Jocelyn wrote:> But Victorians were obsessive about having children tucked in tightly with > their arms atop the covers, lest the little darlings engage in any indecent > activities during the night....

Jocelyn,

I really believe that this custom was one that never came South. I have no authority for this, just imagination tempered by experience. Farm families were large. It was not unheard of for there to be 10-12 children--minimum. Children were assets to the self-sufficient farmers that spread out across the Deep South. They were farm help.

With 10-12 children, who would have the energy left to care what they did at night?

That's one reason we're not so prim and prissy down here. We are descended from folks who trusted God to keep his eye on the sparrow and whatever children were in the house while they tried to get a few hours sleep each night. With all the fevers and diseases the seaboarders discovered when they first migrated to the Old Southwest, they got a quick lesson in Things That Matter. And I'd bet nearly anything I own, that any given child's "indecent" nocturnal behavior didn't get high priority on that list, so long as he was quiet and didn't wake anybody else.

There is a wonderful section in HUCK FINN that applies. Huck had cited Solomon to Jim as an example of wisdom. Jim took sharp exception, telling Huck not to come telling him about Solomon and his wisdom. Solomon, he says, would as soon chop a chile in two as a cat. Presented with the two women claiming the same child, a wise man would have shinnied around amongst the neighbors and found who that child belonged to and been done with the matter. But no, that wasn't good enough for Solomon: he had to chop that chile in two.

What good is half a chile? Jim asked Huck. The argument was about a WHOLE chile!

Jim finds the source of Solomon's lack of good judgment in too much of a good thing. It was all in the way he was raised, Jim says. With that harem, Solomon had thousands of children running around all over the house. What does he care about a child, more or less? He can AFFORD to lose some.

You take a man that got just a chile or two, now THERE'S a man knows how to value a chile, Jim asserts. That's a man that's not going to go around wasting chillun.

Well, when folks in PA were having a chile or two, folks in Alabama and Mississippi and Louisiana were having houses full of chillen. They loved them all, it seems, and they piled them in big communal beds, stuck them out on sleeping porches in the summertime, tucked them into cradles beside the parental bed, and when the house got full, they fixed up an attic room for the oldest boys. I bet it was the rare household that did a headcount in the morning.

People that had time for such worries needed another chile or two in my opinion. The Victorian era is an anomaly re such matters. Too much time, I suspect.

Gaye

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Subject: Re: Ku Klux Klan Quilt From: Mitzioakesaol.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 07:51:26 EDT X-Message-Number: 2

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Thanks Kris - I needed a good giggle this morning! Mitzi Oakes - VT

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Subject: Civil War quilt at NEQM From: Anita Loscalzo <aloscalzyahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 06:21:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 3

In 04, The New England Quilt Museum received a quilt that was given to James George of Cherry Valley,New York, presumably when he was hospitalized in Washington in spring of 1865 [he had been released from Andersonville Prison in late 1864]. The quilt was passed down through the family and George's life is well documented.

Pieced & Appliquéd Quilt Center Medallion Album Quilt made by R.A. Sibley, Rosa Aldrich, Mary Slone, A. Ludworth, E.G. Fitsgerald and Alice Coburn of Boston, 1865 Cotton 58 ¼" x 87 ½" New England Quilt Museum (04.17)

The quilt is constructed in the 'pot-holder' method; it has no "Sanitary Commission" tag.

A full article about the quilt is currently in press and will appear in the book to be published by the Massachusetts Quilt Documentation Project in late 08.

The quilt will be on display from August 23 to November 11 during the exhibition "Expressions of Beauty, Objects of Utility" at the NEQM. see:

http://www.nequiltmuseum.org/Exhibitions_PRExpressions.shtml

A CD of the exhibition will be available through the Museum shop.

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Subject: Sanitary Commission Quilts From: Donald Beld <donbeldpacbell.net> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 06:38:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 4

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Thanks, Stephanie; I was not aware of the Sanitary Fair quilt in Nebraska; but Carolyn Ducey and I have discussed your probably--but not stamped--quilt at the IQSG. Most were stamped, but many weren't. I am aware of the the other quilt you mentioned and have seen its photo. It is the most elaborate of the existing quilts to date--although the newly found one from Mass that I talked about has 56 blocks and has multiple designs; so it is extremely unusual for the survivors.

I was at the American Museum in Bath this spring when I was over there talking to the DOD kids at the American school just outside of London about the Home of the Brave Project and they have a wonderful, full bed size quilt with (as I remember it) 49 blocks all signed by school girls and that is the Album X block commonly used (like the Lincoln Shrines) that I am sure was intended to be several Sanitary Commission quilts; but was it was put together just after the war, probably was finished as a full size quilt instead. It is in beautiful condition; for those traveling to GB this year. Best, Don

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Subject: Sanitary Commission Quilts From: Donald Beld <donbeldpacbell.net> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 06:38:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 5

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Thanks, Stephanie; I was not aware of the Sanitary Fair quilt in Nebraska; but Carolyn Ducey and I have discussed your probably--but not stamped--quilt at the IQSG. Most were stamped, but many weren't. I am aware of the the other quilt you mentioned and have seen its photo. It is the most elaborate of the existing quilts to date--although the newly found one from Mass that I talked about has 56 blocks and has multiple designs; so it is extremely unusual for the survivors.

I was at the American Museum in Bath this spring when I was over there talking to the DOD kids at the American school just outside of London about the Home of the Brave Project and they have a wonderful, full bed size quilt with (as I remember it) 49 blocks all signed by school girls and that is the Album X block commonly used (like the Lincoln Shrines) that I am sure was intended to be several Sanitary Commission quilts; but was it was put together just after the war, probably was finished as a full size quilt instead. It is in beautiful condition; for those traveling to GB this year. Best, Don

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Subject: Stolen quilts, Quincy MA From: Susan Riley <blackeyedsewsanyahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 06:58:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

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This following message came in through my guild and I know many of you study ebay postings. My eldest is getting married and have been involved in those very detailed & intricate plans for 9 months now, so my name will be 'ancient history' for some! Susan Riley, Hingham MA

One thing we've learned from serving a community of quilters is that when you need help, quilters respond. We need your help. Quilters' Compass organized a Quilt Show at the Crane Library in Quincy that was to be on display for the month of August. We collected 35 very beautiful quilts (mostly under 36 x 36") from  different quilters and the show was spectacular. Unfortunately, we had to take the show down. Sometime Thursday morning, someone stole 8 quilts from the exhibit. One quilt was recovered, but the rest remain missing. Quincy Police are on the case, but 7 quilts are gone and we are heartsick that they might be lost forever. Some of them are truly unique and can never be replicated or replaced. To see pictures of the stolen quilts, please got to our website:

www.quilterscompass.com/stolenquilts.html

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Subject: RE: Stolen quilts, Quincy MA From: "Vivien Sayre" 

Susan, I was not able to open the page. Can you send me photos of the quilts? I  am an appraiser in MA and will keep the photos with me when appraising  in the hopes of coming across the quilts in my travels.  I am so sorry your group has gone through this awful experience.  Unfortunately, it is not uncommon. In our quest to educate the public  about the beauty and artistry of quilts we have also enlightened those  who have other ideas in mind. My sincerest wishes for the recovery of  ALL the quilts.  Vivien Sayre

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From: Susan Riley [mailto:blackeyedsewsanyahoo.com] Sent: Tue 8/14/07 9:58 AM To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] Stolen quilts, Quincy MA

This following message came in through my guild and I know many of you  study ebay postings. My eldest is getting married and have been involved  in those very detailed & intricate plans for 9 months now, so my name  will be 'ancient history' for some! Susan Riley, Hingham MA 

One thing we've learned from serving a community of quilters is that  when you need help, quilters respond. We need your help. Quilters' Compass organized a Quilt Show at the Crane Library in  Quincy that was to be on display for the month of August. We collected  35 very beautiful quilts (mostly under 36 x 36") from  different  quilters and the show was spectacular. Unfortunately, we had to take the show down. Sometime Thursday  morning, someone stole 8 quilts from the exhibit. One quilt was  recovered, but the rest remain missing. Quincy Police are on the case,  but 7 quilts are gone and we are heartsick that they might be lost  forever. Some of them are truly unique and can never be replicated or  replaced. To see pictures of the stolen quilts, please got to our website:  www.quilterscompass.com/stolenquilts.html

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Subject: Re: Ku Klux Klan Quilt From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com 

Gaye, re:your needing a witch's hat Reminds me of a family legend. My mother made our Halloween costumes, and being a home ec major (emphasis in clothing construction), she made them out of sturdy fabric, so that we could wear them for 'dress-up' play as  well. One costume was a white robe, which formed the body for both the an gel and ghost costumes. The ghost costume had a...well...sort of hood, wi th nice round eyeholes bordered with bias tape to keep them from ripping  or stretching. When my sister was dating her DH, she took him to our basement to see the memorabilia of her childhood. They were looking through boxes of toys an d games, when Jim happened upon the hood. He pulled it out, studied it fo r a minute, then said, 'I know your mama's from Mississippi, but....' <G>

The idea that our mother would have made us a Junior Klansman costume for dress-up has provided a lot of laughs over the years.

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Subject: Re: Klu Klux Klan Quilt From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com 

Stephanie, You are absolutely correct. If, as I was imagining, a patch featuring the KKK emblem was used in the quilt, it would pretty much establish it as a quilt that was intended to honor the KKK- surely no one would have been  so hard up for scraps that she would use that patch if she abhored the KK K! :) But if it is just plain white fabric, I would definitely question the ori gin, in the absence of a primary source. For example, a diary in which a  woman noted, 'Cut up Murgatroyd's old KKK robes for a quilt.' or, in Murg atroyd's diary, 'Gave my Grand Wizard robe to Mama so she could make a co mmemorative quilt for the 50th anniversary of our Klavern.' I would be su spicious of family legend, because it's so easy for inaccuracies to get s tuck in family legends. Perhaps Aunt Clara THOUGHT this was a KKK robe, b ut really it was old bedsheets. Maybe Clara said it LOOKED LIKE Murgatroy d's KKK robe, and Cousin Elspeth heard and remembered the statement as it WAS. One of the big problems quilt appraisers have, is people who believe fami ly legends that fly in the face of logic. For example, here's Grandma's q uilt. It's a lovely pastel Sunbonnet Sue. But the family is outraged to b e told it's 70 years old; why, they KNOW it's at least 125. Why? Because  it was made by Grandma, and she was born in 1880. It makes a LOT more sen se that Grandma made a SBS quilt in 1930s pastels when she was 55, than t hat she pieced this quilt while she was in her cradle, but that family le gend lives on, confusing the birth dates of quilters with the age of the  quilts they made. :)

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Subject: Re: KKK Quilt From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 16:07:25 +0000 X-Message-Number: 10

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>intolerable. This is one time I would be all for silencing the man.

Alan, Mr. Phelps's church (I may be out of date, but formerly I lived in Lawren ce, Kansas, and Phelps himself was not attending the protests, sparking s ome to wonder if he had died) is extremely difficult to silence. The only method I've known of working was when the KU Gay Pride folks too k bids for donations based on a certain amount of money for each minute t he Phelps church was protesting. Someone went across the street and infor med them that they were actually raising money for the Gay Pride group, a nd you would have thought Scotty had beamed them up, they departed so rap idly! They raised about $1000 before they left, and as the organizers sai d, it was a win-win situation for them.

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Subject: RE: Stolen quilts, Quincy MA From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 12:08:17 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11

Susan,

I am so sad to hear of the loss of the quilts and I am forwarding information to my guilds here and friends in a former guild in Pittsfield, MA and others to hopefully help get the word out.

Have you also considered putting the information on www.lostquilt.com? I used to know someone who recovered their missing quilt because of that site.

I am so sorry your guild is going through this and I hope the remaining lost 7 quilts will be found soon.

Please keep us posted.

Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle Who used to live in The Berkshires and was a member of Yankee Pride Quilt Guild in Pittsfield, MA

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Subject: Re: Ku Klux Klan Quilt and history From: Amy Munson 

I work at the State Historical Society of North Dakota and in a recent tv i nterview some of the strange and odd items were pulled out of collections a nd discussed. One item happened to be a KKK robe.... http://www.kfyrtv.com/news_stories.asp?news3D8985 Amy

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Subject: RE: Swastika pattern From: AG340aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 18:06:42 EDT X-Message-Number: 13

In Coconut Grove ,FL. there was a large waterfront estate called Swastitka that was owned by one of the pioneer families.It was owned by the Matheson family and it was the site of many early social events a nd fund raisers. I know some of the family that still live in Coconut Grove and I showed him a 1926 party program from the C.G. Womens Club archives with the swastitka emblem on it. He said that at that time it was an Indian sign of good luck. The name was changed around W.W,II.for abvious reasons. Amy Goodhart in hot ,sticky,Miami

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Subject: Re: KKK Quilt From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 17:08:35 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14

>>for donations based on a certain amount of money for each minute the >>Phelps >>church was protesting. Someone went across the street and >>informed them that >>they were actually raising money for the Gay Pride >>group,

Thanks! I needed that laugh. Phelps is very much alive and even on You Tube. Such vitriol you;ve never heard. Any more I wonder why he even bothers to live hee since the lot of us are so evil.

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Subject: On the subject of tattoos From: "Kathy Moore" 

Having recently been a stem cell donor to my younger sister who has  multiple myeloma, I cannot resist the urge to speak to the issue of  getting tattoos. This is something people take far too lightly.

When you begin the process of being certified to become an organ donor,  one of the very first questions you have to answer is if you have a  tattoo. I don't know if it would actually disqualify you as a donor but  the question is always clustered with others relating to sharing of  needles, being addicted to drugs, having hepatitis, having multiple sex  partners, having lived in Great Britain and other foreign countries for  extended periods, etc.

I know, I can hear you all saying "why would I need to worry about that?  How is it relevant to me?"

Well, let me tell you. I never expected my sister to develop an  incurable form of cancer. And I never expected that I might be the donor  of choice, that my DNA and hers would be a nearly identical match, or  that any of this would ever be necessary or even possible.

BUT IT WAS, and I was able to make a donation that has given her a new  lease on life. She's in complete remission...we hope for the indefinite  future and an extended numer of years.

Tattoos are a bad idea and a fad I hope will soon pass.

Take care of yourselves. You never know when you might have to make the  same kind of difference in the life of a loved one.

Respectfully, Kathy Moore Lincoln, NE

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Subject: Re: On the subject of tattoos From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 07 22:56:34 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1

>>Tattoos are a bad idea and a fad I hope will soon pass.

Kathy, tattoos are nowhere near a fad. They have just seen an eplosion is acceptability. Peope have been tatooing themselves for as long as they've known how to modify their bodies. NAtive Americans, Aborigines, sailors, etc.

In regards to your sister (I hope all works well!), they ask so that they can gauge the likelihood that you may have contracted some blood-borne disease such as HIV, hepatitis and the like. If there is a concern, they will then test you for said diseases. A healthcare worker in the instance you stated would be way out of line to disqualify anyone solely on the fact they have a tattoo.

Also, getting tattoos at reputable parlors is very low risk. The tools for this and piercing are at the least autoclaved, if not actually disposable. The trend now is to use disposables.

Alan have one tribal design around the navel

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Subject: Re: KKK Quilt From: "Lisa Evans" <kittencat3charter.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 07 22:48:35 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Fred Phelps is one of the most purely evil men alive. Anyone who would *gloat* over deaths is beyond the pale.

Lisa Evans

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Subject: Re: Swastika From: "Lisa Evans" <kittencat3charter.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 07 23:12:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

The swastika was a perfectly good image until Hitler got his paws on it. Now it's pretty much ruined, unless you're in India.

Lisa Evans

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Subject: Triple row quilting From: "suzanne broderick" <smb4incaol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 08:25:28 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

I am trying to find information on triple row quilting. A few years back at either a Quilt History Conference or Quilt Restoration meeting someone mentioned it. I've looked through my notes and now can not locate the reference. Seems to me triple row quilting came from a specific area of the country, but maybe it was unique to a religous or ethnic group.

Does anyone have more concrete information on it??

Thanks, Suzanne smb4incaol.com 

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Subject: triple row quilting From: "MARIE SARCHIAPONE" <mariesarchiaponeverizon.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 09:07:08 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

I have a template for it. At the bottom it says 1800-1840. The vendor says it was used on utility quilts.

There are groups of three lines separated from each other by a 1/4 inch space. The groups are separated by a 1/2 inch space.

Is this what you are referring to?

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Subject: On the subject of tattoos From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com> 

Alan -- just couldn't resist asking this -- is your tribal decoration by perchance also a quilt pattern??

Alan wrote:

have one tribal design around the navel

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Subject: Re: triple row quilting From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 09:12:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

Said vendor who called that for "utility quilts" doesn't seem to have done much hand quilting. . . . . :-). I've seen lots of this triple row used as background behind feathered

borders & etc. But never on a "utility" quilt.

Stephanie Whitson Higgins www.stephaniewhitson.com >

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Subject: Tattoos From: JLHfwaol.com Date: 

Blood borne diseases include HIV, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, syphilis. Using an autoclave does not guarentee that the needles are sterile. Nor does using disposables. If the user is not wearing sterile gloves and maintaining a sterile field the entire time, the needles can become contaminated with bacteria, blood, or viral elements. It is just like a surgical field in the operating room. Janet L. Henderson MD

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Subject: Re: On the subject of tattoos From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 09:22:00 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

With all due respect, my tattoo was done in a setting where all instruments are sterilized in an autoclave. The artist showed me both the needles he was using AND the ink source and both were in "hermetically sealed" packets meaning they were only going to be used for me. I felt just as safe as I feel in a hospital or doctor's office. Actually, I felt a little safer. There wasn't anyone else in the tattoo parlor at the time. In a hospital you're constantly being exposed to patients with all kinds of infectious diseases.

Tattoos have a negative connotation in society because of poor practitioners and idiots who pick something out of a book when they're drunk. But tattoos also have a very long and honored indigenous tradition and can be very meaningful for the person getting one. As in all things, it's a bit of a leap to lump it all together into one basket of bad apples.

I'm not bad. . . but I respectfully disagree.

Stephanie Whitson Higgins www.stephaniewhitson.com

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Subject: interesting place for cloth swatches From: "Andi" <andi0613iowatelecom.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 09:16:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10

Those who collect cloth swatches and sample books might be interested in this tidbit:

In "Forgotten Elegance: The Art, Artifacts and Peculiar History of Victorian and Edwardian Entertaining in America" by Wendell Schollander and Wes Schollander (published by Greenwood Press, Westport, CT, 02, ISBN 0-313-31685-6), on page 44, in a discussion of Burgundy wine and why it came late to Victorian dining rooms, the authors write: "Given the terrible road system in France up to the nineteenth century, and problems of transporting a bulk product overland, little Burgundy wine reached Paris. The natural outlet for this wine was downriver to the Mediterranean Sea. Some went north on old cloth trade routes to what is now Belgium and Holland, areas ruled by Burgundy in the Middle Ages. A salesman's sample book from the early 1700s that has cloth swatches in the front and a wine list in the back still exists." The footnote is: Hugh Johnson, "Hugh Johnson's Story of Wine" (London: Mitchell Beazley Publishers Limited, 1996), p. 277.

Andi in Keota, Iowa

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Subject: Tattoos From: JLHfwaol.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 10:52:49 EDT X-Message-Number: 11

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Dear Stephanie, I have no opinion regarding the desirability or dislike of tattoos. I think that is the business of the person who has them and I have no right to judge. My only concern is that you cannot assume that it is a 100% safe or low risk proceedure any more than you can assume that there is little or no risk in surgery. I am glad that you had no problems with your tattoo. Regards, Janet Henderson MD in Fort Worth

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Subject: Re: KKK Quilt From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 15:28:55 +0000 X-Message-Number: 12

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>Thanks! I needed that laugh. Phelps is very much alive and even on You 

>Tube. Such vitriol you;ve never heard. Alan, Alas, I wish it were true that it was vitriol that I'd never heard. Is it really him in the You Tube videos, and the videos are recent? I rem ember about 5-7 years ago he began to look like death warmed over, and qu it attending protests. I lived in Lawrence up through 05, and while his church continued to come to just about any show at the Lied Center or Ke mper Arena, he personally wasn't there. I figured that they would probabl y bury him secretly and pretend he hadn't died, if he did. In the mid 199 0s, they would come and protest shows based on the content, but by 00,  it was going anywhere they'd get attention. For example, the last time I  saw them was at the Mannheim Steamroller Christmas concert, which was a f amily event if ever there were one- too bad it had to have a gauntlet of  hatred that people had to bring their children past.

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Subject: Re: On the subject of tattoos From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 15:36:00 +0000 X-Message-Number: 13

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Kathy, Several years ago, I asked because they always asked 'any tattoos or pier cings', and I was told that you were restricted for a certain period of t ime after getting either, basically until such time as you would test pos itive for whatever disease you might have gotten. There may be absolute b ans on 'jailhouse tattoos' or any tattoo that wasn't done by a licensed p rofessional using fresh needles for each client. I'm reminded of a Matt Goering (sp?) cartoon (the artist who does The Sim psons and Life in Hell), encaptioned 'A Nursing Home, 48', where there  are two gnarly, wrinkled old men in wheelchairs, with 1980s rock group ta ttoos and multiple piercings in their hairy ears and noses, and one says  to the other, 'I see you were an idiot back in 1985, too.'

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Subject: Re: KKK Quilt From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 11:52:19 -0400 X-Message-Number: 14

What on Earth were they protesting about at a Mannheim Steamroller Christmas concert?!!!

Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle

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Subject: Re: On the subject of tattoos From: alanalanrkelchner.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 11:42:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 15

> Alan -- just couldn't resist asking this -- is your tribal decoration by > perchance also a quilt pattern??

Nope. The design is in black and resembles petroglyphs. I wish I'd thouht to find a quit-y pattern.

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Subject: Re: interesting place for cloth swatches From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 12:35:00 -0400 X-Message-Number: 16

> Those who collect cloth swatches and sample books might be interested in > this tidbit: > >

To Andi and all:

I've been wondering how one goes about collecting salesman swatches. I would prefer older ones but even knew ones would be a nice collecting item.

So...... How do you find the old ones? How do you get the new ones?

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Subject: Re: On the subject of tattoos From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 12:31:58 -0400 X-Message-Number: 17

> Alan > have one tribal design around the navel

Too much information there, Alan! LOL :)!

Although I love the idea of it having been a quilt pattern! You gotta love that.

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Subject: Re: One More Tuck From: "Candace Perry" <candaceschwenkfelder.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 15:50:41 -0400 X-Message-Number: 18

I read this just now and once again I just want to caution about generalizations...not all persons in the Victorian era would have practiced that! Candace Perry

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Subject: donating body parts - not quilt related:-)) From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 13:18:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 19

As you may know, my DH is a "ghoul" - when we are not on the road, he works for an organ procurement agency. Not a real fun job, but he is dedicated to the number of people a simple organ harvest can help. One donation can help up to 80 people. Parts of the heart, lungs, kidney, liver, pancreas, small intestine, skin, bones, tendons, veins, iliac artery, bladder and more can be retreived and reused. (Organ is life saving, tissue is life enhancing.)

To answer the question about tattoos: organ procurement agencies are unbelievably picky. Depending on where you live, a recent tattoo (and other lifestyle choices, such as incarceration) can stop you from donating for up to a year.

Other things that *might* stop you from donating are Hep B orC, HIV, any auto immunune disease, death by drowning, murder, some MVA's, pneumonia, polio CP, ALS and a whole host of other things. It depends on whether you or donating organ or tissue, who you are donating to, the area you are in, and the coroners whim.

I figure organ/tissue donation is my way of living forever. If you are interested in getting a donor card, just send me a note, I will happily pass on the message. But one thing you MUST do is let your family know. They can stop any donation if they aren't clear about your intentions or disagree with your decision.

Off my soap box now!

Kris

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Subject: Re: KKK Quilt From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 21:21:25 +0000 X-Message-Number: 

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> >What on Earth were they protesting about at a Mannheim Steamroller Chris tmas >concert!!!! That's their new strategy- go whereever there are large groups of people, and then protest about whatever issue is a bug in their ear that day. Th e event where they're protesting no longer has to have ANYTHING to do wit h homosexuality, or how God hates America and the war is our punishment.

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Subject: Mannheim Steamroller Christmas From: RAGLADYaol.com Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 17:56:44 EDT X-Message-Number: 21

I thought perhaps it had something to do with Mannheim Germany.. but nothing mentioned here on their website: http://www.mannheimsteamroller.com/index-1.html Perhaps they consider that type of muscial celebration of Christmas as being pagan?

Gloria _ragladyaol.com_ (mailto:ragladyaol.com) it was written: What on Earth were they protesting about at a Mannheim Steamroller Christmas concert!!!!

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Subject: Re: donating body parts - not quilt related:-)) From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 19:12:34 -0500 X-Message-Number: 22

There's a cool book out about the good a person can do through organ donation. I think it's called The Good Nearby. By Nancy Moser. Stephanie Whitson Higgins www.stephaniewhitson.com

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Subject: Re: On the subject of tattoos From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 19:16:27 -0500 X-Message-Number: 23

Alan. . you can always add another for your new inspiration in life. I've been fascinated by the Polynesian tats that represent quilt patterns to me. One of the arm bands my husband had done looks just like flying geese but it's a Hawaiian traditional design and very ancient in origin, like your petroglyphs I would imagine. I bought fabric in Hawaii last time I was there with petroglyphs on it. Fun! Stephanie Whitson Higgins>

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Subject: Quilt Studies/BQSG From: laurel <laurelkalmiaresearch.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 21:06:17 -0400 X-Message-Number: 24

I recently received a message from Carolyn Ferguson about the British

Quilt Study Group. She said that they are trying to arrange to have copies of /Quilt Studies/ available at the AQSG Seminar, and she asked if there might be other places that would like to offer them for sale. If you are interested, contact Carolyn directly: cmferguson777btinternet.com.

Also, they now offer a membership category, Friends of BQSG, for those of us who are not interested in joining The Quilters Guild, which has

been a prerequisite. And, because I told them it's a major inconvenience to send an international money order, they arranged for me to pay by credit card. Carolyn said they are considering offering a Paypal option, if people are interested.

Anyway, write to Carolyn, not to me or to the list.

Laurel Horton

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I'm forwarding a message from Carolyn Ferguson about the British Quilt Study Group. Please contact her directly--rather than responding to me to to the list--if you are interested in buying issues of /Quilt Studies/, the BQSG annual publication, or in joining as a Friend of BQSG, meaning you don't first have to join The Quilters Guild.

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Subject: Re: donating body parts - not quilt related:-))

Dear Kris, Excellent information for all of us. Thank you for your input.

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Subject: Protesting From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> 

It seems that people protest anything and everything that pops up  anymore..Earlier this year we took the 7th and 8th grade to DC for a  week long tour. When we arrived at the capitol there were protestors out on the lawn  chanting and handing out pamphlets.. We thought they would be protesting  war, famine, education....but nope.. they were protesting foreskin  removal and had 5 yr olds passing out the literature.. Our kids were  appalled that considering all the life threatening issues our world  faces today these people were wasting time and effort on something they  considered a personal issue... Should have seen the girls asking the boys exactly what the big deal was  and the boys trying to explain..lol.. Then the girls gave the protestors  lectures about feeding those who are starving...It was a wakeup call for  us as adults to see our children react to the event..

Sharon in NC http://community.webshots.com/user/sharonsews

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Subject: Re: Patriot Guard From: "Marilyn Withrow" <mmwmarilynquilts.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 07 15:40:08 -0700 X-Message-Number: 27

Yes, the Patriot Guard is national, although rather loosely organized, from what I can tell. I've read about it in several publications, and one of my sons, who owns and rides a Harley, has participated in some of their "escorts" for fallen soldiers in the Central Valley of California. (He's not what many folks think of as Hell's Angels or others who ride motorcycles -- he's a mortgage broker in his late 40s, professional and patriotic. He just loves motorcycles; always has and probably always will.) I believe it started with Harley Davidson owners, following some unthinking people's actions in demonstrating against the war at funerals. The Guard simply protects the family, as Stephanie and Lisa mentioned. Since I am so involved with the Home of the Brave Project, making quilts for families of the fallen soldiers, it made my heart swell with pride when he told me he had just returned from a weekend ride with the Guard, protecting the family of one of California's fallen.

Marilyn Maddalena Withrow Professional Quilt Appraiser, Judge, Historian, Designer and Speaker Southern Oregon State Coordinator, Home of the Brave Project www.marilynquilts.com www.footscreekfarms.com "Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things."

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Subject: Re: Patriot Guard From: Mitzioakesaol.com

Good Morning - could you (or someone reading this) send me more info on Home of the Brave project - our local guild is always looking for places to put the hundreds of community quilts they make each year and this project sounds like something we might be interested in. Mitzi Oakes So. Burlington, VT _mitzioakesaol.com_ (mailto:mitzioakesaol.com)

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Subject: Re: Patriot Quilts From: xenia cord <xenialegacyquilts.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 08:52:31 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

There are two patriot quilt projects that I know of, dedicated to those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan: The Home of the Brave project

intended for families of those killed in action, headed by Don Beld of our list, and the Quilts of Valor project, headed by Catherine Roberts, making quilts for returning wounded warriors.

A nervous breakdown on the part of my overworked computer last week means I have lost my contact lists, but maybe someone else has that info - and I expect Don will reply about his project.

Xenia

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Subject: Re: Patriot Quilts From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <maquilterepix.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 10:19:43 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

Catherine Roberts can be contacted at

The Quilts of Valor Foundation website is http://www.qovf.org/ and Catherine Roberts can be contacted through that site or at Email: cathQOVF.org Phone: 302.236.0230 (Delaware-East Coast).

If anyone lives nearby, Catherine Roberts is scheduled to speak at the Red Rose Quilters' Guild meeting at 7:00 p.m. on September 11, 07 which meets in the West Community Room at Landis Homes, 1001 East Oregon Road, Lititz, PA (Lancaster County, PA).

Both of the local guilds I am involved in contribute to the QOVF and I just the other day received a wonderful not from one of the recipients of one of the quilts I have sent. I cried.

Also, there was a wonderful write up about QOVF in Washington Post January 31, 07, entitled "With Gratitude In Every Stitch" written by staff writer Jura Koncius. The link to the article at WashingtonPost.com seems to be outdated but if you're interested I have a printed copy I can send email.

All I have for Home of the Brave is this site: http://www.homeofthebravequilts.com/links.htm so I will leave further contact regarding that one to Don Beld. I too would love to learn more about this project.

Both are wonderful projects and worth the effort to get involved.

Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle

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Subject: Re: Patriot Quilts From: xenia cord <xenialegacyquilts.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 10:35:36 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

Among others, the American Quilt Study Group is informally involved in the Quilts of Valor project. At our annual seminar last year, in

Connecticut, Cranston Printworks donated about 2 dozen bolts of patriotic-themed fabric for our use in making quilts for wounded soldiers. I offered to be the conduit for finished quilts, which are

still being sent to me. I am sending them to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, where the wounded arrive from downrange.

Since the post office has changed the way it assesses postage, now charging by package size rather than weight, a bit of advice: roll quilts to be sent into small, tight rolls tied with a strip of fabric. The rolls can be packed densely, and they are more easily distributed to the wounded.

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Subject: Re: Cloth swatches (getting long) From: Paul and Nancy Hahn <phahnerols.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 10:39:28 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

Interesting question, Sharron...."Where do you go to find the swatches and samples." As my husband and I often say, regarding our antique treasure finds for our little business, "You have to kiss alot of frogs before you find the prince." I have just returned from a 2 week to NH and Maine, setting up at antique shows, hunting for treasures and eating lobster. I am sitting here, still clutching to my bosom, one of my latest finds, a 1841-43 sample book, probably from Alsace. Although mine is just part of a whole book, without the cover, it is 36 pages of irregularly cut fabric pieces glued to paper, just like the ones we saw in Mulhouse on Deb Roberts' first textile trip to France. Eventually I will research the names and dates to further pinpoint where it is from. I have ruled out England, as the names are not in the wonderful , "Secret Life of Textiles" as British printers/designers/manufacturers. This is probably one of my most interesting finds, although hundreds of miles away from where I found this sample book, I also stumbled upon a number of the painted mock-ups on paper of fabric designs that we learned in Mulhouse were done before the actual go-ahead was given to

print a new fabric design. In one place I found Turkey Red painted mock-ups (does anyone know the correct term for these?) and a long way down the road I found a fabulous one of a copper madder print.

Now, this is the first time in my 15+ years dealilng with antique textiles I found any of these. But, Sharron, I kiss a lot of frogs. I would suggest you hunt antique shows, contact your favorite antique dealers and let them know what you are looking for and ask them to call you with anything of interest they may have. Look for very badly damaged quilts and tops that have no other use and take them apart for the good pieces to start a sample book. I often find bags of cut pieces for a never assembled quilt that can be easily used. Come visit the vendor's mall at AQSG in Lowell, there will be numerous vendors with fabrics and swatches.

Nancy Hahn, Bowie Maryland, still on a high.........

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Subject: Re: Cloth swatches (getting long) From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 11:07:11 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Wow! What a treat, Nancy.

Thank you for your response. I do have some books I've made for myself and Cindy Brick has a booklet that you can purchase and add to which I've done. I will keep looking at the antique shops and flea markets.

I'm thinking of talking to some of the fabric manufacturers at the International Quilt Festival this October and see what info I can get from them. I did send an email to Marcus Brothers the other day but have no response as yet.

Thanks again for the information and I'll keep looking.

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Subject: Re: Patriot Quilts From: "Sharron K. Evans" <quiltnsharroncharter.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 10:58:39 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

I just had to share. Last month/month before last(?) a soldier in full dress uniform came to the Conroe Quilt Guild in Conroe, Texas just to thank quilters in general for his quilt. He brought it to show in Show and Tell. If I'm not mistaken, the quilt was not made by our group, but Conroe was his home and he wanted to show his appreciation as best he could. What a wonderful gesture.

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Subject: Re: Mannheim Steamroller Christmas From: jocelynmdelphiforums.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 15:41:40 +0000 X-Message-Number: 8

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Gloria, The 'Mannheim' refers to some sort of harmony, if I recall correctly. App arently in the early days of the group, someone said something like, 'Tha t Mannheim really hits you like a steamroller', and someone else said, 'H ey....' :) No, they weren't protesting the concert itself; they were shouting their  messages of hate about homosexuality. They were at the concert because it was being held in a large arena, and they go anywhere there's a large cr owd gathering. In the early days, they only protested when there was some sort of connection (for example, a gay musician performing) but after aw hile, they started going anywhere they could be sure of an audience (of s orts). I had season tickets to several different concert series at the Li ed Center in Lawrence, and they were always there, whether it was a Broad way show, a ballet, opera, chamber music, whatever. I just used the MS as an example of how they'd protest at any show, and how they turned what s hould be a fine family concert into a display most people wouldn't want t heir children exposed to. That's the saddest part about them- to see the  little children screaming about who God hates.

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Subject: Re: Cloth swatches (getting long) From: TEXTIQUEaol.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 12:00:22 EDT X-Message-Number: 9

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In a message dated 8/16/07 8:43:10 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phahnerols.com writes:

In one place I found Turkey Red painted mock-ups (does anyone know the correct term for these?)

Nancy, I believe you are referring to gouache on paper???

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Subject: Mannheim From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 11:56:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 10

There was a group of composers in the 18th century around Mannheim, Germany...they influenced the classical style of music, and are particularly noted for their use of wider variations in loudness and softness than had been common before. The cheeky term for a large, steadily building volume from quiet to very loud in a symphony composed in that period is "Mannheim steamroller". We know it in common music terms as a crescendo.

Judy Grow, anything to add?? Susan

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Subject: Re: Patriot Guard From: SoldierGrrrl <soldier.grrrlgmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 07 07:46:15 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11

On 8/16/07, Mitzioakesaol.com <Mitzioakesaol.com> wrote: > Good Morning - could you (or someone reading this) send me more info on Home > of the Brave project

Here you go. Google's got a lot of information, too. Just google "home of the brave project."

http://www.homeofthebravequilts.com/ -- Blonde. It's not just a hair color; it's a way of life.

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Subject: MANNHEIM From: "Judy Grow" <judygrowpatmedia.net> 

Nothing from me. I do have one Christmas album.  Tunes from Carl Stamitz don't readily come to mind.

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Subject: Two New books from the UK (long) From: Sally Ward 

I don't know if you have a saying like ours 'you wait ages for one  bus and then two turn up at once' ? This month has seen the  publication of two new books in the UK which I hope will be of  interest to you. Apologies to those of you who have read my reviews  on BQTHL, but I have been asked (honest I have) to repeat them in the 

US forum.

The one of most immediate interest, I guess, is the long-awaited new  publication from the Beamish Museum (http://www.beamish.org.uk/).  This will be familiar to many of you as an open-air museum for the  north of England, which covers many acres and is home to streets of  houses and cottages, mining gear, farms, shops, streets, trams...etc. 

etc. which have all been re-located from their original homes and are 

filled with the minutiae of daily life, including textiles. A  catalogue of the quilt collection has long been out of print, and we  have been waiting for a re-print or new publication. Now it has  arrived, and this is how I described it to the UK list:

'Quilts and Coverlets, The Beamish Collections' by Rosemary Allan

Order online from Beamish Museum, credit cards accepted (no  affiliation etc.). There is a link to the shop on this page http:// beamishcollections.com/. For some reason the shop link isn't working 

today (maybe eager quilters have crashed it<G>) but it worked for me  last week. Be patient.

The first thing that takes you aback about the book if, like me, you

are ordering 'on spec' is the price. A330 plus postage is way more

than we are used to forking out. But I'm glad I took the chance. What arrived (very promptly, ordered online from the Beamish Museum) is a large coffee-table type book. Softback, bigger than A4, it measures 9" x 11 1/2" x 5/8" thick and weighs in at slightly over 2 3/4lb. 7 pages on really heavy quality paper. If that sounds like 'never mind the quality, feel the width', I just mention it so that you know why you're forking out an additional A35 for the postage. And I should warn you that you need to sit at a table to read it, or else put a cushion on your knees <G>

Author Rosemary Allan is Senior Keeper of Beamish Museum, and - how I envy this - has spent the last 37 years working with the collection. She was fortunate enough to start her working life with the quilt collection while the families of many of the makers, and active quilters like Amy Emms, were still there to talk to her.

This book acts as a catalogue of the collection, but unlike the previous small edition it also provides a great deal of social history and the style of the text and layout is clearly designed to appeal to non-quilters as much as quilters. Chapters are arranged under the following broad headings:

Quilting in the North of England The Quilters A Social Background Quilt Types Coverlets Patterns and Templates Fabric and Dyes Looking After Quilts and Coverlets Catalogue of Collections

and an appendix of Further Reading which lists every source I can think of.

Ms Allan has brought together information we have from earlier writings, clarified by what we have learnt since, and illustrated all this with examples from the collection and personal stories from the area. Because of the nature of the collection, with many items coming direct from the family, there is often an opportunity to attach social information to a quilt - who the quilter was, where and how they lived. We are used to this in American historical books, but it is a delightfully new experience in UK quilt history. As well as being a great picture book, this stands as a summation of quilting history the North-East, and by extension across the UK.

Illustrations in the book range through superbly executed new photographs of the collection (successfully photographing wholecloth quilts is an art in itself) and historic photographs and paintings of quilters, both individual and group, showing their working and living environment. The creative layout of the book is fascinating, with excellent detail shots included, and hand drawn illustrations which show in cartoon form how a pattern would have been executed from template to complete design. You can look at this book on two levels - it is a great coffee table quick scan, but if you actually study the pictures there is a great deal more you can work out for yourself. I think Ms Allan has been very clever here, she's given us a bit of a quilters' 'Where's Wally' to study <GG>.

At the end of the book, the entire collection is listed under category headings, with full accession information - something which will be invaluable to researchers wanting to track down something specific. A minor criticism is that it takes a bit of determination to link this information to a particular quilt illustrated in the book, and for some of the illustrations you have to read the text to identify the quilt, rather than it just being labelled. To identify a quilt you have to find its accession number in the text, and then trawl through all the entries to find that number. I would have really appreciated the inclusion of a page number against each catalogue entry. Quite often I wanted to know the size of a quilt I was looking at, and had to go through this process to find out. But that's just being picky, and you do get quicker at it the more you do it <G>. Also, if I'm being *really* picky, it would have been nice to have footnotes for some things in the text so that I could explore them further.

I'm sure that this will become the reference book of choice for all those City and Guilds students *doing quilt history*, and deservedly so. Whether you're new to UK quilt history or an old hand I'd say don't be put off by the price. If you need an argument for the finance committee, its cheaper than sourcing the out of print Averil Colby, Mavis FitzRandolph, Elizabeth Hake, Dorothy Osler et al. If you already have all those, I'd remind the committee that it contains new and fascinating information, and its great eye candy <G>.

The other new book is linked to a current exhibition of patchworks  made by Edrica Huws, a trained artist, beginning in the lat 1950s and 

continuing until her death in 1999 in the 91st year of her life.  These unique art patchworks have been recognised by an exhibition in  Japan, and this year's retrospective gathers nearly all of them  together for the first time. It is always hard, in the world of  textile art, to know who influences who, and what is just the result  of the zeitgeist of the time. It could be argued that Edrica had a  profound influence on the development of art quilting, but first you  have to establish just who saw her work and when. I think there is  an interesting study to be made here...

Anyway, this is how I reviewed the book. At the moment I can't  actually tell you how and where to get hold of it, the exhibition is  still continuing, but if anyone is interested contact me off list and 

I'll put you in touch with someone who can help.

Anyway, this is how I saw it.....

'Edrica Huws Patchworks'

I was lucky enough to receive a copy yesterday and was instantly spellbound. First of all, it is a wonderfully produced book, with great colour reproduction. As we've seen from pictures on the web, these artworks photograph really well, and to have pictures of such good quality is a blessing. I've even had my illuminated magnifier onto some of them without the effect turning into a pointilliste painting. I wish, I really wish I could get to see them in the flesh, but this is a brilliant substitute. Thanks must go to Val for alerting us, and the wider world, to these treasures and for her support in making the exhibition happen.

But more than just the pictures, the book contains important essays. The biography of Edrica, born in 1907 into an artistic family, is illuminating, showing us a fascinating and full life of art and family, brave decisions, independence and determination. I'm not going to outline the story, just tell you you *have* to read it. Then there is an essay by Edrica herself "Observations on the medium of patchwork". This is pure gold, and I marvel that it has survived to become available to us today. It is a wonderful treatise on art, patchwork, and design. If she were here today, and if she were so inclined, she would be as much in demand for teaching as the top names of today's art quilting. Finally we have our own Val Shield's contribution, on Edrica Huws's place in the history of patchwork. Again, pure gold, for in finding Edrica's place Val tells us - succinctly - much about the development of patchwork in the UK.

I'm going to revisit these essays again and again, and study the pictures, for there is much to be learnt here.

On the subject of fabrics, which I raised in an earlier post.....

Edrica apparently kept a scrap bag through many years of home sewing - clothes, curtains, soft furnishings - as well as having friends who knew to bring her contributions from their travels. It is that collection with personal history that I rue not having. But she also writes that, after experimenting, she found that cottons and linens were the most co-operative fabrics to work with, and if it was good enough for her its good enough for me - I'll stick to my prejudices.

The very first colour plate of the book kept me occupied for about an hour, torn between sticking with analysing it and rushing on to the rest of the book. A close up of tulips and background, there are over 50 fabrics in this detail picture completely covering two A4 pages. I can see cotton and linen prints, plains and stripes of a multitude of weights, weaves and dates, furnishing and dress weights, some used backside up to get a different effect, some showing evidence of their former life (the stitched hem of a curtain, or tablecloth perhaps?). There's even a sliver of a very open knitted fabric, maybe a dishcloth. I a picture which I am told is pretty much 

'actual size', you can see Edrica's enthusiastic stitching (her technique is described in detail in her essay).  Recently I've been viewing demonstrations on the online show 'The Quilt Show' with Ricky Tims and Alex Anderson. Most of the art quilters I have seen go to great lengths with templates, balance lines, bondaweb, etc. etc. to refine a plan to death and then execute it impeccably. There is a freedom in Edrica's work which I greatly admire. In her essay,  Edrica describes how she kept her fabric, sorted according to her own code ('pebble', 'stucco'), in plastic bags. Because she worked in shared family space she learnt to stow it all away at great speed and knew each piece as a friend.

If you are interested to see Edrica's work, there is a clip on  YouTube which goes rather fast, but which can be paused for examination

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v3DPNAecCVlhKI

There. Sorry to take up so much of your time. Normal service is now 

resumed....

Sally Ward

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Subject: Re: Two New books from the UK (long) From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 13:15:29 +0100 X-Message-Number: 3

Sorry, correction on price. The book is A325, not A330, that included   my postage.

Still, makes it even better value <G>

Sally W

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Subject: Home of the Brave Quilt Project From: Donald Beld <donbeldpacbell.net> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 06:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 4

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Thanks everyone for the recognition of the Home of the Brave Quilt Project. You can, of course, contact me at donbeldpacbell.net or the website run by the Iowa Coordinator, Sandi Carstensen, at www.homeofthebravequilts.com This grassroots movement--no funding, no cash contributions accepted--was begun by my home quilt group, Citrus Belt Quilters, in Redlands, California in August 04. In just three years, we have spread to almost all states, Great Britain, Australia, and Germany and have recognized the loss of approximately 2300 service personnel by giving their families one or more replica U.S. Sanitary Commission quilts from the Civil War.

It has been a tremendously moving and humbling experience for all involved. The families of the fallen are not only patriots, but also have grace and dignity that is hard to believe.

I have been very shocked at the recognition that project has received--I guess that when people give of themselves, they get back from others. Our effort has been the subject of a masters thesis at the University of Nebraska, written up in numerous newspaper accounts, on both local and national television; and willl be mentioned in a new quilting book coming out this fall called THE QUILT: A HISTORY AND CELEBRATION OF AN AMERICAN ART FORM by Elise Schebler Roberts.

But the real meanng is in the families. I have heard stories that make you cry. They are special people.

Best, Don

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Subject: RE: Two New books from the UK (long) From: "Dawn Sparlin" <nilrapsgmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 08:56:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

I thought that saying was "direktly" at least in Cornwall. Dawn

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Subject: mailing quilts From: ikwlt <ikwltyahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

<snip> Since the post office has changed the way it assesses postage, now charging by package size rather than weight, a bit of advice: roll quilts to be sent into small, tight rolls tied with a strip of fabric. The rolls can be packed densely, and they are more easily distributed to the wounded. Xenia

in recent times when i've sent quilts thru the mail, i have first rolled them tight and then put them in a heavy plastic bag. once inside that bag, i've used the hose to my vaccum cleaner to suck out the air and more tightly compact the quilt. think of those "space bags" that you can buy and use in the same fashion and you'll get the idea.

once it is all smooshed, i twist the opening and use packaging tape to hold it closed. i also tape the outside to keep it small, and immediately put it into the smallest box possible and tape that up before it can begin to release. patti

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Subject: Organ/tissue donation- quilt related From:

Kris wrote about her husband..."but he is dedicated to the number of people a simple organ harvest can help. One donation can help up to 80 people."

I came to know first-hand about the dedication of the people who work in this field and the importance of donation. My husband, who died suddenly last year, had indicated on his driver's license that he wished to be an organ donor. I had a phone call from a representative of the Washington Regional Transplant Consortium and answered lots of questions so that the process could begin. They were able to use skin, leg bones and Achilles tendons. The Consortium offers considers the family of each donor support for each donor family, followed up to offer support t, with much information on donating, on grieving, and offering support. But the surprise was when they solicited a quilt block from any donor family that wished to participate. From their website :

"In 1995 WRTC began the donor family quilt project as a way for families to be involved in something tangible concerning their loved ones and the gift of life they chose to make. Families were invited to create a quilt square to honor their loved ones. The project began in January of that year and by April 1995, three finished quilts were presented at the Donor Family Gathering. Today, donor families continue to send quilt squares as a way to honor their loved ones and in April 07 WRTC unveiled a eleventh quilt."

My block, which honored Richard's love of motorcycling (Hi, Stephanie, love Magnas!) was incorporated into the eleventh quilt. The picture of that quilt is not yet on the website but 9 quilts are there. Some blocks are simple, some sophisticated. The stories accompanying them tell of love and loss. But each block also represents the generosity -the gift of life - each loss___ .

The quilts are used to promote inform about organ donation. You can see the quilts at www.wrtc.org , click on Remembrance Quilts.

Anne Datko

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Subject: Mosaic Quilt From: Linda Laird <clproductsgmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 21:08:52 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1

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How soon will we be collecting these? http://youtube.com/watch?ve0JkHMRVhJA

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Subject: Re: Cloth swatches (getting long) From: mendofleuraol.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 01:24:55 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

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Wow Nancy!!!? What a find!!!? One searches for crumbs and ends up with delicacies.? Wish I lived closer so I could see these.? Such fun to discover such gems.? Congratulations!

My Best,

Phyllis

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Subject: Edrica Huws From: tracy jamar <tjamaroptonline.net> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 06:32:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

Sally,

Thank you for your book reviews and especially for the info about Edrica Huws! I came across another YouTube video that moved a bit slower and was a bit longer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?vU0qJB71- Rr0&NR1 If that doesn't work just type her name in the search box.

There is such life and for lack of another word "sparkle" in her pieces. I had the same feeling with her work as I did with some of the GB pieces, an honored thank you at seeing an intimate and personal expression of another's artistic essence. From a distance they are "Art" up close they become "human" and the combination is magical for me.

Thank you such a treat!

Tracy Jamar, NYC

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Subject: RE: qhl digest: August 17, 07 From: "Dorothy Osler" <doosler.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 12:44: +0100 X-Message-Number: 4

Having received a review copy of the new book on the Beamish Museum collection a week ago, can I endorse everything that Sally (Ward) has said about it. She has given you all a clear picture of the character (and weight!) of this superbly illustrated publication. Yes, it is costly but you will probably never again have an opportunity to obtain a book containing such a wealth of imagery relating to North Country quilting. Here are not just the quilts themselves but the period photographs, ephemera, places and people associated with this British regional tradition together with superb drawings of quilt designs - not individual patterns but overall designs using the characteristic patterns of northern England, so hard to reproduce well on paper not to mention fabric.

The book has been a long time in the gestation but it has been well worth the wait. And at the rate it was disappearing at the current Festival of Quilts in Birmingham (sold out by 11.0. a.m. yesterday, the second of four days), the print run will disappear fast. Sally has given the website details - I suggest you don't wait.

Dorothy Osler

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Subject: MANNHEIM From: "Judy Grow" 

Nothing from me. I do have one Christmas album.  Tunes from Carl Stamitz don't readily come to mind.

Judy Grow

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Subject: Two New books from the UK (long) From: Sally Ward 

I don't know if you have a saying like ours 'you wait ages for one  bus and then two turn up at once' ? This month has seen the  publication of two new books in the UK which I hope will be of  interest to you. Apologies to those of you who have read my reviews  on BQTHL, but I have been asked (honest I have) to repeat them in the 

US forum.

The one of most immediate interest, I guess, is the long-awaited new  publication from the Beamish Museum (http://www.beamish.org.uk/).  This will be familiar to many of you as an open-air museum for the  north of England, which covers many acres and is home to streets of  houses and cottages, mining gear, farms, shops, streets, trams...etc. 

etc. which have all been re-located from their original homes and are 

filled with the minutiae of daily life, including textiles. A  catalogue of the quilt collection has long been out of print, and we  have been waiting for a re-print or new publication. Now it has  arrived, and this is how I described it to the UK list:

'Quilts and Coverlets, The Beamish Collections' by Rosemary Allan

Order online from Beamish Museum, credit cards accepted (no  affiliation etc.). There is a link to the shop on this page http:// beamishcollections.com/. For some reason the shop link isn't working 

today (maybe eager quilters have crashed it<G>) but it worked for me  last week. Be patient.

The first thing that takes you aback about the book if, like me, you

are ordering 'on spec' is the price. A330 plus postage is way more

than we are used to forking out. But I'm glad I took the chance. What arrived (very promptly, ordered online from the Beamish Museum) is a large coffee-table type book. Softback, bigger than A4, it measures 9" x 11 1/2" x 5/8" thick and weighs in at slightly over 2 3/4lb. 7 pages on really heavy quality paper. If that sounds like 'never mind the quality, feel the width', I just mention it so that you know why you're forking out an additional A35 for the postage. And I should warn you that you need to sit at a table to read it, or else put a cushion on your knees <G>

Author Rosemary Allan is Senior Keeper of Beamish Museum, and - how I envy this - has spent the last 37 years working with the collection. She was fortunate enough to start her working life with the quilt collection while the families of many of the makers, and active quilters like Amy Emms, were still there to talk to her.

This book acts as a catalogue of the collection, but unlike the previous small edition it also provides a great deal of social history and the style of the text and layout is clearly designed to appeal to non-quilters as much as quilters. Chapters are arranged under the following broad headings:

Quilting in the North of England The Quilters A Social Background Quilt Types Coverlets Patterns and Templates Fabric and Dyes Looking After Quilts and Coverlets Catalogue of Collections

and an appendix of Further Reading which lists every source I can think of.

Ms Allan has brought together information we have from earlier writings, clarified by what we have learnt since, and illustrated all this with examples from the collection and personal stories from the area. Because of the nature of the collection, with many items coming direct from the family, there is often an opportunity to attach social information to a quilt - who the quilter was, where and how they lived. We are used to this in American historical books, but it is a delightfully new experience in UK quilt history. As well as being a great picture book, this stands as a summation of quilting history the North-East, and by extension across the UK.

Illustrations in the book range through superbly executed new photographs of the collection (successfully photographing wholecloth quilts is an art in itself) and historic photographs and paintings of quilters, both individual and group, showing their working and living environment. The creative layout of the book is fascinating, with excellent detail shots included, and hand drawn illustrations which show in cartoon form how a pattern would have been executed from template to complete design. You can look at this book on two levels - it is a great coffee table quick scan, but if you actually study the pictures there is a great deal more you can work out for yourself. I think Ms Allan has been very clever here, she's given us a bit of a quilters' 'Where's Wally' to study <GG>.

At the end of the book, the entire collection is listed under category headings, with full accession information - something which will be invaluable to researchers wanting to track down something specific. A minor criticism is that it takes a bit of determination to link this information to a particular quilt illustrated in the book, and for some of the illustrations you have to read the text to identify the quilt, rather than it just being labelled. To identify a quilt you have to find its accession number in the text, and then trawl through all the entries to find that number. I would have really appreciated the inclusion of a page number against each catalogue entry. Quite often I wanted to know the size of a quilt I was looking at, and had to go through this process to find out. But that's just being picky, and you do get quicker at it the more you do it <G>. Also, if I'm being *really* picky, it would have been nice to have footnotes for some things in the text so that I could explore them further.

I'm sure that this will become the reference book of choice for all those City and Guilds students *doing quilt history*, and deservedly so. Whether you're new to UK quilt history or an old hand I'd say don't be put off by the price. If you need an argument for the finance committee, its cheaper than sourcing the out of print Averil Colby, Mavis FitzRandolph, Elizabeth Hake, Dorothy Osler et al. If you already have all those, I'd remind the committee that it contains new and fascinating information, and its great eye candy <G>.

The other new book is linked to a current exhibition of patchworks  made by Edrica Huws, a trained artist, beginning in the lat 1950s and 

continuing until her death in 1999 in the 91st year of her life.  These unique art patchworks have been recognised by an exhibition in  Japan, and this year's retrospective gathers nearly all of them  together for the first time. It is always hard, in the world of  textile art, to know who influences who, and what is just the result  of the zeitgeist of the time. It could be argued that Edrica had a  profound influence on the development of art quilting, but first you  have to establish just who saw her work and when. I think there is  an interesting study to be made here...

Anyway, this is how I reviewed the book. At the moment I can't  actually tell you how and where to get hold of it, the exhibition is  still continuing, but if anyone is interested contact me off list and 

I'll put you in touch with someone who can help.

Anyway, this is how I saw it.....

'Edrica Huws Patchworks'

I was lucky enough to receive a copy yesterday and was instantly spellbound. First of all, it is a wonderfully produced book, with great colour reproduction. As we've seen from pictures on the web, these artworks photograph really well, and to have pictures of such good quality is a blessing. I've even had my illuminated magnifier onto some of them without the effect turning into a pointilliste painting. I wish, I really wish I could get to see them in the flesh, but this is a brilliant substitute. Thanks must go to Val for alerting us, and the wider world, to these treasures and for her support in making the exhibition happen.

But more than just the pictures, the book contains important essays. The biography of Edrica, born in 1907 into an artistic family, is illuminating, showing us a fascinating and full life of art and family, brave decisions, independence and determination. I'm not going to outline the story, just tell you you *have* to read it. Then there is an essay by Edrica herself "Observations on the medium of patchwork". This is pure gold, and I marvel that it has survived to become available to us today. It is a wonderful treatise on art, patchwork, and design. If she were here today, and if she were so inclined, she would be as much in demand for teaching as the top names of today's art quilting. Finally we have our own Val Shield's contribution, on Edrica Huws's place in the history of patchwork. Again, pure gold, for in finding Edrica's place Val tells us - succinctly - much about the development of patchwork in the UK.

I'm going to revisit these essays again and again, and study the pictures, for there is much to be learnt here.

On the subject of fabrics, which I raised in an earlier post.....

Edrica apparently kept a scrap bag through many years of home sewing - clothes, curtains, soft furnishings - as well as having friends who knew to bring her contributions from their travels. It is that collection with personal history that I rue not having. But she also writes that, after experimenting, she found that cottons and linens were the most co-operative fabrics to work with, and if it was good enough for her its good enough for me - I'll stick to my prejudices.

The very first colour plate of the book kept me occupied for about an hour, torn between sticking with analysing it and rushing on to the rest of the book. A close up of tulips and background, there are over 50 fabrics in this detail picture completely covering two A4 pages. I can see cotton and linen prints, plains and stripes of a multitude of weights, weaves and dates, furnishing and dress weights, some used backside up to get a different effect, some showing evidence of their former life (the stitched hem of a curtain, or tablecloth perhaps?). There's even a sliver of a very open knitted fabric, maybe a dishcloth. I a picture which I am told is pretty much 

'actual size', you can see Edrica's enthusiastic stitching (her technique is described in detail in her essay).  Recently I've been viewing demonstrations on the online show 'The Quilt Show' with Ricky Tims and Alex Anderson. Most of the art quilters I have seen go to great lengths with templates, balance lines, bondaweb, etc. etc. to refine a plan to death and then execute it impeccably. There is a freedom in Edrica's work which I greatly admire. In her essay,  Edrica describes how she kept her fabric, sorted according to her own code ('pebble', 'stucco'), in plastic bags. Because she worked in shared family space she learnt to stow it all away at great speed and knew each piece as a friend.

If you are interested to see Edrica's work, there is a clip on  YouTube which goes rather fast, but which can be paused for examination

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v3DPNAecCVlhKI

There. Sorry to take up so much of your time. Normal service is now 

resumed....

Sally Ward

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Subject: Re: Two New books from the UK (long) From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 13:15:29 +0100 X-Message-Number: 3

Sorry, correction on price. The book is A325, not A330, that included   my postage.

Still, makes it even better value <G>

Sally W

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Subject: Home of the Brave Quilt Project From: Donald Beld <donbeldpacbell.net> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 06:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 4

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Thanks everyone for the recognition of the Home of the Brave Quilt Project. You can, of course, contact me at donbeldpacbell.net or the website run by the Iowa Coordinator, Sandi Carstensen, at www.homeofthebravequilts.com This grassroots movement--no funding, no cash contributions accepted--was begun by my home quilt group, Citrus Belt Quilters, in Redlands, California in August 04. In just three years, we have spread to almost all states, Great Britain, Australia, and Germany and have recognized the loss of approximately 2300 service personnel by giving their families one or more replica U.S. Sanitary Commission quilts from the Civil War.

It has been a tremendously moving and humbling experience for all involved. The families of the fallen are not only patriots, but also have grace and dignity that is hard to believe.

I have been very shocked at the recognition that project has received--I guess that when people give of themselves, they get back from others. Our effort has been the subject of a masters thesis at the University of Nebraska, written up in numerous newspaper accounts, on both local and national television; and willl be mentioned in a new quilting book coming out this fall called THE QUILT: A HISTORY AND CELEBRATION OF AN AMERICAN ART FORM by Elise Schebler Roberts.

But the real meanng is in the families. I have heard stories that make you cry. They are special people.

Best, Don

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Subject: RE: Two New books from the UK (long) From: "Dawn Sparlin" <nilrapsgmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 08:56:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

I thought that saying was "direktly" at least in Cornwall. Dawn

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Subject: mailing quilts From: ikwlt <ikwltyahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

<snip> Since the post office has changed the way it assesses postage, now charging by package size rather than weight, a bit of advice: roll quilts to be sent into small, tight rolls tied with a strip of fabric. The rolls can be packed densely, and they are more easily distributed to the wounded. Xenia

in recent times when i've sent quilts thru the mail, i have first rolled them tight and then put them in a heavy plastic bag. once inside that bag, i've used the hose to my vaccum cleaner to suck out the air and more tightly compact the quilt. think of those "space bags" that you can buy and use in the same fashion and you'll get the idea.

once it is all smooshed, i twist the opening and use packaging tape to hold it closed. i also tape the outside to keep it small, and immediately put it into the smallest box possible and tape that up before it can begin to release. patti

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Subject: Organ/tissue donation- quilt related From: "Anne Datko" <datkoamsn.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 07 22:50:51 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

Kris wrote about her husband..."but he is dedicated to the number of people a simple organ harvest can help. One donation can help up to 80 people."

I came to know first-hand about the dedication of the people who work in this field and the importance of donation. My husband, who died suddenly

last year, had indicated on his driver's license that he wished to be an

organ donor. I had a phone call from a representative of the Washington Regional Transplant Consortium and answered lots of questions so that the process could begin. They were able to use skin, leg bones and Achilles tendons. The Consortium offers considers the family of each donor support for each donor family, followed up to offer support t, with much information on donating, on grieving, and offering support. But the surprise was when they solicited a quilt block from any donor family that wished to participate. From their website :

"In 1995 WRTC began the donor family quilt project as a way for families to be involved in something tangible concerning their loved ones and the gift of life they chose to make. Families were invited to create a quilt square to honor their loved ones. The project began in January of that year and by April 1995, three finished quilts were presented at the Donor Family Gathering. Today, donor families continue to send quilt squares as a way to honor their loved ones and in April 07 WRTC unveiled a eleventh quilt."

My block, which honored Richard's love of motorcycling (Hi, Stephanie, love Magnas!) was incorporated into the eleventh quilt. The picture of that quilt is not yet on the website but 9 quilts are there. Some blocks are simple, some sophisticated. The stories accompanying them tell of love and loss. But each block also represents the generosity -the gift of life - each loss___ .

The quilts are used to promote inform about organ donation. You can see the quilts at www.wrtc.org , click on Remembrance Quilts.

Anne Datko

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Subject: Re: Edrica Huws From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 14:52:50 +0100 X-Message-Number: 5

Thank You, Tracy, for the heads up on the revised film. Excellent.

Sally

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Subject: Organ donor apology From: "Anne Datko" <datkoamsn.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 09:56:47 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Late last night I drafted a post re organ donation. Thought I had put it in the "Drafts" folder for refinement this morning. Now I find that it has gone to the list, and some parts don't make sense... But, you get the idea, I think.

I encourage everyone to consider enrolling as a donor. The stories that recepients' and their families tell are inspiring beyond words.

Anne Datko

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Subject: Re: Organ donor apology From: "Lisa Evans" <kittencat3charter.net> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 10:10:33 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

I've carried an organ donor card for most of my adult life. It's far too important IMHO not to.

Lisa Evans

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Subject: Organ donor From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com> 

Another way for organ donations is through your living will.

Lisa Evans wrote: Ive carried an organ donor card for most of my adult life. It's far too important IMHO not to.

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Subject: Re: Organ donor From: "alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 11:53:31 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9

I still get the willies when I think of my mother. She did the donation thing two years ago and every so often the thought that parts of her still live crosses the mind. Creepy but good.

Alan

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Subject: Re: Organ/tissue donation- quilt related From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 07 22:17:50 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10

Dear Anne, How I admire you for thinking of others in the midst of your husband's death. What a wonderful thing to realize that our suffering can be enlisted for the good of others. Stephanie Whitson (who's husband of 28 years died after a cancer battle) >

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