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Subject: Hi / bye! From: "Bill Volckening" <williamvolckeningcomcast.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 06:26:21 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1
Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been participating in the discussion over the last
couple years. I've been very busy and have started a new magazine for US
Masters Swimming - called SWIMMER - of which I am editor. I have received
the qhl digest each day for the last couple years, but haven't been
reading them - and at this point I need to drop off the list for a while
and relieve my e-mail box of one of the 100+ e-mails I'm receiving daily.
I may be back at some time in the future, but at this point I just
wanted to say hi, and bye. I don't imagine anyone here would really need
me for anything, but just in case, you can reach me at: editorusms.org
Best Wishes, Bill Volckening Portland, Oregon
PS: QSG in Portland never got off the ground, for same reasons
mentioned above, so if someone could remove my name as contact I'd
appreciate it. If not, no biggie - I haven't gotten any e-mails about it
lately.
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Subject: lone star quilt From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 1
The quilt that was given to my quilt guild is now on Kris' quilt
history site. Please view and let me know that you think. I added the
history of the person who made it. She was born in WVA 1860's (don't have
notes before me) and then moved to Ohio in 1881. She died in 1949. Her
name was Mary Huston (I think). Running to check out a quilt that needs
work. Thanks for any help you can give my guild. I don't have clue about
the age, whether it should be quilted and sold, etc. You can see that the
3 calicoes in it have been reproduced many times so it is is hard to use
those to date. Thanks, Lynn Lancaster Gorges, New Bern, NC
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Subject: cotton mills and corn bread From: Gary Parrett
<gparret1yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 6
With our quilt guild's 75th anniversary coming in 2011, we are working
on different angles of related history. Today, I made an excursion to the
local history department at the downtown library and perused some
microfilm, starting at the earliest newspaper on film, which happened to
be dated in the year 1834. We had a cotton mill up here: the Rochester
Cotton Manufacturing Company. "The factory is now in full operation
and will sell at their store..." Drat! It didn't give any information
on the actual mill. I'll have to dig deeper.
On another note, as there were a few posts about corn bread, here is a
recipe taken from the American Farmer, Virginia, Feb. 1, 1834, and posted
in the paper. "Take one quart of corn flour, one half spoonful of
lard, half a spoonful of salt, two spoonfuls of yeast, and warm water
sufficient to make a batter that will drop freely out of the spoon. Set it
in a pitcher or other vessel by the fire to keep moderately warm. It will
become very light in eight or ten hours, and should be baked in a Dutch
oven or spider, at the same time greasing the oven wall. A cooking stove
will answer equally well. The bread will be soft and spongy if properly
managed, and greatly superior to what is termed pone." The article
goes on to talk about good meal, that it depends on the kind of corn.
"The best I have ever seen for family use is what we call in Virginia
hominy corn. The grain is white, very ?linty,(can't make out that word)
and clear."
So, does anyone still sell hominy corn? The only hominy we have up here
is that canned stuff.
Eyes still rolling with the microfilm, Karen
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Subject: Re: cotton mills and corn bread From: HKnight453aol.com
Flint corn is best for corn meal. Stone ground flint cornmeal is used
for cornbread, grits, and johnneycakes. The last never contain eggs.
Heather
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Subject: Re: cotton mills and corn bread From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:24:31 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9
> Flint corn is best for corn meal. Stone ground flint cornmeal is
used for > cornbread, grits, and johnneycakes. The last never contain
eggs. > > Heather
What is flint corn?
Gaye
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Subject: Re Cornbread, hominy, and microfilm From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:12:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10
Karen, what an interesting recipe for cornbread. It contains yeast.
Will try it and let you know.
Hominy is white because it is soaked in lye water first. In Louisiana,
traditionally the lye water is gotten by soaking fresh oak ashes in the
water, then draining the ashes from the water. Dried corn kernels are then
soaked 24 hours or so, or until the hulls loosen. They are then either
cooked in the lime water or in fresh water.
Grits, that most delicious of grain products, is made from corn that
has been roughly cracked, then processed like hominy.
When I first tasted hominy, I hated it. But then I had it at an elderly
relative's home for breakfast and thought I was eating manna. The great
aunt had seasoned the canned hominy and cooked it over low heat with
butter. Had an almost creamy taste. Delicious with Community Dark Roast
Coffee.
Keep us posted on what you're finding.
Gaye Ingram
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Subject: Hominy p.s. From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:23:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11
I think all hominy is canned, Susan. That is the method of
preservation.
Just take it out of that can and start working with it. Real butter,
salt, black pepper. Can be added to salads too. My mother always said it
added calcium to our diets---as if our family, the owners of a Jersey cow
equal to that owned by Marjory Kinnan Rawlings, needed to add calcium to
our diets. I've seen it displayed at county fairs in the canning section.
If you can find some at a health food store, esp. one run by member of
Church of Latter Day Saints, you will likely find the best product.
gaye
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Subject: "Organic" Dry Cleaning From: Amy Korn <amyokornhotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:36:29 -0400 X-Message-Number: 12
I just spent a long weekend in NJ/NYC and noticed signs for
"Organic" Dry C leaning. Since this wonder has not yet reached
Ohio, I wonder if anyone is familiar with the process? The locals
were able to say that it is 1) expens ive 2) biodegradable and 3) involves
a chemical process that is easier on y our clothing. I'm wondering of
course if this will impact the dry cleaning of quilts. Has anyone
tried this process? Thanks for your help. Amy Korn
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Subject: 2008 QHF Honoree From: karenquiltrockisland.com Date: Tue, 31
Jul 2007 18:51:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 13
What: Induction of 38th Honoree into The Quilters Hall of Fame Sponsor:
The Quilters Hall of Fame Dates: July 17-20, 2008 Place: The Quilters Hall
of Fame located in Marion, IN CONTACTS: Becky Faulstich -
quiltershalloffamesbcglobal.net Karen B. Alexander, President 96
karequiltaol.com Office: 765-664-9333 Website: www.quiltershalloffame.net
The 2008 inductee is internationally known quiltmaker, author,
columnist and teacher Helen Kelley of Minneapolis, MN. Lectures &
workshops multipl e quilt exhibits and a vendors mall; tours of The
Quilters Hall of Fame in the restored Marie Webster. E-mail us for
complete details.
The Quilters Hall of Fame is pleased to announce the selection of Helen
Kelley of Minneapolis, MN as the 38th Honoree to be inducted into the
Quilters Hall of Fame, July 2008. Kelley has made her home in Minnesota
since 1962. Familiar with a sewing machine since her youth, Kelley taught
herself to quilt as an about-to-be bride. In 1972 a story about a family
quilt she had made from quilt blocks garnered from friends around the
world for her daughter92s wedding was featured in the Minneapolis Tribun
e. The unexpected news coverage opened opportunities to teach quilting in
th e Minneapolis community. In 1978 Kelley founded the Minnesota Quilters
and served as its founding president, a guild that today numbers over 1500
members. An international teaching career was born. Crisscrossing America
, Europe and New Zealand, Kelley soon spread the gospel of quilting
wherever she went. Today she is the author of seven books and has been a
columnist since 1983 with Quilters Newsletter Magazine, the oldest
continuously published magazine dedicated to quiltmaking and quilt
history. Her book, Every Quilt Tells a Story, is a compilation of her
column Loose Threads and has been such a success that a second book , Joy
of Quilting, followed on its heels.
Among the many honors that Kelley has received throughout her career in
quilting and service to her community are: 1995 - Artist of Distinction,
Fiber/Metal Arts of Minnesota; 1998 - Minnesota Quilter of the Year; 1999
- Renaissance Quilt was selected by a prestigious national committee of
quiltmakers and quilt historians organized by the International Quilt
Association as one of the 100 best quilts of the 20th century; 2000 -
Minnesota Textile Center92s Spun Gold Award. Kelley continues to lecture ,
teach, and exhibit her work. A 30-year retrospective of her work will be
on exhibit in Marion, Indiana, at The Quilters Hall of Fame during
Celebration 2008.
For additional information about The Quilters Hall of Fame's
Celebration, July 17-20, 2008, at which Kelley will be inducted, please
send a self-addressed stamped envelope to P.O. Box 681, Marion, IN
46952-0681 or email us at quiltershalloffamesbcglobal.net and request that
your name b e added to our mailing list.
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Subject: Organization for writing From: "Jan Masenthin" <quiltsrmesbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:17:44 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14
I'm not an author, but a retired paralegal (2 weeks & 4 days
retired -- it's awesome!), and it was my job to gather and organize huge
amounts of information that came in all kinds of forms and formats. I've
tried numerous litigation support software applications, databases, and
even one designed for libraries. I always come back to my old WordPerfect
tables. I like the combination of simplicity, flexibility, easy data
entry, and the ability to sort by any category I choose. If I worked on a
case similar to one I had previously, I simply copied the table over to
the new case. If it was totally unfamiliar to me, I could make up
everything from scratch and change it as needed. If you can't find
something that you find suitable, email me privately and I'll be glad to
share anything that might help.
Jan Masenthin
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Subject: RE: "Organic" Dry Cleaning From: "Margaret
Geiss-Mooney" <mgmooneymoonware.net> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007
18:07:42 -0700 X-Message-Number: 15
Good evening, fellow QHLers - Perchloroethylene solvent (perc) is being
phased out slowly but surely and is being replaced with four alternatives:
wet cleaning (yup! using water and detergent); carbon dioxide under
pressure (so it's a liquid); DF-2000 another hydrocarbon-based solvent;
and a silicon-based solvent (usually called Green Earth cleaning). Perc is
an extremely efficient (and so can be too harsh, causing dyebleed) solvent
and escapes containment thereby polluting water supplies. Not even going
to go over all of the human health hazards either. I've had direct
experience with the "Green Earth cleaning" and historic
textiles/costumes. I was very pleased with the results.
BUT please remember that it is not JUST about which solvent/process is
being used but also the personnel and machinery involved. All of these
processes use front-loading very large capacity machinery - that's how
they can stay profitable: by doing the process "by the pound"
versus "by the piece". Your one-of-a-kind quilt is going to be
thrown in to the machine with a whole bunch of other textiles/clothing to
equal a certain weight. All of these pieces are then run thru the cycle
which entails a lot of tumbling action. The new machines can be programmed
to just slosh but that means the personnel actually handling your quilt
will be careful and not treat it like all of the other bedspreads that are
coming thru. This usually means that the owner is operating the equipment
and not the minimum wage employees.
If your quilt/textile/costume is physically strong and in excellent
physical condition and you can develop a good personal relationship with
the owner of the business (so they will do the processing personally and
ideally will allow you to tag along in the shop/plant while they are
processing your item), then do consider using "Green Earth
cleaning" (remember that fastness testing still should be done on all
coloured elements). I don't know if I believe all of the press about
"biodegradable" and "better for the Earth", etc., etc.
I am still in the process of developing a working relationship with a
cleaner that uses the liquified carbon dioxide method.
....noticed signs for "Organic" Dry Cleaning. ...The locals
were able to say that it is 1) expensive 2) biodegradable and 3) involves
a chemical process that is easier on your clothing. I'm wondering of
course if this will impact the dry cleaning of quilts. ...
Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator
Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net
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Subject: Reopening of Lancaster Quilt and Textile Museum From:
Trishherraol.com
Lancaster, Pa. August 1, 2007. After being closed for nine
month s, the newly renovated and expanded Lancaster Quilt and Textile
Museum in downtown Lancaster, Pennsylvania is scheduled to reopen on
November 9th of this year . The renovations to the museum include expanded
exhibition space, a 1,000 square foot textile-related museum store space
and an old-fashioned ice cre am parlor. Visitors will notice an increased
street presence and a bright, welcoming appearance to the museum.
Anchoring the museum exhibitions will be the premier collection o f
Lancaster County Amish quilts, formerly owned by the Esprit Clothing
Compan y. The 82 world-class Amish quilts are rotated periodically
throughout the year. T he inaugural exhibition in the new changing
galleries will be Rags to Rugs: Pennsylvania Hooked and Handsewn
Rugs, an exhibition featuring both traditi onal and contemporary hooked
rugs continuing until December 31, 2008. Back for a second year will
be the exhibition, The National Christmas Center Presents a Lancaster
Christmas, featuring a walk through Christmas past beginning in t he 1850s
and continuing until the 1960s. This exhibition is open until
January 12, 2008. The Lancaster Quilt and Textile Museum will
be open Monday-Saturday, 9 a.m.- 5 p.m.; closed Sunday. Admission for
adults is $6 and free for children 17 an d under. Special holiday hours
may be obtained by visiting the museum website at _www.lancasterheritage.com_
(http://www.lancasterheritage.com/) . Discount rates are available
for groups of 15 or more through advance registration. Formal programs for
school groups are available upon request . Call 717-299-6440 for
more information. The Heritage Center of Lancaster County operates the
Heritage Center Museum at 5 W. King Street, and the Lancaster Quilt
& Textile Museum at 37 N. Marke t Street. Until the big
day you can still see quilts on exhibit at the Heritage Cente r Museum's
location on Penn Square in the center of Lancaster City. The exhibit is
"Stars Over Pennsylvania." Admission is free and the museum is o
pen every day but Sunday. Trish Herr
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Subject: summer reading revisited From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:26:33 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1
The Blood of Flowers by Anita Amirrezvani is a novel about women and
carpet making in 17th century Iran. Cinda on the Eastern Shore
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Subject: BLANKET STATEMENT notices due From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:04:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1
Please send information about upcoming events of interest to AQSG
members to my email address. Label such information "For BLANKET
STATEMENTS," so it will not get mixed up with personal emails.
I will acknowledge receipt of all materials sent to me. So if you send
me something and do not receive an acknowledgement, please send it again.
We begin work on the fall issue of the newsletter Monday.
All of us who work with BLANKET STATEMENTS appreciate members' efforts
to keep it up to date and to make it an important agent for the
dissemination of new information and research about quilts and quilt
history.
We welcome and value suggestions for ways to improve BLANKET
STATEMENTS.
We look forward to seeing many of you at the informational meeting
sponsored by the Board and chaired by Lucinda Cawley for all who wish to
know more about presenting research in AQSG publications.
Thanks to all who have helped us fulfill the mission of the newsletter.
Gaye Ingram, Editor BLANKET STATEMENTS
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Subject: meeting From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:59:27 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2
Just a reminder that the Eastern Shore Quilt Study Group will meet on
Wednesday, August 22 from 1 to 4 p.m. at the Caroline County Public
Library in Denton, MD. The theme is "orange." For lunch we're
going to try the new restaurant, Emerson House, just across the street
from the library at noon. New members are always welcome. Contact me for
more information. Cinda
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Subject: HELP! 1864 Sanitary Commission Quilt Discovery From: Donald
Beld
I was contacted yesterday by a lady who has inherited what appears to
me (I have seen around 20 photos of the quilt) to be an authentic 1864
Sanitary Commission Quilt.
It is signed and dated by the makers, with their group name, location,
patriotic and religious verses and contains 54 blocks. It is stamped on
the back of the quilt "Sanitary Commission" and appears to have
been made as individual potholder type blocks sewn together with a one
inch pink sashing. The quilt was made in Massachussetts.
The woman who owns it wants it appraised for estate purposes. I am not
willing to share her name or location or post a photo of the quilt.
But I feel this is a major, historical find.
What I need help with is where to refer her for an appropriate
appraisal and authentication. This quilt desparately needs to be in a
museum and I feel it is a national treasure.
Please help. Best, Don
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Subject: Re: HELP! 1864 Sanitary Commission Quilt Discovery From:
"Lynne Z. Bassett" <lzbassettcomcast.net> Date: Fri, 3 Aug
2007 12:40:19 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4
Well, Don, if the quilt is from Massachusetts, clearly it needs to come
here! I'll contact you privately about getting this quilt appraised, and
possibly donated to a Massachusetts museum.
Best, Lynne
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Subject: good stuff From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:20:39 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5
If you don't get the International Quilt Study Center's Quilt of the
Month email you might not know about what a great online resource it is.
Go to the homepage, click on "online resources" and then on
"podcast and
videos." Among other goodies there's a talk by Merikay Waldvogel
on the Sears Quuilt Contest that adds lots of juicy details to the story
of Margaret Rogers Cadden and info on the judges that is very interesting.
Shame on you Mary McElwain! Cinda on the Eastern Shore
http://www.quiltstudy.org/index.html
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Subject: PA From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:30:09 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6
Is anybody documenting quilts made in the Philadelphia area? Cinda on
the Eastern Shore
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Subject: RE: PA From: "Candace Perry" <candaceschwenkfelder.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:28:23 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7
If they are no one's announced it...when you say Philadelphia, Cinda,
do you mean the city, or the Delaware Valley? Candace Perry
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Subject: RE: PA From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:02:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8
Hi Candace, I mean the whole DE Valley area. Great news about Chester
County. Cinda
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Subject: RE: Writing programs From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com
> It has become extremely difficult to cite properly now - no matter
what info I get from websites, particularly when they are quoting someone
els e's writing, such as a newspaper article - the "formula" for
citing never actually fits. Teddy, This may make you feel better: a
colleague came to me several years ago, with a copy of the APA
Manual (for those who don't know, APA style is 'TH E' official style of
citations in the social sciences). She had me read t he rule on a
particular example, then showed me an example they gave on a nother
page....the second example being wrong, according to their rule! I checked
in my previous edition of the APA manual, and sure enough, the m istake
was in the previous edition, too. Talk about the right hand not kn
owing... I actually got through the majority of my grad school classes
before any professor called me on my mis-use of APA style citations,
which I guess g oes to show how few people CARE. <G>
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Subject: Mass 1864 Sanitary Commission Quilt From: Donald Beld <donbeldpacbell.net>
Thanks everyone for your responses. At this time, the owner of the
quilt has gotten in contact with Lynne Bassett who is completing the Mass.
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Subject: Dutch Quilts needed From: "mary voss" <maryjvosssbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:28:15 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1
BlankLibby Capps of Cincinnati is looking for a few antique Dutch
Quilts for an exhibit on the Netherlands Oct. 5-7, 2007 If anyone can
help her out - she is willing to pay shipping etc. please contact her
at ebcappscinci.rr.com
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Subject: Re: Dating Club From: MargaretFaheyaol.com Date: Sat, 4 Aug
2007 17:38:12 EDT X-Message-Number: 2
Cinda wrote:
" We got some tips on using scrap booking supplies to store blocks
and fabric."
Would you share the tips on using scrap booking supplies to store
blocks, please.? We have some from late '30's and 40's which need to be
stored differently. Thanks Cinda.
Margaret Fahey
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Subject: writing citations From: "Kimberly Wulfert, PhD" <quiltdatingjetlink.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 09:17:41 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3
Teddy and Jocelyn,
Your experience is my experience. Last century the APA style for psych
was easy and always the same format. One book was all you needed to check.
So the history (Chicago style usually) citation variations were a total
surprise to me. What I have done in response is follow the manner used by
the publication I am writing for and not follow the manner in the Chicago
style book. Also the editorial guidelines from the publication make
suggestions if they are sticklers on aspects, or they tell the writer to
read past issues for direction. In unusual situations the editors have
been helpful when asked directly.
The book I have found useful which includes citing websites is "A
Manual for Writers of Research Papers, Theses, and Dissertations, Chicago
Style for Students and Researchers" 7th edition, which is the newest.
The original author is Kate L. Turabian. It's revised by the U of Chicago
Press, so sticks to the style but it is easier to find what you need then
the big book is.
It is precisely this reason, the variety of citation styles that has
kept me from using software for conversion. I was hoping to hear there is
a way around this from someone on this list or that there are actually
fewer variations than it seems, so that a combo software could be used.
It's easy however to memorize the style variation for common citations in
each paper as it proceeds since there are so many opportunities in each
paper. (LOL)
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Subject: Blank emails From: JLHfwaol.com Date:
Good morning, Am I the only one on the list who has received multiple
blank messages the past few days? This has not occured with other lists I
belong to. Kris, can you tell what might be going on? Janet Henderson
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Subject: RE: Blank emails & IIQSG From: "Karan Flanscha"
<SadieRosecfu.net> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 12:12:10 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
I often read my e-mail via webmail when I am at work or away from home.
I have received several e-mails that are 'empty' when I open them via
webmail... but later when I download them & read on my home computer,
there is a message there. I have no idea what the reason for this is...
but thought it might worth mentioning. The Iowa-Illinois Quilt Study Group
met in Kalona yesterday, what a treat! We saw wonderful Amish and English
(non-Amish) crib & doll quilts. Plus the excellent exhibit of red and
white, blue and white, and red, white and blue quilts in Marilyn's
"Patriotic" quilts exhibit. Karan from soggy Iowa
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Subject: A True Story! From: "Greta VanDenBerg" <maquilterepix.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:02:43 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7
Since March I have volunteered a number of times to demonstrate
quilting at Winterthur during their "Quilts in a Material World
" exhibit. Every other time I have been seated at a table in the
Exhibit Area where THE QUILTS are displayed - which more than one visitor
has pointed out makes those of us volunteering museum ehxibits.
Today two of us were located in the Gallery area downstairs where
quilts from area guilds have been displayed throughout the show. As is
customary we had samples of completed quilts laid out on the table in
front of us while we worked on hand quilting our respective current
projects.
Mid afternoon a gentleman came up and asked me, "Are there any
Gee's Bend quilts in the quilt exhibit up stairs?"
As I struggled to maintain my composure I responded simply, "No,
but the quilts in this exhibit are extraordinary."
Pointing to the guild quilts hanging overhead he then asked me,
"Are any of these quilts Gee's Bend quilts?"
I again had to disappoint him by answering, "No, and before you
ask none of the ones on the table in front of me are either. If you are
really interested in seeing some Gee's Bend quilts you can visit the
current travelling exhibit at The Walters Art Museum in Baltimore."
He walked away in dismay and I don't think he ever went to see the
quilts upstairs. His loss!!!
Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle Hoping for rain in Lancaster, PA!
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Subject: Sanitary Commission quilts From: <suereichcharter.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:32:10 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10
Donald, Check out the Connecticut documentation book "Quilts and
Quiltmakers Covering Connecticut." There are two Sanitary Commission
quilts on pages 76 and 77 with excellent documentation. The quilt made for
the Tarrytown Fair is in very good condition. It is now in the collection
of the Tarrytown Historical Society. The quilt made by the Ladies
Benevolent Society of the Second Baptist Church of New London, Connecticut
was not in great condition, but it photographed well for the book. The
similarities between the two quilts are amazing. One is dated 1864 and the
other 1867. Benevolent societies in New England were donating quilts to
the Sanitary Commission for quite some time after the Civil War ended. I
would be happy to put you in touch with the person who did most of the
historical research for those quilts, if you would like. sue reich
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Subject: Re: help for Outlook users re blank emails From:
"Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007
22:10:01 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1
Also, if you go in the main screen, click on Tools, Then Options,
you'll have a new menu. You'll want to click the tab marked Send. At the
bottom of the resulting box you can chose to have all email sent as text
rather than HTML.
Alan
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Subject: Looking for oldest quilt club/guild From: "Beth
Davis" <bethdan533frontiernet.net>
Hello everyone, I am a member of the Genesee Valley Quilt Club of
Rochester, NY. We are coming up on our 75-year anniversary and we are
looking into the history of the club. One of the issues is that we claim
to be the "Oldest continuously meeting quilt club in New York
State". We began meeting in January 1936. But there is also the
notion that we may be the oldest in the U.S. There was an article in QNM
in October 2005, which states that the Friendly Circle Club of Ohio has
been meeting continuously since 1917. This would mean that our information
is not true. So we are wondering if there is any older club/guilds/socials
that have records that would indicate that they are the oldest?
Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Beth Davis AQS Certified
Appraiser of Quilted Textiles/Quilt Historian
bethdan533frontiernet.net
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Subject: Century of Progress - NQR From: Mary Persyn <mary.persynvalpo.edu>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:51:15 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3
For those of you interested in the Chicago's World Fair of 1933 there
is an article in today's issue of the local newspaper about the World's
Fair Houses that were moved to Beverly Shores Indiana when the fair was
over.
http://www.nwi.com/
http://nwi.com/articles/2007/08/06/news/top_news/doc67b0941abe04ac0e8625732f00086d30.txt
Mary
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Subject: Re: PA From: Carolyn K Ducey <cduceyunlnotes.unl.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:55:34 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4
Cinda, I'm researching a small group of quilts made in the Delaware Bay
area. I'm just beginning my research now!
Carolyn Ducey Curator of Collections International Quilt Study Center
HE 234, University of Nebraska Lincoln, NE 68583-0838 402/472-6301
cducey1unl.edu
Is anybody documenting quilts made in the Philadelphia area? Cinda on
the Eastern Shore
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Subject: Re: writing citations From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com
Kimberly, I've heard many people in my field praise EndNotes; I don't
know if it's just for APA or if it includes other styles, though.
Jocelyn
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Subject: Article About Texas Quilts From: "Stephanie
Hanson"
Hi All, Thought you might be interested in an article one of my
friends at work brought me this morning. The very nice article is
about Marcia Kaylakie's new book Texas Quilts and Quilters: A Lone
Star Legacy. It's in the Texas Co-op Power magazine that goes out to
those using co-op electric services. I went to the website to order
a back copy, and here's a Texas treat---the magazine is also in PDF
form right on the site: http://www.tex as-ec.org/publications/documents/tcp0807.pdf
. Enjoy, Stephanie
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Subject: Thanks for sending the www site From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:04:38 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7
Stephanie,
What a terrific magazine. And put out by a co-op!
You Texans do things well.
gaye
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Subject: Re: PA From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:27:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8
Hi Carolyn, Are these quilts in the IQSC collection? Delaware, PA, New
Jersey or all three? I would love to see a Delaware Valley documentation
project. Cinda
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Subject: quilt length From: Laura Robins-Morris <lrobinsscharp.org>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:03:01 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9
Excuse me if this is a silly question, but I did not grow up with
quilts. For those of you who sleep under quilts (both old and new), are
they usually long enough to tuck in at the foot of the bed, or most often
not tucked in? I have always assumed not (based on sizes I've noticed in
books), but
just want to be sure. Thanks. Laura
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Subject: Re: Thanks for sending the www site From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:05:40 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10
For those reading the Texas Co-Op for article on Marcia Kaylakie's new
book, you might also want to check out the article on red hair. I was
dismayed to see the prediction that it would be virtually extinct by 2010.
My father was one of seven red-headed sons of a red-headed father, and
everyone was delighted when my first child turned out to have the most
gorgeous auburn hair I've ever seen. Not the freckle-faced kind of red
hair. One of my sister's sons had the freckled face to go with the hair
and now has a daughter who also has both. I don't think I was ever in a
elementary school class that had fewer than three red heads.
Oh, what is the world coming to?!
SOUTHERN LIVING should issue an alarm. Maybe the red heads of
childbearing age across the South would take more care when choosing
suitable spouses.
Bewildered, gaye
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Subject: Re: quilt length From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:44:38 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11
Laura wrote:
> For those of you who sleep under quilts (both old and new), are
they > usually long enough to tuck in at the foot of the bed, or most
often not > tucked in?
Laura, I don't know there is a standard practice. Maybe every household
is idiosyncratic. Good question!
In my family quilts not made for use as a coverlet were not tucked in
at bottom. I don't tuck quilts in at the foot of beds. The quilt hangs to
the bottom of the mattress, though.
Gaye
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Subject: Re: Tucking in quilts From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:57:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 14
There is a hazard to tucking quilts in, especially on old fashioned
beds...the quilt can get caught in bedsprings and tear....
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Subject: Re: quilt length From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:18:41 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1
I don;t think there is a hard and fast rule on this. I've been doing
the vintage thing for about 20 years and have never heard of it. Some
people tuck and other do not. I'm of the tuckless variety. The sheet is
tucked to keep the bed neat and the quilts are draped in place. I can tell
you that a lot of quilts suffer from tucking wear. One or both ends will
show waer from being tucked, sometimes tears from metal bed springs.
Alan
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Subject: have to tell you From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:54:49 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2
I have got to tell you about this afternoon's adventure. You;ll get as
quivery as I am.
I went to the City to have lunch with a friend of mine. This was the
first time we spent just he and I. Morris and I are both artists so I
viewed his watercolors. I also brought my portfolio and he saw my quilts
in person. I found out the he was a professional pianist once upon a time.
He has a glorious hand-painted walnut grand piano. He played, and is
extremely good. Surprise #1. Surprise #2 came in his collection. It turns
out that he used to deal in antiques and vintage quilts. He told about one
he sold, for $3000. It was a c. 1840 quilt using vegetable dyes. It must
have been marvelous because he told me that the dyes were ruining the
fabric, yet he sold it for that much. He did pull one out, a RWB Lonestar.
12 stitches per inch, feather wreaths in the corners. I placed it at 1870,
possibly 1860. Which is hard to do as it is in solids. I listen to my gut
in these instances.
Then we got to his fabric. Wheeeeee! He has quite a collection. Bobbin
lace, 20's tie dye, a fabulous piano scarf, all c. 1900. Then he pulled
out the old stuff. I was shocked. Fabrics from all over the world anywhere
from 200 - 500 years old. Some of it used to be in a museum and was in
their wrappings. China, Turkey, etc. I was in heaven. One Asian piece we
had no idea of the country of origin. He guessed Tibetan. What was amazing
that the back was almost identical to the front. Oh, I'm not sure the name
of the toe of work. This was only the second time I've seen one. Huge
embroidered piece from maybe Afghanistan. This piece had to be 6'x6'.
Completely embroidered in what appears to be 50 weight thread. When I say
completely embroidered I mean just that. Not a surface is undecorated.
What's worse, the motifs were appliquéd on before being embroidered. I
saw no reason for the appliqué other than as a guide, since the appliqué
is not visible from the front. I should return to the shop I saw the first
one in because the owner had asked me if I was interested in restoring it.
He also pulled out a c.1800 crewel work picture of a pair of hunters at
rest in the wood with the hounds at their feet. There was a sampler, dated
1839, that had a lot of fading, but was still desirable.
BUT.
He also brought out three pieces that floored me. I found it incredible
that they were even in his home. These were from the museum collection.
First was a Coptic textile, most of the original piece. It had four
same motifs, a red pointed oval, flanked by what looked like
paisley-shaped leaves. The floral sections had been worked separately and
then sewn into openings in the ground. The leaves and the ground were an
off white.
Probably 800-1000 years old.
He also has two fragments of Mesoamerican textiles!! These are the
things you never see outside of a book or the museum. 1000 years old. He
even allowed me to <GASP> touch the three. My fingertips are still
tingling! You never have the opportunity to touch them with your bare
hands. Rest assure I barely touched them. I was able to lift the one and
do something I've never done. Look at the back of the Mesoamerican work. I
got to see how they accomplished the work. Lots of threads running across
the back. Neatness obviously wasn;t important <g>. But wow. To get
to see this so up close and personal.
Of course, I'm going to have to go back and visit his collection!
Blessed be, Alan
Alan R. Kelchner Mixed Media/Textile Artist http://alanrkelchner.com
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Subject: Re: have to tell you From: KathrynHerrmannaol.com Date: Tue, 7
Aug 2007 06:02:47 EDT X-Message-Number: 3
Alan, How cool is that? It's like you stumbled upon a textile
historians dream! Be nice to this guy so you can go back. Next time, take
a camera and post to us. We'd love to see all of it-even the little scraps
of fabric.
Have a great day. Again.
-Kathryn Hendersonville, NC
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Subject: Re: quilt length From: Barbara Burnham <barbaraburnhamyahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 4
My preference is for a quilt to hang far enough down to cover the
mattress sides, but allow a dust ruffle to show. One quilt that I enjoy
using, the bottom corners touch the floor and become a tripping hazard. So
I gently slip just the corner tip under the mattress; probably
"incorrect" but safe. An antique or precious handmade quilt
would not be "used" in my house, except for very special guests
who would understand that privilege. Barbara Burnham
Laura Robins-Morris <lrobinsscharp.org> wrote: For those of you
who sleep under quilts (both old and new), are they usually long enough to
tuck in at the foot of the bed, or most often not tucked in? Thanks. Laura
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Subject: quilt guild records From: "Steve & Jean Loken"
<sandjlokenatt.net> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:00:26 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5
Beth, in the book, Minnesota Quilts; Making Connections... a guild that
has been meeting since 1924 is documented. It meets in the Stillwater, MN
area. Originally called "Helping Hands Quilters" they still have
minutes from all the meetings from the past. It's on p. 91. Jean in MN
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Subject: Re: quilt guild records From: "Beth Davis"
<bethdan533frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:59:42 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
Jean, Wow-thank you for this information. This is exactly what I am
looking for. I'll check out my copy of the Minnesota book. See-without the
QHL, there would be no way to check even a fraction of guilds in the U.S.
to determine who are the earliest ones. Now I have three that were
established in 1920’s (or earlier). Funny thing that I am finding that
they are in the Mid-West or Western region!!
Thank you again! Beth
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Subject: laundry information From: "Andi"
<andi0613iowatelecom.net> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:15:35 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
I have no affiliation with the following, just thought it would be of
interest.
On page 51 of the September 2007 issue of Quilters Newsletter is a
brief description of LaundryPure System, which says this is a
"green" alternative to soap and cleaning agents for laundry. It
uses oxidation and silver ion. It is made by EcoQuest International,
www.ecoquestintl.com.
That said, at Saturday's IIQSG meeting, Jennifer Perkins shared two
examples of what can happen when cleaning vintage fabrics. She had two
original four patches of 19th century browns. Then she had one each of the
same blocks, washed. One was cleaned with OxyClean and was very faded. The
other was cleaned with only water, and it was almost transparent! Her
message was to be very careful about cleaning browns, but my thought was,
better know what's in your water; most of it has too much chlorine to be
safe for our purposes. The system described above has an optional unit
that removes chemicals from the water source.
I would be happy to post photos comparing these blocks, but when I have
tried to use the eBoard before, I can't figure out how to actually paste
or insert the photo; the edit mode doesn't say how to do it. It's probably
too simple.
Andi in Keota, Iowa
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Subject: Oldest Quilt Guild From: Judy Knorr <jknorroptonline.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:37:29 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9
Beth, Although I now live in NY I was born and raised in southeastern
Ohio in the town where the Friendly Circle Club is located When the
article about the club was in QNM I showed it to my mother who was very
interested. She recognized many members from the older pictures and
remembers the club from her earliest memories. My mother did not belong to
to the club as she wasn't a quilter. (She made one quilt and pieced one
top!) I have some friends from high school who belong to the club now and
I occasionally meet them at Quilt Shows in PA. I am sure the age of their
club is accurate. Judy Knorr
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Subject: Re: have to tell you From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:02:17 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10
I've emailed mMorris to thank him for lunch and another visit is in the
works. And yes, I will take my camera next time.
Alan
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Subject: Re: citation styles From: laurel <laurelkalmiaresearch.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:51:58 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11
Here are useful guidelines for citing internet sources:
For MLA style: http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/online/cite5.html#3 For
Chicago style: http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/online/cite7.html
Laurel Horton
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Subject: Old quilt groups From: "Jan Masenthin" <quiltsrmesbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:01:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12
In my haste to catch up on and clean up my email, I deleted the recent
QHL Digest containing a request/search for a quilt group older than 75
years. Please check out this link. It isn't clear how old this group is,
but further research might reveal that it's older than 75. Good luck, and
congratulations to the oldest group, whoever they may be. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20060729/ai_n16646266
If you need some leg work to get more information, please let me know.
Jan Masenthin
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Subject: Painter palampore From: Lloyd E Miller <lemillernycap.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:21:44 -0400 X-Message-Number: 13
Several days ago I posted a question about a painted top I have. It
was never finished and I am not sure it is really old. I had requests
to post pictures on the E-Board, which didn't happen in a hurry with
the heat, but finally, with the help of Kris and my husband, I think
they are there in the general section. It is large, 7.5 feet by 8 feet.
As you can see in the detail pictures, it is rather crudely painted in
some areas. None the less, someone put a lot of work into
this. Any further comments any of you have about it would be most
welcome. It is rather a mystery piece.
Linda Miller
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Subject: Re: Painter palampore From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 06:04:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1
Just a quick note - to get to the Gallery, it's easiest to go to
http://www.quilthistory.com and click on Gallery on the left hand side.
Linda's quilt is on the first page. Here is a shortcut: http://tinyurl.com/37bgxy
Kris
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Subject: Painter palampore From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com> D
That is absolutely gorgeous. Is fabric linen?? Definitely linen
textured from the closeup which is why I ask.. Is this a lost art or are
modern quilt artists recreating this form?? OK, you can tell I'm not a
quilt historian; always the fiber prune in search of warp ends. :-) .
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Subject: Re: Painter palampore From: "Vivien Sayre" <vsayrenesa.com>
Hi Kris, I wanted to give you an update on the Appraisers list. Philip
Jerauld has retired from appraising. Also, my address and phone
number have changed. It is now: 9 Maple Lane, Marshfield, MA 02050.
(781) 834-1261. Hope all is well with you and your family.
Thanks, Vivien
________________________________
From: Kris Driessen [mailto:krisdriessenyahoo.com] Sent: Wed 8/8/2007
9:04 AM To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] Re: Painter palampore
Just a quick note - to get to the Gallery, it's easiest to go to
http://www.quilthistory.com <http://www.quilthistory.com/> and click
on Gallery on the left hand side. Linda's quilt is on the first
page. Here is a shortcut: http://tinyurl.com/37bgxy
Kris
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Subject: Lecture on Gees Bend Quilts From: "Linda Eaton" <LEatonwinterthur.org>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:34:29 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4
Join us at Winterthur on Saturday, August 11 at 3pm for a lecture by
Dr. Bernard Herman, Chair and Rosenberg Professor of Art History,
University of Delaware, on the Quilts of Gees Bend. Free for members, for
non-members the lecture is included with admission ticket. (And please
feel free to ask Bernie about the recent lawsuits)
PS. And I am so glad that many of you are finally receiving
Montgomery's Textiles in America - the delay was due to problems with a
few of the photographs, and the publishers felt it was important to get
them right.
Linda Eaton Curator of Textiles Winterthur Museum
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Subject: Re: Old quilt groups From: "Beth Davis"
<bethdan533frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:43:26 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5
Hello Jan, Thank you for sending the information for the Presbyterian
Church in Dwight, KS. According to the article, they have been meeting
officially since 1955, so that means it's been at least 52 years. They
were actually quilting before that, but there are no records.
So far what I have found is that the First United Methodist Church, has
been meeting in Burlington, Iowa since 1880. This is whooping 127 years!
This changes things for the ‘Friendly Circle Club’ from southeastern
Ohio, who was thought to hold the record for being the oldest quilting bee
in America. They have been meeting continuously since 1917 (a respectable
90 years) There is the Green Hill Kensington group, which was organized in
Nebraska on July 15, 1915 (92 years!) And the Helping Hands Quilters have
been meeting since 1924 in Stillwater, Minnesota (83 years) Then there is
the ‘Skip-A-Week Quilt Club’ (what a charming name!), which began in
1921; they claim to be the oldest documented club in Oregon. (86 years)
And how about the Canberra Quilters Inc., which is the oldest patchwork
group in Australia. Originally Margaret Rolfe and some friends, known as
“The Patchwork Group”, founded it in 1976.
AMAZING! I am finding the information of great interest. Most of the
clubs and guilds appear to be in the mid-west and west. I am a little
surprised that I have not seen anything from the east coast. Just seems
that there would be the oldest would be located in this area, doesn’t
it? I do hope that I will be able to say that Genesee Valley Quilt Club is
the oldest in New York state.
I will keep looking for more information! Regards, Beth Davis
RE: In my haste to catch up on and clean up my email, I deleted the
recent QHL Digest containing a request/search for a quilt group older than
75 years. Please check out this link. If you need some legwork to get more
information, please let me know. Jan Masenthin
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Subject: Re: Painter palampore From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:37:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6
Dear Vivien,
Did you receive my note re possible article in BLANKET STATEMENTS?
If so, are you interested?
Hope summer is fresh and cool in Mass. Gaye Ingram
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Subject: faded fabric photos up From: "Andi"
<andi0613iowatelecom.net> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:25:24 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
Thanks to Joan for her advice, photos of fabrics faded by cleaning are
posted in the General section of the eBoard: http://www1.eboard.com/eboard/servlet/
Although my camera flash washes out the center of the water cleaned
sample, it really doesn't make that much difference in how much dye was
removed with water alone. Look at the bottom edge of the photo.
Andi in Keota, Iowa
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Subject: Montgomery book & Amazon From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:03:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8
My copy of Montgomery arrived today from Amazon.
I thought I would pass this along in the event others were having the
problem I had.
I had been told copies would not be available until fall. Promised
shipping day had been deferred yet again.
Someone on this list noted that she had complained about this policy,
since B&N was shipping their copies. Her complaint had gotten her
order filled promptly.
Prompted by this post, I contacted Amazon and at first got a re-run of
previous answer. I wrote back citing the list member's experience and
rec'd a letter of apology and a promise of my copy in this week's mail.
And that is what happened.
Gaye
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Subject: Re: quilt length From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com
>For those of you who sleep under quilts (both old and new), are
they
>usually long enough to tuck in at the foot of the bed, or most
often not
>tucked in? Laura, One of my pet peeves! :) As a kid, quilts were
tucked in, but they weren't long enough to tuck und er and still reach up
to my ears AND give plenty of space for my toes. So I developed a
life-long adversion to having the covers tucked in at the bottom of
the bed. I still just drape the covers over the foot of the bed , like a
comforter, even if the blanket or quilt is plenty long to be tuc ked in.
:) I think that these days, it's probably more customary to make the quilt
l ong enough to tuck, but I grew up sleeping under Depression-era quilts,
a nd fabric was too precious to waste making luxuriously long and wide
quil ts. :)
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Subject: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:03:50 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11
As some of you know, I am interested in the body of quilts that use the
colors "teal" blue/oxblood/cheddar. North Carolina abound with
examples, an d through genealogy and quilt provenance, I have been able to
establish a migration pattern for these quilts which seems to begin in NC
and move west , either through Nashville to Arkansas and across northwest
Louisiana to Texa s or through Georgia and west along a well-established
migration trail. They appear to have dwindled in Mississippi and
Louisiana, once settlers became so mobile because of forestry industry.
NC, TN, and Tx are replete with examples.
Most seem to have been made in the last quarter--indeed, the last 15
years--of the nineteenth century. Earlier and many later examples exist,
however. Typically it is used in fairly large appliquE9 patterns, four-squar
e quilts, though I have three fine examples in which it is used in pieced
patterns.
Here are my questions:
First, does anyone know a mill source for this color blue-green that
for lack of a more accurate term, I have called "teal"? Late
nineteenth century . Mill records? Mill names? Sources of these materials?
Anything that would help me trace this rascal color down?
Second, does anyone know the name for the color being referred to? It
was quite popular in the arts and crafts era, was used earlier in the
South in wall stencils. It is similar to the color once found on shutters
and doors in South Louisiana and New Orleans, especially after that color
had aged over time.
A friend who is a restoration architect at Tulane and in New Orleans
suggested "Egyptian Blue" and "Indigo" as two color
names that might be wha t I was looking for.
Last night Karen Flansca called to my attention a paint color described
in SOUTHERN LIVING as "Haint Blue." (p. 148 August issue) The
colorway runs from bright to dark, with the color I'm talking about being
more toward the dark end. Since it is reproduced in magazine, I can't be
sure of the trueness of the colors, of course.
The article claims this paint was used on porches and perhaps doors in
Charleston and Low Country area to keep away the "haints." Any
South Carolinian know of that legend? Attributed to African origins.
I would appreciate any information on this entire issue.
It is SO August in Louisiana right now---light has changed to the color
Faulkner described in his novel "Light in August," tree frogs
are screeching, locusts molting an making a lot of whiney noise, blue hazy
mornings, and HOT, Gaye
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Subject: Re subject-verb agreement in post From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:07:40 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12
I just sent a post to list that had at least three errors in
subject-verb agreement in first three lines. I know better and apologize.
I made mistake of putting message through grammar and spelling check and
then authorized recommended changes without thinking. Those prepositional
phrases following nouns must confuse my system. Apologies.
Gaye Ingram
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Subject: Re: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: "Carroll" <rl.carrollverizon.net>
"Second, does anyone know the name for the color being referred
to? "
Gaye, Some of the dye books from this period call this hue
"Brilliant Green". Evidently naming it after the dye itself.
I have noticed (in the old dye books) that if a hue is called blue
there will be no hint of yellow in it, as is the case with this
"teal" dye. Therefore, it's most likely any name referring to
this color will be some version of green, rather than blue (Haint Blue,
Egyptian Blue).
Also IMHO, any "fashion" name you find would be one of many
others, depending on the whims of the fashion industry and would change
over the years.
The dyes were commercial synthetic dyes and would have been available
to all dyers/printers of the time.
Laurette Carroll Southern California
Look to the Future with Hope
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Subject: RE: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle"
Gaye,
Haint typically refers to ghosts or spirits and the blue referred to
is to ward them off and the shades of 'blue' used on porches can
vary greatly. I have run across the term numerous times while doing
research for renovating old houses. What can be referred as Haint
Blue varies considerably. I have heard it described as being,
"From periwinkle and turquoise to more mellow shades the color
of the sky." In the Savannah it is described as, "This
blue/green color, or Haint Blue, is not only aesthetically pleasing
but has an important purpose, and that is to ward off evil
spirits."
I have heard the stories that Haint Blue paint was used by
African Slaves to secure entrances to their houses from evil
spirits. According to the Geechee/Gulla culture of the Lowcountry,
"the blue/green color of Haint Blue represents water which, it
is believed, spirits can not pass over."
There are numerous other tales including Appalachian folk lore
and others about the blue on porches and at least as many different
versions of the color.
I suspect the term 'Haint Blue' refers more to the idea of a blue used
architecturally for old superstitious reasons and I am sure information
about fabrics available from the time will produce better results.
Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle In sweltering Lancaster, PA.
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Subject: Painted Palampore From: Lloyd E Miller <lemillernycap.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:24:28 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1
Joan's question made me pause, because the fabric does have a nice
hand, but checking it under the microscope, which I should have done
before, confirms it's cotton.
Linda Miller
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Subject: wet wool rugs From: "Andi"
<andi0613iowatelecom.net> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:33:55 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2
I hope this isn't too far off to ask about but it is sort of
wet-cleaning-of-textiles related: we got an inch of water in our basement
last night when it rained three inches in an hour (after a pretty wet
spring and summer). This is my first ever wet basement event, so I could
use any advice. Three rugs are soaked. None of them are particularly
valuable, but they are suitable for and useful in the basement, so I'd
like to keep them if possible. All are area rugs. One is some sort of
1970s synthetic. The other two are wool dhurries that were grand in their
day but had too many puppies living with them over the years to be main
floor worthy now.
The water is gone, we have fans running in this windowless space and
the exterior door is open. The dhurries are stacked on each other. I
assume separating them is the thing to do and that when they are drier, we
can drape them over the fence outside for drying/airing, hope there's not
much smell and bring them back inside with more fanning if necessary. DH
assumes they will have to be dry cleaned (germs and such) and we should
not bother with drying them out. Suggestions? As I'm on digest, I won't
get any replies until tomorrow unless you email me directly, which I'd
appreciate. andi0613iowatelecom.net
Andi in Keota, Iowa
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Subject: Re: faded fabric photos up From: Judy Schwender
<sister3603yahoo.com>
Hi all, Andi and Kris, would you mind if I saved these images to show
to folks who want to wash their quilts? I receive a number of inquiries
about this here at the museum and, although I always quote Xena's
"Lay down until the feeling goes away" maxim, some folks just
need to SEE proof. Judy Schwender Museum of the American Quilter's Society
Paducah, KY
Andi <andi0613iowatelecom.net> wrote: Thanks to Joan for her
advice, photos of fabrics faded by cleaning are posted in the General
section of the eBoard: http://www1.eboard.com/eboard/servlet/ Although my
camera flash washes out the center of the water cleaned sample, it really
doesn't make that much difference in how much dye was removed with water
alone. Look at the bottom edge of the photo.
Andi in Keota, Iowa
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Subject: Palampore From: Polly Greene <pjgreeneeastlink.ca> Date:
Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:43:43 -0300 X-Message-Number: 4
From the picture it is exactly like an Indian bedspread I bought years
ago (maybe 30) even to the colors. It is on a cotton that at first glance
looks like natural colored linen. My bedspread, now much faded, has the
handpainted look. Polly in Nova Scotia
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Subject: Re: Painted Palampore From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com>
Linda and Polly -- Thanx so much for clarifying fiber content. Great
weave construction which complements the artistry. Lucky you all who own
something similar.
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Subject: new top From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:30:31 -0700 X-Message-Number: 6
I got a top in the mail yesterday. Got it off of eBay. I had purchased
it for one of the Timespan quilts. The pick made it look rather plain, and
I'd forgotten what it looked like. I opened it up and was very surprised.
The thing is gorgeous! I am NOT taking this one apart. It has nine
patches. The nine patches are set as a second nine patch the center patch
is a small square and the bars between are muslin. The sashing is killer.
It's the really cool yellow and purple plaid, set on point. Very pretty
and a good addition to my collection. I'm liking this because I haven't
had a new acquisition in 2 years.
Blessed be, Alan
Alan R. Kelchner Mixed Media/Textile Artist http://alanrkelchner.com
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Subject: seeking quilts From: Judy Schwender
<sister3603yahoo.com> D
Hi all, I am looking for 1950s era cowboy-themed quilts. If you have
such a quilt- condition is not a factor-would you please email me
off-list? Thank you. Judy Schwender Paducah, KY
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Subject: Re: new top From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:20:18 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8
Congrats on the "new kid". . . I mean it. I totally identify
with being pleased when a new piece of patchwork comes to "live"
in my small collection. . .and it doesn't happen often for me these days,
either.
Stephanie Higgins www.stephaniewhitson.com
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Subject: Knots From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:47:46 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9
Today I picked up a c. 1930 Sunbonnet Sue/Overall Bill quilt that
needed minor restoration. It was very nicely appliqued and heavily quilted
with the Baptist fan design. It was all done so nicely that I was
surprised to see that all the quilter's knots were on the top of the
quilt. So that makes me wonder, were we always taught to hide our knots in
the quilt sandwich? If not, when did we decide to hide the knot? I would
think a utilitarian quilt would have plenty of visible knots. Why take the
time to bury them?
Can anyone give me some answers?
Thanks and best regards, Sharron.......... ...in it-couldn't-be-hotter
Spring, TX (a northern surburb of Houston)
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Subject: Re: quilt length From: "Kay Sorensen" <Kaykaysorensen.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:21:40 -0400 X-Message-Number: 10
I do NOT tuck in quilts - new or antique. It puts too much stress on
them. Quiltingly, Kay Sorensen
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Subject: RE: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: "Miller, Maretta
K" <millermkuww.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:11:37 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
Gaye,
Here are a couple articles...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId3D5645263
http://searchwarp.com/swa113136.htm
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Subject: Re: faded fabric photos up From: "Sharron K. Evans"
<quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:46:46 -0400
X-Message-Number: 12
Ref: http://www1.eboard.com/eboard/servlet/
Andi - Do I have to be a member of eboard to view your photos? I'm
really interested in seeing the photos but I can't seem to get past the
home page. Can someone help me?
Best regards, Sharron.......... ......north of humid Houston
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Subject: Re: faded fabric photos up From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com>
Shahron -- bookmark www.vintagepictures.eboard.com This brings up the
the viewing screen with its five tabs.. Click on quilts which I think
Andi's swatches are featured.
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Subject: Re: Wet rugs From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:22:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 14
How big are these rugs? Since they are already wet and have survived
that, it might be worth dunking them yourself in some soap and water. Was
the flood water mostly rain seepage, or was it muddy goo?
I have, in the past, dunk-washed area rugs in a big plastic muckbucket
or a horse-trough, then laid them on the sloping driveway and run water
over them from the hose. One in particular was a synthetic rug, living in
front hall, which received wet, mud, salt, ice, snow and labrador
retriever paws.
The key, I think, is lots of water, then drying as quickly as possible
- even to running a fan outdoors on them if necessary. My driveway works
great - bright sun most of the day, and a slope which aids drainage. Who
would have thought?
I am not a big fan of dry cleaning. Others may perhaps comment - but
apart from the strong smell, I'm not convinced that it gets anything
cleaner than soap and water, unless the item can't get wet in the first
place. No idea if it disinfects. But, it's costly - if I were willing to
spend that money, I'd be shopping for new rugs. Others may differ or be
better informed.
Best of luck, Susan
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Subject: RE: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: "Sarah Hough"
<dougandsarah1comcast.net> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:36:02 -0500
X-Message-Number: 15
When we were in Egypt last winter we visited a Nubian village. Most of
the houses were painted a very distinct blue. As I remembered the
"blue" tale that it keeps away "haints" I asked our
guide if they had the same superstition. She said no, that they just liked
the color blue.
Incidentally, I bought three Nubian hats from one of the vendors. When
I got back to the hotel, I found a "Made in China" label in one
of them and you could see where it had been cut out of the other two.
Sarah
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Subject: RE: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:47:47 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16
Sarah from the South wrote:
> When we were in Egypt last winter we visited a Nubian village.
Most of the > houses were painted a very distinct blue.
Sarah,
That color is an old, old color and is generally called Egyptian Blue.
Found in paintings, friezework, ubiquitous in stylized lotus paintings,
water.
The color was popular for a long time in Europe. Napoleon's excursion
popularized everything Egyptian, including symbols and colors. The
particular color I'm talking about (and you know what it is) was popular
in NC and parts of the South after CW, espcially after 1875. It is
'muddy.' It, the oxblood, and cheddar seem to replace the earlier red,
green, and yellow. I assume but can't yet prove that it comes out of
German sections of the Carolinas. I'm guessing the cloth was mfg there.
See a color like it, usually darker and clearer, here and there in early
19th-century albums and in some Baltimore albums, I think. In fact, a list
member sent a jpeg of a gorgeous quilt top I'd judge to be ante-bellum
that had floral border.
Keep looking.
Gi
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Subject: atlanta underground From: ikwlt <ikwltyahoo.com> Date:
Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:58:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1
a few months back someone posted that they were visiting in atlanta and
in search of the "museum"/store that is run by the niece of
ozella williams of HIPV notariety. i believe the shop is in that atlanta
underground area.
in october i will be in atlanta and hope to be able to check this place
out for myself. it seems the person on the list found the store to be
closed, or closed up, or something unusual like that. i'm hoping she is
still on the list and might be able to give me some information to help in
my search.
patti
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Subject: tucking and teal/haint blue From: Laura Robins-Morris <lrobinsscharp.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:29:53 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2
Tucking: I appreciate all the responses about tucking quilts. I had
never thought about the stress on the quilt when tucking and certainly
never thought about the old bed spring and wires. (And now I won't feel
lazy when I don't make a quilt extra long for tucking in. That frequently
messes up the design too.)
Blues: Not having seen any of the teal/cheddar quilts in person, though
many in books, I usually thought that that *teal* was just a poor color
reproduction in print or a home-dyed blue that had partially faded or
changed over time. (Like the fugitive greens.) This discussion has been
very informative. Gaye, I hope you find the
additional information you need and put it all in what would make a
very interesting article (or book?).
Laura, in cool dry Seattle, with much sympathy for those sweltering or
soaking in other parts of the country.
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Subject: Fabric question From: JLHfwaol.com Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007
10:58:19 EDT
Dear Pepper, I don't have your off list address. What time period does
your new fabric line, Josephine, represent? Janet H
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Subject: Re: atlanta underground From: "Judy Grow" <judygrowpatmedia.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:27 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4
Patti,
What exactly are you searching for? The shop or information from the
shop owner?
Judy
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Subject: RE: FW: Teal>Haint Blue? From: Mary Anne R
<sewmuch63yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 5
--- Sarah Hough <dougandsarah1comcast.net> wrote: >
Incidentally, I bought three Nubian hats from one of > the vendors.
When I got back to the hotel, I found a "Made in China" label in
one of them and you > could see where it had been cut out of the other
> two.
How funny and how sad at the same time. On a related note, I often
wonder what will happen to the US when all of our factories have been shut
down, all of our food is imported, and we are at the mercy of our
suppliers. So many of our 'things' are made in China now. It's scary.
I bought some tomatoes in Publix last week and they had an 'imported
from Canada' sticker on them! Why are we paying to import tomatoes all
that distance when we live in FL and it's tomato season? Yikes!
Grumble, grumble...guess I'm just getting old.
Mary Anne
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Subject: use of felt/palampore From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Fri, 10 Aug
2007 13:30:48 EDT X-Message-Number: 7
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When did folks begin to sew felt letters on quilts, clothing (sweaters)
and banners? I have seen many painted banners from the 1800's but haven't
seen any with felt letters. Am in a debate/discussion with someone over
this. Can anyone help me????? I know that felted cloth has been around for
centuries, but when did it become thin and dyed in colors for a craft type
application? Did anyone look at the quilt with the diamond on the pillow
area I put on Kris' site??? I need to give my guild advice on this and I
don't have a clue. Thanks in advance. Oh, as for the palampore/bedspread
Linda has. I have emailed her privately but I will add a few comments to
the list. This type of painted bedcovering has been made in India for
hundreds of years and have been used in the Europe since the mid-1500's.
This one she has appears to be post 1950+ in my opinion. Without seeing it
in person it is difficult to make a blanket comment about. Often the ones
found in "head shops" of the 1960's-to present are a looser
weave. I do have one from the 1930's that was made in Italy and it has a
fine weave base. (Fortunately it had a tag on it.) Then again I have one
that I purchased in the 1990's from a catalog out of England and it is an
excellent quality weave. Due to this it is impossible to date without
seeing in person and comparing with others. They are not only produced in
India but they have been produced in Italy, France and Holland. Off to do
all sorts of stuff. And mostly I am tyring to stay out of the heat. Lynn
Lynn Lancaster Gorges Historic Textiles Studio 3910 Hwy 70 E New Bern,
NC
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Subject: One More Tuck From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:04:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8
Another Take on Tucks
Ladye Harveston, from Jonesboro, LA, showed a child's quilt at a Deep
South Quilt Study Group meeting that was decidedly tucked. Her mother used
large safety pins---I think they were the kind laundries used to use--to
fasten the tucks under her children's quilts. The point was to assure they
did not "kick out" the tucked-in covers and thus have cold feet.
Ladye had the pins with the quilt. She said that to this day, she cannot
bear tucked-in bed covers. I had forgotten that until this week, when I
saw Ms. Harveston, a member of this list. I asked her to report it
herself, but she said she's a lurker. A lurker now revealed. I'm sure I
got some part of it wrong; so L. will have to clarify.
I often think of the pains our mothers took to keep us warm and dry in
this temperate zone. My mother seemed to live in constant fear of
"germs" and "you never know what is out there." I was
the only child in elementary school who wore rain boots, raincoat, and
rain hat on rainy or might-be-rainy days. September, January, May---hot or
cold weather, it didn't matter: wet was the enemy. Pajamas had feet in
them to assure against wayward kicking of covers ("I'm sorry,
Gaye," she would say when I protested that my feet were smothering.
"But even in your sleep you are entirely too independent. Mama can't
take chances with your health.") Cold was also the enemy.
On sincerely cold December and January nights, my sister and I lay
weighted by quilts, not daring to move once we had "warmed" our
places in the cold bed. Down the hall our parents were snug under an
electric blanket. ("I do not trust these things with children,"
Mama would say. "They are still new and one just never knows. I don't
want an electrocuted child." And so the electric blanket my father
had brought from his store lay unused in the linen closet. Electricity was
dangerous in the hands or on the backs of rambunctious children.
Natural gas was the enemy of everyone who slept in a home that used it.
"I've read COUNTLESS accounts of people asphyxiated in their sleep by
leaking natural gas. If I can help it, my children will not be among
those." Mother would harumph when my sister and I begged her to leave
the heat on at night. And that was that.
Our mother had been in a tornado when she was a girl. The wind itself
seems not to have hit her parental home directly, but according to her
"all the windows" of that big, many-windowed house had been
knocked out by hail that accompanied it. The experience left her with a
lifelong fear of dark clouds rolling in from the west and thunderstorms.
Until her death at age 92, she religiously watch weather broadcasts to see
if Baton Rouge or Ruston, LA, had or might have bad weather. And if either
seemed liable, my sister and I got calls, warning us to take care and
inquiring into the precise nature of the weather we were observing outside
our windows. Now, we call one another and laugh and remember our cautious
mother.
"All one can do is be prepared, be properly dressed should a
tornado hit," Mother said when we were children. "Properly
dressed" for a tornado meant raincoat and hat and boots. I cannot
count all the times I have wakened in the middle of the night with a heavy
rain pounding on the roof and found myself booted and rain-hatted and my
mother buttoning up my red raincoat. On such occasions, Mother would say,
"There is nothing at all to be concerned about. Just go back to sleep
and dream sweet dreams. This is just a matter of precaution." My
sister and I would giggle that if we were left dead in a tornado, people
would puzzle over our sleeping attire. Mother didn't see the humor.
Weather was serious business.
I know she would have considered the maneuver of a quilt secured by
large safety-pins progressive. As an adult I've realized my mother grew up
in a world with no antibiotics, where a sniffle could become diphtheria
and death. She herself had a prolonged bout of typhoid fever. So all her
precautions made sense to her. And while they made no sense to me and my
sister, they at least had one good result. We bonded in our opposition to
our parent's safety measures.
Now, Ladye, tell your story right.
Gaye Ingram
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Subject: Moon Over the Mountain.. From: KathrynHerrmannaol.com
Can anyone tell me if Moon Over the Mountain quilt block predates the
1948 publication by Marguerite Ickis? Does anyone know more about it's
history?
Thanks, -Kathryn Hendersonville, NC
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Subject: Klu Klux Klan Quilt From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:30:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 10
I received a call from a man in Indiana who has inherited a quilt made
with Klu Klux Klan robes. He is at a loss to know what to do with it -
donate it to a museum? If so, who would take it? Sell it? If so, for how
much? I tried to talk him into giving it to me but no luck:-))
I really didn't know what to tell him. If anyone has any suggestions
for him (please be polite, he is 80 something!), give him a call at
1-765-457-5666. His name is John Rawlings.
Kris
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Subject: Re: Klu Klux Klan Quilt From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:11:42 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11
Joan wrote: > a man in Indiana who has inherited a quiltmade with
Klu Klux Klan robes. He >is at a loss to know what to do with it -
donate it to a museum? If so, who >would take it? Sell it?
Kris, why didn't you tell him to pass it on to a living Klansman? They
are all over, you know, many in your own state and more in Indiana. In
Louisiana they hold periodic rallies in Shreveport, which is much
embarrassed by them. Livingston Parish, a rural parish before Katrina and
adjacent to East Baton Rouge Parish, our capital, is working alive with
Klansmen. It is the home of David Duke, once the Grande Grandee or
something and candidate for governor of our state.
One day historians are going to recognize in the continued existence of
this group something like that which produces populism--a symptom of
economic or social groups' being marginalized--and then they will be happy
to have as evidence a quilt made from Klan robes.
I suspect historical museums in Indiana would be interested. They
should be, anyway.
Gaye
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Subject: old silk threads and old ribbon From: Barb Robson <robsonbheastlink.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:45:45 -0300 X-Message-Number: 13
I have recently received some old silk thread, on wooden spools. Is it
going to be still ok to use?
I also have some old ribbon, yards and yards of it still on the
original reels with paper in between the layers. Should I rewind it onto
something else? Not much is labelled as to fibre content, there is some
silk, some gros grain, some satin. A lot of it is 4"-5" wide.
Most is labelled as made in France or Switzerland.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Barbara Robson Fox Point, Nova Scotia Canada
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Subject: Re: Klu Klux Klan Quilt From: "Stephanie Grace
Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007
17:53:58 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14
How does he know they are KKK robes? Sorry if this is a stupid
question. Stephanie Higgins
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Subject: Weather fears From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:58:49 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15
From Eccentric Epitaphs by Michelle Lovric
Julia Adams Died of thin shoes April 17, 1838, aged 19 years.
So your mothers fears were not unfounded.
Stephanie Higgins >
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Subject: Re: Weather fears From: "Lynne Z. Bassett" <lzbassettcomcast.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:36:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 16
Makes me think of one of my favorite lines from an advice book of that
period, _Letters to Young Ladies_, by Lydia Sigourney:
"A delicate silk or cotton stocking, with a thin soled shoe, in
the depth of winter, will exhibit to advantage a foot of exquisite
symmetry, but the consequences may be mournfully computed, when the 'evil
days of disease come'...."
Best, Lynne
> Julia Adams > Died of thin shoes > April 17, 1838, aged 19
years.
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Subject: Re: Weather fears From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:21:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17
You know, Stephanie, your citation makes me long for my mother to be
able to read that epitaph. Doesn't it make you wonder what the person in
charge of the epitaph was intending---blame? And whom? Parents? Society?
Poor Julia herself? It is issued as a sort of moral admonition almost.
Sounds like an interesting book.
Thanks, gaye
> Julia Adams > Died of thin shoes > April 17, 1838, aged 19
years.
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Subject: old silk threads and old ribbon From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:56:16 -0400 X-Message-Number: 18
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Barb -- ribbon and thread need to be tested and examined because you
have no idea how and where they have been stored.
For thread, roll out about 12" and gently tug. If thread snaps or
breaks, it could be good for basting only as there is no tension. If you
are going to use it on a sewing machine, also test for tension.
It's okay to leave ribbon with its interleaving but you need to examine
for splitting, rotting and other damage regardless if silk or rayon. again
gently tugging. You may find you have aces and spaces as we say in bridge.
This means good areas and throwaway areas.
Grosgrain generally holds up well due to its ribbing. But please
examine each to avoid disappointment. I had/have tons of early 1900s to
1940s
thread and ribbon from France, Switzerland and USA. Many I had to pitch
as they were rotted. Sigh.
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Subject: Shuttle Information From: JLHfwaol.com Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007
21:41:19 EDT
Dear Friends, I posted this on the AQSG list, but it was read as a
request to join the list which I already belong to. I have a question
regarding the shuttle from Logan Airport in Boston to Logan. How long a
trip is this timewise? I need some information to make my return trip to
Logan on Monday to meet my flight on time. Yes, Gaye and Polly, I have
changed my mind about going back to Guatemala on the annual Medical
Missionary Trip. It is time to stand back and regroup after my son's
death. I am looking forward to Seminar and hope to meet both of you . Best
Regard, Janet Henderson in Fort Worth
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