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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:55 +1100 (EST) From: Li Joo Ng <lngbf.rmit.edu.au> To: Posting <QHLcuenet.com> Subject: QHL: antique quilts & Australia Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970101165049.17634B-100000otto.bf.rmit.edu.au> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I found Bev's posting about the history of Australia interesting too. Sorry, folks, that I didn't contribute like she did when I introduced myself to this list, even though I am from Melbourne, Australia. I am originally from Singapore / Malaysia, and I came to Melbourne to do my tertiary education nearly 4 years ago. I am still learning about Australia, and what a bonus it is to learn about USA too, on this list. I have always been interested in patchwork & quilting, but it was only after watching the movie "How to make an American quilt" that really prompted me to learn how to do it myself. Through reading from magazines, I learnt that USA has a very rich quilting history and I soon found out that there are people buying and selling antique quilts. I mentioned before that I have two quilts made by the same person. One is a Grandmother's Flower Garden quilt. The GFG blocks were beautifully appliqued onto a mauve background and there are about 2000 hexagons in the whole quilt. The other is an Improved 9-patch quilt and its colours are very striking, with reds, blues, whites, checks, etc. Both are in great condition and I bought them both in Australia. Initially, I only meant to buy the GFG quilt. But when I found out that the Improved 9-patch was made by the same person, I just had to get it too. They were made by a lady named Fannie Ellen Wilcox Michael, in the 1920s, in Tennessee, USA. I thought that since both quilts somehow managed to stay together and travel all the way from USA to Australia, I should keep them together. I wondered about Fannie Ellen Wilcox Michael. Judging from her name, she must have been married. I hope she is pleased that two of her quilts are together and will be loved and treasured. I wish my quilts could tell me what she was like and how many other quilts she made. Did anyone ever find out much about the quilt-maker when they bought quilts? I would like to hear if anyone managed to find an interesting story about the original maker of their quilts. LiJoo - from sunny Australia

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 06:26:28 -0500 From: Baglady111aol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: Quilt Find Message-ID: <970101062628_1391029052emout10.mail.aol.com> Are the donkeys piced and appliqued on?  Or it it like a cheater's cloth?  Already stamped on the background?  How very interesting?  Jane 

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 06:52:02 -0500 From: Baglady111aol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: dry-cleaning & moth-balls Message-ID: <970101065202_677766046emout19.mail.aol.com> LiJoo, if we cn find someone who is into herbs theycan tell us about herbs act as a repellent..we ahve a new business that started up in my town and I will contact her tomorrow and see if she can help..it's a little garden shop..I can recall years ago when all of a sudden a washcloth, towel, t-towel, would all of a sudden have a hole init..a 'ragged' hole..always thinkingit happened by something tearing it in the washer..now wasn't that dumb..NOTHING ELSE (see Debbie, I capitalize too) was torn..then when that happen to the quilt the lady told me it was silverfish..they ar atracted to anything damp..hence the items used in bathing..hence water..let's see what we can find out.I'm lary of mothballs or the cedar because cedar for one, has oil in it, doesn't it? They say not to store in a cedar chest because of the oil in cedar..like sap I guess in pine..other trees as well..and I'm guessing mothballs have chemicals in them..Jane

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 07:07:05 -0500 From: Baglady111aol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: antique quilts & Australia Message-ID: <970101070703_1324025935emout05.mail.aol.com> LiJoo, I have two members from TN and one is on-line and deeply invlved in research..she has written a wonderful book entitled 'SOFT COVERS for HARD TIMES'..there alone is a marvelous title..soft covers..hard times refers to the depression in our country back in the 20's early 30's..her name is MERIKAY WALDVOGEL and you can email her at QuiltAliveaol.com..it would be wonderful to know more about your quilts..I guess my pride and joy is a total feedsack quilt, a Dresden Plate, sashing in peach..several of the petals is SnowWhite and her Prince Charming, riding on his white steed, heading to the castle..what a pity that such a collectable was cut up..but how glorious it is living with me!!  Jane

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:37:11 +0800 From: woodnsplrma.edu (by way of Bev McGrath <bevmcgraiinet.net.au>) To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: Antique Quilts in Western Australia Message-Id: <199701011437.WAA04626grunge.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bev,       Yes, there was plenty of poverty in this country.  The farmers wives did work hard and it will always amaze me that they did find time to quilt but them some of that but certainly not all was of a sense of necessity.  My maternal born in 1891 couldn't have been poorer and raised 8 children.  Her quilts are pretty much utilitarian.  But she had a eye for what was attractive.  No matter how bad things were she always had some kind of curtain in the windows and potted plants.  My Mother says they were never hungry but at time especially at the end of winter the quality of their food wasn't so great.  I do have one tied quilt she made and it isn't bad at all.       On the other hand my paternal Grandmother born in 1864, while poor, had a higher standard of living.  She did not marry so early and only had 3 children spread out over 11 years.  She also worked hard but they did have more.  She absolutely loved quilting and her quilts are just wonderful.  Even her utility are well quilted though much plainer.       I don't believe there is any way to really connect the two countries.  The social system was so different.  I don't know but suspect that families lived closed to each other so were more able to help each other out and pass on ideas, trade fabrics, patterns etc. Ann in VA woodnsplrma.edu

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 09:17:26 CDT From: josiemtekstar.com To: bevmcgraiinet.net.au CC: QHLcuenet.com Subject: QHL: Our foremother quilters Message-Id: <199701011516.JAA14614perham> Those who speak of the abject poverty that our mothers, and grandmothers had to endure, and still they created quilts of beauty might be interested in this quote.  It came from an old QNM and is noted to be from "The Quilters: Women and Domestic Art":   "Sometimes you have no control over the way things are.  Hail     ruins the crops, or fire burns you out, and then you're given so     much to work with in a life, and you have to do the best you can     with what you got.  That's what piecing is.  The material is passed     on to you, or is all you can afford.  But the way you put them together     is your business.  You can put them in any order you like. Piecing is     orderly." I think of my own grandmother, who raised seven children, always in terrible poverty, an alcoholic husband who couldn't be depended upon. Or reading the life story of a Florida woman with the same situation in in the WPA/Library of Congress files.  Patchwork and piecing was the only thing that was truly their own, that they had some control over.  Life was so precarious for many of them, this was the one thing they owned! I think too, of women who were more well-off, but still were not given any real say-so in their lives, patchwork belonged to them and what they did with it was truly theirs. Does that apply to any of us today who quilt, I wonder? Jo in Minnesota

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 11:51:50 EST From: woodnsplrma.edu To: Li Joo Ng <lngbf.rmit.edu.au>, Posting <QHLcuenet.com> Subject: Re: QHL: dry-cleaning & moth-balls Message-Id: <199701011651.3543600rma.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Silver fish can be prevented by packing with Borax or boric acid in powder form but of course should not actually touch the quilt. Wishing everyone a very very happy new year.  Ann in VA

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:32:59 -0700 From: ayjonestacoma.nwrain.net (Yvonne Jones) To: QHLcue.com Subject: QHL: Renwick Gallery Message-Id: <v01520d01aef0450e675a[205.134.206.161]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just can't tell you how much I love this list. After trying several others, this list just fits like a glove!Thanks for all the good information. I was lucky enough to take a trip from Washington State to Washington D.C. last October.While there we saw the "Calico and Chintz: Antique Quilts from the Collection of Patricia S. Smith," on view through January 12, 1997 featuring rare and little-known American quilts dating from about 1790 to 1845.It is such a pleasure to see quilts in a gallery setting, treated with great respect.When we walked in, Patricia Smith was giving a lecture to the crowd. I think I missed most of it, and it was hard to hear.She did take questions, one man asked..."how much did you pay for your quilts?" She answered that many of them were very good prices and would be much much more if purchased today, she then said the quilt behind you (for example) I paid a price high enough to buy a car.There were NO photos allowed and they did not have anything you could purchase in the gift shop with pictures.But......6 of the quilts are pictured in the November issue of the Smithsonian magazine.It is so difficult to try to remember each and every quilt that I would be willing to purchase a book about the quilts and maybe Miss  Smith will tell about each one and how she came to purchase them. I had one thought about all this and perhaps why no photos were allowed, besides the obvious that flashes could damage the quilts.As a collector of antique quilts I feel that I want to control when and where my quilts will be shown, and copied. I think many of the Red and Green appliques are original and I will do a series to reproduce each quilt.I do want to share them and have thought of being a guest speaker at guilds. I have been gathering information that I think would be informative and not loose my audience.Some of my guild members ask me "please bring one of your antique quilts for show and tell". At one meeting I wasn't meant to hear a comment, one of the very fine quilters in the guild said "I would never want one of those old things". Also one of my very good friends just hates old quilts and can not understand me collecting them."Not everyone loves the old textiles, and some go as far as to make fun about them. As a quilter myself I just love to study the hand quilting.When I purchase an antique quilt I many at times buy it because of the hand quilting, very few quilters are willing to put that much time in on a project in todays fast pace.When I make a quilt the influence of the old quilts makes me say to myself "NOT ENOUGH QUILTING, DON'T BE LAZY!" I would like to throw out a question to antique quilt collectors, do you have your quilts appraised, and insured? Yvonne 

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 12:40:28 -0800 From: "Mimi Dietrich (quilterumbc.edu)" <mdietr1umbc.edu> To: QHLcuenet.com Subject: QHL: Smithsonian Quilts Message-ID: <32CACBBC.2D1Fumbc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Bet in Florida The Smithsonian quilts are in the Museum of American History. It's on the Mall in Washington DC near the Washington Monument. IT's a long white building. Go in and ask the information desk for a list of quilts on display. The last time I was there in early October they had a nice printed list with the location of the quilts. (This is a great improvement over other times when the info desk "didn't know"!) I hope the Grooms Quilt (or Benoni Pearce Album) is still on display. It's in a wonderful new display case donated by quilters! There were about 8 quilts on display then. Enjoy!

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 13:57:11 -0500 From: SadieRoseaol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: Our foremother quilters Message-ID: <970101135711_1324060451emout17.mail.aol.com> Happy New Year, everyone!!    Had my computer on when the new year turned, then ran down to my sewing room to stitch 2 quilt blocks....starting the year off right!!  (Yes, I spent the evening with the family, too).  RE: Jo's comments about "why they/we quilt" :  I agree that the need for personal expression and creativity is important, but I think that it is well documented that many of  our quilting foremother's also viewed their quilts as a way to leave something on this Earth to show that they were here "Remember Me".  So much of "women's work" is the kind that is "used up" (meals consumed, clean houses messed up again, etc).  Quilts were something they could do that "stayed done" - something they could look at and see a tangible item representing the time and love they put into it.  Yes, we can put love & time into cleaning, cooking, raising families, etc, but in the end, there isn't really anything to "show" for it.  In the past, as today, quilts are a connection with friends and family who are long distances apart, or who have passed on.  The Signature or Album quilt craze appears to have really gained momentum in the 1840-50's when many left the East Coast to start to settle the Midwest to West part of the US.  Many of these pioneers never saw the family back home again, and a quilt, especially one with signatures, was a strong connection.  Quilts also represented one area where a woman could feel "in control" as Jo mentioned.   So many of the things we take for granted today, decisions we can make, things we are now "allowed" to do, were not options for our foremothers.  That is one reason I feel very fortunate to be a quilter, living in 1997.  I can afford to take advantage of many opportunities - I live in a time where my contributions are valued - I live at a time when I can make a bed quilt or a smaller wall quilt, and not have to worry that my family will freeze!  Still, in the back of my mind, I hope that my quilts will outlast my days here, and remind someone of me in the future.   Here is a poignant verse inked on a quilt by "Mary  April 4th 1854 "       In the hours of calm reflection       In the hours of special glee       If thou shouldst in recollection       Think of any, think of me. This is taken from a book called "FORGET ME NOT - A Gallery of Friendship and Album Quilts" by Jane Bentley Kolter.  Will have to do a book review of this one later....   Now I am off to make potato soup (which will disappear, along with the time spent preparing it) and then stitch some quilt blocks....which won't disappear (at least, I hope not!!)   Happy Stitching in 1997!!     Karan 

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 13:46:32 -0500 From: "J. G. Row" <judygrowblast.net> To: "Quilt History Digest" <QHL-Digestcue.com> Subject: fiberglass screening Message-Id: <199701011947.OAA05614fireball.blast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with Jo from Minnesota about NOT using fibergalss anything near cotton fabrics.  I remember when my mother washed fiberglass draperies in the family washing machine.  For weeks after she did the next family wash we all had  a rash all over our bodies which even my father, a doctor, couldn't figure out.  My mother finally put 2 and 2 together and realized it was residue left in the washer from doing the draperies!  Running a couple of empty loads in the washer finally cleared out all the fiberglass shards that had been scratching us. Judy in NJ judygrowblast.net 

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:55:47 -0500 From: Baglady111aol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: dry-cleaning & moth-balls Message-ID: <970101145546_1458178617emout14.mail.aol.com> well, that was easy!!  Many thanx, Ann..that would me MY way..cause it is sooo easy..iif ANYONE still wants to fuss with herb repellent..let me know before I seek and search the info..Me, I'll go with the Borax..Jane 

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 15:06:08 -0800 From: Lynn and Debbie Cupp <lcupperols.com> To: QHLcue.com Subject: QHL: Re: Renwick Gallery Message-ID: <32CAEDE0.2B7Eerols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yvonne  wrote:  they did not have anything you could purchase in the gift shop with > pictures. I purchased a book called The Smithsonian Treasury American Quilts by Doris M. Bowman 1991 Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN 0-517-05952-5 It has over 50 color pictures of the quilts at the Smithsonian, including many album quilts, red and greens (my favorite), crazies, the Benoni Pearce quilt, the Copp quilt, and others.  It was on back order when I first called but they assured me it would be in within weeks and would ship to me when it arrived.  They delivered as promised and this is a very reasonably priced book (IMHO).  It was $12.99 plus shipping. Smithsonian Institution Press 1-800-782-4612 FAX 703-689-0660 PO Box 960 Herndon, VA 20172-0960 I am really enjoying everyone's "company" on the list. Debbie Cupp Virginia Beach Lcupperols.com

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:11:27 -0500 From: Baglady111aol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: Our foremother quilters Message-ID: <970101161125_843323800emout13.mail.aol.com> In concurring with SadieRose's post I would like to add:  In my area of the Blue Ridge Mts of VA..just as it was customary to go to your wedding with 12 quilts (11 utility and one best) you made a quilt for all of your loved ones so they would have something to remember you by..so that echos SadieRose's leaving something behind to show you were there..also, it was a way to express your creativity..women were not educated for many years and yet, they were mathemations, decorators, artists, color experts, and seamtresses..true, as the busy women of Australia, our homemakers were also..and often there quilts had to be easy pattterns, fast to make in order to replace the old..and they had to work with what they had..and in many instances, they didnt; even have scraps.  My d.inlaw's g.mother was one of 13 and reared 10 of her own..she worked the fields like any man. she dug the ground, planted, weeded, and reaped..she picked and worked from sun up to sun down.

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:15:33 -0500 From: Baglady111aol.com To: QHLcue.com Subject: Re: QHL: Our foremother quilters Message-ID: <970101161532_711369125emout09.mail.aol.com> WELL, hit that darn button again..msut seal it off..she was a proud woman and would often find a bag of scraps on your porch..and would use them in making clothes/quilts.  They were rather primative..but so cherished my her family..bless her heart, she lived to be 103..we use quilting today as an art..those who came before us jsut never realized how we would feel about they legacy they left for us..these elderly who are still with us are absolutely amazed as to what we hav to work with tool wise..fabrics..and PRICES!!  Jane

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 20:03:38 EST From: woodnsplrma.edu To: Posting <QHLcuenet.com> Subject: Re: QHL:  moth-balls and borax Message-Id: <199701020103.3584900rma.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       I have one more comment about storing quilts.  I said borax would ward off silverfish but in the years I have dealt with quilts I have found the worst damage from mice, especially in quilts stored in the attic.        I wonder what is the best way to discourage them.  I have read that mice do not like newspapers and if there were a layer of newspaper around what you stored they would leave it alone.  Again have a couple of layers of cotton or something nonacid between the quilts and the newspapers.  Does anyone know if this works or what does work? moth balls? they cause such a bad odor? ??? So many things to consider, maybe a safe would be better. ;-) Ah better yet have them out where all can see, use and enjoy. :) Ann in VA woodnsplrma.edu

Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:33:07 +0800

From: Susan Nixon <Desertskyworldnet.att.net>

Bev,

I was interested in the things you had to say about Australian history. I

think the difference may lie in the kinds of settlements and the places

being settled.

The earliest settlers came to the US because they wanted to. When they got

here, things were rough, but this was a rich land - rich in food, minerals,

furs, lucky in weather. I think your early settlers, though 100 years or

more later than ours, faced much worse problems. Jamestown, Virginia, was

settled in 1620, and many of the earliest settlers died, but more kept coming.

There are virtually no quilts from that time, for the same reason as

Australia. Any there were got used right up. There are more from the 1700s.

By Revolutionary days, around the last quarter of the 1700s, life was not so

harsh on the seaboard. Big cities had risen, like New York and Boston. Not

big like London, but big enough to provide a lot of the things besides

necessities.

In the south, there were slaves to do the worst of the farm work and white

women of means had plenty of time for quilting. Some of their house slaves

also quilted.

For a long time, northern quilts were pieced from smaller scraps and bed

linens, and southern quilts were more likely to be appliqued because the

white women had more time there. As industrialists developed in the north,

and a wealthier class grew there, in the 1800s, women there also began to do

applique.

Throughout the 1800s, quilts of all kinds were made. Lots of them were used

up, but there were more leisure class women, even in these "pioneer" days.

Many of the quilts hanging in museums from this time period are not from the

pioneer states, or if they are, were made back east or in California, before

pioneer treks began.

Our country was developed in stages, pretty much east to west, though

California was earlier than the rest of the west because of Spanish

exploration and shipping around South America. One generation would move to

the frontier and settle it, the next would move on again.

I don't think Australia was settled in quite that "orderly" a fashion, so

Australian pioneers had no time to stop and catch their breath, or to

develop the kind of leisure society we did. There's not a doubt in my mind

that Australian pioneers had a tougher time of it than ours did. Because of

the vast farm lands, good weather, and rainy seasons, our pioneers seldom

went hungry, even if they didn't have money. It sounds as though yours did.

I think a lot of our pioneers knew what to do, as well. As I understand it,

a lot of convicts were political prisoners, as well as criminals. Neither

knew how to be farmers, did they? I think that probably kept things from

starting off with quite as big a bang as they might have.

I had a quilting pen pal in Australia about 15-16 years ago. From all that

I'm hearing now, things are a lot easier for quilters these days than they

were then.

Thanks again for posting about Australia's pioneer times. I enjoyed reading it.

Susan in Sunny Phoenix, Arizona, USA

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 97 22:36:02 EST

From: "Bob Mills" <decisiontigger.jvnc.net

I'll be in Washington, DC later this month and will go to the

Smithsonian-American History Musuem, based on the good reviews here.

Regretfully, I won't be there on a DAR tour day.

Is there another museum in DC where I can see some quilts? Or maybe even an

area shop that sells antique quilts. My birthday is this month, and I might

just buy myself a present!

While driving thru the N. Carolina mountains last week, we saw a sign by the

roadside that read 'Appalachian Quilts.' My husband asked me how to tell an

Appalachian quilt from another regional quilt. Besides the obvious Amish

and old Baltimore quilts, I was stumped to explain, other than it was

probably patchwork. Is there a historically typical Appalachian quilt?

I hope that this is an appropriate question.

Jan (not Bob)

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:45:33 +0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettpo.fast.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Jan -

The DAR has quilts in their museum, which I assume is open normal nuseum type

hours. There also are a few quilts in some of their Period Rooms, which are

rooms named for a state and set up as a room of a house typical of that state.

I don't know if you must make special arrangements for these rooms or not, but

it might be worth a phone call at (202) 879-3241. I think our docent said we

would be seeing about 20 - 25 quilts in the museum and period rooms. These

quilts were really nice, also, and worth a visit I think. Hope this helps.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:14:07 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

Ann, I have put a mesg on the board at a garden site on the net..they are to

email me or QHL..we'll see if we can find out about the herb repellent..and

the boric acid is a fine idea..had forgotten that..Jane

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 06:50:25 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

I would like to add to books for fascinating reading from my small

collection:

TREASURES in the TRUNK by Mary Bywater Cross. Quilts of the Oregon Trail Rutledge Hill Pr (click on the picture to order.)

TO LOVE & TO CHERISH, Brides Remembered by Linda Otto Lipsett (she wrote REMEMBER ME, already listed) (click on the picture to order.)

LEGACY The Story of Talula Gilbert Bottoms and Her Quilts by Nancillu B.Burdick (her g.daughter) (click on the picture to order.)

Texas has LONE STARS a legacy of Texas Quilts, 1836-1936, by Karoline Patterson Bresenhan and Nancy O'Bryant Puentes (click on the picture to order.)

also Nebraska has NEBRASKA QUILTS & QUILTMAKERS by Pat Cox Crews & Ronald Naugle..(click on the picture to order.)

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:07:04 +1100 (EST)

From: Li Joo Ng <lngbf.rmit.edu.au

Thanks, Jane & Ann, for sharing information, tips and thoughts on

preventing silverfish and moths. I worry about anything that attack

quilts, so I appreciate your input.

Also, Jane, thanks for giving me Merikay Waldvogel's e-mail address. I

heard a lot about that great book of hers and plan to order a copy of it

for myself as soon as possible. It is very difficult to find such books in

Australia and the quickest way is actually to order through the internet

from USA. Do you think that Merikay could actually find out more about my

quilts? I am so excited about the prospect, though I am not raising my

hopes too high, as I can imagine how virtually impossible the task can be.

Does anyone own two quilts or more made by the same person? I am not

referring to those that you have inherited, but rather, those that you

purchased. It would be interesting to find out.

Jane, your Dresden Plate with Snow White sounds beautiful. I would love to

see a photo of it!

LiJoo - from sunny Australia

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Date: 02 Jan 97 09:36:02 EST

From: Rabbit Goody <75444.1037CompuServe.COM>

Think about this for a moment. Anything that has more than one layer and is

rolled, even over a large diameter roller will make the inside layer and

outside layer roll up slightly differently yes? so rolling quilts is not my

favorite idea. Also rolling is a more difficult task than folding. It takes

several people to roll and put paper in layers and is really unweldy if you need

to see the quilt quite often. Folding into as large a piece as possible allows

easier access with less problems. Storing a quilt flat on a supported tray is

the best but none of us can do that with out many dollars. I have done quite a

bit of mounting of coverlets and developed mounts for quilts which need to be

exhibited. But we all know that I am a radical and wait five minutes and

everything will change.

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Date: 02 Jan 97 09:36:06 EST

From: Rabbit Goody

Dont store quilts in the attic is the best and easiest solution. Newspaper is

not a great idea even removed from a quilt because of the acidity. Store things

where there arent many mice life house closets where things get opened and viewd

more often. Mice will nest in anything that appeals to them and a place where

things are disturbed on a regular basis is probably also better climate

controled

Rabbit

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Date: 02 Jan 97 09:36:05 EST

From: Rabbit Goody <75444.1037CompuServe.COM>

Fiberglass screening of today is completely different from fiberglass drapery

fabric of the 1950's and 1960's It is interesting that while you accept the

technology of the computer some of us are unwilling to look at how the textile

industry has made changes over time for the better. Not that every change is but

look at Nitrocellulose rayon and todays rayon .

the fiberglass screen for vacummin is really ok around textiles it is not spun

fiberglass but drawn fiberglass

Rabbit

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Date: 02 Jan 97 09:36:03 EST

From: Rabbit Goody <75444.1037CompuServe.COM>

To: "INTERNET:QHLcue.com" <QHLcue.com>

Subject: QHL: Re: End and PIck counts

Message-ID: <970102143603_75444.1037_FHQ37-3CompuServe.COM>

When we look at cloth we look at the yarns that were used in weaving in the

warp and in the filling. We want to know how many plies there are in the yarn ie

singles, 2 ply, 3 ply etc. We also want to know how dense the fabric is. how

many warp threads are in one inch called ends and how many filling threads are

in an inch called picks and then whether that varies throughout the piece or is

consistant. You see, when someone says it is hand made or machine made or home

spun or what ever we have real definate ways of figuring that out so that we can

say yes or no. We also can compare cloth woven at certain times and in certain

places. We also look at fiber content with the microscope and surface decoration

such as different printing techniques we know when certain technologies are

available and certain dyes so when we date things we have a real basis to do it.

Rabbit

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:09:49 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

If there is anyway Merikay can help you, she will. I'd be happy to send you

a photo..keep reminding me..I mean well, then I get busy..I'm not sure if my

Polaroid will pick up that petal or not..might be better to use 35mm..dont'

hesitate in reminding me..Jane

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:39:17 -0500

From: SadieRoseaol.com

Just received the Spring Program flyer from the DAR Museum. It all sounds

wonderful, which is very depressing as I am half way across the country from

there! So, if some of you closer by are able to attend these events, please

post and share with those of us who can't!! Date and time as given in

brochure, fee noted where given, resv req means you must call ahead and

reserve a spot.

Current Exhibit: Bound For the West: Women and Their Families on the Western

Trails

January

2nd (yes, today and we have already missed it....boo hoo) Winter Whites

A special quilt study tour of apprx. 25 all white quilts and embroidered

bed coverings.

26th 1:30 pm Women's Triumphs and Travails on the Oregon Trails (free;

resv req)

Jeanne Watson, scholar of the Westward movement, author and editor of "To

The Land of Gold and Wickedness- the 1848-1859 Diary of Lorena L. Hays" will

give a lecture on the experiences of women going West.

29th 12 noon Gallery Talk Curator's tour of the Bound for the West

exhibit with q&a

29th 1-2:30 pm Textile ID Clinic ($10 per item, resv req)

Bring in a quilt, coverlet or other pre-20th century textile item for

identification

February

6th 10:30 Quilt Study $15 resv req (no special theme given)

23rd 1:30-3:30pm Inspiration from 19th Century Brides $15, 2nd person

$10 resv req

Slide lecture and workshop by Alden O'Brien, curator of costumes, on the

evolution of 19th century wedding apparel. Also an up-close look at wedding

items from the DAR collection.

25th 10:30- 12 noon A DAR Museum Sampler: Schoolgirl Samplers & Silk

Embroideries from the Collection $15 resv req

View selected 18th and 19th century needleworks with Olive Graffam, curator

of collections, preview to an exhibit opening in Dec. 1997

26th Gallery Tour and Textile ID, see Jan 29 listing for info

March

2nd 1:30-3:00pm Treasures in the Trunk: Quilts of Westward Bound Women

(free, resv req) Lecture by Mary Bywater Cross, discussing quilts from her

book (of the amse title) which are included in the DAR exhibit "Bound for the

West". Book signing, following lecture.

16th 2-4pm Quilts of Provence (free, resv req)

Kathryn Berenson, author of a new book titled "Quilts of Provende" will

discuss French

needlework, and how it influenced European and American quilting traditions.

Book signing following lecture.

26th Gallery Tour and Textile ID (see Jan 29 for info)

There were also some programs listed for children, which I have not described

here. To make reservations (or maybe to request your own copy of the

brochure) call:

202-879-3241

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 14:09:30 PST

From: Sharon Harleman Tandy <harlemanmicron.net

Dear SadieRose, Thank you so much for the posting of shows at the DAR.

Problem: I'm almost tempted to ask you not to because I certainly can't get

there for the current displays, probably not ever! Boo Hoo, indeed! Sharon

in (warming but dreary Boise, ID)

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:13:53 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

Thyme is a good basic herbal pest repellant. It contains thymol, which

is one of the classic ingredients in repellants. If you can possibly get

your hands on back copies of "The Herb Companion" (a great magazine, by the

way), they've done a couple of articles on herbal repellants over the last

three or four years. If you can't get them, e-mail me, and I'll go back

through my copies and see if I can find something to copy and send to you.

Lee >>

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Forwarded message:

Subj: Re: Herbal pest repellants

Date: 97-01-02 15:07:37 EST

From: LMorgan923

To: Baglady111

Thyme is a good basic herbal pest repellant. It contains thymol, which

is one of the classic ingredients in repellants. If you can possibly get

your hands on back copies of "The Herb Companion" (a great magazine, by the

way), they've done a couple of articles on herbal repellants over the last

three or four years. If you can't get them, e-mail me, and I'll go back

through my copies and see if I can find something to copy and send to you.

Lee

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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 18:41:59 EST

From: woodnsplrma.edu

Li Joo.

I have two quilts by same person that I bought at auction. They were

both the pattern call Philadelphia Pavement. One was larger and the other

somewhat smaller with brighter colors. One was dated 1929 and a name

signed. I

don't remember the name at the moment but it is written down.

Funny thing happened. I took these quilts to a groups' quilt retreat

when one of the women at the retreat recognized the name. They had been

made in

West Virginia and I now also have the name of the town. The maker had been a

beautician and had taught the woman's mother to quilt. Sometimes its a small

world.

I am an antique dealer and I had intended to sell the quilts but because

I paid too much I still have them and I really am glad. Funny thing I never

did make money on quilts because I bought with my heart instead of my head.

Ann in Virginia

woodnsplrma.edu

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:10:04 -0700

From: ayjonestacoma.nwrain.net (Yvonne Jones)Yes, Yvonne did write:

they did not have anything you could purchase in the gift shop with pictures.

But the subject was about the Chintz and Calico quilts owned by Patricia S.

Smith, and I wanted to have pictures of them. There were no pictures for

sale of the quilts shown in this collection. But Yes! the Renwick has a

lovely gift shop with many quilt books, and quilt related items.

One of my favorite books is The Knopf Collectors' Guides to American

Antiques, QUILTS With Coverlets, Rugs & Samplers.Copywright 1982..I tell

you the date because some could consider the price guide to be "off", but

the pictures are great.The price on this paperback book is very reasonable

at $13.95  In this book they show a Donkey Quilt (didn't someone just ask about a

donkey quilt?)This is what it says: Although many collcetors consider quils

made from kits less interesting or imaginative than those with original

desigs, many women created unique pieces by making changes in the pattern

or by adding some touch of their own. The donkeys in the example

illustrated--possibly made in an election year by a product of a kit, Ect.

Ect.Dated 1930 Price range $1500 to 1800.

Yvonne

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:40:42 -0500

There is an herb repellent that works great for keeping bugs off of quilts.

It is called Artemisia. Place it in a cloth sack and keep it with your

quilts.

However, along with this, the best way to keep rodents, bugs, etc away from

your quilts is keep them in an area where they can be inspected frequently.

Rodent damage occurs when the little guy wants to make a nest. They tend to

make nests in dark areas where there is little to disturb them, like an

unused basement or attic. Try keeping the quilts inside a pillowcase, and in

an inside cupboard where they can be rotated. Keep your herb sack in there

as well. Inspect no less frequently than every other month while you

re-fold. (I know that rolling is better, but I don't have the room.) I have

kept quilts this way for years and years, and not had any damage, (yet). It

works for me! Also, inspect your quilts well when you buy them. Some of

them come in with bugs already. This will pass the little critters on to the

others in your collection. Look for small egg sacs or worse yet empty egg

sacs along folds and under the binding edge. Be careful where you buy your

quilts, they may look like a great deal in the bottom of that old cardboard

box at the garage sale, but beware! something could have been sharing the

box with that quilt for awhile. Look for signs of bugs before you buy.

Again Artemisia (the herb) is a wonderful bug repellent.

Debbie

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:59:33 -0500

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Donkey Quilt

Message-ID: <970103085932_1223686821emout03.mail.aol.com>

A quick scroll through my Incoming Mail file did not identify a message

about the donkey quilt blocks....but I know I read someone's post about them.

Found a picture of a Donkey quilt in "Twentieth Century Quilts 1900-1950"

by Thomas K. Woodward and Blanch Greenstein, (copyright 1988), pg. 100. Next

to it is an elephant quilt, both are pieced with 6 blocks in each quilt.

Here is the text below the photos:

" "Donkey" and "Elephant" Leavenworth, KS 1931, 1932. Made by Mrs.

Jameson, the Kansas Cirty Star, a popular pattern source for midwestern

quilters, published these patterns: Giddap, the Donkey, and Ararat, the

Elephant. SInce the maker was a Democrat, it is said that she made Giddap

slightly larger than Ararat, which she made for her Republican husband."

On page 101, there is an applique quilt with a donkey motif. The text

about this quilt states: "FDR's Election" 1936. In honor of FDR's

landslide victory against Al Landon, this quilt features the Democrat's

donkey..." (This quilt is from the collection of the FDR Library).

"Twentieth Century Quilts" is a very interesting book, focusing on more

recent quilt history...but as with much history...it needs to be recorded

now, as by the time you realize you need some information...it will be too

late to ask those who were living then.

"The Great Quilt Revival" of the 20's and 30's is one of the chapters, and

looking through the photos of quilts, it is easy to see the new directions

that quiltmaking took during this time period. (Just as it will probably be

said about the quilt revival we are taking part in today). Also, the change

in the fabrics, from the sober "mourning prints" of the turn of the century,

to the brighter florals we dub "'30's prints" which now are being reproduced

by companies such as Marcus Brothers.

"Soft Covers for Hard Times" which was also recently mentioned, is

another good book focusing on the century quilts.

TTFN, Karan from Iowa where we are having a melt down

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:05:00 -0500

Ann in Virginia said:

> I am an antique dealer and I had intended to sell the quilts but

>because

> I paid too much I still have them and I really am glad. Funny thing I never

>did make money on quilts because I bought with my heart instead of my head.

Funny you should mention that... I've often kicked myself after paying too

much for a quilt, but then later I almost ALWAYS kick myself for selling

it! :-)

And on the topic of having 2 quilts by the same person (other than family)

- several years ago I bought a pair of matching quilts from a dealer, who

said they came from Lancaster County. They're appliqued red & green Tulips

on a muslin ground - four large blocks on each quilt. The interesting

thing is, the appliques are pretty much identical, but the quilting is very

different when you compare the two pieces. One is quilted much more

heavily than the other, although the "other" one does copy the

medallion-type quilting motif that's in the empty spaces between blocks on

the first one (does this make sense?). My guess is that both TOPS may were

probably made by the same person, but the "other" one was quilted later by

someone else. The one with the heavier quilting (which I usually refer to

as the earlier quilt) has a few stains on it (not major), which to me adds

to its "personality." (Would I look that good if I were over 100 years

old? I DON'T THINK SO!!) :-)

Happy New Year, and happy hunting for that one perfect quilt....at the

perfect price!

Merry

gridgeesalgorithms.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:10:14 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

DEBBIE, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH..sound advise when buying and storing.I came

across several addresses for herbs for anyone interested in checking to see

if they carry anything such as the producet Debbie mentions..or you can go to

"fin" and tyupe in GARDEN SPOT..LOADS of avenues to explore..thanx again,

Debbie..Jane

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:12:38 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

I use a mixture of pennyroyal, wormwood and cedar shavings in my boxes of

old books. Silverfish LOVE old books. I'm sure the mixture would repel

moths also. What I'm NOT sure about is how you would protect the quilts from

the repellant. I don't think you'd want to just sprinkle it among the folds,

but I know nothing about storing fine fabrics. Cedar shavings are available

in small quantities from pet stores. Pennyroyal is Mentha pulegium, and

wormwood can be any of a number of Artemesias with strongly scented foliage.

Susan >>

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Forwarded message:

Subj: herb repellant

I use a mixture of pennyroyal, wormwood and cedar shavings in my boxes of old

books. Silverfish LOVE old books. I'm sure the mixture would repel moths

also. What I'm NOT sure about is how you would protect the quilts from the

repellant. I don't think you'd want to just sprinkle it among the folds, but

I know nothing about storing fine fabrics. Cedar shavings are available in

small quantities from pet stores. Pennyroyal is Mentha pulegium, and

wormwood can be any of a number of Artemesias with strongly scented foliage.

Susan

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:18:43 -0500

From: JQuiltaol.com

Last night, I lay in my bed reading "Legacy, The Story of Talula Gilbert

Bottoms and Her Quilts"...I finished it at 2:00 A.M...

This morning, after a half hour reverie, about Talula's life and quilts,... I

just couldn't bear to leave her life and enter mine...

I went into the kitchen and turned on the coffee maker... then spent 10

minutes luxuriating under the stream of hot water from the shower head in my

bath....I dressed...turned on the computer...went back to the kitchen and

drank an aromatic cup of coffee(hazelnut) and thought some more about Talula.

What had taken me 20 minutes, would have taken Talula the better part of an

hour..Cranking up the fire in the stove...hauling the water from an outside

well or pump...ginding coffee beans and then boiling the coffee, never mind

cooking cereal of some kind....And as far as a hot luxurious shower...Talula

didn't have electricity or water indoors until the 1930s...She was married in

1883 ...and had the first of her twelve children in 1886...

This haunting book tells us the life and times of the small cotton farmer in

Georgia and Alabama. What it was like to live in the wake of Sherman's

march..the devastation and starvation that occurred in the last days, and

then in the aftermath of the Civil War...

Talula lived a "God Centered", patriachial life....Still, she was able to

enjoy the separate economics or egg and chicken/duck money... which she used

buy the cotton calico fabric..The only fabric that she did not pick, card,

spin and weave into cloth.

Talula was neither poor neither nor rich. She and her family always owned

land (between 100 and 200 acres)..which they all worked together.....Most

women of those times buried one or more of their children, alongside many

other family members.....Death was not removed from daily living....People

lived and died at home....Most women were married young and had children from

the time they could until the time they couldn't...

Talula made 100s of quilts,none of them for a competiton or exhibit, some

for church raffles ..The blocks sewn by hand ..the binding stitched on by

machine....then turned and "sewn down" by hand.

Quilting, was what allowed Talula to live through the small joys and great

sorrows of her life.

All High School students should read one history of any "times" by an

historian... and one by a woman who lived through those same times...

Borrow, take out on loan, or buy this book, and I think you, too, will find

it as difficult as I did, to leave Talula and her families behind.

Bye, Bye Talula..I'll tell my granddaughter about you and pass your story on

to her..

Jean Laino

Jquiltaol.com

P.S. The colored photos of some of her many quilts are both beautiful and

inspiring..

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:22:10 -0500

From: RBCochranaol.com

Wanted to let everyone know that there is an excellent exhibition of approx

36 quilts from the Newark Museum's collection. It's on now through February

23, 1997. The museum hasn't had an exhibit of their quilts in about 8 years,

so it's a long time between glimpses. In addition, several of the quilts

(like the Emmeline Deane quilt, for instance) are in such fragile condition

that they can't be exhibited again.

I've gone to the museum only once for a quick visit, but since it's nearby

I'm sure I'll go again. Plus, a friend and fellow Garden State Quilters

guild member is the quilt artist in residence for the month of January. If

you're planning a trip to the New York metropolitan area, a side trip to

Newark would be worth it.

Rachel in NJ

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:37:49 -0500

From: RFKerraol.com

In a message dated 97-01-02 21:44:37 EST, you write:

<< Does anyone own two quilts or more made by the same person? I am not

referring to those that you have inherited, but rather, those that you

purchased. It would be interesting to find out.

>>

I have two quilts made by Abelonia Klein in 1924 and 1927. One is a pink and

white Hearts and Gizzards with exquisite quilting. The other is a beautiful

Grandmother's Flower Garden ----- lots of period scraps with a peach

scalloped border and again, perfect stitches. I purchased these in St Mary's,

Kansas a number of years ago from her neice who liked "diamonds on her

fingers far better than old quilts" (her words, not mine).

Mary Kerr

Pieced of Olde

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:17:59 -0500

From: RLHlink3aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #1

Message-ID: <970103131757_577475861emout07.mail.aol.com>

Good advice! I had never thought of inspecting old quilts etc "brought in"

for bugs, etc. The artemisia sounds like a good thing too. I can't use moth

balls because of extreme allergy to them, but also fell that they are not a

safe thing to use anyway.

Question for anyone: I have always kept by special textiles in a cedar chest,

never even considering that contact with the wood might not be a good idea.

After the conversations here, I am wondering about it. Should everything be

wrapped? I keep a special baby outfit from each of my kiddos, quilts and etc

in it. Probably need to be wrapped, huh?

Thanks.

Linda

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:23:06 +0800

From: balfourkechidna.id.au (Kath Balfour)

I heard part of a broadcast by a Sydney social historian specialising in

textiles on Radio National a few weeks ago (I wish I'd written down her

name!). She was discussing how the development of textile technology can

explain quite a lot about the history of any society.

She commented, 'People ask, for example, why are there no Amish quilts in

Australia. The answer is simple: there were no Amish.' She went on to

explain that it was all a matter of which skills were imported and by whom.

The 17th and 18th century American settlers brought agrarian skills which

included weaving and sewing. The people who settled the Australian colonies

much later, in the 19th century, were predominantly urban dwellers who did

not need these skills.

I hadn't heard that explanation before, but it does fit in with economic &

social explanations I have heard, such as

1) By the mid-19th century, America already had a flourishing completely

home-grown textile industry complete with slaves, cotton gin, weaving

mills, sewing machines, railroads. Australia was just being settled.

2) The US had a free enterprise system with a textile and steel

manufacturing base using internal natural resources. Australia's colonial

policy was not to develop local industry, but to sell raw materials to

Britain to support british manufacture. It took a long time for anything to

get here, and money was scarce.

3) In the US the local church was the social centre -- they held

communities together and were numerous and diverse. Quilting skills were

shared amongst women and passed on to girls through this conduit.

Australia was largely secular and this method for socialising was not

developed.

Was there a textile industry, who made the textiles and what did they make

also raises other questions. Were those American and immigrant girls and

women 'sweating' in the textile mills making quilts? Or was quilt making an

agrarian, or homesteaders enterprise? What about the 'genteel' Australian

settler and her needlework skills?

Anyway -- the history of women and women's endeavours has been too long

overlooked, and I love discussions like this!

Happy new year.

Cheers,

Kath Balfour

Yesteryear Quilts

37 Gibson St

Hilton WA 6163

AUSTRALIA

phone +619-335-6401; fax +619-336-4230

e-mail: balfourkechidna.id.au

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:31:07 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

My guess, Susan is a cloth bag of some kind to house the herbs. If I recall,

my friend made one and then put the bag in the storage box she used..I'm sure

that NOTHING is safe enough to actually come in contact with the fabric..or

even if it was..why take the chance..Thank you so much for your info..Jane

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:09:07 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.comWHAT A MAGNIFICENT REVIEW..As soon as I finish my "treasures in the trunk",

I'm going to re=read Talula's life again..Would you permit me to re-print

your review in my newsletter for THE FEEDSACK CLUB members? They would LOVE

IT!! JANE

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 97 18:13:58 EST

From: "Bob Mills" <decisiontigger.jvnc.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #1

Message-Id: <decision.1202720878Dtigger.jvnc.net>

RABBIT WRITES:

look at how the textile

industry has made changes over time for the better. Not that every change is but

look at Nitrocellulose rayon and todays rayon.

I'll bite. I just read in 'Clues in the Calico' that rayon has been around

for about 100 years-(which surprised me) but what are the differences? All

I know is it still shrinks. How can I identify old rayon from new rayon?

And thanks Jane for the book list. I'll be busy tomorrow at the library's

reserve computer.

Jan Drechsler in warm NJ where I just spent two hours outside in the

glorious warm 60 degree sun ripping out a caned back and seated rocker to

refinish and recane.

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:55:59 -0500 (EST)

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <QRSmail.albany.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Quilt History book list

Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970103185337.1d0f6520mail.albany.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This sounds like a wonderful idea! A lending library! I wouldn't mind

lending mine, either, I will put together a list. Perhaps I could post a

list a books the owners are willing to lend to the web page, along with a

the E-mail address of the owner, and the lendee's could contact the lendor's

directly. Does that sound good? We should probably come up with some

shipping rules, too - reimbursing the lendor, insurance, etc.

Kris

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:56:01 -0500 (EST)

From: "Connie Pollard (614) 593-1920" <POLLARDouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>

This is my first post to this list. By way of introduction, my name is Connie

Pollard, and I've been quilting for about six years. I have a historical

background so this list has been quite stimulating for me. I've been wondering

for some time if there was a more scholarly approach to quilts and quiltmaking

than I see in the popular quilt magazines and I'm glad to have finally found

it.

I prefer traditional quilts but also appreciate modern art quilts.

The reason I am posting is because I'm looking for a particular quilt/block

design that I've not seen anywhere. I'm not sure if it is a block, or a large

pieced medallion. It is called "Starkey Star". Oral tradition has it that a

woman in eastern Canada had such a quilt and that it was pieced in blue and

white. Starkey is one of our family names (my paternal grandmother was

Canadian) and I would love to make a quilt in this pattern for a favorite aunt

who has done a great deal of genealogical research into this branch of our

family.

If this is too vague I can try to get more information from my aunt about this

quilt.

Thanks in advance for any help. Please post to me privately at

cpollard1ohiou.edu.

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:52:43 -0500

From: QuiltLineaol.com

Linda,

Although cedar is well known for it's repellant properties, it is wood, and

the acids in any type of wood after time will have a reaction with your

textiles. What works well is using old pillow cases (100%cotton) as storage

bags. You can put your textiles into the pillow case, and then put it into

the chest, OR you can make storage bags of any size out of muslin, stitch

up the sides and bottom, put a drawstring around the top if you like and

voila - a bag. A small bag of this type can hold your herbs as well!

The same thing goes for displaying quilts on a qulit rack or shelf. If you

are not absolutely sure that the wooden item that the quilt (or other

textile) is on, has been thoroughly coated with polyurethane, then protect

the quilt from the wood by placing muslin or some safe barrier between the

wood and the quilt.

Debbie

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:44:31 -0500 (EST)

From: "Carol L. O'Neill" <coneillCapAccess.org>

To: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

Since seeing the 1830s quilt at the Renwick exhibit with Baptist Fan

quilting, which surprised me, I've learned from a friend who docents at

the DAR that they believe this quilting design was not used in the

Carolinas until the late 1800s. ... Neither of us can remember where that

quilt came from. Anyone going to the exhibit before it closes next week

(I think)? If so, could you get that info and send it to me? Thanks muchly!

--Carol in VA

(coneillcapaccess.org)

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:53:08 -0500 (EST)

From: Rob Holland <rhollandatlanta.com> 

Watch for a TBS broacast on the "No Two Alike" quilt exhibit. It is on a

program called "Interact America," and will be broadcast tomorrow, January 4.

Here in Atlanta it will be at 6:30 a.m., other times in other places, so

check your listings.

FYI, the web version of TVQ is posted at http://planetpatchwork.com/tvqmain/

The Acrobat version will be up in a few days.

Happy New Year to everybody!

Rob

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 01:31:05 -0500

From: RLHlink3aol.com

Debbie, thank you for your good advice. I can see that I will be into bag

making for awhile.

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:45:56 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: QHLcue.com

I was recently one of many quilters featured in a National Public Radio

interview. The program is called Quilts - Art with Heart. Two of my family

intergenerational quilt stories were used on the program and i was one of

four quilters who were given credit at the end of the program. If you can

get your NPR schedule from the internet you can see when this program will

be aired in your area.

My two stories are: the family coming together on vacation to make a quilt

in NC on vacation for my first grandchild who is now eight.

My great-grandmother in Michigan making a quilt from the blue chambray

shirts and pink pinafores that was finished for her youngest son to keep

him warm over half a century later when he was dying of congestive heart

failure.

Pat Cox and Helen Kelly are also interviewed on the program. Pat tells a

story of when her daughter was sick for two years and she gave up gardening

to quilt, and Helen talks about teacher her daughter to quilt again after

she lost her sight.

There are many other wonderful stories.

Jean Ann Eitel

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:00:37 +1100 (EST)

From: Li Joo Ng <lngbf.rmit.edu.auSusan, Ann, Debbie, Jane, Lee, Rabbit Goody (and if I missed out anyone,

sorry!) - I want to say a big THANK YOU for sharing so many tips on

repelling silverfish, moths, and other nasty little creatures, and also

information on how and where to store quilts. I don't know if I mentioned

this before, but I am going overseas for 7 weeks in a couple days and this

is the first time I am leaving my quilts! I can't help worrying for them -

I only just purchased them about 4 to 6 weeks ago. I am doing the best I

can for them before I leave.

Thanks to those who shared about owning 2 or more quilts made by the same

person. It was interesting to read about everyone's story on the purchase.

I absolutely love this list and everyone on it. My friend, Kath, told me

about this list about 2 weeks ago and I am so hooked to it! How can I

survive being away for 7 weeks without you guys!!

Before I sign off, I would like to find out if everyone pre-wash their

fabrics, before making a quilt? For those who pre-wash, how do you do it?

With cold or hot water, in detergent or salt & vinegar, by hand or

machine, etc, etc? And what are your personal reasons & opinions for

pre-washing the fabrics?

For those who do not pre-wash before use, what are your reasons? And do

you wash the completed eventually? And how can you be sure if the fabrics

are colourfast or not?

Personally, I always pre-wash in my machine with salt & vinegar. My

reasons are: Pre-washing pre-shrinks any fabrics that will shrink, so I

figured it stabilises all the different fabrics to be used. I use salt &

vinegar because the lady who first taught me how to make a quilt told me

that it sets the colours in the fabrics. And I use the machine simply

because I am too lazy to do it by hand.

I would love to hear what everyone has to say.

LiJoo - from a hot & sunny Australia, where temperatures range from about

30 to 45 degrees Celsius (don't know how to convert to Fahrenheit - sorry)

around the country at the moment

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 07:16:30 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: No more bugs!

Message-ID: <970104071629_37000595emout03.mail.aol.com>

LiJoo, you are most welcome.I learn alot to from the others..and now I have a

request. I have a friend who told me his wife is the proud owner of two

quilts when he saw my acid free quilt box and inquired as to 'what is it?'

he said they store their quitls in off season in a plastic bag..I was

appalled of course..I told him about plastic, etc. and he said, "well, it

CAME in plastic!!" he was amazed at the info I offered him but felt he'd

never remember all I told him..is there an printed page, leaflet, could

anyone post something on our forum we would be able to zerox for people who

inquiire about this? hand it to people who are amazed about this..as long as

we aren't mentioning any product by name, I can';e see where we would be

infringing..suggestions? offers?? Jane

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 07:26:52 -0500

Message-ID: <970104072651_70553117emout15.mail.aol.com>

would all who have requested sample squares of feedsacks please post to me

again with your names/addresses..painters came in yesterday and papers got

tossed helter skelter.going by memory (ha!) I have DRECHSLER, KASAITIS.going

out today..did I miss anyone? Jane

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 08:13:24 -0500

From: AJSNGSaol.com

Hi All,

Jane is right! She is currently lending me "Soft Covers for Hard Times" and

it is wonderful! It's also a book I would not have known existed if you all

had not mentioned it here. So thank you to all of you on this list (and of

course thanks to you Jane!).

Nancy in Virginia

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Rose Marie

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 09:33:14 -0500

From: "James M. Welch" <hawkcsionline.com>

To: qhlcue.com

Subject: QHL: new email address

Message-ID: <32CE6A2A.4833csionline.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As of this afternoon, I will have a new email address

debatqpsjuno.com

Hope I am sending this to the right place! My boys will have the old

one so if it still goes there because I am not sending it to the right

place, I can still get it tomorrow.

Thanks,

Debbie

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 08:59:47 -0600 (CST)

From: celmoreksu.edu

The donkey quilt patttern that several of you have been discussing might

be Kansas City Star Pattern no. 148. It's titled "Giddap", was first

published in 1931, and has a block measuring 19 1/2" x 22 1/2". This

information is in The Ultimate Illustrated Index to the Kansas City Star

Quilt Pattern Collection: Volume V Ilustrations of 1,068 Patterns. This

set of patterns was collected by the Central Oklahoma Quilters Guild,

Inc., P. O. Box 23916, Oklahoma City OK 73123. The copyright date is

1990. I only have Vol. 5 which is the index. Vol. 1-4 have copies of

the actural patterns. It is an excellent source for identifying quilt

patterns from states in the middle of the country because this was

a readily available pattern source for women in these states especially

during the 1920's - 1940's+. I have no idea if the set is still in

print, but I would assume the address of the Oklahoma guild which

produced it is still valid.

Carol Elmore

Manhattan, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 10:58:55 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: samples

Message-ID: <970104105854_1324502391emout08.mail.aol.com>

I am so pleased at the interest in feedsacks and it is our pleasure to send

you samples so that you can learn how to identify them..there have been

private email requests as well. If there are others who would like to

receive some sample squares, please send me a sase and they will be on their

way.

THE FEEDSACK CLUB

25 S STARR AVE #16

PITTSBURGH, PA 15202

DELIGHTED TO SEND THEM. Jane

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:52:19 +0100

From: Hougs <hougsworldnet.net>

Hello everyone,

We're all supposed to introduce ourselves when joining this list, and I

guess that it's time that I get it done.

I'm living in France, more precisely in Saint-Germain-en-Laye which is a

suburb 16 km (10 miles) west of the Eiffel tower in the heart of Paris -

so, for short, I usually refer to Paris as my town.

Living in Paris is, however, not synonymous with being French. Actually,

I'm a Dane and have been living in France for the last 8 - 9 years.

I've joined this list in particular for learning more about old quilts and

the history of quilts, which I find interesting. At this point in time, I

should be considered a greenhorn in these matters;-)

I am so fortunate to have a small quilt museum in a small village,

Barneville, 1.5 hours drive further to the west. The museum is called

"Musee du Patchwork et de la Courtepointe" and is situated next to a

quilting shop run by one of the finest quilters in France, Nadine Rogeret.

In the early 80'ies I visited family in the US, who were 3rd and 4th

generations of immigrants from Denmark, which triggered me to read about

the history of emigration in general, and from Denmark (and Europe) in

particular. I regrettably do not remember the source of information (book,

I guess) which told me that traditionally women were given fabrics as

departure gifts to keep them occupied during the long voyages to the New

World and/or Australia. Often these women made quilts.

I wonder if any of you can confirm this.

In a French book on quilting "Le patchwork - ou la desobeissance" from

SYROS 1993 I found the following citation, which I'd like to share with you

(in my own translation):

"In a French poem of the 13th century 'Les lais del Desire' (~ Desire's

brief poem') the heroine, protected by the fairies, lies outstretched on a

bed, where the courtepointe (kind of quilt) is made of two pieces of rich

silk with a border which shows the new flowers..."

I found it nice.

If any of you would like to know which kind of quilts I make, you are most

welcome to visit our home page.

Inge.

hougsworldnet.net

http://www.worldnet.net/~hougs

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:35:17 -0500

From: AJSNGSaol.com

I'm currently reading "Soft Covers for Hard Times" and loving it. Next I'd

like to read about women going west and the quilts they made enroute.

Someone mentioned such a book, but I couldn't remember if it was the book

about the Oregon Trail, or another one. If anyone happens to know a title

that is about women going west, please e-mail the list, or you can e-mail me

privately.

Many thanks,

Nancy in Virginia where it is sunny and 75 degrees!

AJSNGSaol.com

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:03:11 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

It is TREASURES in the TRUNK and is about quilting on the Oregon

Trail..wonderful book..and teh NE book is the state book with

history/bios/quilt pictures..the typical state book.both came from my list.

Jane

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