quilt from the maker's

perspective, not the war general the quilt celebrates. Consider this: there

may be those who feel compelled to make a quilt honoring the current

president's term of office. There are also those who now and in the future

will neither agree with, nor understand, why the quilt was made. Think of

the 19th century quilts made using campaign fabrics, or the Civil War quilts,

both Union and Confederate, or even the Prohibition quilts. The messages in

those quilts teach us more than just fabric styles, twists of thread and

fiber content. They help us read the minds of the makers and their times.

That's why I loved the MacArthur quilt.

Respectfully,

Carla Toczek

West Point, NY

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:06:02 EDT

From: JQuilt@aol.com

a quilter/friend gave me a stack (about 40) of grandmother's garden blocks

and a stack ( a couple of 100) of paper basted hexagons and some nice sized

pieces of some of the material used in the above....

i would say that the fabric is from the 40s & 50s(possibly 30s too)

what's surprising is that the paper hexagons are all cut very exactly...but

the method the person used, was to cut the fabric, very inexactly, somewhere

near the dimensions of the template and then just fold and neatly baste it to

the very precise paper...she then sewed the hexagons together English paper

piecing style...with very tiny stitches...

i know that i will never make a quilt of the blocks or hexagons...i will wash

and use the fabric...

what are the chances of finding the exact dates for any of this..?

jean

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:17:18 -0400

From: "Judy Grow" <Judygrow@blast.net>

Mary,

I've resisted the zip-loc bag solution, except for duplicates that I

wouldn't mind trading. My stuff is in notebooks, in a few different ways.

The idea is not to handle them and contaminate them with the oil from your

hands.

I use slide sheets for the tiny 2" x 2" more modern ordering swatches.

I use baseball card sheets with (9) 2 1/2 x 3 1/2 slip in pockets per sheet.

And I use the top loader singles for sets of color runs and other unwieldy

pieces that I don't want to cut smaller. I first tack (zig-zag) these to

sheets of index weight paper. Yes, I know this is not acid free, but it is

such a wonderful weight and gives me a place to write a description or date.

I've often thought of using a hole puncher to punch holes in each section or

sheet, but figure since it is open at the top there must be some circulation

already going on.

I'd love to hear from anyone else who "swatches" and get any new tips from

them. Setting up some trades wouldn't be a bad idea also. I know Laura's

VQTS will probably do that, but I find it near impossible to be in Texas

when she runs those days. Laura is the person who got me started swatching

in the first place.

Right now I have sitting on top of my computer (8) 3" x 3" swatches of

indigos and wash blues , 1 quaker grey ,and 1 neon print (red diagonals on

black with green circles and white flowers). I'd love to trade them with

someone for another set of 10 period swatches.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:11:13 EDT

From: JQuilt@aol.com

a little more info on the fabric pieces that came with the grandmother's

garden block stufff...one large piece of fabric has a sticker from a store on

it...with

2 1/3 yds for 85cents...

should i wash this fabric...i really want to use it or should i leave it

sticker and all

jean

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:19:59 EDT

From: KareQuilt@aol.com

This is a question posted on the Quilters Unlimited of Northern Virginia

electronic newsletter list today. Anyone care to help her and let us know

too?

Karen Alexander

6. HALF DOLL PINCUSHION HISTORY NEEDED - Judy Jackson (V) is looking

for any information on the history of the half doll pincushion. She

says, "I know they stared in Germany but need to know more. Year,

town, what the first one looked like, etc. I know there are some

books out there, but I am unable to locate them since they're out of

print. Please e-mail me at rtistk@juno.com"

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:44:39 EDT

From: KareQuilt@aol.com

Here is another question posted below from QU's electronic newsletter list

today also. Again, please share your answers with us too.

But first an associated story. I recently found something very similar to a

Whisker Guard at an antique shop in Dillard, GA. The one I found is a 8" to

9" deep sleeve that fits across the width of the top of the quilt (or sheet?)

like a shallow pillow case and was meant for a girl's bed. The depth varies

because the front-side was made in a swag design with a rather Marie

Antionette-like figure in big buffont skirt at two points out of 9 (dips) of

the swag. The back of this "sleeve" is a consistent 7" depth. The figure has

a purple gingham skirt, shoulders, neck, head and high hair-do in black

embroidery thread, and is "holding" a nosegay made of lace with a tiny yo-yo

center of the same stripped purple fabic that the whole front of the "guard"

is edged in. The tiny yo-yo has 6 French knots in it. She also has this

same lace attached at her shoulders to resemeble puffed sleeves. The skirt of

the figure (as well as the entire run of purple stipped binding along the

front edge of the "guard") is atached in a rather unusual way with a black

zig-zag stitch. I say "unusual" because it leaves the tinest gap between the

two pieces of fabric it is binding together which adds to the over all since

of "airyness' to the whole design of the motif. The tag on the piece said

"Bed Cover to Pull Sheets With ca. 1925) Karen Alexander

From the QU List: WHISKER GUARD & ADVERTISING THIMBLE HISTORY NEEDED - Judy

Jackson (V) is also looking for information on the history of the "whisker

guard." This was a plain fabric basted onto the top half of a quilt to

protect it from getting soiled from a man's beard. Judy's also researching

the history of the Advertising Thimble. (i.e. who was the first company to

have them, what year, etc.) If you have any information, please e-mail Judy

at rtistk@juno.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:37:18 EDT

From: QuiltFixer@aol.com

Jean, if this were mine and I were going to use the fabric, I would carefully

cut out a square of the fabric containing the sticker and a big enough piece

to see the pattern. I would keep that with my vintage fabric samples.

Toni B.

QuiltFixer@aol.com

The Redwork Lady

redworkldy@aol

www.redworklady.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:52:22 -0400

From: Judy White <jawhite@courant.infi.net>

Hi Jean. What a lovely present. I have about 25 gmfg blocks made

exactly the same way. My fabrics are 30's and 40's. The hex pattern is

1 3/8" wide and the blocks are about 8 1/2". The hex patterns have been

cut from old time cards so either the maker or her husband worked

somewhere where they punched a clock. No date on the card stock though

nor the name of the company.

Judy White

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:53:52 -0400

From: Judy White <jawhite@courant.infi.net>

In Betty Hagerman's book, A Meeting of the Sunbonnet Children," which

was published in 1979, she states that the Kate Greenaway drawings

were

probably the forerunners of the Sunbonnet patterns. Hagerman says

that

Bertha Corbett has been called "America's Kate Greenaway," and while

we

don't know for sure that she was influenced by Greenaway, most likely

she had seen the Greenaway drawings, and Corbett went on to develop

the

familiar Sunbonnet patterns of the early 20th century.

Hagerman touched on the question of whether the Sunbonnet patterns

are a

natural evolution of the Dutch and other ethnic-oriented dolls

brought

to America by European colonists. She seemed to think that the

ethnic-oriented patterns evolved after the popularity of the design

was

established (Hagerman 7).

Hagerman says "there is another source of confusion among pattern

names-the Dutch Doll of the eastern mountain region most likely

refers

to a sunbonnet pattern without regard to ethnic association with a

costume. A few Dutch Doll patterns retain the old-world costume, but

most are typical sunbonnet patterns found in other areas as well."

Old Dutch Cleanser used a variation of a sunbonnet pattern for their

trademark, The Old Dutch Cleanser Girl.

Sorry that this post is so long and I hope it helps. I know that

there

are people on the list more knowledgeable that I am re: Sunbonnet

Girls

and hope they add something to this discussion.

Judy White - Ct

Kris Driessen wrote:

> This question was posted on the QuiltHistory.com

> bulletin board. I thought it was interesting - I know

> the blocks LOOK different, but why? Is one a

> derivation of the other?

>

> Kris

>

> >I am trying to find out the difference between Sun

> >Bonnet Sue and Dutch Girl. Or is there a difference

> >at all? Thank you. Karen in Irving, Texas

> karenquilts@airmail.net

>

> Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites.

> http://invites.yahoo.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:58:01 -0400

From: Judy White <jawhite@courant.infi.net>

Judy, what a good idea to zigzag the samples onto stock or some kind of

paper. When I started collected vintage fabric and cutting samples for

a swatch book, I didn't know anything about what I was doing and I cut

3" samples and "glued" them to paper so I could write about them. Now I

know that is not the way to go, but I do like the idea of sewing them to

paper and then I can still write some notes.

Judy White

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:06:47 -0400

From: "sue reich" <mreich@ibm.net>

In response to your question about advertising thimbles. There is a

thimble museum in Northern Bavaria, Germany. I don't have the exact village

name at my finger tips (no pun intended). However, with a little research I

can find its location. In Germany it is called a Finger Hut Museum. If

anyone is interested, let me know. Sue Reich in Connecticut

where it snowed today!

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:23:00 -0500

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>

Hi folks.....

Watch out for a duplicate message about the scorching. I cant remember who

I got it from...The Monroes? anyway, the second message has the Happy exe.

worm opening. There was no attachment, just

"open happy exe." and a bunch of gobbledygoop in the text. Sorry I cant

remember just how got hit....I immediately deleted it, emptied the trash

and restarted the computer. Hopefully no one will get stung.

And BTW, thanks for the suggestions about the scorching. I think we'll just

get more fabric! (It's a new Fossil Fern color!)

Laura

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:48:36 -0500

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>

Ok, ok.....I wasn't going to jump in here.....too many irons in the fire

this week (namely scorched fabric!) But.......we do have a pretty good

article in the VQTS newsletter on Developing a Fabric Dating Workbook.

Do use archival quality top loading page protectors. They keep the fabric

tight enough in place so that it doesn't fly across the room, but open at

the top so air can get in. Like Julia, I too roll larger pieces, usually

wrapped in muslin, over a muslin covered tube....You can also get archival

quality pages for slides and 3x5 photos that are great for smaller

swatches......like the 3x3 squares from Benartex or Mary Koval <G> slide

holders work great for those GMFG pieces or DWR arch slices!

BTW, Back by Popular Demand (a lot of whining really <G>) the Vintage

Quilt & Textile Society will be offering another 2 day fabric dating

workshop Saturday and Sunday, July 8 & 9.....Quilt College is held at the

McDermott Library on the campus of the University of Texas at Dallas

(located in Richardson!)

If you want more information, please email <vqts1@airmail.net> and we'll

get information out to you. Space is limited so if you are interested

contact VQTS immediately.

Laura

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:22:35 EDT

From: JBQUILTOK@aol.com

In a message dated 04/26/00 8:19:29 AM Central Daylight Time,

Judygrow@blast.net writes:

<< Right now I have sitting on top of my computer (8) 3" x 3" swatches of

indigos and wash blues , 1 quaker grey ,and 1 neon print (red diagonals on

black with green circles and white flowers). >>

I've read enough of Judy's posts to know that storage on top of the computer

is not a long-term solution for her, but it seemed a little odd to admit it

in a post about archiving fabric swatches...

Janet

Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:15:49 -0400

From: "Judy Grow" <Judygrow@blast.net>

>Like Julia, I too roll larger pieces, usually

>wrapped in muslin, over a muslin covered tube....

I don't use tubes to roll my larger pieces around. By larger pieces, I mean

something like one repeat of a toile, or the like. I use a fairly

heavyweight mylar, 6-12" longer than the piece. It makes its own tube as I

roll. Of course, I buy it by the 500 foot roll for the picture framing

business, so I kind of have an endless supply.

For my yardage of vintage fabric I make my own bolt centers from a few

layers of acid free matboard or foamcore, again from the frame shop. Most

of this would get thrown in the dumpster. It is usually only 6 - 8" wide

and then cut to 36 or so inches long.

These are cutoffs from the larger sheets, and there is no other use for

them in the shop.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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