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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:34:04 -0400
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com>

My sister and I are going to be traveling in Ohio next weekend (13-16
making a sweep from Cleveland to Toledo to Zanesville starting and
ending in
Ithaca, NY. I'm planning to drive through Holmes Co. on the way
back. I'd
appreciate any suggestions for quilt related activities (she's not a
person, but I'm doing the driving!). TIA!
Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:34:47 -0400
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com>

Who's going to Rockford?
Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:42:20 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: Mary Persyn <Mary.Persyn@valpo.edu>

Wasn't 1000 leaves also available as a kit? My (sometimes
failing) memory seems to remember having seen a kit one


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:03:34 -0400
From: "judygrow" <judygrow@rcn.com>

I had my first cataract surgery Tuesday, and it was a breeze. As
of immediately after I now see better without glasses in that eye,
the left eye, than with.

I came home from surgery and got right on the computer. Wednesday I
was up
at the sewing machine except for the time spent at my first post-op
check-up. Thursday I drove myself to work. Unbelievable.

I remembered visiting my grandmother, in the hopital, after she had
had her
cataracts removed -- this was at least 40 years ago -- and her head
was sandbagged to keep it totally immobile for a week. She was
completely bandaged as well. My SIL reminded me of her grandfather who was
blind and immobile for the last 40 years of his life because of cataracts.

The difference in technology is more like the difference in
centuries, not 40 years. This is totally bloodless, stitchless surgery, takes 10
minutes, and is done without general anesthesia.

No one ever mentioned this and I never read it anywhere, but colors
are changed now! Wednesday night we were watching something on the
History Channel -- DS #2 calls it the Hitler Channel -- and I became aware
of a very swarthy, dark haired man in a dark blue suit (discussing
Hitler's remains)
sitting in front of paneling which was manila envelope color --
quite yellow. Because the camera was on him for a long time, for the hell
of it I took my glasses off and shut first one eye, then the other to see what the
difference would be. I was looking for differences in clarity of image, but the
most striking difference was in the color. The old eye saw everything
much more florid, more yellow. The new eye gave him a paler skin, with whiter
highlights. The panelling became a color you could live with.

I began testing it everywhere yesterday. White woodwork is really
white with
the new eye, and an old linen color with the old. The paper here at
the computer has a golden tint with the old eye, and we know how white
printer paper is.

Unbelievable! And my business is chosing colors for people!!!

A bonus. Everyone insists on looking at my eyes to see if they can
see a difference. They all can. 1. My "new" eye has more color, it is
greener. It isn't covered by a cloud any more 2. My old eye has a larger pupil
-- to let in more light because of the cloudiness of the cataract -- so
there is less iris visible.

Maybe the colors in those quilt fabrics isn't as golden or muddy as
your brain has been registering. Maybe they really are quite bold and

We've pulled back the second eye surgery from October 1st to Sept.
19th. I can't wait for two weeks from now!

When was the last time you had your eyes checked? This showed up
only in the last two years since my last checkup.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:03:45 EDT
From: Midnitelaptop@aol.com

in jackie robinson's book Tessellations...there are 2 quilts that
could fit the description..tessellating leaves and autumn..


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:58:40 EDT
From: Midnitelaptop@aol.com

BTW before anyone comes "unglued"(please forgive the pun) about
starch and silver fish...starch does wash out...and can you imagine with all the
fusible stuff in so many of today's quilt...how many silver fish are packing
up a napkin,knife and fork kit and heading for the fused art/appliqued
quilts everywhere... they must be chartering buses by the busloads (arghh!


Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:39:59 -0400
From: Judy White <jawhite@infi.net>

Judy, so glad that you are doing well. My dad has a video of his
cataract surgery. Did you get one?

Judy White


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:24:18 -0400
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com>

I'm wondering if future generations will find many unwashed
quilts. I
just washed one that I want to send to a show because the entry form
says marking lines are unacceptable. Personally, they don't bother me (of
course, I love to find them on an antique quilt) and I normally never
wash a newly completed quilt until the interests of health and safety demand
it. How much of what we are doing as quiltmakers is being determined by
the prospect of quilt judges?
Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:47:22 -0700
From: "Christine Thresh" <christine@winnowing.com>

There is a marvelous quilt called "Celebration of Sight" by Suzanne
Riggo at http://home.att.net/~sacredthreads/Galleryofquilts.htm 

It is a quilt she made after cataract surgery. It is the third or
fourth image down the page (slow loading, but worth the wait).

Congratulations on your vision.

Christine Thresh
on an island in the California Delta


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:03:17 -0500 From: "Dale/Jean Carlton" 

Hi Cinda and all, I always do the opposite with a newly made quilt. I wash it right away; in fact it is often a motivating factor to get it done. I hand quilt and like to remove any markings but mostly it's because I love the way it looks after washing. Softer, the fabric closes around the stitches and gives it more dimension; it just doesn't look like a real quilt until it's washed in my opinion! - plus I read once that after working on a quilt, maybe for months or longer, it has accumulated dirt and oils from your hands, being on the floor etc. which is good to get out sooner rather than later. I have never entered a quilt in a judged competition. I do it for myself! Jean Carlton MN Quilt Appraiser


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:11:55 -0500 From: "Dale/Jean Carlton" <djcarlton@att.net> To: "QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: quilting lines 

Hi Cinda and all, I do just the opposite with a newly made quilt. I wash it right away. In fact, it's often a motivating factor in getting it done! I can hardly wait to get it in the water. At first I got a little nervous, but I prewash all my fabrics and after no problems time after time, I just plunge it in. I like the look and feel of a quilt after being washed. It's softer and has more dimension as the fabric closes around the threads. It just doesn't look 'real' to me until it's washed. I am a hand quilter.....I read once that after hand quilting for months or more on a piece, it has accumulated dirt from being on the floor etc. and most importantly the natural oils on on hands - so it's good to get that out sooner rather than later. I like to remove any marking lines but don't worry too much about that. They never really show much if I mark lightly. I've never entered a judged competition so have never had to worry about what the judges think. I do what I like best! Jean Carlton MN Quilt Appraiser


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:34:50 EDT From: DDBSTUFF@aol.com To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: Cinda IN OHIO Message-ID: 


When in Holmes County, be sure to check out Helping Hands Quilt Shop in Berlin. Than go down to Charm and visiy Mrs. Miller's Dry Goods.

Just East of Berlin, near Walnut Creek on Rt 62, be sure to stop in and say hello to Virginia Koucky at Land of Cannan. She will tell you else to go. Have fun. but don't expect to see any real Amish Quilts but there is a snall chance.



Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:14:44 -0500 From: "Barbara Vlack" <cptvdeo@inil.com> To: "QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: RE: 1000 Leaves Message-ID: 

There are two antique leaf appliqué quilt designs that I am aware of that could be called "1000 Leaves". One is by Susan McCord and was made in the late 1800s. She died in 1909 (from complications of being kicked by a cow). This quilt is possibly at the Greenfield Village Museum. Marilyn Doheny published a pattern for this quilt several years ago, and I don't know if it's still available. This quilt has vertical rows of vines of leaves made from scraps. It is striking. The vines have branches to fill the vertical background strips. I started making this quilt from the pattern and quit making the leaves after 650 when I did some serious counting and accounting and realized that I would need over 3000 leaves to do this quilt as Susan did originally. I was preparing each leaf by basting over a foundation, which was good mindless handwork, but I used the leaves in another project and that was a very good decision.

The second quilt is also called "Autumn Leaves" and is by Charlotte Jane Whitehill. This one was made in 1934, I believe. It is a medallion quilt with an intertwined vine of leaves as the center motif and borders of vines and leaves around it. It, too, was scrapbag.

Barb Vlack cptvdeo@inil.com


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:14:46 -0500 From: "Barbara Vlack" <cptvdeo@inil.com> To: "QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: Washing quilts Message-ID: 

Cinda asked: <<How much of what we are doing as quiltmakers is being determined by the prospect of quilt judges?>>

IMHO, if you intend to enter your quilt into competition and hope to win, you are at the mercy of judges and their rules. You better know the rules and follow them. These rules may vary from one judge to another, and the competition organizers may insert some of their conditions, too. I often tell my students that strict adherence to rules doesn't matter except in competition. I always encourage good workmanship, but "rules" about washing quilts, for example, to remove quilting guidelines should be followed for competition but given some personal choice considerations otherwise. The majority of quilts being made today do not get into competition, so the quiltmaker has free choice.

I also know that a majority of quilters making quilts today do not know "judges' rules" per se.

I also know that "rules are made to be broken" and Caryl Bryer Fallert winning Best of Show at AQS several years ago with a totally machine quilted piece (when the "rule" was hand quilting) shattered all the rules and started judges everywhere scrambling for new ones.

Barb Vlack cptvdeo@inil.com


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:14:48 -0500 From: "Barbara Vlack" <cptvdeo@inil.com> 

Jean commented that fusing for applique and batting might attract silverfish, as starch has done in the past. I would tend to differ greatly from this idea. Fusing is not organic or edible, as starch is. Starch is made from corn starch, and we use it ourselves for thickening gravy or sauces for Chinese cooking or fruit juice for pies! I would worry more about chemical deterioration than insect attraction for fusibles.

Barb Vlack cptvdeo@inil.com


Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:25:48 +0800 From: "Roberta Geanangel" <ragcat@email.com> To: "judygrow" <judygrow@rcn.com>, "Quilt History List" 

On June 25 I had my left eye "done" and two weeks later had the right one. I no longer wear glasses for reading,just distance. You are right, the colors have changed and so has the sun!!! For two weeks I wore two pair of sun glasses here in FL! Good luck with your right eye....

Blessed Be! Roberta in Florida



Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:46:13 -0400 From: "Laurie Magee" <woodman@vbe.com> To: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com>, "QHL" 

I am. In fact to be able to go to Bird in Hand in the spring with Fran's group and AQSG in the fall, this is a red letter year.

I have a request as well. DH and I are finally pursuing a remodel of our 50s shoebox and I will actually have a "studio"! Are there products or storage options or just things I should keep in mind once we get to the bare walls stage? any help would be appreciated. Laurie in Wisconsin

> Who's going to Rockford? > Cinda on the Eastern Shore > > >

-- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:58:53 -0400 From: "judygrow" <judygrow@rcn.com> 


I just walked through a house not quite finished on my road -- a one story house with 4600 square feet!!! And what I saw in the bedrooms set my mouth to producing saliva overtime. I saw walk-in closets full of shelves.

Mine would have to be as big as a room, open off the sewing room, and have no windows, but plenty of ceiling light fixtures, perhaps a couple of the pull-down kind.

I'd love to have a closet wide enough to have shelves on either side and a shelf through the middle, coming out from the back wall ( which would have shelves above a hanging rack.

I'd have solid shelves for books, wire shelves for fabrics, deep shelves for folded quilt storage, a bin for rolled large paper patterns and designs that could be stored upright.

I'd have one section devoted to shallow and narrow drawers so stuff wouldn't get lost in them.

I'd have an easy-to-move ladder with a platform at the top to put the stuff I pull out. You tell me what else I am missing.

Everything would go in there and when I needed to look the proper housewife, so neat and tidy, I could just CLOSE THE DOOR! The sewing room would always look so neat -- not like mine at all.

In the sewing room I'd have two bare walls. On one I'd put up homosote board or the like covered in a pale grey flannel or felt. This would be my design wall. On the wall exactly opposite I'd have a large mirror, slightly off the parallel, so that I could stand to the side and get a complete view of the design wall in the mirror. That means attaching a sort of wedge to the wall and then attaching the mirror to the wedge.

I'd make sure I had plenty of natural light in the sewing room, but those windows would be ultra-violet filtering glass.

Lots of folks will say not to put down carpeting, but I like the off white industrial non-pile stuff I have down as rugs with bound edges. I got mine cheaply as cut-offs from an industrial job and paid extra to have the edges bound. White threads don't show, but yellow and red-headed pins pop immediately. Rather than pull out the vacuum constantly , I use those rolling lint picker-uppers. I use that on my ironing board as well.

I've got two refuse cans -- one by the sewing machine, one by the ironing board -- the big board, 22 x 60. I could use a third can by the design and cutting table (which, by the way is an old drafting table).

I'll think of more, I'm sure, but that's it for now.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrow@rcn.com

Not going to AQSG, but to my own guild's bi-annual quilt show, where I am door prize chairman, for the third time.


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:06:19 -0500 From: "Kelly Robinson" <ksrobinson@texoma.net> To: <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: QHL question and 


I am new to this list and still a 'baby' in vintage and antique textiles = so please pardon what may seem to you as very simple questions. I am = learning a lot from reading your postings to each other and appreciate = that very much. I live in Texas and have 4 children, the oldest just = left for college 3 weeks ago which has been a fairly traumatic = expereince for ME not her.=20

In response to your comment on the effects of competition to art of = quilting, I feel that 'competition' in any respect is not really a good = reflection of the market so to speak or the average person in any = particular field and yes it does have a large impact on what will become = the future of that activity. In livestock for example, show animals are = bred specifically just for that, they really in many ways do not reflect = the farmer nor the market. In competitive sports we train children to = stress their bodies in unimaginable ways which in many cases affects = their overall health for the rest of their lives, all in the name of = winning. We wouldn't dare ask Monet to change his painting to reflect a = judges wishes or Beethoven to change a symphony to fit a time schedule. = Quilting is an art just the same and should be judged the same. Let the = artist be the artist and let everyone else either like their creations = or not. Competition is good in the way that it will bring out the best = in many people and many people create masterpieces that they wouldn't = have otherwise created except for the fact of a competition and that is = good. Competition is a major part of our society on all levels and it = does and probably will continue to have its lasting effects - both good = and bad.=20

Now for my 'baby' question. How do you decide when it is more harmful to = leave a vintage textile dirty or when it is better to leave it dirty and = leave it alone? Obviously if it will fall apart you would leave it alone = but what if it is in pretty good condition but is very dirty? I have = heard many people that don't every do anything to them all the way to = people who (please sit down) yes, wash them in their washing machine. = ugh! (I'm not that dumb thank you).=20

Thank you for all your great comments.

Kelly Robinson=20


Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 17:11:10 -0600 From: Xenia Cord <xenia@legacyquilts.net> To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: Re: QHL: QHL question 

Wow! A much-needed fresh voice from Texas! Welcome, Kelly, and you are absolutely right about competition creating highly developed competitors, and products or skills that do not really reflect the full field.

On your question about cleaning v. not cleaning a vintage textile, a lot depends on the strength of the fabric and the joining and quilting threads, the stability of the dyes in the colors, the type of soil involved, and whether wet cleaning will do more harm than good. Once the textile has been dipped into water, the process is irreversible. You can dry the textile again, but it will not be in the same condition as before it was wet. You have to be willing to live with the results, whatever may happen. If you can determine if the textile has been washed previously in its life, some of the answers may be a little easier to determine.

Of course washing means by hand rather than machine, and "dry"cleaning is not an option either. The cleaning agent you use also makes a difference. You asked about cleaning a textile that is "very dirty" - and of course this is fairly subjective.

I usually tell those who want to wash their vintage quilts to lie down until the urge goes away. But if your choice is to clean, a professional appraiser or restoration specialist may be able to advise if this is the best course of action.



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