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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:40:29 -0600
From: "leigh/hcquilts" <hcquilts@peoplepc.com>


Karen, if nothing else your ersatz Carolina Lily quilt purchase is an object lesson to other would-be ebay bidders: before you even consider  bidding, email the seller for GOOD closeups of the fabric and quilting and written statements regarding the origin, age and condition of the quilt, and  confirm that seller's return policy is one you can live with. No reputable  seller will be put off by such requests, and in fact will be delighted to  have an opportunity to further market her quilt by giving you additional  information and assurances. It's also not a bad idea to "see seller's other  auctions" and take a look at seller's closed auctions as well, to get an idea  of seller's knowledge and general line of merchandise.

Personally, I deliberately purchased an import quilt a few years 
back, for a
dog blanket. Coordinates fine with the bedroom and the dog doesn't 
care
about the quality :)
.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:09:08 EST
From: Kittencat3@aol.com


I went to a lecture today at Historic Deerfield by Lynn Bassett on 
18th and 19th century wool quilts of New England. Lynn is the 
co-author of Northern Comfort and has worked at Old Sturbridge Village and 
the Connecticut Historical Society.

Lynn has spent much of the last ten years or so checking the 
collections of historic societies and museums throughout the Northeast in 
search of early quilts; places she's gone or written to include 
Winterthur, Old Sturbridge Village, the Metropolitan Museum, the Boston 
Museum of Fine Arts, the Wadsworth Atheneum, the Connecticut Historical 
Society, SPNEA, and Greenfield Village out in Michigan. She's viewed 
and sketched nearly 150 whole cloth quilts, many of which are only 
fragments, and is working on the possibility that there were regional 
quilting styles in early New England.

Best of all, she's curating a show of early wholecloth quilts at 
Historic Deerfield this December. I'll post dates, times and location as 
soon as it's available.

Lisa Evans
Easthampton, MA 

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:07:52 -0500
From: "pepper cory" <pepcory@mail.clis.com>



I'm looking for a copy of the new book by Francine Nicholle called 
"Boutis
Villes, Boutis Champs." It is a large hardback, with beautiful 
photos, and
the text is French. Please email me off-list if you have info on 
where I
might purchase this book. Amazon.com doesn't have a clue.
many thanks,
Pepper Cory


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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:10:17 -0500
From: mreich@attglobal.net

Attn: Audrey,
I found the Japanese film producer's name. She was most informed 
about
the quilt scene in Japan. If you send her an email it will be 
automatically
converted into Japanese. Likewise, when she answers you it will
automatically be converted into English. Please use my name and make
reference to the New England Quilt Museum and Connecticut's exhibit. 
I
apologize for posting this to the list but I did not have your email. 
Her
name is Hiromi Sakamoto at tempo1@earthlink.net. Good luck, sue 
reich

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:57:40 +1000
From: "Gary and Virginia Juster" <justers@uq.net.au>

Hello from Australia,
I have been added to the subscriber list but can't seem to access the 
=
archives etc. Do I have to make the donation before I can access the 
=
info? Also, I am asked for a password. I didn't receive any 
instruction =
for one when I subscribed. Can you help?
Virginia

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:28:23 -0900
From: "Gloria Hanrahan" <gloria@ak.net>

Black quilting thread. I remember reading about an era (30-40's ?) 
when =
this was commonly used. I seem to remember it being in a rather 
small =
geographical areas, maybe Arkansas? I must have read it in a library 
=
book since I cannot find any reference in my books. I saw a quilted 
=
cover on ebay, made with pink floral fabric, but quilted all over in 
a =
fan pattern in black thread.

Electric sewing machines. My reference books all mention treadle =
machines in reference to early dating for quilts. I know the 
stitches =
could be uneven. I don't have a reference to when the electric 
sewing =
machine became commonly used. I know in rural areas electricity 
wasn't =
available until well into the 60's in parts of the midwest. I 
purchased =
an older quilt top that was being advertised as the late 1880's. It 
=
appeared to me to be made in the 40's by looking at the fabric, but 
the =
borders and blocks are obviously machine stitched. There is no =
uneveness of the stitches, so I feel it would have had to be done 
with =
an electric machine.

Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:18:18 -0500
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com>


Once again Hazel Carter and Bunnie Jordan organized an 
outstanding
excursion into quilt history. The Fabric Dating Club (it's much more 
fun to
drop Fabric from the name and see the quizzical looks that women "of 
a
certain age" get when we announce where we are off to). Yesterday 
our topic
was "Quilts of the 1930s." It seemed like we all had lots of those. 
Not
only quilts, but blocks (my favorites had names and dates 
embroidered),
quilt pieces, feed sacks, fabric appeared from bags and pillowcases. 
You
probably couldn't have named a pattern from the period that someone 
sitting
around that table couldn't have whipped out to show.
One of the regulars seemed to have at least one of just about 
every
pattern: Grandmother's Flower Garden (in several sizes of hexagon and 
a
couple of different sets), Double Wedding Ring, Dresden Plate, 
Nosegay, Trip
Around the World, Roses a la Anne Orr. Another collector had an 
incredible
collection of kits: Magnolia, Roses, Apple Blossoms, Basket of 
Flowers and a
delightful crib quilt with babies floating on clouds.
I was fascinated by the story one woman told about her mother who
married in 1932. The bride was an artist and very modern. Her 
mother, the
teller of the story's grandmother, desperately wanted to give her 
daughter a
quilt. She made a double wedding ring in which each arc is a rainbow 
of
solid colors typical of the period. The quilt is stunning, but 
considering
it's unused condition probably didn't strike the young modern's 
fancy. She
received a second quilt (Posy) which, not surprisingly, was also 
unused.
I just got an email from our official historian and photographer, 
Karen
Alexander, saying that we had the largest attendance ever, 31. One 
of those
was Carol Crandall, QHL member from Maine, who read my last account 
of the
Dating Club and since she was visiting in Charlottesville, VA decided 
to
join us. Our next meeting will be Sat., March 23. I do think 
quilters are
the nicest people. Hazel suggested that we might want to support the 
"Adopt
a Quilt" project at the International Quilt Study Center at the 
University
of Nebraska. You can adopt a quilt for $250. An envelope went 
around the
table and came back to Hazel with more that $300 in it. I wonder if 
they'll
let our quilt come to visit us (G). I always say that I do have some
friends who aren't quilters, but I feel sorry for them.
Cinda on the Eastern Shore

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:27:51 -0500
From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdoc@sover.net>

Gloria wrote: "...treadle machines in reference to early dating for 
quilts.
I know the stitches could be uneven..."

Feed dogs were invented fairly early on, I am too tired to get up and 
double
check but probably by the 1860's. It is feed dogs that move the 
fabric
evenly and has nothing to do with the treadle mechanism per se. My
grandmother's 1913 Singer treadle which I now own made the most 
beautiful
even stitches, the evidence is in the christening gown I have from 
1916.

You may be thinking about the control of the speed or stopping the 
machine
which is tricky at first. And it is possible that not every early 
machine
made perfect stitches. Just like today's new Singers, Brothers, etc. 
<VBG>
--
Jan Drechsler in Vermont
Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher
www.sover.net/~bobmills

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:26:29 -0800
From: "Christine Thresh" <christine@winnowing.com>


Gloria Hanrahan<gloria@ak.net> wrote: . "My reference books all 
mention
treadle =
machines in reference to early dating for quilts. I know the 
stitches =
could be uneven."
And, she said: . "I purchased =
an older quilt top that was being advertised as the late 1880's. It 
=
appeared to me to be made in the 40's by looking at the fabric, but 
the =
borders and blocks are obviously machine stitched. There is no =
uneveness of the stitches, so I feel it would have had to be done 
with =
an electric machine."

I don't think it is possible to tell stitches made on an electric 
machine
from those made on a treadle. The old treadle machines make fine, 
even
stitches. I have three of them from the early 1900s (Singer, 
Franklin,
Wheeler & Wilson). It does not matter how fast or how slow you 
treadle, the
stitches are even.

Christine Thresh
on an island in the California Delta

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:38:54 -0700
From: "Debbie Guidi" <dlguidi@earthlink.net>


> Hi,

> I generally sit in the background & just absorb all of the 
knowledge on
the list, but I did want to comment on this post in VO2 #24. I have 
only 2
examples of quilts that have been machine quilted earlier than 1900, 
but, I
have been piecing and quilting quilts on both treadle machines & hand 
crank
machines for the past 2 years. I have never yet, in my experience, 
come
across one of my projects that has come up with an idenitifiably 
"uneven"
stitching pattern that would allow me(with 15 years of quilting
experience) or anyone else that I would show these items to, to label 
them
as non-electric machine made based on the evenness, or lack thereof, 
of the
stitching. I have several different types & manufacturers of 
machines,
from my 1890's German Wertheim handcrank (which is a clone of 
Singer's
Improved Family or "Model 12" machine) to my youngest, an English 
Jones
handcrank dating to about 1926 and use them all. I can not see any
identifiable variance in stitch evennesson any of them, and, yes, I 
have
checked with a magnifying glass. In fact, I just recently finished a 
queen
sized Dresden Plate quilt on my 1905 Singer VS27 treadle, which 
stitches
more evenly than my brand new Husqvarna Viking Rose. 

> Many electric machines made by at least the Singer Manufacturing 
Company
(a good example, since so many millions were made & sold) before 
probably
WWII were actually treadle or handcrank models that were refurbished 
with
an add-on, belt driven motor. Then, during the war years of WWII, 
many
machines were turned in to Singer for refurbishing to electric mode 
because
machines were not even produced during the early 1940's. So, many of 
the
"electrically" machine stitched items that are being examined may 
actually
have been stitched on machines that were originally people-powered. 
While
many areas of the country may not have had electricity until the 
1960's, I
don't think that this is an accurate method of trying to determine 
the date
of a piece of quilting history.

> Debbie Guidi in Peoria AZ 

> dlguidi@earthlink.net 



dlguidi@earthlink.net 

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:03:21 -0900
From: "Gloria Hanrahan" <gloria@ak.net>


Thanks so much for the information. I am sure I have read about the 
=
uneven stitch concept since I've not seen a treadle used. Now I wish 
I =
had asked to keep my grandmother's machine. It just never occured to 
me =
years ago that I would want it for anything other than "antique =
atmosphere". At least it went to my cousin. =20


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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:10:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmv@yahoo.com>

Read with interest the comments about the treadle
sewing machines. I know several Amish quilters who
ONLY sew on treadles and with my experiences from
trying to sew on them, the expertise of the person
operating the treadle peddle probably contributes to
the consistent size of the stitching as well as the
mechanism used to form the stitch. Shuttle stitch
mechanisms produce consistent stitching as long as the
treadling power is also consistent. Needless to say,
my past attempts at treadle machine sewing make my
Amish friends giggle and laugh. There is a
hand-eye-foot coordination skill required to sew on
the treadles. Most of us familiar with electric
machine sewing have a difficult time making the
adjustment! Connie Ark

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:27:27 -0600
From: "Debby Rake" <dsrake@starband.net>

Gloria was asking about black quilting thread. Amish quilters often 
=
used black thread for their quilting, no matter what color the quilt. 
=
However, this would usually be hand quilting, not machine.



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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:38:49 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>

Import quilts also make good "replacement" quilts for divorce 
situations
<VBG>...(as in He 'aint gettin the GOOD ones!)nuf said <VVBG>
Laura


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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:24:28 EST
From: Kittencat3@aol.com

The worst, the absolute worst, is when historic sites sell these 
wretched quilts. I saw some at Historic Deerfield right after the 
lecture by Lynn Bassett. I know expense is an issue for non-profits, but 
better that they not sell quilts at all than that they sell junk with 
two stitches to the inch!

Lisa Evans
Easthampton, MA

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:59:42 -0800
From: "Laurette Carroll" <rj.carroll@verizon.net>

From: Debbie Guidi
>>>I have never yet, in my experience, come
across one of my projects that has come up with an idenitifiably
"uneven"
stitching pattern that would allow me(with 15 years of quilting
experience) or anyone else that I would show these items to, to label
them
as non-electric machine made based on the evenness, or lack thereof, 
of
the
stitching. I have several different types & manufacturers of
machines,<<<<

Hello,
I also knew from experience with my old Singers that the feed dog
mechanism keeps everything going along evenly and smoothly. But I had
heard the *uneven stitch theory* also and one day decided to do an
experiment with my treadle and hand crank machines. I sewed on a 
piece
of paper using different speeds and pressures. The stitches were as 
even
as could be. My then, 5 year old grand daughter was here that day and 
I
had her do the same experiment, sewing slow and fast. Her stitches 
were
also even and matched the ones I had sewn. The foot pedal or hand 
crank
had nothing to do with the stitches except to control the speed.

Laurette Carroll
Southern California

Look to the Future with Hope

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:30:24 -0500
From: "Candace Perry" <candace@schwenkfelder.com>


Greetings:

First allow me to thank Cynda for her kind words about our quilts -- 
it was
a mutually beneficial meeting, as I was looking for some free advice!

And now I'm looking for more...And I hope this hasn't been covered 
somewhere
in the list, or perhaps someone can refer me to a book...I have the 
idea in
my head that the PA Germans are relative latecomers to quilting
(1820s?1830s?) having adopted it from their English neighbors. Woven
coverlets seemed to be the bed covers of choice for them, as scholars
indicate. Can anyone out there either confirm or argue this theory?  Also, I
am wondering about the identity and the current location of the  earliest
documented PA German quilt, not simply made in the southeastern PA  region,
but actually attributed to a PA German.

Our exhibition, Patterns of Pennsylvania: Quilts from the Heritage  Center
Collection, runs from April 1 to August 31. We are planning several  programs
that should be of interest -- more to come on those. I'll also have  webpage
on our site at www.schwenkfelder.com in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks for your help!

Candace Perry
Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:10:56 CST
From: jocelynm@delphiforums.com

She
> received a second quilt (Posy) which, not surprisingly, was also 
unused.

Cinda,
My mother made her first quilttop in 1924, her last c. 1933. She's 
now
quilting them. They were left unquilted at the time because of lack 
of
money to buy batting and backing- all the money the family had for 
those
things was needed for quilts that were going to be used RIGHT NOW, 
not
for hope-chest quilts. Then, after my mother married, her mother had
already moved to town, leaving her ceiling-hung quilt frame behind, 
and
besides, as my mother said, 'Quilts were so old-fashioned! We wanted 
new
things.'
I guess that after the years of the Depression (not that my mother's
parents had all that much money BEFORE the Depression <G>), with all 
the
'use it up, wear it out, make it do' economies, the young brides 
wanted
to celebrate the prosperity of the 40s and 50s, even if the quilts 
were
brand new and didn't re-use scraps.

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:12:30 CST
From: jocelynm@delphiforums.com
To: karenbush11@hotmail.com


> Does anyone COLLECT these quilts? I don't know what to do with 
it.
> I won't 
> carry it in my shop, and ,...Really don't want it on my bed. not 
real
good advertising for my business :/ kb > 
Karen,
OTOH, I think it would be EXCELLENT advertising. Hang it up with a  sign
on it, 'Don't be fooled by cheap imitations! Get a quality quilt  here!'


Jocelyn

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:15:44 CST
From: jocelynm@delphiforums.com


On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:48:33 -0500 seater@mindspring.com wrote:
I never expected 
> the "fad" to last this long!


Susan,
I wouldn't expect it to stop! People love quilts, and the majority of
people don't know how to make one or don't have someone to make them 
for
them. What else are they gonna do? And if you don't understand WHY 
the
custom-made quilts are so pricey, an imported quilt seems like a 
bargain. 
My sister has one, and she knows what my mom and I think about it. 
<G>
But unless we make her one, she's likely to keep on using an import. 
The
good part is, she doesn't have to worry about what the grandbaby does 
to
it. <G>
Jocelyn

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:58:49 -0800 (PST)

I confess..........I cannot sew very well on a treadle
sewing machine & I have several that are in wonderful
condition.........obviously, the hand-eye-foot skill
is one I don't have. Treadle sewing is not my best
work & no wonder my Amish friends laugh at me! I
create more problems than uneven stitches when sewing
on the treadle.

As for collecting the imported quilts, when television shows like A&E's "The Collectors" recommend that people who can't afford to collect antique quilts buy the imports instead...........nuff said. Read the propaganda on the package labels for some of the imports...........most claim them to be of "heirloom quality, etc.".........dubious to a quilter, but
"I-saw-it-in-print words of gold" to nonquilters. 

Personally, I think imported quilts make good covers
for antique quilts to protect the antiques from
damage!
C Ark




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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:36:03 EST
From: Midnitelaptop@aol.com


is everyone else annoyed with the add for the largest casino and the 
smallest 
video camera that pops up ..before you can actually get to the 
website.at 
soooo many sites...about.com and geocities used to be the worst 
offenders..now those to ads are everywhere..
jean

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:10:13 -0500
From: "Alan R. Kelchner" <quiltfix@bellsouth.net>


I dunno, y'all. I've recommended the imports many times.
Why?!?!?!?!?!
I'm approached a few times a month about making someone a quilt. My  first
question is, "Do you want a bedspread - something that you'll change  in
three years - or do you want an heirloom?" If the answer is  bedspread, I sweetly suggest they go to the local department store. I'm also  quick to point out that those quilts will self-destruct fairly quickly. But  I'm not about to waste my time on a quilt someone won't want when their decor changes.

And do I feel guilty? Not in the least. But, like it or not, I do  know that imports serve a purpose.

Alan 

 

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