Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:44:43 -0500
From: Marcia Kaylakie <firstname.lastname@example.org>
This question came to me over Quiltnet and I asked permission of the
to send it on in hopes you might give her some good guidance.
>A question has come up regarding our guild's challenge this year
>thought I would present to my Quiltnet "authorities" for some
>For our challenge this year, we are able to purchase a printed
>(one of the Daisy Kingdom fabrics with 6 flags/yard, being sold to
>individually) with instructions to create an item for display at our
>September meeting with 3 winners chosen and all quilts shown at the
>quilt show. Although these flags are printed to resemble Old Glory,
>are not to scale, the stars being out of proportion and the stripes
>right of the flag not as long as the official flag.
>The question is whether or not it is o.k. to cut this flag to use in
>item for entry into the challenge (for example, one person would
>make a shield shape for placement on an eagle, etc.). The debate is
>whether or not a "flag like" piece of fabric is o.k. to cut or
>resembles the flag it should not be.
>I seem to remember a similar debate when Willie Nelson wore a "flag"
>which was quieted when pictures appeared of Roy Rogers and Dale
>wearing similar ones! Presumably, all entries will be respectful
>the flag, but before we proceed further I'd be interested to know
>Thanks for your input!
>Donna, in Sonora, CA
Marcia Kaylakie, AQS Certified Appraiser
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:13:29 -0400
I don't remember the author, but "The Feminization of American
Culture" was a pioneering look at the women's magazines and their
contribution to 19th century domestic culture.
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:51:10 -0400
From: Mary Beth Goodman <email@example.com>
>Has anyone noticed if there is a category developing for restored
>quilts yet in quilt shows? I have not seen this locally. I've
>on two 30s quilts intensively now, and a 60s kit, and am now working
>a duplication, and have others in the wings. I realize these quilts
>cannot be compared to "new" quilts in judging, yet they aren't
>strictly "antique" when restored. I think they might deserve a
>category. Any thoughts? We seem to have a few more people
>interest in restorations each quilt show season.
>Nancy (in rainy Michigan)
I don't think we'd have a problem judging this sort of quilt at our
show. You would enter it as a group quilt since you and someone else
worked on it.
You've given me an opportunity to say that the entry deadline for
NYQuilts! quilt show is fast upon us - April 15th. We welcome all
kinds of quilts and use a point system which rewards each quilt on an
individual basis. You can get complete information and the forms you
need to enter quilts and take classes at our web site. (questions or
problems, please contact me off list)
Also as an aside, we'll be hosting the "AMERICA: From the Heart"
touring quilts. These 125 quilts debuted at Houston last November,
being made in the period between September 11th and the end of
October. I'm quite honored to be displaying them at NYQuilts! and
feel they represent the best of what quilts have always been - a way
to express our emotions and thoughts. I hope you'll be able to take
this opportunity to see them.
Mary Beth Goodman, Coordinator
Quilts, vendors, lectures, classes!
June 8-9, 2002
Russell Sage College, Troy NY
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:44:00 EDT
Someone on our list shared our discussion concerning the painted
quilt currently on eBay with the owner/seller of the quilt. The owner
contacted me, I suppose because I had shown some interest in the
this List. He asked if I would share this additional information
quilt with the whole List. In the interest of clarification on the
of the quilt, I pass his note on to the rest of you. I have not bid
quilt nor do I plan to. It is already well out of my price range.
am definitely very interested in its provenance. The seller's email
Subj: Re: NEW YORK PORTRAIT QUILT ON eBay
Date: 4/9/02 8:07:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Hello. My name is Steve McKinney. I have been a dealer in quilts
antique textiles for over twenty years. A member of your quilt
discussion List emailed me yesterday to tell me that the New York
quilt that I have up for auction on Ebay has been "challenged" by a
your List and I would like to this opportunity to tell the real
This quilt has never been repaired or restored by anyone. It is just
found it when I purchased it during the set up of an antiques show in
York. The "picker" that I purchased it from had just found it in the
of a prominent New York family.
Another dealer saw the quilt just before I did, and in an attempt to
better price from the seller, temporarily walked away from it. When
walked away I rushed in and purchased the quilt immediately. I
folded it up
and put it under my table. Needless to say, when the dealer returned
the quilt, it had already been sold. I have not exhibited this
any antiques or quilt show, and I have not offered it for sale
any individual collector or dealer.
I do not know why this person would claim that the faces in the quilt
"gone". They are in very good condition considering the medium
for their applique. A few of the faces have some splits and two have
minor flakes, but I feel that the quilt is in remarkable condition
The only thing that I have done to the quilt is to have it
mounted on acid free cotton which has been stretched over a wooden
frame. Nothing more.
I wish I knew more about the history of the quilt. The "picker"
tell me the name of the family from which it descended. I imagine
more things in the estate and he did not want to reveal a valuable
But, perhaps, two years later, I could persuade him to provide more
information. I will see.
If any of you have questions or comments on the quilt I would be more
happy to hear from you. My email address is: firstname.lastname@example.org.
<<end of Steve's email to me>>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:50:01 -0500
From: "Carol Butzke" <email@example.com>
For many years the National Quilting Association Show has sponsored a
category called Capitol Hill at their yearly national show. It is
or blocks begun prior to 1950 by someone other than the entrant and
completed by the entrant within the last five years; shortest side
at least 60". This is an exhibit category only and not judged in the
If you are interested in entering this year's show in Charlotte, NC
entries will be taken until May 1st. Information can be found at the
website at: www.NQAQuilts.org/charlotte
NQA Show Judging Coordinator
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:42:08 -0400
From: Angela Kryhul <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Hello to all of you.
I'm new to this list, so please let me introduce myself.
My name is Angela Kryhul and I am so pleased to have found this forum
and so many resources associated with quilt history.
My interest in quilts goes back almost 20 years. While I enjoy making
projects (my average is one quilt every 2 or 3 years), I'm more of a
"quilt groupie" meaning I like to hang around with quilters, read
quilting books, attend shows and spend hours on the Internet at quilt
I live in Toronto and my background is as a business journalist. I'm
a point in my life where I want to transition my skills into the
love-quilt history, textiles and women's domestic history.
My goal is to make a career out of studying quilts and domestic
and I'd like your help. How have you managed to make a career in this
area? Did you take any special courses? If so, which ones and where?
(Are any available by correspondence, including the Internet?) Did
cobble together a career for yourself or is there a college or
university that can offer me some guidance in this area? Are you
associated with a corporation that makes quilting supplies? Which
or historical associations did you join? Which shows are a "must" to
Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
Angela (in sunny Toronto)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:04:50 EDT
This question would be an excellent way for many on this List to give
thumb nail history of their own endeavors! These thumb nail sketches
then become important snippets of history themselves for future
they research and write the history of quilting of the later part of
century! Come on guys and gals. Add to history and share your
don't make a living at it. It's simply my avocation and passion,
though I am
now (as of 2002) paid for speaking, ....but it will never support
book habit!....let alone by quilt collecting habit!
<<is there a college or university that can offer me some guidance in
Angela, you need to get in touch with the International Quilt Study
They offer an excellent graduate program. Patricia Crews is the
Patricia Cox Crews, Ph.D.
Professor and Director
International Quilt Study Center
Dept. of Textiles, Clothing & Design
P. O. Box 830838
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln, NE 68583-0802
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:42:42 -0500
From: "Jennifer Van Haaften" <email@example.com>
>The new issue of VICTORIA magazine (May 2002)has an
>articled titled "Could you be a pioneer?" by
>Elizabeth Clair Flood, which tells about a PBS show
>THE FRONTIER HOUSE which is to air April 29 to May 1.
>This series took three families and set them up to
>live from May to October as Montana pioneers
>circa 1883 would have. Quoting Adrienne Clune,
>the mother of one of the families "My expectations
>were so far from the reality, I dreamed about having
>all this time to do quilting and enjoy the
> "For Adrienne, work was unceasing. Just doing
>the laundry took 2 days a week. An accomplished
>seamstress and a fine gourmet cook, she struggled
>to prepare two full meals a day."
> "I love to cook, but when you have to make
>three hundred meals without a break, that is tough."
> I am sure that our romanticized version of what it
>was like to live in the 1800s is very different from
>the realities of the times. Isn't it amazing that
>these women (and men) found time/ made time to create
>functional beauty in the form of quilts, to keep
>their families warm, to keep their hopes alive, and
>to leave for us to know a little bit about them.
>Hope this is on Iowa's public station!!
Yes, all that work should give a us a renewed respect for women
the past. However, we need to also remember that they didn't know
know now. They didn't know any different and didn't grow up any
Imagine if you'd been helping your mother with various chores around
household since you were four, five or six in the 19th century. You'd
increasing responsibility as you got older and would be expected to
to cook from scratch, though you could probably use recipes. You
learned how to butcher and dress poultry, along with other young
your family. You'd learn from your mother, grandmother and aunts how
manage your house using what you had. If Adrienne and her family had
grown up in that environment, they would have probably had a better
things and the ability to find more time to make things work and not
exhausted. Being more familiar with that way of life could have made
easier for them to find time to quilt, read, or sew clothes.
Cooking on gas or electric ranges is not like hearth or woodstove
Using cast iron reguarly for pots and pans is a physical strain. I
our female ancestors were much more fit than we are. So for Adrienne,
considered a good cook, she would need to relearn the whole process,
have to keep it up for the months they were out there. I am sure it
easy. I have worked at a few different living history sites and have
the "knack" to cooking in these different methods as well as using
recipes. But I would say I didn't feel confident until a few months
working at those places. It was kind of like being the daughter,
from the experienced interpreters how to manage the kitchen.
I think getting right in there and doing is an interesting way to
about history. I would suggest any of you "would be pioneers" try
volunteering at a living history site. It gives you the "experience"
idea of what our ancestors dealt with and you can have a lot of fun
share your historical knowledge with others. It also could give you
opportunity to share quilting lore, facts, and techniques form the
Though it is never really a true picture of life in the past in my
Because at the end of the day, you get to go home to cold showers,
conditioning and can microwave your supper if you feel like it.
I would have loved to try the Frontier House to get a more complete
day out idea of living the 19th century way, but I know, at the end
day, I am glad to have the technology I have to use to make my own
way I want it to be. I have a greater access to information and new
that I may never have had in the past. Like the toughness of life in
19th century, there are some good and some bad things about life now.
someday our granddaughters and great-granddaughters will exclaim
hard our life was and wasn't it too bad that we didn't have all the
conveniences they have.
:) I have the Frontier House air time on my calendar. The most
thing to me is, those families spent 6 months out there in Montana
condensed it down into 6 hours of television. Life in a nutshell--the
Jennifer Van Haaften
In Chicago Suburbia
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:17:32 -0700
From: donbeld <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Hi Gaye, One the most interesting and delightful series I have read
relates to quilts and frontier women is a a collections of diary
women who settle the prairie states in the 1830-60's written by Linda
Hubalek. They ae titled: Thimble of Soil, A women's quest for land;
of Thread, a women's westward journey; and Stitch of Courage, a
fight for freedom. These diary entries tell of the times and
frontier life and the quilting that goes with them. Many of the
named with "early" names which means that they are often called
"Grandmother's Favorite, Sister's Choice", etc.
An example of the writing: "I shivered when Deborah told me how Ann
consumption on a cold winter day. They buried her in a quilt she had
finished. My first thought was that it was a waste of needed
a dead person doesn't need a blanket. Deborah explained that it was
wedding quilt that she labored on before she died, and she could bear
two to be apart. I understood because I tucked special items in my
children's caskets. Even when the person is dead, we still want to
them." Thimble of Soil, page 56.
A quilt store in Littleton, Colorado (is it okay to give their name?
Expressions! puts out a block of the month every year that I have
participated in since 1996, and these books were the bases for the
quilt. For those of you who have seen it, they are the originators
"Women's Voices" quilt.
Either way, the books are great reading. Don Beld
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:31:19 -0700
From: donbeld <email@example.com>
Hi, I just had to share that I have seen the five pre-Civil War
we are going to be able to show in our quilt show next month. These
quilts that were allegedly set on fire by Sherman in his March to the
during the Civil War in South Carolina.
The family story (they have owned this plantation since it was given
by George III in 1755) is that there were 27 other quilts that
with him for "horse blankets". What a loss!
As best I can tell--remember I am not certified or an expert, just a
fascinated amateur-three of the quilts are 1830-40 and two are
There two that are identical that the family says are called Fig
haven't found the pattern in a book yet. One of them is the quilt
burnt from the Sherman incident. They are appliqued with green and
fabrics (large prints). There is one nine patch 1850's, one that
Drunkard's Path, but isn't--it looks like a different version of
Peter to Pay Paul, and one they call Sun Burst that is a pieced
Plate kind of design with a round center and eight pedals. I think t
Sunflower. Anyway three are in excellent condition and are wonderful
see. Don Beld
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:55:25 -0400
From: "Cinda Cawley" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
George and Henry Landis were brothers who collected the artifacts
Lancaster Co., PA. In 1925 they opened a museum on their home farm
exhibited the thousands of items they collected. This was the
the Landis Valley Museum now administered by the PA Historical and
Commission. For the first time the museum's quilts are being
you have to be quick. The exhibition ends on April 21.
I went to Landis Valley last Friday expecting to see typical PA
quilts. I did and much more. In addition to 30 quilts there is a
array of sewing notions, but the quilts... It was like a ticket to
Lots of PA German of the highest quality: a Sawtooth Diamond in
yellow set against Lancaster blue, a red and green Double Irish Chain
cheddar background, dark green Fleur de Lis on red, lots of the
backs I always hope to find on PA German quilts (some constructed of
strips, others whole cloth of fabulous prints), a four block Coxcomb
turkey red and poison green with reverse applique and a vine border
The surprises were even more exciting: Rob Peter to Pay Paul in
green and chrome yellow with a wide border of a sophisticated indigo
white large-scale floral print, repeat block quilts with wide chintz
borders, a Friendship Album from New Jersey dated 1842-45 with
applique and chintz applique blocks.
For once I can do more than just tantalize you. There is a 40
catalogue of the exhibit with full page photos of all the quilts and
captions by Patricia Herr. It is available for $13.95 from the
store, www.landisvalleymuseum.org. . The store manager is Shelby
the assistant manager is Linda Siems. Phone (717) 569-9312. Email:
email@example.com. If you're interested don't wait. This is
to sell out.
The Quilters Heritage Show was at its usual standard of
the first time in ages I stayed until it closed on Sunday and decided
is the day to see the show. The crowds were gone!
Cinda on the Eastern Shore
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:27:03 -0500
From: "Steve and Jean Loken" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Marcia and group,
I have read that the only item that must be respected according to
etiquette rules are actual flags that fly on poles. Representations
flags, ie. fabrics, shirts, and even the tiny flags held at parades,
treated in any way you wish, and may be discarded in the trash. The
are made or kept by veteran's organizations, mainly American Legion,
their web sites often have the rules written out. But, of course,
think about sewing when they print the rules.
Jean in rainy Minnesota
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:58:40 -0400
From: "Gibson, Nancy" <email@example.com>
For the Fag code go to the DAR website at www.dar.org. Click on the
side of the page "President General Salutes Patriotism." go to the
Code. Everything you need to know will be there.
Curator of Textiles/Public Affairs specialist
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve and Jean Loken [SMTP:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
> To: email@example.com; qhL@cuenet.com
> Subject: QHL: flag etiquette
> Marcia and group,
> I have read that the only item that must be respected according to
> etiquette rules are actual flags that fly on poles. Representations
> flags, ie. fabrics, shirts, and even the tiny flags held at
> treated in any way you wish, and may be discarded in the trash. The
> are made or kept by veteran's organizations, mainly American
> their web sites often have the rules written out. But, of course,
> think about sewing when they print the rules.
> Jean in rainy Minnesota
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:12:57 -0400 From: "Cinda Cawley"
Yes, Aunt Jane is a fictional character (and I make that clear when I quote
from the book), but she says, in a memorable fashion, exactly what I want to get
across. On p. 147 of The Age of Homespun Laurel Thatcher Ulrich ends the chapter
called "A Bed Rug and a Silk Embroidery" with these words,
"Prudence and Betty were both strong women. Their memories survive because
they had ego enough to sign their work and because their descendants cherished
the fragmetary writing and the stitchery they produced in their youth." GO
Prudence and Betty!!!!!!! Cinda on the Eastern Shore