Subject: restoration books
From: "Lonnie" <>

I was at a local shop yesterday and picked up a small book that's new to
Caring for Your Quilt by Hallye Bone, Kansas City Star, 2008

I haven't finished it yet but it seems to be written more for the
consumer than the professional, but I love to read anything on the
Lonnie Schlough


Subject: Time Span Quilts bibliography
From: Andi <>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:28:05 -0600
X-Message-Number: 3

I thought the bibliography from Time-Span Quilts (ISBN 0-89145-845-X) might
be of interest to this list and asked Becky if she would mind my sharing
this on QHL. She said please do. Introducing this bibliography in her book,
Becky Herdle included this note:

"Many of these references were prepared for and apply particularly to
quilts, but they contain a great deal of information that applies equally
well to old quilt tops. You will discover as you explore them, however, that
in many cases my philosophies and methods differ from those presented by the
various authors."


Brackman, Barbara. "Old Tops: To Quilt or Not?," Quilters Newsletter
Magazine, May 1986: pp. 26-27.
Brackman, Barbara. "Techniques for Quilting and Finishing Old Tops,"
Quilter's Newsletter Magazine, June 1986: pp. 20-21.
Hargrave, Harriet. "Care of Today's Quilts," Traditional Quiltworks, No. 3,
1989: pp. 47-48.
Hargrave, Harriet. Traditional Quiltworks, No. 27, 1993: p. 67.
McElderry, Shirley. "Repairing Older Quilts & Tops," American Quilter, Vol.
VIII, No. 1, Spring 1992: pp. 38-40.
Orlofsky, Patty. "Collector's Guide for the Care of Quilts in the Home,"
Textile Conservation Workshop, Main Street, South Salem, New York.
Phillippi, Barbara. "Pre-1940 Quilt Tops: Their Status and Fate in Western
New York State," Uncoverings 1990, Volume 11 of the Research Papers of the
American Quilt Study Group.
Slama, Edith. "Quilt Conservation: the Business of History," The
Professional Quilter Magazine, Feb. 1989: pp. 8-9.


Atkins, Jacqueline M., and Phyllis A. Tepper. New York Beauties. Dutton
Studio Books, 1992.
Brackman, Barbara. Clues in the Calico. EPM Publications, Inc., 1989.
Brackman, Barbara. Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns. American Quilter's
Society, 1993.
Hargrave, Harriet. Heirloom Machine Quilting. C & T Publishing, 1990.
Holstein, Jonathan. The Pieced Quilt, an American Design Tradition. Galahad
Books, 1973.
Joseph, Marjory L. Essentials of Textiles, 2nd Edition. Holt, Reinhart &
Winston, 1980.
Khin, Yvonne M. The Collector's Dictionary of Quilt Names & Patterns.
Acropolis Books LTD, 1980.
Martin, Nancy J. Pieces of the Past. That Patchwork Place, Inc., 1986.
McMorris, Penny. Crazy Quilt. E. P. Dutton, Inc., 1984.
Nephew, Sara. My Mother's Quilts. That Patchwork Place, Inc., 1988.
Puertes, Nancy O'Bryant. First Aid for Family Quilts. Moon over the Mountain
Publishing Co., 1986.
Waldvogel, Merikay. Soft Covers for Hard Times. Rutledge Hill Press, 1990.
Woodard, Thos. K. & Blanche Greenstein. Twentieth Century Quilts 1900-1950.
E. P. Dutton, 1988.

Andi in Paducah
Andi Reynolds
Executive Book Editor

American Quilter's Society
5801 Kentucky Dam Road
Paducah, KY 42003
(270) 898-7903, ext. 157
Web site:


Subject: child labor - textile history

Interesting child labor/textile history events in NC in 2008. Sorry I didn
't know about it when it was going on.

Lynn Lancaster Gorges
New Bern, NC


Subject: more southern textile info

These are additional sites that are of interest regarding southern textile
production. (I am doing some research on Alamance Plaids tonight. Came ac
ross these things that I thought some of you might like to see.)
3A25752C2A9609C94699FD7CF (plaid mills in the south)
story.html (Interesting document about the history of textiles, especially
in NC)

I am trying to find examples of plaids produced across the south that woul
d have been produced by the mills in the Southern Plaid Manufacturers Asso
ciation. I only know of the ones known as Alamance Plaids, but there have
to be many others.

Good night from rainy rainy rainy NC coast. We might float away soon......
Lynn Lancaster Gorges, New Bern, NC


Subject: Child labor photos
From: <>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 6:35:17 -0800
X-Message-Number: 1

There are many images of children working in the Cheney Silk Mill posted on Ebay right now. Do a search for Cheney silk and you will see them. They are coipes of the originals. sue
Sue Reich
Washington Depot, Connecticut


Subject: RE: child labor - textile history
From: "Vivien Sayre" <>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:01:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Hi Lynn,

These children look old before their time.



Subject: Re: child labor - textile history
From: Arden Shelton <>

Shorpy's pictures has many photos of Lewis Hine's child laborers. They are heartbreaking to look at. However, there are many charming ones too: here is my favorite Shorpy photo: Chillin' under the El..

Lewis W. Hine : children at work
Goldberg, Vicki.
Munchen ; New York : Prestel, 1999.

Kids at work : Lewis Hine and the crusade against child labor
Freedman, Russell.
New York : Clarion Books, c1994.
I subscribe to his RSS feed and receive photos like these in my blog reader.....arden

(Ms) Arden Shelton
Portland, OR

From: "" <>
To: Quilt History List <>
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 6:54:58 PM
Subject: [qhl] child labor - textile history

Interesting child labor/textile history events in NC in 2008. Sorry I didn't know about it when it was going on.

Lynn Lancaster Gorges
New Bern, NC


Subject: Child Labor
From: "Linda Heminway" <>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:32:19 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

If you want to see a glimpse of child labor in action, you really ought to
watch the BBC production, North and South.
(link provided just for reference so you can see what it is)
This very realistic portray of England's Industrial Revolution is quite
Here is the write up:
North & South is a splendid, four-hour adaptation of Elizabeth Gaskell's
19th century novel about an unlikely, and somewhat star-crossed, love
between a middle-class young woman from England's cultivated south and an
intemperate if misunderstood industrialist in a hardscrabble, northern city.
Daniela Denby-Ashe plays Margaret Hale, forthright and strong-willed
daughter of a former vicar (Tim Pigott-Smith) who relocates his family from
a pastoral village outside London to unforgiving, largely illiterate Milton,
a factory town where John Thornton (Richard Armitage) and his mother (Sinead
Cusack), survivors of poverty, rule their cotton mill with an iron hand.
Thornton befriends Margaret's father but incurs her wrath for his severity
with his workers. What she doesn't notice is Thornton's core sense of
responsibility for his employees' welfare. On the other hand, he
misinterprets some of Margaret's own actions and intentions. Equally
stubborn, the two drag out their obvious attraction over many painful months
and events.
North & South's two leads are both very good, though Armitage's brooding,
penetrating performance may very well be considered a classic one day. There
are other wonders in the cast: Cusack and Pigott-Smith are superb, and
Brendan Coyle is memorable as a firebrand union organizer who ultimately
becomes an ally to a softening Thornton. The miniseries script by Sandy
Welch is a persuasive mix of historical context and character study. Brian
Percival's direction is full of moments that linger in the imagination, such
as the winter-dream look of a busy cotton mill, with thousands of snowy
fibers floating in the air. --Tom Keogh

In once scene, a child of about 9 years old who is working in the mill is
sick and the mother of the man who owns the mill comes over and tells the
mother to send her home. She then indicated, "We'll keep her place if there
is another child at home that can come in to work, you have one hour". I
found that one scene to be depicting of what horrors a mother who had to
work and deal with a sick child must have faced. It was a pretty grim

The white cotton fluffing in the air during scenes in the mill does resemble
snow. In another scene, the main character Margaret is writing a letter to
her cousin near London and says, "I think I've seen hell, and it's white" as
she describes the sad circumstances of the people of the mill town, Milton,
in the North of England.

It's a wonderful film production and the images of the mill, mill workers
and whatnot are worth watching it for. Also, the period costume, the
brillian acting and accuracy are very well done.

Linda Heminway

Plaistow, NH


Subject: North & South
From: Sarah Hough <>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:56:03 -0600
X-Message-Number: 3

This film is available thru Netflix -- no affiliation, just use their service.



Subject: Free Quilt History Trunkshow Wednesday in Las Vegas
From: Sandra Starley <>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:09:35 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

To my quilt history friends in the Las Vegas area:

I will be in Las Vegas on Wednesday the 18th. I'm doing a free antique quilt history lecture/trunk show with about 35 quilts at the Las Vegas Quilters Guild.
A number of the quilts will be 1860's or earlier and several are 1830's or older. The guild meets at 6:00 p.m. at the W. Charleston Library, 6301 W. Charleston Blvd. I hope some of you can make it and say hello.

I will also be doing appraisals on Wednesday during the day at a local shop. If you are interested, the scheduling person is Ida and her number is 702-254-8711.

Sandra Starley
AQS Certified Quilt Appraiser
Moab, Utah

my antique and vintage quilts

my art quilts


Subject: African American needlework samplers
From: Karen Alexander <>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:09:51 -0800
X-Message-Number: 1

I found this website tonight. Though not directly related to quilts, I
thought it worth mentioning.

Quoting from the website <<...images of some of the samplers owned by the
Oblate Sisters. We believe it is the largest collection of 19th century
samplers worked by African American schoolgirls housed in one repository.>>

I wonder if there is any history in the archives of this school of the girls
being taught patchwork or quilting. Is anyone aware of anyone ever having
done any research into this possibility?

Karen Alexander

Subject: Question about signing quilts
From: Karen Powers <>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:23:41 -0800 (PST)

I'm Karen Powers and joined the QHL list in April and have enjoyed following the various discussions. I am hoping for some assistance in helping a family understand why a quilt was signed the way it is.

I have been asked to appraise a flyfoot/swastika quilt. The pieced blue and white blocks are set on point with white connecting blocks. Quilting in the flyfoot block is by the piece with double-row straight-line quilting in the solid white blocks. Backing was brought to front to form the very thin (3/16") binding.

What makes this quilt somewhat unusual is that on the front of the quilt in one corner approximately 8" in from the edges is the name "Jane Elliott" embroidered in black thread, set parallel to the side. The letters in this name are embroidered using a running stitch in a block style with a slight left-leaning slant and many of the letters are accented with a teardrop or small loop at the beginning and end of each letter. Very artistic! Under the name is the number "84", also embroidered in black thread.

On the opposite corner of the quilt, again about 8" in from the corner and parallel to the side, is the name "M. O. DeVoss", again embroidered in black thread. The letters are embroidered using a running stitch in a block letter style, however the letters are more upright and without the teardrop accents. There are no numbers under this name.

According to family records, M. O. DeVoss was working in Kansas in 1884, but returned to Ohio that year to marry. He was the second son in the family and became a traveling jeweler in the Ohio area. The DeVoss family have shown me pictures of M. O. Devoss with his horse-drawn jeweler wagon. While they are well-versed in their family geneology, they are stumped about the woman's name on the quilt.

Has anyone seen quilts signed or identified with only two names in opposite corners on the front? Given the quilt is blue and white with white quilting thread and the name embroidery is in black thread, is it likely the names were added later? The family is assuming the "84" refers to 1884, but the thin binding and double-row quilting may point to an earlier date.

Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide!
Karen Powers


Subject: Re: African American needlework samplers


Gloria Seaman Allen has done the primary research on the Oblate Sisters samplers and, as the link
at the bottom of the page shows, she continues to document Maryland samplers. She is also currently
looking for samplers from Washington D.C. and surrounds (Alexandria, VA, etc.). If y'all know of any
please contact her

I recently agreed to continue the Ohio sampler documentation program after the death of our project head and author
of our documentation book, Susie Studebaker. It will be several months before I can get a web page up because of
current quilt research - who knew- but I am actively documenting now. Contact me if you know of any Ohio or possible
Ohio samplers.
I would also like to add that we had a small Quaker-run school for freed children of slaves in rural Harveysburg,
Warren County, Ohio, that was ransacked more than twenty years ago. Samplers made by those children, some
of which may date from around 1800, were stolen. The current known instructresses names would be Wright or
Harvey and might be on the samplers. I am gathering a list of the students names to go on the proposed website in
the hope that we can recover some of the missing pieces.

TN has a wonderful site online and I have been contacted by at least two other states planning documentation programs.

Membership is still free at the Sampler Consortium and I am told their will be a discussion list there sometime soon.

Off to research. Thanks.



Subject: Re: Question about signing quilts
From: "Stephanie Grace Whitson" <>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:23:31 -0600
X-Message-Number: 5

If Jane Elliott had a hand in finishing the quilt and she was proud of her
work, I could see her wanting there to be no doubt who did the work. It
would be interesting to see if there was a Jane Elliott who "hired out" as a
seamstress in (town), Kansas in 1884. Census records would be a place to
start, and perhaps local city directors/newspapers (she might have
advertised her services as a seamstress). Perhaps cemetery records, too.
Looking for Jane Elliot could likely become a time-consuming effort, but
some preliminary forays might be rewarding. . . you never know. I've had
amazing things happen in local historical societies when I spoke a long-gone
woman's name. (The best being a curator who walked over to a shelf, pulled
down a loose-leaf notebook, and turned to a photo of the woman in questions
standing in front of her sod house.)

As to the narrow binding, again, that might have been Jane's way of doing
things if she took special pride in her work she would also be the kind of
women IMHO who does it "my way" no matter what was in vogue because she
would feel that was the right way to do it. To me that fits the personality
of a woman who would want her name in black embroidery on a blue and white
quilt. Strong personality. I WAS HERE is what it says to me. And the man's
name might be because that's who paid her to do the job so he wanted the
name on there almost like a laundry mark of sorts.

I'm obviously using my imagination to draw some conclusions but I think this
is the way quilt historians need to brainstorm when trying to answer a
question, so there's my brainstorming (based on years of reading/studying
pioneer women's histories). . . which could lead to years of research trying
to find out if any of it has a promise of truth to it.

I guess you can see why I landed in the world of historical fiction for a
day job. Still, I think the brainstorming has some merit as long as we don't
use it to promote things like the UGRR!!!!!

Stephanie Whitson


Subject: Re: who is Jane Elliott
From: Karen Alexander <>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:40 -0800
X-Message-Number: 1

If I were to speculate, I would speculate that Jane and M. O. DeVoss met
while he was a traveling salesman and that she fell madly in love and made
him a quilt and put both their names on it plus the year they met. The
question is, how did his family wind up with the quilt? <grin>

Karen in the Islands


Subject: Red Cross Museum Auction

Not affiliated but came across this information and thought to send it bec
ause they are
selling some Sanitary Commission related "stuff".

Also, check this interesting confederate flag and poem sewn into a later
quilt at the same
auction house. This opens to just the block with the flag.


Subject: Quilt connection to Ft Hood tragedy
From: Karen Alexander <>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:04:30 -0800
X-Message-Number: 1

A story for those who document quilts made for or by military folks.

Karen in the Islands


Subject: Breast Cancer awareness
From: <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 6:14:58 -0800
X-Message-Number: 2

Last night, I presented a quilt history talk to a guild here in Connecticut. The group was seething about the recent new recommendations on Breast cancer. As quilters, these women used "Quilt for a Cure" fabric for years, making quilts and elevating breast cancer awareness. (I made my first quilt with the specialty fabric about 8 years ago.) Some points that outraged them:
1. They all knew women who were under the age of 40 when they were first diagnosed with breast cancer. These women were often mothers with young families. Image the impact of delayed findings for these young families. How much less traumatic it is for a patient and family when cancer can be treated early.

2. Many in the guild were cancer survivors, themselves. With early treatment, they were healthy, functioning, contributing members of society.

3. Many had discovered lumps on their own breasts and were relieved to find that they were benign or were able to get the necessary treatment like a lumpectomy.

4. All thought the points presented by the commission about "saving lives but just not enough lives" to justify the costs - APPALLING !!!!!!!!! As one woman stated "If it is you, your mother, sister or daughter, no amount of money is enough."

As a health care worker, a quilter who has contributed to cancer awareness, and as a cancer survivor myself, I believe this is an unacceptable approach to medical care in our society. Our country currently professes excellent standards in the care of breast cancer. Now they are messing with pre and post-menopausal women who have worked hard to change perceptions and standards these past ten years.

I for one, do not want see our health care system step back in time 30 years, do you? I don't know what we can do about this except to call our Congressmen. I am certain there will be some great ideas provided by this group.
Outraged and puzzled in Connecticut! Sue Reich

Sue Reich
Washington Depot, Connecticut


Subject: Churchtown, Lancaster County, PA, antique quilt exhibit
From: Barb Garrett <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:32:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3

Good Morning All --

For those of you making long range plans to attend the new AQS quilt
show in Lancaster City, PA, in March 2010, I want to alert you to a
quilt show of antique quilts that you might want to put on your schedule.

In 2008, Historic Poole Forge, in Churchtown (route 23), PA, held their
first Quilts In The Mansion quilt show of antique quilts. We mounted
an exhibit of 54 quilts dating from 1858 to 1952. Planning is
currently going on for the 2010 edition --

Quilts In The Mansion II
A collection of antique quilts dating from the 1800s to 1950
Monday, March 22 thru Saturday, March 27, 2010
10 am to 5 pm daily
$5 admission

While the website has no information about the show, you can see a
picture of the mansion and get other information about the site --

Some teasers from the curator -- we have registered 41 quilts so far and
plan to have at least 50 on display -- these are privately owned quilts
-- some passed down through families, some from local collectors. In
addition to a nice assortment of PA German quilts, in their usual color
palette, there is a signed and dated 1859 (in cross stitch) turkey red
and green Oak Leaf and Reel quilt made by a Mennonite lady -- still in
the maker's family. Some interesting crazy quilts, a puff quilt, and
a beautiful wool challis log cabin quilt (small logs) are the newest
additions to our growing registration inventory.

For those who attended the first Quilts In The Mansion exhibit -- these
will be all different quilts. We will not be using any quilts from the
2008 registration.

I hope you can fit a visit to the mansion into your visit to Lancaster
County. We are located just down the road from Hayloft Fabrics, on the
way to either Zooks or Sauders, for anyone who visits those fabric
stores. Questions? -- feel free to email me.

Barb Garrett in southeastern PA

Disclaimer -- I do have a vested interested in there being good
attendance -- as the volunteer curator, I keep telling the Poole Forge
people that there are "lots" of people who enjoy viewing antique quilts.

PS -- Where else besides southeastern PA can you make one trip and see
so many exhibits of antique quilts -- Quilts At Poole Forge, a special
quilt exhibit at the Lancaster Quilt and Textile Museum (in addition to
their Amish quilt exhibit), and rotation 3 at the Chester County
Historical Society. I love living here.


Subject: Re: Breast Cancer awareness

I was also outraged at this latest report and feared it was an excuse to
let our insurance companies not cover mammograms for the 40-50 year old
The Susan G. Komen Foundation has this press release on it's official webs
ite: .

-Kathryn Herrmann in NC
Proudly walking in Atlanta's 2010 3-day.


Subject: FW: Breast Cancer
From: Cindy Claycamp <>

Subject: Breast Cancer
Date: Thu2C 19 Nov 2009 11:04:54 -0500

Amen to all your comments2CSue. I work in a cancer center as a certified fitter for ladies who have had breast cancer. I see young women in their 20's and 30's. I shudder to think that we would ever tell them or our daughter
s not to do self exams on a regular basis. We all know most lumps will not be cancer2Cbut to ignore them is ridiculous. My feeling is this study was
most likely sponsored by insurance companies trying to save money by not paying for tests. A few years ago Blue Cross had a press release in our local paper stating that their top 7 vice-presidents in Indiana would each receive a $5 million dollar bonus. That would buy a lot of mammograms. Cindy Claycamp


Subject: More on Breast Cancer awareness
From: <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:47:57 -0800
X-Message-Number: 6

The U.S. Preventive Services Tasks Force was mandated by Congress.
It is responsible for the new recommendations on Breast Cancer and it IS a government commission operating directly under The U.S. Department of Healt
h and Human Services with Kathleen Sebelius as director and the Secretary of Health. She just released this statement (sort of) contradicting the Ta
sks Force.
E2809CThere is no question that the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force Recommendations have caused a great deal of confusion and worry among women
and their families across this country. I want to address that confusion head on. The U.S. Preventive Task Force is an outside independent panel of d
octors and scientists who make recommendations. They do not set federal policy and they donE28099t determine what services are covered by the feder
al government.

E2809CThere has been debate in this country for years about the age at which routine screening mammograms should begin, and how often they should b
e given. The Task Force has presented some new evidence for consideration but our policies remain unchanged. Indeed, I would be very surprised if any
private insurance company changed its mammography coverage decisions as a result of this action.

E2809CWhat is clear is that there is a great need for more evidence, more research and more scientific innovation to help women prevent, detect, an
d fight breast cancer, the second leading cause of cancer deaths among women.

E2809CMy message to women is simple. Mammograms have always been an important life-saving tool in the fight against breast cancer and they still ar
e today. Keep doing what you have been doing for years -- talk to your doctor about your individual history, ask questions, and make the decision that
is right for you.E2809D

The main job of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) is as follows: The USPSTF recommendation statements present health care providers wit
h information about the evidence behind each recommendation, allowing clinicians to make informed decisions about implementation.*
This probably means that this group is also responsible for the governmentrecommendations for the standards and modalities of medical care for most
If you go to this site you will see the names of the Tasks Force.

All of the recommendations presented by this list have been great! Now to implement them.
sue reich

Sue Reich
Washington Depot, Connecticut


Subject: Re: Breast Cancer awareness
From: Mitzioakes <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:43:53 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7

Keep me on any lists that need names - I had a scare when in my 30s - turned out ok, but......and I don't care what some group suggests I will still go for my annual exam and I am almost 76.....
Mitzi Oakes from Vermont
Just a side note, I was named after my mother's best friend who died of breast cancer - she was 25 years old and mammograms were not even around in 1933.


Subject: My Bad!
From: Donald Beld <>

For years now I have been touting the Lincoln Memorial Shrine's Album Block
Sanitary Commissin quilt and have told many people that it consists of 4 b
y 7 rows of 10 inch blocks with 2 inch sashing.

But I was wrong.

I must confess that I have not seen the quilt in person since the early 200
0's and I guess another sign of old age senility has creeped in.

The actual quilt is 4 by 6 rows of 12 inch block with 2 inch sashing; but w
ithout sashing on the left side and bottom sides of the quilt. Sorry eve
ryone. Best, Don


Subject: Re: More on Breast Cancer awareness
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:27:06 EST
X-Message-Number: 9

In a message dated 11/19/2009 2:48:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes:

All of the recommendations presented by this list have been great!

Hi Sue,
Thank you for making everyone aware of this health issue. One of the
best ways to be heard is to write your senators and congressmen/women. I
have been writing and writing about my thoughts on the health care bill and
other issues, and I do think they pay attention when volumes of letters keep
coming in. Their jobs are on the line. So if everyone writes the letters
giving your thoughts/opinions on the matter, it will make a difference.
And it makes you feel less frustrated about not having a say in all the
proposed changes coming from Washington. So everyone, gets your letters written
and let's be heard!!!
Carol Grace


Subject: breast health and mammograms
From: Stephen Schreurs <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:39:28 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 10

I claim another word about this subject because so much quilt history is women's history, and as a nurse whose career was almost entirely in the fieldof women's health, I would like to suggest a few considerations before jumping on bandwagons on this subject. Sue Reich provided some additional information which is enlightening, as well.

One of the great sacred cow
s of the American medical system is that in which the doctor knows all, and
all things recommended by an MD ought to be paid for be insurance, whetherr not it has been shown to be of medical benefit. That idea still hangs on out there, despite large numbers of other kinds of smart people questioning its sometimes self-serving character.

Another, favored at times by large institutions and insurance companies, is that one can quantify benefit for everyone using the same formulas.

Somewhere in there, there has to be room for a dispassionate review of available data, an appreciation ofdiffering opinions, and room for critical thinking about how resources areto be spent. Though I am not an expert on this particular subject, nor am I a statistician, I can tell you about many days I have spent cooling heated tempers and fears due to changes in recommendations for everything from birthing practices to birth control and hormone replacement.

The analysis of data and the use of outcome criteria are key tools in honing in on
what amounts to useful tests and treatments, and those that are less useful. It should always be viewed as a continuing process - more data leads to more analysis and more refined recommendations, one hopes. Which is why the bandwagon is a poor place to thrash things out. When these decisions are seen to be political, or politicians try to use information like this politically, we suddenly have more heat than light, and no one benefits,really, from improved understanding of the data.

We have known for some time that mammography is the best screening tool we have for breast cancer. Given the number of my friends and family that have been affected bythis disease, we do not want to lose that tool for anyone who might benefit. On the other hand, we certainly need better tools!! The research MUST continue. Who exactly is at higher risk? Are there better ways to determine who should have early surveillance? How often should surveillance be undertaken? Is mammography the best screening for those between 40 and 50 at high risk? How can we be sure that everyone who needs screening gets it in a timely fashion?

Statistics CAN be misused, but theydon't have to be. Maybe the surveillance guidelines should be revised -we have become more sophisticated in lots of ways about lots of health problems. Maybe they should not be changed yet. But please, give the data a chance to speak for itself without assuming it is all about eliminating needed services.

And, it seems to me, the goal should be to use the health system resources in smart ways - so that people who need medical attention get the right treatment by the right people at the right time so that
we don't keep spinning our wheels with redundancy, missed opportunities, m
iscommunication, and failure to act at all.  Fondly, Susan0A


Subject: Re: Breast Cancer awareness
From: ag32040 <>

On Nov 19, 2009, at 2:43:53 PM, Mitzioakes <> wrote:

From: Mitzioakes <>
Subject: [qhl] Re: Breast Cancer awareness
Date: November 19, 2009 2:43:53 PM EST
To: "Quilt History List" <>
Keep me on any lists that need names - I had a scare when in my 30s - turn
ed out ok, but......and I don't care what some group suggests I will still
go for my annual exam and I am almost 76.....
Mitzi Oakes from Vermont
Just a side note, I was named after my mother's best friend who died of br
east cancer - she was 25 years old and mammograms were not even around in


Subject: RE: breast health and mammograms
From: Stephen Schreurs <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:51:05 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 13

Thank you for considering my remarks. Susan