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Subject: Re: pencil from Michaels' From: KJB139aol.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:49:54 EDT X-Message-Number: 1

Michael's crafts stores carry a water soluble graphite pencil. It is called Sketch and Wash made by Generals and it is black with a silver top with the numbers 988 written on it. They come two to a package with a small sharper enclosed. I looked at Joann Fabrics and also AC Moore for it but only Michael's seems to carry it.

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Subject: RE: Appraisers From: "Sarah Hough" <dougandsarah1comcast.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:59:47 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

OK, now I have to wade in. Teddy is a great appraiser, thoroughly professional. And from someone who has taken a road trip with her (and a couple others from the list who may want to remain anonymous), she is lots of fun. Our trip to the Southern Quilt Conference was memorable. I am looking forward to next year's.

Now about ice cream ... since moving to Florida from Northville, MI where we had not one but two local dairies that made ice cream, I haven't found any that compare. Yes, we have the "designer" ice creams, but they aren't the same as Guernsey and Cloverdale dairies so I have to console myself with Snickers frozen ice cream bars.

Sarah In the Panhandle of Florida where every day the weather forecast is hot, muggy, 40 percent chance of thunderstorms -- but no complaints -- no hurricanes.

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Subject: RE: hand quilting From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:39:45 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

Brenda,

I have seen samples and there are a few in quilt history books of machine quilted quilts. One in particular I'm thinking of is pictured in several books including the "Smithsonian Treasury of American Quilts" - on pages 64&65. The caption quotes "The Ladies' Hand Book of Fancy Ornamental Work" by Miss Florence Hartley, Philadelphia, 1859 as reading "Quilting on a Grover & Baker's sewing machine, is no trouble at all, and the rapidity with which it is accomplished, enables us to apply it to many things which would cost too much time and labor for hand sewing."

I have seen others in person (some perhaps tops quilted later) but some were most probably machine quilted in the late 19th century.

I remember the days when popular belief was that it's only a quilt if it's made by hand. However, while I love to do hand work (hand quilting I can only do in cooler weather) I have to agree with Miss Florence Hartley with the exception that I use a Bernina 150 with no stitch regulator. I have recently acquired a treadle machine to experiment with but my Bernina and I do a great deal of work together. It's the only way I will ever have the time to get the densely quilted look I love. After all, we are making these quilts in the 21st century and I would hope quilt historians of the future would like to see quilts made with the techniques available in our time as well as those made 'traditionally.'

Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle Craving good Mexican food on the beach overlooking the Pacific - which is hard to get here in Lancaster, PA

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Subject: Appraisers Testing and some advice From: "Pam Weeks" <pamela.weeksgmail.com> 

Hi Sharon,

Many of us have had our applications to test accepted on first try, and have passed on first try. I think in my "class" for testing in Paducah, more than half of us passed, and 3 or 4 of us were there for the first time. I am seriously convinced that half of it is attitude. I think we all go pretty well prepared, but can be totally tripped up by a bad case of nerves. And if we weren't prepared, I agree with Teddy--we shouldn't be passed.

If you choose to go ahead with the process, try to immerse yourself in every kind of quilting you can. You'll find that one or more periods will thrill you and you'll become more versed in these quilts. Of course, you do need more than a general knowledge in all eras, but it will come.

Attend as many national quilting events as you can afford to get to. The antique quilt dealers were wonderfully helpful to me when I was beginning to learn values, but be respectful of their time and products. They are there to sell quilts and need to serve their customers, but most are happy to let you stand in a corner and observe, as well as check out values, and learn about fabrics and styles. I always asked first, though.

NEVER consider yourself an expert. Every time I think I've seen it all, something new pops up--a twist on something or something completely different in a genre I thought I had nailed down. "Expert" is an attitude and can be a bad one to adopt--there's always more to learn, and when you consider yourself an expert, your pride in your knowledge and prejudices can block new understandings and insights.

Also, take history and dating classes from as many folks as you can manage, and don't forget the history behind the objects. I've enjoyed learning more US and NH history in the years that I've been a serious student of quilt history than in my formal schooling. It's so important to have at least an inkling of what was going on in folks' lives socially, politically, domestically, etc. in 1850 if that's the period you love in quilts.

Well, how's that for a lecture? Most of all, love it! If you don't, don't do it!

-- Pam Weeks, writing from ABQ today, but headed toward Denver. http://weeksie.blogs.com/weeksies_blog_/

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Subject: Re: Quilt restoration From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:31:50 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

Jan and Sharron:

I took Nancy Kirk's restoration classes in April 2006 and learned a tremendous amount. She loves to share the practical experience she has, and the five days of the class were definitely worth every minute.

Dale Drake Restoring quilts in central Indiana when I'm not spending time with the grandkids - or working, darn it!

Jan said: Sharron Evans, you asked about restoration. You might check out Nancy Kirk's website: www.kirkcollection.com. Nancy conducts restoration workshops each year in September, both beginner and advanced, and also has a DVD set for sale on restoration.

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Subject: Re: water soluble pencils From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:32:57 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Susan:

Thanks for the feedback on the water soluble pencil. I just got my new Connecting Threads catalog and saw them in there - was wondering how they worked. I think I'll get some and try them myself. And I'll get the sharpener!

Dale in Martinsville, IN

Susan said: I have recently tried a "water soluble" pencil - carefully- the binder for the graphite breaks down so that it can be released upon washing. I am marking lightly and sparingly, but the sample I tried first gave reasonable results. I bought it from the Stencil Company. If you decide to try them, treat yourself to the pencil sharpener, too - none of mine at home from the school and office supplies seemed to fit and make a sharp point. Susan

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Subject: Re: Tetex From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:36:39 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

Thanks, Lynn, for the extra information - your personal experience as well as the product information. I'm not planning on doing conservation work but I keep information like this in an MS Word document. I've tucked this one away under "Tetex vs Crepeline." You never know.

Dale in central Indiana

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Subject: Re: Feather and corn shuck mattresses From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:48:43 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

Gaye:

Can you describe that bed more? I'm trying to visualize it - does the little rolling pin detach so that it can be used by hand all along the feather mattress, or does it slide down the entire bed?

My mother remembers that when she spent the summers as a girl out with her French-speaking grandparents in Breaux Bridge, LA during the mid-1930s, her job was to fluff up the corn shuck mattresses with a long stick every

morning. The mattress fabric had holes in the sides for the stick and she'd stick the stick in and poke it around to fluff up the contents. And then yes, no one was allowed on them all day. Some of you met Mom at the Southern Quilt Conference - she was the one who came to the conference so that she'd know what Joanne Stuttgen and I were talking about on the way home to Indiana.

Dale Drake A displaced Cajun in Indiana (married to a Hoosier who insists on sugar in his corn bread)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaye Ingram" <gingramsuddenlink.net I have a reproduction of an old bed that had been made by a French Acadian furniture maker before the Civil War and that my paternal grandmother owned. It too had a feather mattress, but it had the little rolling pin attached with dowels to the head of the bed. Easier to get a smooth surface for the spread or coverlet.

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Subject: Re: Feather and corn shuck mattresses From: pollymellocomcast.net Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:04:41 +0000 X-Message-Number: 9

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Dale, Sugar in corn bread, That is sacrilidge!! Polly Mello Elkridge, Maryland via Irving, Texas

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Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Northwest please From: JLHfwaol.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:33:28 EDT X-Message-Number: 10

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Dear Laura, You have my sincerest sympathy regarding your depravation of excellent ice cream. In your honor, I will be going to the grocery store later today to replinish my supply of Blue Bell Homemade Vanilla and, for your sake, i will invest in another flavor as well. After all, we have to do the best we can for our friends. As I emailed Gaye, I am jealous of my friend, Kathi Babcock, who lives in La Grange. Kathi had the honor of having her photo made with Belle, the cow. Gaye and I are thinking that maybe we should meet in Brenham and see if we can't arrange a photo shoot as well. Problem is, Belle, lives in La Grange, but we can manage a short skip over there. Kathi says the best people live in La Grange and most certainly the best cows. In case you have never heard of La Grange, think The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas location. No extra comments, that was a long time ago. Regards, Janet Henderson

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Subject: Re: corn bread From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:34:34 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11

I know. Mom was horrified ... but now that she's moved here SHE cooks the corn bread - and he eats it. :-)

Dale Drake Who believes that life is too short to bother with cooking - there's too much quilting to do!

Dale, Sugar in corn bread, That is sacrilidge!! Polly Mello Elkridge, Maryland via Irving, Texas

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Subject: Re: corn bread From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:51:17 -0400 X-Message-Number: 12

Sugar in corn bread is a must and so is sugar on my buttered corn on the cob!

Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle

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Subject: Re: Appraisers Testing and some advice From: JLHfwaol.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:54:53 EDT X-Message-Number: 14

Dear Pam, Make a stop at Santa Fe Quilting in SF just off Cerrillos. No reproduction fabrics but one of the best selections of batiks, brights, and southwestern fabrics you will ever see. Super staff and classes. Janet Henderson in Fort Worth. Headed to SF Saturday for a medical conference and quality time visiting friends and going to the Opera.

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Subject: Re: corn bread From: Mitzioakesaol.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:59:59 EDT X-Message-Number: 15

I'm with you Mitzi from Vermont! (home of Ben & Jerry's if anyone is still talking ice cream!-we knew them when all they had was a dirty old garage to make their ice cream in)

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Subject: good Mexican food From: "Donna Sparlin" <nilrapsgmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:10:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16

Greta - You make my mouth drool for a good California Salsa or Rancho Huevos - I never realized how much I would miss CALMEX till we moved. You buy salsa in the grocery store same brand as California and it taste different - everything is Regional. Dawn

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: July 23, 2007 From: "Janice" <freitascomteck.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:54:56 -0400 X-Message-Number: 17

Still trying to rest up from the Quilters Hall of Fame Annual Celebration this past weekend. Was nice to meet Dale Drake, and her lovely daughter Andrea who makes wonderful dolls. Where do you buy Tetex?

We had three excellent completely full fabric dating workshops. Everyone was "in stitches" laughing at Georgia Bonesteel and Eleanor Burns trying to be the fastest making a block - one on a treadle, the other on a Bernina.

Some of the quilts and fabric samples in the dating workshops were to die for! It was interesting to see the differences between Pa and Md cradle quilts - one in particular that stuck in my mind was a red and green square crib quilt, it was outstanding - Pennsylvania quilts were definitely more colorful.

We will again have dating workshops, and technique workshops along with lectures and our fundraising auction. Dates for next year are July 17,18,19 -

Janice in Marion Home of the Quilters Hall of Fame

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Subject: Re: Quilt restoration From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:04:25 -0400 X-Message-Number: 18

Thanks Jan. I own all Nancy's dvd's and subscribe to all of her newsletters. I've really enjoyed participating in her telephone "seminars" and have learned tons.

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Subject: Re: corn bread From: "Sally Shelton" <sallyneopaleo.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:03:10 -0400 X-Message-Number: 19

I had to come out of lurking on this one, as a museum person.

As I was informed by a historic house/farm expert years ago, the typical corn strains in the 19th century were overall more sugar-rich than many strains available today. 19th century recipes (like the ones I inherited from my great-grandmother) did not call for sugar because they did not need it. Current strains are not as sweet, which extends their store life. The person telling me this had made a research career out of replicating 19th century farm recipes from the frontier, and she practically ordered us to put a little sugar in our cornbread if we wanted a real taste of the times. She was a little intimidating, so I tried it and have never gone back. It doesn't take a lot, and my grandmother agreed it tasted more like her mom's cooking.

My great-grandmother's recipes were not elaborate, and most of them are just lists of ingredients she used, no instructions. (She didn't need any steenkin' instructions.) The produce she grew to feed a family (and later a boardinghouse) was not the same as the produce we see in today's supermarkets. If you use heirloom seeds and grow your own, as it were, you can really taste the difference, not just in corn but in practically everything. I am not going to raise and grind my own corn crop any time soon, so there will continue to be a tiny dash of sugar in my cornbread.

And my great-grandmother kept her quilting frames on the ceiling, too. Would that I had inherited those....

Cheers, Sally Shelton

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Subject: Re: water soluble pen From: HKnight453aol.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:07:50 EDT X-Message-Number: 20

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If you want to use masking tape, I strongly recommend the blue kind for painting from 3M. It leaves much less residue than the conventional beige kind.

Heather

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Subject: Re: Appraisers Testing and some advice From: Julia Zgliniec <rzglini1san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:13:58 -0700 X-Message-Number: 21

Good Morning All, I am going to second Pam's excellent remarks on what it takes to be an appraiser and add a couple of comments too.

Don't forget that to be certified by AQS, the appraiser must have a good working knowledge of contemporary work. Many of my clients are quilt makers who are sending their work off to shows and need something to verify replacement value. This is an important service to the quilt makers of today. An appraiser may decide not to appraise art quilts after certification, but the ability to approach the subject is needed in order to pass.

The ability to recognize repairs is another skill that is required, as well as the ability to identify reproduction fabrics so as to know when they have been used in a repair. I have found this list is a wonderful resource for discussions on the materials used for repair and conservation. I save many posts in my "Resource" folder.

Anyone who has additional questions regarding appraisal may email privately - my email is always on and I am happy to answer questions. Of course I do not have all the answers but I am happy to help if I can.

Julia Zgliniec, Appraiser, certified by The American Quilter's Society, Class of '91 ps. Into every serious group - a little ice cream must be served.

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Subject: RE: good Mexican food From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:16:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 22

Dawn - I agree whole heartedly! Nothing here tastes the same. In Escondido I could go to the local shops and buy fresh tortillas - the package stuff just doesn't get it.

Greta

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Subject: Re: Painted Fabric From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:05:28 -0500 X-Message-Number: 24

Painting motifs for use on Victorian Crazy quilts was done a lot. . . I've seen ads from that era in our local newspaper where a woman in Minnesota was offering painted motifs for sale for use in crazy quilts. The ad was in a Lincoln, NE newspaper. Stephanie Higgins

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Subject: Re: Ice Cream in Lincoln, NE From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:13:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 25

I live in Lincoln and was so pleased to hear a vote for the Dairy Store on East Campus. . . which is in walking distance of the new museum opening March 2008 ladies, so come on down! Stephanie Higgins (who volunteers at the IQSC as much as she can)

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Subject: Name Stencils From: "Elaine Kelly" <elainekelly63verizon.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:05:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 26

Just back from visiting Winterthur's quilt exhibits and the exhibit at the Chester County Historical Society. An easy day trip from the D.C. area and well worth the time. What a collection of quilts! Whole cloth with stuffed work galore, wonderful chintzes . . . . To see so many *very* old quilts in wonderful condition in one day was a real treat. Many of the quilts (particulary at the CCHS) were autographed with that wonderful Spencerian script. Some signatures were stamped, and we did see a display of a metal stencil, ink bottle and a little round (fabric?) "pouncer". Since I'm not about to add "learn calligraphy" to my list of things to try in 2007, can anyone tell me whether such stencils are still available? I did a 30-minute google search for custom metal stencils/laundry stamp and the like, without real success. There do seem to be lots of custom rubber stamp companies around. Can a rubber stamp provide a very fine line with indelible fabric inks?

Elaine Kelly Reston, VA

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Subject: Re: pencil from Michaels' From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:03:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 27

There are also soapstone pencils that leave a white line.

Alan

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Subject: Re: Thank you, Judy! From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:53:22 -0700 X-Message-Number: 28

Yeah, it seems there are several, if not most, who have someone to blame for their love of needlework. Myself, I have both of my grandmothers to blame directly. The maternal one is my quilting muse as she taught me to quilt. The other one tauaght me a couple of forms of crochet. My eldest great aunt did drawn embroidery work (I have a couple pieces). Another actually sewed professionally for a doll company making doll clothes. My sisters each had a doll with clothing made by Minerva. My sisters didn;t realize how lucky they were. There's also a mysterious someone on my father's side who

quilted. I have a sweet little quilt that I rescued from being uused to transport furniture that came from his mother's home. I should photograph it and ask my aunt if she remembers it. Sio I draw inspiration from each of the ladies., my maternal Grandmother, Margeurite, being my main one. Strangely enough, the needle bug entirely skipped my parents generation. What's worse, in my generation I'm the only one who does this at all.

Whatever was done previously is now in my repetiore. I onnly wish I had a child to pass it on to.

Alan

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Subject: Appraisal From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:37:05 -0400 X-Message-Number: 29

I'd just like to take a moment to thank everyone for the information they shared. My head is swimming with thoughts.

If anyone is coming to Houston for Quilt Festival or Market, let me know. I'll be happy to meet for lunch or dinner.

Best regards, Sharron 

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Subject: Re: hand quilting From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:00:26 -0700 X-Message-Number: 30

<GRIN> They have air conditioning in Texas. As in Florida, it's a must!

Alan

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Subject: Re: Painted Fabric From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:56:31 -0700 X-Message-Number: 31

Oh my, yes! I remember as a child in the seventies there was this fad for paiinting fabric, rather than embroidering. It invovled pre-printed fabric and these tiubes of paint with a pen tip. I remember hours of fun just coloring away. It was very simple. You would know if this is it, becuse the pen lines were always obvious.

Alan

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Subject: RE: Painted Fabric From: "Sarah E." <texascalamityjanesbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 32

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Hey there!

I'm beginning a study on the Tree of Life pattern as used in quilting. Would it be possible to post a picture of this almost-done painted fabric with the ToL pattern? Or if a pic has already been posted somewhere, if you could point me in the right direction? I am just today getting caught up on things, was unable to do email yesterday.

Thanks so much! Sarah E. in TX

Candace Perry <candaceschwenkfelder.com> wrote: I've seen painted silks (and have an example in this collection) from the late 19th, and painted stuff pre 1940. I don't know if it was a fad per se, but certainly I would think the fabric painting -- esp. silk -- might have gone along with the crazy quilt phenomenon. Candace Perry Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center

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Subject: RE: Fw: looking for a fabric From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:41:20 -0700 X-Message-Number: 34

I looked at them first. Easy to remember. They don;t have what I'm looking for, sadly. I'm kind of miffed because I can't find the link I had once saved.

Alan

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Subject: RE: Fw: looking for a fabric From: JLHfwaol.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:58:54 EDT X-Message-Number: 35

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Dear Alan, Have you tried Vintage and Vogue? They too have a large selection of Repro fabrics as you probably know. Regards, Janet Henderson in Fort Worth

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Subject: help with a quilting/sewing myth From: "Lisa Erlandson" <lisalequilts.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:41:34 -0500 X-Message-Number: 36

Hi, doing a little research here - I am looking for "myths" involving broken needles in quilting. I found such a myth concerning sewing: "If you break a needle making a dress for yourself, you won't live to wear it" - apparently, it's OK to break a needle if you are making the clothes for someone else to wear and break the needle. Anyway - just wondering if there were any myths strictly related to quilting and broken needles?? Thanks, Lisa Erlandson

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Subject: Re: water soluble pen From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:11:24 -0400 X-Message-Number: 37

For fine lines I like the Roxanne's pencils. They come in both silver and white. I have been using them for several years now on both hand quilting and machine and they have always washed out first time. They stay on very well even when you rub them with an arm or hand while quilting. I find that sharpening them can be a challenge and an electric sharpener works best.

Most of the time I just use plain old kids chalk sharpened in a crayon sharpener. Never had a problem with this in over 20 years of using it. The cheaper the better. I usually buy the 4 boxes for a dollar at our local dollar tree. The colored chalk is great for white and light fabrics and always washes out for me too. Sharon in NC http://community.webshots.com/user/sharonsews

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Subject: RE: Spray and Wash (NQR) From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:15:18 -0400 X-Message-Number: 38

When my daughter - now 26 - was 2 she took an usually long nap one hot summer day. I peaked in on her to discover her covered in "tatoo marks" from a laundry marking permanent black ink pen...we were due to meet her great grandmother for dinner SOON! I tried everything to get the markings off - nothing. In desperation I grapbbed the "Spray and Wash" - not only did it work like charm - but did not irritate her skin!

newbie

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Subject: In priase of librairies From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:10:00 -0400 X-Message-Number: 39To all of those writing - or studying - about the appraisal business:

Just remember, you do not have to have everything memorized! I crossed my own professional Rubicon when I came to the realization that that is why LIBRAIRIES were invented! ( and knowledgable colleagues) You have to know what you do not know - so you can go look it up! - or have an excuse to buy those books!

Seriously, the more you see "stuff" of every type and quality, the better educated your eye becomes. So when you are confronted by something new, your instincts will be refined. Case in point: I knew very little about pre-Columbian textiles, but was brought in to appraise a collection. When I examined the collection, and photographed the pieces, my "gut" told me that they were not exceptional. Turns out I was right - pieces such as these had been everyday market goods in South America in the 1940's - brought in by Andean farmers who were finding them when they plowed new fields.

So go to antique shows and museum exhibits - what hard duty!

Ok, so enough talk of ice cream - I am alergic to dairy - now what about sorbet?

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Subject: Monofilament bobbinet From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:07:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

Dear list The posts about Tetex/Stabiltex reminds me that I have not gotten on my soap box extolling the virtues of low heat set monfilament bobbinet - conservation net - for a while. So for those of you who have heard this - hit the delete key - the rest of you - please pay attention!

Conservation grade nylon net is woven on 19th c netting machines in Nottingham, England. This is the standard in most Western European textile conservation workshops/departments. It is used by the conservators at Winterthur. Visualize bridal illusion veiling - but so very soft, not scratchy like veiling.

It is exceedingly soft and supple - yet strong and fairly easy to work with. It does not ravel. It has some "give" to it - so it works well on textured surfaces and on upholtered pieces. It is quite sheer and see through - though only available in off white. I have never tried dying it - but I have used a dye stick on it. That was for an 18th silk man's dressing gown (banyon) which was never going to be washed.

That is the good news - the bad news is that it is only available from one supplier in Britain: Dukeries Textiles - no website - does not take credit cards. If you are with an institution he will bill you - if not, I think he will ask that you deposit the amount needed in his American account. It is sold by the metre and is at least 63" ( inches) wide. It runs about $90 a yard - so figure $115 with shipping to the US - One metre goes a LONG way! ( Order with two friends!)

This is FANTASTIC conservation fabric. I just finished using this net to provide a total support for a French silk shawl c1802 belonging to Mrs. James Monroe ( he would be come our 4th President) when her husband was American minister to court of Napoleon. The shawl is so sheer it could have been drawn through a gold wedding ring. It is 8' long and 24" wide - and is splitting throughout. The netting did a great job of providing stability - but not hurting the drape of the garment. I also encased the splitting silk lining of one of President Monroe's waistcoats from the 1780's with this net. - It worked beautifully - you can see the lining, but the net protects the fragile fibers. Due to the nature of a knitted net - it "grabs' the fabric it covers, unlike Stabletex/Tetex which is so very slippery.

I have lost count of the number of quilts I have used this netting on.

He also has wonderful cotton nets, as well.

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Subject: washable graphite From: Edwaquiltaol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:10:46 EDT X-Message-Number: 2

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I have been using and The Stencil Co has been selling the Sketch and Wash graphite pencils for years. Many repeated customers. I worked with General Pencil Co a few years ago to get the lead hardened a bit to make it more adaptable for fabric marking. I marked some off white cotton sateen wholecloth with it and machine quilted and when I had finished it was almost disappeared. Little erasing finished it. Stencil Co has it on their web site and in catalog.

Holice

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Subject: Re: help with a quilting/sewing myth From: Mitzioakesaol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:49:30 EDT X-Message-Number: 3

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Don't know about needles, but the myth goes on about making one mistake in a quilt so as to let God know you are not perfect , only he/she is!. Mitz BTW - I have never had a problem putting ONE mistake in my quilts - I am sure to have good luck if I count mine..... Hot in Vermont today - but we take it happily and don't think about February and 6' of snow......

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Subject: marking utensils From: "Carol's Quilt Closet" <imaquilter2msn.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:18:18 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

"Marking Utensils" a topic that goes straight to my heart.

A few years ago I used a pencil to make a very light mark about 1/4 to 1/2 in. on a quilt I was appliquéing. I did not test beforehand (my mistake) and it did prove to be an unresolved marking. Many of you responded to my post about solutions for taking off the mark but they proved futile. I used everything from solutions to gum erasers and batting. At that point it may have just been on too long.

The quilt was entered into a number of shows and in favor of all of you that judge quilt shows I have such high praise for your thoroughness. I would like to commend the high standards judges and appraisers have set for

themselves. Every judge at every show the quilt was entered in found that small pencil mark even with hand quilting over it. I can barely see it even though I know it's there (have to search myself for mark)

With this in mind you can well imagine why this topic hit home with me. Since that ordeal I have hunted for a truly safe marking tool and have not returned to pencil. I have tried everything from soapstone, chalko liners (yellow does not come out), water erasable marking pencils, Roxanne's, the Ulitmate pounce powder and many more. Nothing is truly safe, yet. I do feel that a lot of factors play into marking and erasing; the fabric, the marker itself, how long it has been on the textile, the temperature at which your environment is, perhaps even down to how hot your hands are when

handling the quilt.

In keeping with this information, using something that is mediocre, almost dissappearing or sometimes vanishing is not good enough for me. Using painters tape, slivers of white soap or a hera marker is fine. I have restricted myself to crosshatching, in the ditch, echoing or free style quilting.

I felt this too important not to share with you all. My hopes are that someday something will be resesarched and manufactured for using in all conditions. For now, we will all have to make a choice we can live with.

This was a first mistake, of course (ha ha), you realize the other mistakes were intended so not to imitate God's perfection and tempt divine wrath.

This "lists" information is a wonderful guide to so many issues. Thank you ONE AND ALL for your openness and willingness to share. I keep learning daily.

Carol in Connecticut

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Subject: Re: Monofilament bobbinet From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:07:10 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

Thanks, Newbie - your post has been copied into my growing Word document!

Dale Drake Restoring quilts in the RAIN (yay!) in central Indiana

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Subject: QHL Masking Tape residue removal From: "Susan Wildemuth" <ksandbcwgeneseo.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:12:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6

What will remove masking tape residue (the sticky) from the back of a

1870-1890 quilt without ruining the front of the quilt?

The back where the residue is at is muslin-like - the front (in the same spot) is red.

Thanks --

Sue

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Subject: Re: Memories of ice cream, soda crackers, and a quilt on top From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:42:32 +0000 X-Message-Number: 7

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>and one of us kids sat on the top to keep the freezer >still. And did you have the tradition that the child who was doing this duty must also tell a story while sitting? At the conclusion of which, the child was to say, 'My tail is told' and then yield the seat to the next child? <G>

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Subject: Re: throw-away garments From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:52:06 +0000 X-Message-Number: 8

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>THIS is a traveler I want to learn from! >Stephanie Higgins >> My sister Dodo was the world's champion in the travel-light category.=

>> She once went (literally) around the world with a single carry-on bag.=

Stephanie, My first thought was, 'She's obviously mastered two skill I don't have: eating without spilling anything on myslef, and avoiding catching clothes on anything, or ripping seams when bending over!' <G> I always pack extra clothes because I'm quite sure something will happen to them if I only take one pair of pants! And sad to say, there have beenenough times that I HAVE had to rearrange my plan for what to wear because some accident rendered an outfit unwearable. There was the time the waiter dropped the tray of frozen daiquiris.... not to mention the time I assumed I would still fit into 'those pants' after several days of feasting....

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Subject: Re: Appraisers From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:19:41 +0000 X-Message-Number: 9

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>ANd Jocelyn - many thanks for the thoughts that cleared up a slight confusion. I am very discomforted by the thought of leaving an unsettled or unkind vibe, so I feel better now. Teddy, I'm glad you do. :) I really don't intend to be mean to people on the list, and it's so easy to say something that to the author is perfectly clear, but is confusing to the reader. I appreciate it when people ask what Imeant by something rather than just assuming that they 'know' that I meant to be rude. I do tend to go off on tangents, of the 'now that you've said that, it reminds me...' and off I go, leaving the original poster wondering how I got there from here. :) For example, Pepper's comment about coffee ice cream got me off thinking about my coffee and butterscotch cake, and how Pepper will be here at Assembly Day on Saturday, and do I havetime between now and then to make one of the cakes...which would, if I do, leave Pepper quite perplexed as to why a woman would come up and hand her a cake! <G> Not to mention, what would she do with it, since she's traveling on from here to another teaching engagement. Which reminds me of a medieval legend about a pike... So you see how my mind goes from topic to topic, and it takes very little stimulus for me to be off on 'That reminds me,' <G> Groups that try to stay on topic all the time astound me. I can't think of any 'real world' groups that are successful at staying on topic all thetime, not even 'work groups' at one's place of employment! Personal comments about off-topic events just seem to naturally creep in. Internet discussion groups over time start to become more and more like 'real world' groups, as we cease to be a group of strangers and start recognizing posters in context. In fact, it seems really artificial to me to try to stay on topic, because 'real life' doesn't have conversation police, and it would be thought rather rude to announce, 'I'm tired of this topic' or 'I'mnot interested in this topic' as a way of changing it...yet this happensall the time in online discussion groups...sigh. To make this quilty... I've been organizing my third bedroom, which is the repository of the craft supplies. It never has fully achieved organization since the move (at least partially because things are having to stay in boxes since there is just nowhere near enough space to unpack everything). Well, I got to the point where I could open the drawers of the VoguePattern cabinet, and go through the things stuffed in there...including quilt tops I had forgotten I have! Oh, I'm looking forward to the day when I can have a nice big studio, and can unpack some of the things in boxes and drawers! :)

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Subject: Re: Thank you, Judy! From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:38:45 +0000 X-Message-Number: 10

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>Yeah, it seems there are several, if not most, who have someone to blamefor >their love of needlework. My mother always claimed that I had inherited her mother's needlework interests (not that my mother had none, mind you; her college major was in clothing construction!). As I've gotten older, I've had relatives say thatI look just like my grandmother, when I'm doing needlework. :) But then...my paternal cousin researched the family tree, and found that our great-grandmother was the 'professor' of needlework at a girls' school in Germany! So I guess I get it from both sides of the family, even though I never knew either of these women.

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Subject: spray and wash From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:02:01 EDT X-Message-Number: 11

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OK, what makes Spray and Wash do it's thing??? I did a little research. It is not an oxygen or chlorine based cleaner, but it can be used with both. It's secret weapon appears to be enyzme (protease). Below is a site that seems to explain enzymes (& other things) pretty well in general. _http://www.healthyhomesplus.com/products/E9_enzyme_enhanced_laundry_solution. htm_ (http://www.healthyhomesplus.com/products/E9_enzyme_enhanced_laundry_solution.htm)

One of these days I am going to finish up the research I began on chlorine, oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, enzymes, etc. I want to compile info about how they can be best used in the world of cleaning vintage textiles. I am tired of these "vintage washes" and other cleaners that tell you nothing. Or....they speak in "chemical" names which can be very hard to understand. We need to be an educated public. Invite me to do a presentation on it and then I will put it ALL together. I have to have a deadline. I think it has to do with my adult on-set of ADD. Speaking of ADD, I should be sewing right now......not checking my email. Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC

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Subject: Re: Needlework gene From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:12:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 12

I just had a lovely visit from my best friend from high school years - we became friends cooking up some mischief to celebrate a favorite teacher's birthday - 45 years ago!!! With that timeline in mind, in those days, girls still took home economics at school and learned to sew at least a little. I was taught by a neighbor whose two daughters bracketed me in age by a year, by my mother (on a treadle machine) and by experience (read, lots of mistakes). Mom also taught me to knit at about age 8, and I taught myself embroidery and crochet. Quilting came mostly in adult years. But the real drive to play with fiber seems to be something beyond the practical skills which were the usual curriculum in those days. I have since discovered that a great aunt, born in Norway, was a skilled needlewoman, and I am lucky enough to have rescued a pair of hardanger pillowcases which she did.

Susan

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Subject: enzyme stuff From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:31:07 EDT X-Message-Number: 13

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I was in a hurry when I sent the post about the enzyme stuff. I just read the entire page. I am not endorsing the product. I have never heard of it before today. It might be great, but I don't have a clue. I sent the link because it did have a good explanation about protease enzymes. If anyone has tried this stuff, let us know. I just wanted to know why Spray and Wash seemed to be such a miracle to cleaner to many of you. Now we know! The chemicals of cleaning fascinate me and frustrate me, too. Lynn in New Bern, NC _www.textilepreservation.com_ (http://www.textilepreservation.com) Historic Textiles Studio .....where I have an 8 ft X 10 ft stainless steel wash tank with a dionized water system.

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Subject: hand quilting & Air conditioners From: Laura Syler <texasquiltcoairmail.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:09:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14

Air Conditioning in Texas is not a must, it is manditory! If it's not hot, it's humid! I remember =0D spending summers at my grandparents house in Temple - just about half way between Dallas and =0D Austin. No central AC or window units, plenty of ceiling and floor fans but some times it was just =0D plain miserable. I would rather not hand quilt in the summer! Too much other stuff do do outside =0D (like right now fight the flies and mosquitoes that all the rain have brought). But, IMHO, our =0D culture and life styles have made it possible for us to quilt year round. That is when we can make =0D the time!=0D =0D Laura Syler=0D

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Subject: One copy (I think) of a wanted book is available From: "Judy Grow"

I got this message from Abebooks.com. I already have the book, so feel free. It is $98.00, and is in French. Judy

We're pleased to tell you that Abebooks.com has successfully found the following book(s) you want.

Your Want: # A500291252 Title: ANDRINOPLE LE ROUGE MAGNIFIQUE; ISBN: 2732421359;

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Subject: AQSG Seminar From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:01:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

For those of you, and I trust there are many, who are planning to attend the AQSG Seminar in Lowell (if you haven't registered yet there's still time) I want to encourage you to sign up for the Works in Progress session scheduled for (early) Friday morning at the Seminar. It's a great opportunity for feedback, networking and advice on your research. We all have a pet project, a special interest. Here's an opportunity to share it with an interested audience. This session is for everybody; you don't have to have anything in writing or be aiming at Uncoverings. I guarantee that just hearing what others are thinking about will reward you for getting out of bed early. Laurel Horton, editor of Uncoverings, Gaye Ingram, editor of Blanket Statements, and I, chair of the Mentoring Committee, hope that we'll have an overflow crowd. Please register with me so we'll have an idea of the space required. I'll be reminding you about this again. Be prepared; I am persistent. Cinda

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Subject: Re: hand quilting & Air conditioners From: Mitzioakesaol.com Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:34:12 EDT X-Message-Number: 3

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Oh yes AC is nice to have in summer. Now, I am owner of an AC business, and guess who does NOT have AC? You guessed it - the shoemaker's child!. But Vermont doesn't see too many hot days where hand work would be a challenge, so I don''t complain. See, if all my techs are out working making others cool, then they bring in more $$$ and I can buy more fabric for the cold months here in the NE. See everything is perfect. Now back to my shorts and fans and iced tea. Mitzi

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Subject: Protective edging From: "Kim Baird" <kbairdcableone.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:24:20 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

Help!

I know perfectly well what you call a piece of fabric sewn over the top edge of a quilt, to protect it from the oil of hands and beards. My brain just won't spit out the term!

In fact, there is probably more than one name for such a cover.

Anyone know the words I'm looking for?

Kim

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Subject: Re: Protective edging From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:09:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

Beard guard. Cinda on the Eastern shore

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Subject: RE: Protective edging From: "Kay Sorensen" <Kaykaysorensen.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:52:08 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Chin Wiper. Kay S

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Subject: RE: Protective edging From: "Miller, Maretta K" <millermkuww.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:51:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

Hi Kim!

Well...I've heard it called a "beard guard" but I know it has another term by which it's known. I have one on a family quilt from c. 1900, but I can never remember that other term!

Maretta In parched very southern Wisconsin 

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Subject: Re: Protective edging From: Alice McElwain <siscofayyahoo.com> 

I've always heard it called a "whisker guard". In the old days many men wore full beards and personal hygiene was not practiced like it is today. So they would often go to bed, maybe in their long handled under ware, with a beard that had caught the meals of the day of gravy, etc. and then with the act of pulling up the covers with not too clean hands; it was a way to protect the quilt and not have to wash it so often, which was a BIG undertaking in then to get it washed, dried and back on the bed without the help of the washer and dryers we have today. The "whisker guards" were most often just a piece of linen or muslin folded in half the width of the quilt and buttoned on via buttons and button holes; usually about 20"-30" wide.

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Subject: Sitting atop the freezer From: Gary Parrett <gparret1yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 9

"My tail is told."

Fortunately, by the time one of the grownups took over the cranking, the ice cream was getting thick, just not thick enough to suit the ice cream maker's desires, but our little arms ran out of strength and patience, so the grownups took over. There were usually enough kids that we didn't need to sit too long before relief arrived. We were not made to tell a tale, and usually our tail didn't get that cold due to the thicknesses of the folded quilt.

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Subject: Travel & Wardrobe From: Teddy Pruett <aprayzerhotmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:23:38 -0400 X-Message-Number: 10

<<My first thought was, 'She's obviously mastered two skill I don't have: e=3Dating without spilling anything on myslef, and avoiding catching clothes=3Don anything, or ripping seams when bending over!' <G>>>> Ah, I remember well a day-trip from Spain to Morrocco. We were on a littlecruise-y type watercraft, and when I got up from my seat, I found that a loose spring had attached itself to my rump. I had on a jumpsuit (eeegads!!) and when I stood up, I ripped a loose a section of rear-end about 5" square. Funny thing is, I don't even remember what I did about it. DO you suppose I ran gleefully through the casbah with my booty showing???Teddy Pruett www.teddypruett.com Only a few of the lies they tell about me are true. 

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Subject: Marking From: Joe Cunningham <joejoethequilter.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:07:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 11

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I was reading one of the many recent posts about marking implements and marking methods when it occurred to me that I needed to mention a traditional alternative: no marking. In the 1980's I studied marking at length and wrote about it a lot. But in the early years of the 1990's I realized that the loose, asymmetrical style of many of the feather wreaths, cables and cross hatchings I found on old quilts could possibly have been the result of the quilter working freehand, with no markings to follow. After many years of drawing and quilting these kinds of designs, I figured I could just do it freehand myself. It turned out to be much easier than I imagined. I have taught a freehand quilting workshop many times over the last dozen years and have taught many hand quilters how to make cables, feathers and all kinds of designs with no markings at all. I wrote an article for Threads in 1997 on this subject and I think it is still available on the internet at

http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t00030.asp

Since then I have hand quilted dozens of tops freehand, and I continue to see old quilts that I believe were quilted freehand. Any of you who have studied old quilts up close have probably wondered at one time or another how a quilter marked such a wobbly cable, such a lopsided feather wreath, or how many different templates would have been required for the dozens of different leaves on a quilt. Some, at least, were quilted without markings.

Joe Cunningham in foggy San Francisco, Still hand quilting after all these years

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Subject: Re: Marking From: Xenia Cord <xenialegacyquilts.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:03:30 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12

I think Joe Cunningham is right; a lot of antique quilts appear to be quilted without prior marking. There is also this: in the north of England, north country quilts were often marked with the tip of a needle. The lines were drawn - with or without templates - by making an indent in the fabric with the tip of the needle. These indents would

not show under the quilting lines, and would also disappear with washing.

But here is another question to think about. Why are we so determined to leave no tracks on the quilts we make? Do "they say" that marks should not appear to indicate where quilting is done? Is our quilting governed by standards of judging created for competitions? Even if many antique quilts do not show evidence of marking, many do in fact have pencil marks or blue lines from carpenter's chalklines on them. In fact the presence of these marks speaks to the pristine state of some

antique quilts, indicating they have never been used or washed. And the mechanically printed "blue dots" of quilting lines on kit quilts stand as evidence of their type.

When we find and venerate those "Boxes Under the Bed" that have been left behind by past quilters, something we find in abundance there are hand made quilting templates of all sorts. They are outline-cut from P & W cracker box cardboard, pricked on paper by hand or with a sewing machine for pouncing with chalk powder, drawn from already quilted quilts or from the patterns of friends.

Visible marking doesn't seem so terrible to me...

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Subject: RE: Protective edging From: "Kay Sorensen" <Kaykaysorensen.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:03:27 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

I have at least one on an antique quilt of mine. My husband had one on his quilt when he was growing up. His mother covered it so well with sheets, etc I don't think he even knew he had a quilt on the bed. Kay In very hot very humid very southern WI - almost in Chicago!

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Subject: Re: Marking From: "Dale Drake" <ddrakeccrtc.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:45:01 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Another thought about pencil marks on quilts - given all we've said about how hard pencil is to remove, it's quite likely that our conclusion that an antique quilt with pencil marks has never been washed may not be true at all. Our foremothers just didn't have Spray and Wash or fabric erasers to remove the marks - and probably didn't much care.

I often use the eye end of a needle, or a hera, for marking. Works great! But I'll practice on my freehand quilting now...

Dale Drake in cloudy muggy Indiana

Xenia said: In fact the presence of these marks speaks to the pristine state of some antique quilts, indicating they have never been used or washed.

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Subject: RE: Protective edging From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:15:24 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1

We also have to remember that it was a fashion in the 1800's (the time frame escapes me) when the men put some sort of pomade in their beards, presumably to make them look better.

Alan

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Subject: Re: Marking From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:56:42 +0000 X-Message-Number: 2

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Joe, The 'expert hand-quilter' in my former guild also endorsed quilting without marking. She said it was the like the difference between using slightly mottled or hand-dyed 'solids' and using a uniformly dyed solid in a quilt top: the slight variations gave a liveliness to the quilting designs that wasn't present if she made each one identical. I suspect, though, that her skills in quilting without marking were dependent upon her years of experience in hand-quilting marked designs, just as experienced machine-quilters can do feathers of uniform size and shape without marking them. :)

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Subject: Re: Marking From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:09:06 +0000 X-Message-Number: 3

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I had the pleasure yesterday of meeting Pepper Cory and attending her lecture at the TVQA annual Assemby Day meeting. I was reminded of Arthur Brisbane's comment about how the readers of his column often commented on their amazement that he is a tall man: 'Apparently, they assume that since the picture that accompanies my column is thesize of a postage stamp, I must be, too.' <G> At any rate, I can assure you that Pepper is taller than the pictures in the author's notes of her books. <G> For some reason, I had always pictured her as being short (I suppose someone will next tell me that Teddy Pruit's tall and blonde... funny how you get mental images of people on a listserv in the complete absence of clues about how they look!) At any rate, I got a copy of Pepper's book about how to mark quilts, and I must say, just from scanning it and reading the first chapter, that I don't believe there's much information out there about how to mark quilts that isn't contained in this book. So if you really want to delve into quilt marking, contact Pepper, as I believe she told me the book is lapsingfrom print, but she had several copies left when she packed up her salestable at the end of the day. Pepper spoke on the Art of the Scrap Quilt. I was one of the 'quilt paraders', charged with carrying her quilts through the audience (we met in a gymnasium) and tilting them this way and that so the quilters could see both side of the quilt and take pictures. Unfortunately, this meant that Iwasn't able to pay as much attention to Pepper's talk, and to focus on the quilt she was talking about at the moment, as I would have liked. At any rate, it was an amusing and interesting presentation, and if your guild is considering a national speaker, I highly recommend that you considerPepper. We had over a dozen vendors, spread out in six different rooms of the church where we met. I did some shopping, but by the end of the day, was so tired that I simply couldn't make a decision about which of the thousandsof FQs in bins I would like to buy. Which was probably just as well, as my goal for July has been to get my 'third bedroom' organized, and addingmore fabric to find a location for certainly wouldn't assist with that task! :)

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Subject: Quilt Exhibits - The Quilters Hall of Fame From: karenquiltrockisland.com Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 4

Hello Ladies from the sunny but decently cool San Juan Islands after two weeks in the hot humid heartland! Here's a heads-up on TQHF happenings. Sure appreciate the sharing that those who attended this years events did. I leave for England and Deb Robert's quilt study tour August 4th! I am so excited!! The French textile tour last year was spectacular. I expect this tour to be the same and am looking forward to finally putting names to faces on the British Quilt Study List.

Karen Alexander President, The Quilters Hall of Fame

Future Quilt Exhibits in Marion, Indiana, Sponsored by The Quilters Hall of Fame Open: March-December Hours - Tuesday-Saturday 10:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.Closed: Sunday, Monday & major holidays and the months of January & February

2007 Honoree Exhibit - " Mary Schafer: American Quilt Maker? July 19-22 - at Marion Public Library August 5 ? Sept 30 ? at The Quilters Hall of Fame Guest Curator: Gwen Marston of Beaver Island, Michigan

2007 Fall-Winter at The Quilters Hall of Fame Oct 1 ? Dec 31, 2007 "Small and Smaller: 100 years of Doll and Crib Quilts" Guest Curators: Judi Gunter and Phyllis Twigg of Maryland

2008 Spring March 1- end of June Tentative title: Baltimore Applique Quilts and Their History Guest Curator: Mary Lou McDonald and the Baltimore Applique Society

July 1-September 30, 2008 Tentative title: The Quilts of Helen Kelley

July 2009 - TQHF Celebrates its TRIPLE ANNIVERSARY: 150th birthday of Marie Webster; 30th anniversary of the founding of TQHF; and the 5th anniversary of the opening of the restored Marie Webster House as the headquarters of The Quilters Hall of Fame

Celebration dates for The Quilters Hall of Fame for next 8 years

2008 July 17-20 2009 July 16-19 2010 July 15-18 2011 July 14-17 2012 July 19-22 2013 July 18-21 2014 July 17-20 2015 July 16-19

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Subject: Re: Marking From: "Velia Lauerman" <velialivehotmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:49:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

For what it's worth Grandma Manulita, Tia Maggie and my mom Candelaria Torres Gutierrez quilted without marking with any kind of pencil or markings. Maybe it was too hot and marks came off when quilting in Texas or there was little money to buy extras ( maybe they used cinnamon or flour sometimes ) but the visions of them marking little lines with their finger nail is the thing that stuck with me in my quilting. Curves , straight V's or X's, or echo around appliqu�s. Velia

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Subject: software recommendation? From: "Kimberly Wulfert, PhD" <quiltdatingjetlink.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:56:21 -0700 X-Message-Number: 6

Hi All,

 

I am trying to discern whether or not software programs for non-fiction writing are worthwhile. There are very few out there and they could be more trouble than they are worth. It would also be great to get feedback from you about the programs that format citations in the proper style, usually Chicago. There are more of this type of grammar programs around then the ones that help you organize your notes for EASY retrieval. I would get both if they simplified the process. I find when it comes to writing my research findings into a paper, researching today is complicated by the computer, not simplified because there are more places to pull info from stored on it then when I did all note taking by hand or Xerox and filed them by subject then chapter. If I did all the note taking on the computer, that would also work, but doing that doesn't really suit my style of spontaneity and a dislike for sitting at the computer, but it may come to that I realize.

 

I've been looking for such a program for 2 years now, and there are many for fiction writing, but non-fiction is sorely unrepresented. So writers, what do you recommend, or use, or no longer use because it wasn't worthwhile?

 

Thanks ever so,

Kim

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Subject: Re: Protective edging From: "Nancy Ray" <nancy.raystarband.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:20:24 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

All, I've heard that strip of fabric sewn on the quilt to protect it against soil, beards, or whatever, a "whisker guard." Makes sense to me, although I suspect that many quilters just called it whatever they called it, much like some names of quilt patterns that aren't recognized outside an immediate family or community. Nancy Ray in suddenly hot, really humid, West Virginia

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Subject: Re Support the honey bee From: <parsnips1verizon.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:59 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

Gaye, I'd be happy to offer some suggestions for maintaining your gardens organically, but maybe we should continue this off list? Pat

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Subject: Re: software recommendation? From: qwltngrdmaaol.com Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:39:28 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

The message for software recommendation from Kimberly Wulfert was empty. Now I am curious to know what the recommendation would be.

TIA

Carol

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Subject: RE: Writing programs From: Teddy Pruett <aprayzerhotmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:43:51 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Wish I had some ideas for you, Kim. As you say, there seem to be many programs available for fiction writing. Have you checked the ads in a recent Writer's Digest Magazine? I'd do it for you, but am preparing to take a final in Logic today before I head out to Massachusetts/New Hampshire tomorrow. What a waste of brain power that class is. LOTS of brain power - it's one of the toughest classes I've had.   When I did a research paper in microbiology last semester, the college librarian showed me some sites available through universities that actually putthe correct citation together for you. It has become extremely difficult to cite properly now - no matter what info I get from websites, particularly when they are quoting someone else's writing, such as a newspaper article- the "formula" for citing never actually fits.   ANd yes, here I am in public in front of the entire world letting everyone know that I didn't get to finish school when I was of the proper age. Now that I am older than dirt, I'm attending. I am not proud that I didn't getto go before, but I am proud that I'm toughing it out now. No reward at the end, no job, no raise - as a matter of fact, I'll probably hit social scurity age before I'm through!!! Ha ha.  ANd Jocelyn - I do wish I could say that I am tall and blonde - alas, I cannot. I've had white hair since my 20's, white skin, blue eyes, and am sopale I glow in the dark. Tall? - well, 5'7". Moderate. Weight is over-moderate!!!Teddy Pruett www.teddypruett.com If you steal an idea from one person it is plagiarism.If you steal ideas from a lot of people it is called research.Oscar Wilde http://maps.live.com/?wip=3D69&FORM=3DMGAC01=

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Subject: Textiles in America From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 3

AARGH! I just received a notice from the internet company from whom I ordered it that the republication of Textiles in America is AGAIN delayed - this time until October. I ordered it in February! Anyone else having this difficulty? Anyone bought it elsewhere?? Linda, I know this isn't anything you have responsibility for - but it is a bit exasperating. Susan

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Subject: Re: software recommendation From: "Force Majeure Quilt Restoration" <fmquiltsfrontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:57:37 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

Kim, I do a lot of online research for a wide variety of subjects -- bookmarking into my favorites list grew unwieldy many years ago. I have found using del.icio.us ( http://del.icio.us/) to attach multiple tags to a document to be the best alternative, though there are other tagging applications out there. I've also got a clipmarks account (http://www.clipmarks.com/) which takes things a step further and lets you highlight the specific chunk of text within an online document that you want to save. With these tools, I can categorize, index, and notate on the fly as I scan through material. Afterwards, I can search my tags and it will pull up everything related. The more tags you use, the more precisely it will automatically subcategorize your search results.

As for grammar software, I suggest you visit CNET (http://www.cnet.com) and see if you can find some vetted freeware.

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Subject: Handmade Alabama Quilts Find Fame and Controversy From: Judy Schwender <sister3603yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:14:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 5

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Handmade Alabama Quilts Find Fame and Controversy By SHAILA DEWAN Published: July 29, 2007 NY Times GEE’S BEND, Ala. — Until a decade ago, worn-out quilts made by generations of black women in this remote, rural loop of land were stuffed under mattresses or burned to keep mosquitoes away.

But then Bill Arnett, a white champion of self-taught black artists, began a rescue mission, buying dozens of the quilts and ultimately creating one of the biggest surprise hits in the art world’s recent memory. The Gee’s Bend quilts, pulsating with a sense of color and rhythm more akin to abstract painting, have since broken attendance records in the country’s most elite museums. They have been reproduced on calendars, scarves, Visa gift cards and first-class postage stamps.

If the quilts were a blockbuster, however, the sequel came this summer: two of the quilters, Loretta Pettway and Annie Mae Young, filed lawsuits against Mr. Arnett and his sons, saying they had been cheated out of thousands of dollars in proceeds from their work and copyrights.

The story line — poor, uneducated black women swindled by “scheming Atlanta businessmen,” as one newspaper article called the Arnetts — was juicy enough to be front-page news in the South. The reality, though, is more nuanced. The vast majority of the quilters remain satisfied with the Arnetts (there were works by 22 living quilters, including Ms. Pettway and Ms. Young, in the most recent museum exhibit).

“Martin Luther King got us out of the cotton patch; the Arnetts got us out from under the bedsprings and onto the museum walls,” said Nettie Young, whose living room furniture is arranged around a rug patterned after one of her quilts. Of the plaintiffs, she said: “I don’t know what they sued for. They ain’t told me, and I ain’t asked them.”

From lawsuits to hexes, disputes are a time-honored tradition in the field variously called folk, outsider or visionary art — a field whose biggest stars include many isolated Southerners and whose biggest champions include art-world sophisticates like Mr. Arnett, who once dealt in high-end Asian and African pieces. But in Gee’s Bend, the Arnetts said they tried to avoid the usual pitfalls. They encouraged the women to set up a collective to sell the quilts themselves and a foundation to control money from royalties.

The Arnetts say that they take no cut from either kitty, only occasionally take commissions from gallery sales, and that they have poured hundreds of thousands of their own dollars into cataloging, promoting and licensing the quilts. What is more, they said, they bought hundreds of quilts of little artistic value just to help the women.

But even those measures did not forestall the inevitable.

“When you mix the old South, race, educational and class differences, the subjective value of art, the egos of the art elite and the good old greenback, you’ve got yourself a powder keg ready to blow,” said Andrew Dietz, the author of “The Last Folk Hero,” a book published last year about Mr. Arnett’s relationships with Thornton Dial, Lonnie Holley and other notable black artists, many of whom also defend him.

The book portrays Mr. Arnett as disorganized to the point of dysfunction, passionate to the point of self-righteousness and wary to the point of paranoia, but it presents no evidence that he was anything but honest with artists.

As the lawsuits suggest, Gee’s Bend, a community of about 700 people, virtually all of them descendants of slaves, has not changed as much as might be expected since the quilters attained fame. The foundation was slow to obtain nonprofit status and only this month elected a board. And some of the largest licensing deals have yet to ramp up. Kathy Ireland, who licensed the quilts for a line of home décor products, said in a June 15 statement that her company had paid more to the quilters than it had earned.

When the Arnetts began visiting Gee’s Bend, laying out hundreds of dollars for old quilts, the women thought they were crazy. Since the exhibit, which originated at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston in 2002 and went on to the Whitney in New York and many other museums, the quilts have occasionally sold for more than $20,000. But the most valuable quilts, the ones in the original show, are owned by the Arnetts, who say they will not sell them on the open market.

Most of the rest do not bring such high amounts. The quilters’ collective, an informal group of about 40 members, pays $150 a month to rent a former day care center marked by a small, hand-painted sign, where one room is stacked floor to ceiling with quilts. Small quilts go for $200 to $1,000, while bed-sized ones are priced at $950 to $7,500.

When a sale is made, half the money goes to the quilter and half to the collective, which periodically disburses dividends to all members. Royalties from reproductions of the quilts go into the foundation, which now contains $147,000. The system was designed to forestall jealousy, protect elderly quilters who can no longer sew, and acknowledge the interdependent nature of the community, where many quilters are related and styles were handed down from mother to daughter.

“We’re not trying to set up a socialized state,” Mr. Arnett said, “but we were doing something in between.” Ms. Pettway and Ms. Young acknowledge receiving multiple payments from the Arnetts ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, but say they have no accounting of the total or any list of the quilts bought or borrowed. They also say they received dividends from the collective even though they never placed quilts there to sell.

But Ms. Young and Ms. Pettway, whose quilts have been featured on the covers of two of the three books the Arnetts have produced, contend that they have not seen the full benefits of their success.

“I was just hearing them say, the quilts were worth more than that,” Ms. Young said. “The quilts were worth more than they was giving us.”

A third lawsuit, brought by Lucinda Pettway, a resident of Mobile, Ala., whose forebears lived in Gee’s Bend, accused the Arnetts of refusing to return two of the community’s oldest quilts, dating to slavery times. The Arnetts have since returned the quilts, but say an appraisal showed that they were not nearly that old and were worth less than $500.

To Loretta Pettway, a woman for whom indoor plumbing is a relatively recent luxury, big-city museums, glossy hardcover books and color postage stamps can look like a lot of money, even though they rarely produce profits.

“You’re making money,” she insisted, gesturing at an oversize book containing color reproductions of her quilts. “Because you ain’t going to be doing this if you’re not getting paid.”

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Subject: Re: Textiles in America From: Dana Balsamo <danabalsamoyahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

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Hi Susan, I got the same notification today. I know it will be worth the wait. My best, Dana

Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com> wrote: AARGH! I just received a notice from the internet company from whom I ordered it that the republication of Textiles in America is AGAIN delayed - this time until October. I ordered it in February! Anyone else having this difficulty? Anyone bought it elsewhere?? Linda, I know this isn't anything you have responsibility for - but it is a bit exasperating. Susan

Material Pleasures Antique and Vintage Textiles - Wrap Yourself in History www.materialpleasures.com

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Subject: RE: Textiles in America From: "Candace Perry" <candaceschwenkfelder.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:26:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

Well, Amazon told me they cancelled my order, and I don't even know why. I'm just going to buy it from Winterthur. The heck with this. I think Linda did let us know that she had one, and they'd be available from Winterthur. Candace Perry

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Subject: RE: Writing programs From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:38:19 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9

Teddy,

I believe you should be proud of yourself for finishing regardless! The rewards will be plenty when you are done. I have been taking classes off and on most of my adult life because I'm still not sure what I want to do when I grow up; never mind I am nearly 50!

Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle

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Subject: Gee's Bend From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:30:00 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10

Here's a new article (at least new for me). http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/us/29quilt.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

 

Blessed be, Alan

Alan R. Kelchner Mixed Media/Textile Artist http://alanrkelchner.com

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Subject: Re: Textiles in America From: TEXTIQUEaol.com Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:52:44 EDT X-Message-Number: 11

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Susan;

I saw a copy in Borders last week.

Jan

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Subject: nyt article gees bend quilts From: ikwlt <ikwltyahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 12

i'm on digest so this might already have been brought to the attention of the list. patti

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/ 

 

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Subject: publication From: Polly Greene <pjgreeneeastlink.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:23:32 -0300 X-Message-Number: 13

Susan -- I too just received notice that Textiles in America, which I

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Subject: Victoria Magazine From: Pat Kyser <patkyserhiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:29:16 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Earlier some of you were discussing Victoria Magazine. Martha Pullen

has announced that Hoffman Media (Birmingham, AL) is launching Victoria Magazine in November. They have bought the rights from the original publisher. Pre-subscriptions are being taken, but I do not have that address. Am sure you can find out through Google. Pat in Alabama

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Subject: Re: Victoria Magazine From: Jackie Joy <joysbeesyahoo.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:45:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 2

I subscribed to Victoria Magazine for several years, and then they did an editorial shift to be more contemporary, almost a Martha Stewart Living wannabe. I asked for and received my money back. However, I loved the old Victoria; the floral photography, fashions, and home dec were a pleasure to view. I have subscribed to the new Victoria in hopes that it will be as good as it was.

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Subject: An FYI and congratulations are in order From: "Candace Perry" <candaceschwenkfelder.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:41:33 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

Chester County Historical Society in West Chester, PA received major federal funding for an upcoming quilt project. This is a highly competitive grant!

Chester County Historical Society - West Chester, PA Award Amount: $129,863; Matching Amount:$140,313 Grant Category: Serving as Centers of Community Engagement Contact: Ellen Endslow Curator (610) 692-4066 ext. 257; eendslowchestercohistorical.org

Project Title: "Chester County Quilt Exhibition and Publication" The grant will enable the Chester County Historical Society (CCHS) to implement a quilt exhibition and publication using data (narrative and photographic) collected during their community-based quilt documentation in 2002-03. More than 800 quilts, quilt blocks, and quilt tops were documented by a volunteer team under the supervision of CCHS staff. In this next step, the community, including quilters, schoolchildren, and scholars, will be directly involved in selecting objects for the exhibition, helping write labels, and producing the publication narrative. Undergraduate students at a local university will assist with educational components for the exhibition and develop evaluation tools. This project is a direct outgrowth of community interest.

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Subject: Textiles in America From: "Linda Eaton" <LEatonwinterthur.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:15:03 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

Textiles in America has been shipped to various retailers, and should be available now - I have no idea why some on-line sellers are saying that it has been delayed. Our bookstore has just received their first shipment so if you have trouble finding it elsewhere you can order it from us by calling 302.888.4707, 800.448.3883 or emailing bookstorewinterthur.org. 

 

Linda Eaton

Curator of Textiles

Winterthur Museum

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Subject: Roommate needed for Lowell Quilt Festival From: "Bonnie Dwyer" <bonniedwyeradelphia.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:50:48 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

Is anyone attending the Lowell Quilt Festival this weekend? I have a room at the host hotel for Friday and Saturday nights, if anyone wants to share expenses.

Bonnie Dwyer Quilt Appraiser, Certified by the American Quilter's Society Member, Professional Association of Appraisers of Quilted Textiles State Coordinator, Home of the Brave Quilt Project Manchester, Maine (207) 446-7311 bonniedwyeradelphia.net

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Subject: software recommendation From: "Kimberly Wulfert, PhD" <quiltdatingjetlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:58:25 -0700 X-Message-Number: 6

HI again,

I have been told my earlier request for recommendations turned up blank. However, it didn't in the digest version.

I am looking for comments and recommendations for software specific to non-fiction writing that will help one to organize and locate their research notes quickly and easily. I have come across very few options for non-fiction organizing.

There are quite a few programs for converting citations into the preferred style; any comments on this would also be appreciated.

Thank you,

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Subject: critters From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:18:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

Will some kind soul please remind me about freezing a quilt to eliminate critters. Thanks. Cinda on the Eastern Shore

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Subject: Dating Club From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:53:51 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

Patriotic and political textiles were out theme for the Dating Club on Sunday afternoon. We were delighted to be joined by Bobbi Finley from Williamsburg and Sharon Waddel from the Hudson Valley. Bobbi brought her reproduction of the Lincoln, Grant, Colfax quilt made in 1869. You can see the original on p. 10 of Hearts and Hands.There were lots of red, white and blue quilts (naturally) and lots of Log Cabins. A center medallion had a miniature Lone Star in the middle, circa 1860, with a series of frames from the early 1900s. Jean Fries whose quilts are often featured in Quilters' Newsletter showed us 9 thirties Sting Stars appliquéd to muslin and beautifully quilted. Jean's husband found a 1950s print labeled in the selvage "Pirates, Ships and Sailors inspired by a 1950s Little Golden Book of the same name and recently reprinted. The quilt Jean made with the sailor fabric is charming. A WWII banner decorated with stars and parachutes said "Welcome Home Buddy." We saw red fabrics from Garibaldi prints to early French toiles and turkey red border stripes A red, white and blue Ocean Waves from the 1930s was embellished with appliquéd orange stars. A 9-Patch variation with Hail Columbia sashing was very patriotic indeed as was a collection of Centennial fabric including "To Philadelphia" (the little guy riding the eagle) and the Harrison and Reform fabric from 1840. 9-Patches with white Turkey Tracks appliquéd on them and a modified Garden Maze set included fabrics ranging from 1850 to 1880 and signatures and locations including California and Missouri. We had Garfield in redwork and Sally Buchanan's white crewel work spread signed and dated 1876. A quilt from Oklahoma made of wool rectangles

commemorated the Spanish American War with an embroidered portrait of

Theodore Roosevelt, along with a road runner, many initials, the date 1898 and the embroidered names Manila and Santiago. A very pretty VS. for Victory quilt in pink, blue and white had lovely floral embroidery. I forgot my Polk's Fancy quilt which would have fit the theme perfectly and instead brought little bits: the JFK banner I bought at the AQSG auction, an Al Smith scarf, an "I Like Ike" bandana, the Centennial Exhibition bandana, etc. Scary when you realize how much "stuff" has

accumulated. Not part of the theme, but very exciting were a Mariners Compass from Loch Haven, PA (Central PA) circa 1860, a chintz 4-Patch (1830) with T-corners and a pillar print on the back, two 1850 Maryland beauties an Ohio Star all red and green except for one yellow and green star in the center and a Triple Irish Chain in red, green and yellow with a 1/2 square triangle border. We got some tips on using scrap booking supplies to store blocks and fabric. We also saw a few new bunnies which have entered the hutch. What's the count now, Bunnie? Cinda on the Eastern Shore, land of bad restaurants, who enjoyed two wonderful meals on Sunday.

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Subject: RE: critters (freezing process info) From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" <mgmooneymoonware.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:02:20 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9

Good evening, fellow QHLers - Here is the link to the National Park Service ConserveOGram that addresseses the how-to's to use a regular freezer (NOT a frost-free model) to kill insect infestations:

http://www.nps.gov/history/museum/publications/conserveogram/03-06.pdf

Please follow the instructions very carefully.

... Will some kind soul please remind me about freezing a quilt to eliminate critters....

Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net

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Subject: Query for those attending Seminar From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:26:29 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10

Several weeks ago, someone suggested that those interested in discussing the issues that arose on qhl/AQSG lists re Gee's Bend exhibition might arrange to meet at the annual seminar.

I had noted that I believed the Gee's Bend exhibition and the varied strong responses to it pointed to unresolved issues of importance beyond that particular exhibition---issues that included the appropriate standards for judging quilts, the various types of analysis which scholars and art critics might use to "read" quilts, the most appropriate venues for bodies of quilts like those from Gee's Bend, and so on.

Specifically, I asked, Are there standards by which all quilts may be judged? Or does each quilt suggest the standards appropriate to it? How do we compare the Mid-western quilts of original design with those made from commercial patterns but with superior craft? What are our biases? Are they valid? In what ways do they limit or help us?

Should museums devoted to fine arts reject exhibits of folk art? Does folk art suggest a set of standards distinct from the ones appropriate to fine art? Jane Livingston's essay in the Houston book makes a strong claim for the artistic value of the quilts. Has anyone challenged her methods and conclusions? If you disagree, will you? And what about the other essays, one by a member of our list?

How familiar are we with the body of quilts produced by Southern African-American makers? With Southern white makers? Is Gee's Bend unique? How do the quilts of urban, northern African-Americans compare with those of rural, southern African-Americans? How do they relate to quilts of other regional traditions? Paul Arnett states flatly that the quilts and fame of Gee's Bend are political. To what extent has politics, broadly defined, accounted for their fame? Can you prove that? Do you resent that? Feel okay with it?

What of legacy value? Have we now ruled that out as relevant in quilts? And what do those answers imply for African-Americans? The rest of us? What qualities are passed on in the GB quilts?

Several members have contacted me and asked when we were meeting. I did not recall that aside from a couple of folks, anyone had said they were interested in such an informal gathering. And I did not recall being the one appointed to arrange such a gathering.

If, however, there is sufficient interest in the Gee's Bend quilts---NOT the paraphernalia, but the quilts themselves---and the issues they raise, I will try to coordinate the effort and locate the most convenient time and place. I will also, with help, try to focus the issues raised in our online discussions.

I don't wish to raise the GB issue as a point of discussion on our lists. If you are interested in being part of such a discussion, simply email me privately and let me know, I will compile a list and see if I can find three or four disinterested people to help guide that discussion. It would help if you would also suggest time/times for it. When all responses are in, I will send a group mailing to those who reply.

This discussion would not be "official," and it will not conflict with any scheduled seminar event.

In my post, I said,

"I'm talking about a serious discussion, a conversation from which we can learn. I believe it always benefits us when we examine our biases, our aesthetic and craft assumptions, and our reasoning. We almost always learn from the experience. I am inviting others to join me in a serious reconsideration of this set of quilts----completely apart from their marketing---and more importantly, a reconsideration of the standards we use in general and how we employ them. I wonder how others reason about them and why. I wonder what standards others use and why."

Just let me know if you're interested. Nothing more.

Thanks, Gaye Ingram

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Dear List,

Studio Quilt Study Group, the study group of the Greater Delaware Valley had another one of our famous field trips, this one planned for us by our farthest-flung regular attendee, Sue Reich. The same Connecticut Historic Societies that displayed their quilt collections for tours from the AQSG seminar last October opened their doors to us this week.

Sue regularly drives to NJ from her home in West-Central Connecticut to attend our bi-monthly meetings -- and drives back home on the same day! I never really understood what kind of devotion she has to our group until DH Allan and I made the drive this week. It took three full hours, and that wasn't in any heavy traffic!

Some 30 people attended, some from our group, some from the New England group, and two intrepid souls all the way from Kansas! No one was disappointed in the trip Sue planned for us and new friendships were formed.

I will not do a quilt-a-logue in this post because there were too many to describe or even to pick favorites, but I will describe the events of the trip.

Our first stop, on Tuesday at 12:30, was at the New Milford Historical Society, where we saw 31 quilts ranging in age from the early 19th century to 1976.

We should all know the famous painting of Elijah Boardman, 18th century merchant from New Milford and Senator from Connecticut.

http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/viewOne.

 This painting has him standing in front of a bookcase and bolts of fabric which he carried in his dry goods store. We stood in the very same shop, which has been moved to the historical society grounds. In their main display hall is another portrait of Elijah, a copy of the original, but with the fabrics replaced with more books. Someone thought it was more fitting to show him with books once he was elected to the Senate.

Afterwards we drove to Sue's beautiful home in the foothills of the Berkshires for dinner. The weather was perfect and we all got to wander in Sue's gorgeous garden, in full flower and aroma.

After a drive of less than an hour we arrived at the same Marriott in Fairfield where AQSG was held last October, and after a brief rest we met downstairs for a 3-hour show and tell. Most had brought quilts that spoke of New England heritage, but we did see quilts from other areas.

Wednesday we drove to Wethersfield to see the quilts in the Wethersfield Historic Society, and both quilts, very early crewel covers and bed curtains, and the houses and contents of the Webb-Deane-Stevens Museum.

Our new Kansas friends had another day of sight-seeing, but we made it home to NJ before dark.

Our many, many thanks go to Sue, who made sure that there were no glitches or disappointments during our two days in Connecticut. What a woman!

Judy Grow

 

 


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