Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:54:08 -0700

From: ayjonestacoma.nwrain.net (Yvonne Jones)

To: 

Dear quilt friends,

I went to In The Beginning today, it is a quilt store in Seattle. There is

a display of the owners Red and Green Applique Quilts, plus a wonderful

antique Ocean Waves quilt. I'm not sure how long the quilts will be up, I

was told they were part of the Christmas display.I would call them first as

I did. I am happy to report how nice they were when I asked if they minded

if I took pictures of the quilts. Absolutely was the responce! Wow! I sent

DH running back to the car for the camera.Sorry to all of you that live so

far away, but I appreciated being told about the display, so just maybe I

will inform a Washington State QHL member and make their day.

Happy quilting to you!

Yvonne

QUILT-R

ayjonestacoma.nwrain.net

The Quilt-R :)

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:25:02 -0800

From: Chris Smith <csmithmail.coos.or.us>

To: 

Please someone, let me know what I missed. We went to San Diego, CA for

Christmas and left the day after. Weren't able to go the the Visions Quilt

Exhibit there because of their hours (or lack of) so decided to find out

where the Amish Exhibit was in Los Angeles and stop there on the way home.

However, DH got really paranoid driving in all the LA traffic (can't blame

him a bit - we live in a town of about 4,000 people) so we never did make

the exhibit. Can someone please tell me what I missed? I love Amish quilts

and would have dearly loved to see them "up close and personal", so to

speak, instead of in books.

Chris Smith (csmithmail.coos.or.us)

Coquille, Oregon

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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:54:20 EST

From: debatqpsjuno.com (Deborah A Welch)

To: 

You can reach Ami Simms by calling her at 1-800-278-4824. I don't

remember any thimbles on her order form tho . . .

Debbie in NJ

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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:50:40 -0800 (PST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

To: 

To Chris Smith--Since this is my neck of the woods I should be informed but

I'm sorry to say that I did not make the Amish show at LACMA.in spite of

everybody hounding me to. I just couldn't get away. But I heard it was

fantastic. I did spend a lot of time in the Visions show in S.D. My

miniatures and antique blocks are in the Gift Shop there. That show closes

the end of this month and is a beautiful show of "art quilts" with I think

about 80 entries. You can see some of the samples on David Walker's home

page.(kris has his site on her site referrals) Too bad you just didn't hang

around Balboa Park...there is so much to do thereand almost always wonderful

exhibits. I checked LACountyMuseumofArt has a home page:

http:www.lacma.org. btw your DH is right, that's the lousiest drive in the

world so you didn't miss anything there.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:34:43

From: "MARY PERSYN" <MPERSYNwesemann.valpo.edu>

To: 

Last week I posted a question asking for help in identifying some

fabric in a honeycomb quilt that a guild member had recently

purchased. Well, it's been identified.

The part of the fabric that we could see the most of has

HAVEPEACELETU on it. Turns out it is campaign fabric from the 1872

presidential campaign of U.S. Grant and Henry Wilson and it does say

LETUSHAVEPEACE over and over.

How did I identify it? Following a suggestion, I looked at Julie

Powell's article on campaign fabrics in ON THE CUTTING EDGE: Textile

Collectors, Collections, and Traditions, by Jeannette Lasansky,

(Lewisburg, PA: Oral Traditions Project of Union County, 1994). On

page 29 in Julie's article is a picture of THE fabric! Talk about

serendipity. Of all the campaign fabric, Julie chose to use as

illustrations pictures of the fabrics from the Grant campaign of 1872.

When I told Jan (the quilt's owner) that I'd identified the fabric

(luckily she also owns the book), she asked how I knew to look there.

When I told her from a response on QHL, she said "I've been telling

my husband we need to get a computer."

Thanks to the lurker who put me onto the answer.

Now that I'm able to send e-mail again (we've been having some MAJOR

computer problems), I also want to comment on the Calicos and Chintz

exhibit that is ending today at the Renwick. It was absolutely

spectacular. I can't wait for the book to finally come out (maybe

around April 1).

Following up on a thread of several weeks back about Grace McCance

Snyder and her book, NO TIME ON MY HANDS . . . . When NQA was in

Lincoln, Nebraska in 1991, the local arrangement folks talked various

organizations around the state into have a "500 mile quilt show."

Museums, etc. mounted shows during the time period of NQA in various

cities and towns along I-80 across Nebraska. (I had a Wyoming

quilter tell me that it was the first time she'd enjoyed the drive

across Nebraska).

Anyway, at North Platte, Neb, at the Buffalo Bill Ranch they had an

exhibit of Grace McCance Snyder's quilts. The evening we were there

Nellie Snyder Yost was "holding court" on the second floor. We had a

wonderful time talking with her about her mother and the quilts. The

quilts are just incredible. The Nebraska Museum on the Univ. of

Nebraska-Lincoln campus owns the quilt with the design that came from

the dishes. It was on display the last time I was there.

Nellie Snyder Yost has died since that exhibit in 1991. I wonder

where all of Grace's quilts are now?

Sorry for all the bandwidth. It's just so nice to be able to send e-

mail again. (I could read it, but not reply. Very frustrating).

Mary

Mary G. Persyn mpersynwesemann.valpo.edu

Law Librarian (219) 465-7838

School of Law Library FAX: (219) 465-7917

Valparaiso University

Valparaiso, IN 46383

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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 97 16:41:33 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net

The Zimmerli Art Museum at Rutgers University in New Brunswick is open

Tues.-Fri. from 10a.m. to 4:30 p.m.; Sat-Sun. noon to 5 p.m. It is at the

corner of George and Hamiltn Sts. I got very good directions from a human

being when I called (908) 932-7237. There is a small parking lot or park on

the street.

The Newark Museum is open Wed.-Sun. noon to 5 p.m. The Museum is at 49

Washington St. I got very poor directions from a recording when I called

(201) 596-6550. I know they were bad directions because we got lost (G).

We found the Museum on our own without too much trouble. There is a parking

lot adjacent which charges $4.75 per day.

Admission to both exhibits is free and let me say again they are wonderful.

Hope lots of you can get there; it only takes about half an hour to get from

New Brunswick to Newark (this does not count getting lost).

Cinda in Scranton

-------------------------------------

Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:02:59 +0000

From: Rayna Gillman <RG2worldnet.att.net>

To: 

Linda, I'm delighted to hear that you visited both of these exhibits --

aren't they wonderful?? Too bad you didn't get to meet Lois Griffin, the

artist-in-residence at Newark this month. (Lois, did you hear this?? Nobody

there seemed to know about you??!!) She's working upstairs in the studio

and has the most fabulous quilts-in-progress: her Brooklyn Bridge series.

Lois also gave a great slide show/lecture (plus "show & tell") at the museum

last Thursday.

Anybody else out there -- both exhibits are a trip!

Rayna Gillman in NJ

RG2worldnet.att.net

Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:51:05 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: 

Hi All!

o.k ,here goes my Bio-My name is Hiranya Loder and I am 35 year young.I

originally came to Australia from Sri Lanka in 1973 when the Socialists

were pushing for power.

As my family are from the "old" world and were pro-British plus

Christians,and my parents didnt care a hoot for running after the

favoured political types-our lives were in danger.Hence for the sake of

their children-my parents left their tropical paradise with all their

luxuries,servants etc and came to yet another paradise.

Australia is home to us-a beautiful country of great contrasts in

people,landscape,cultures etc.My teenage years were greatly influenced by

Australian culture-which kept my parents on their toes!!! At University

where I majored in Industrial Relations,Sociology,

Anthropology and French I met My DH John(a Scotsman) who is an Electrical

Engineer.

He is a wonderful man who is usually very patient with my quilting and

bookworm habits.

We have been married for 12 wonderful years,though it feels much

less-even with all the

catastrophies that have touched our lives.We have a 9 year old son John

Frederick who is

going on 90 and a 20 month old daughter Anika who is also known as

typhoon for the mayhem she brings to our alrady chaotic household.I have

a small buisiness at home named Quilting Treasures of Old,selling

antique and old quilts,tops and blocks.Besides

reading Sci-Fi,Histories of different cultures,books on nature etc my

passion is quilting

and all aspects of it.I adore red and green applique,crib quilts and

quilts with nature

themes.All this makes it very hard to be a good buisiness woman as I want

to keep everything I buy!!However my DH can be a BH by putting a stop to

this due to a trifle such as the economics!!

We live in Parramatta-a city in Sydney which was a frontier town where

experimentation with crops and stock saved the feeble new colony from

starvation.Here the first wheat was harvested and the wool industry was

nurtured. Parramatta-the Aboriginal word meaning

"head of the river" greatly influenced Australian history.

Quilts that are unique to Australian history,besides the famouse one made

on the ship

Raj;are Waggas.This name is derived from the country city

Wagga,Wagga-where quilts were made from discarded fabric such as cut

down clothes and flour bags.

I think I have yakked long enough! I'll tell you guys more about flour

sacks here next time.

Thank you to all you lovely people for sharing all your knowledge and

yourselves-you

make my life richer with your presence.Big Hug to Kris for starting this

list :>

So bye for now-

Hiranya Loder

Quilting Treasures of Old

e-mail nomad1ibm.ne

phone:(02)9630-5839

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 05:06:58 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: 

Hi all you lovely people,

My DH has been complaining loudly of general neglect,the children are

running amok,our lovely dog a Labradoodle named Boots is rioting and no

wife in bed even by 1a.m-all because she is at the computer reading all

what you guys say etc.Hence the huge computer bill etc.

So,I have found the perfect solution that I thought might help you guys

as well.I print out

the lists and I carry them with me wherever I go.At every opportunity I

am reading,while

my husband drives I read or sew,I read in the garden while keeping an eye

on my 20 month old.I manage to stop her drinking from the bird bath and

dog bowl most of the time,

if I manage to tear myself away from what you guys are saying.

Also DH has found a way to cut down on line time-you guys probably are

not computer

illiterate like me-but just in case I thought this might help you too.

We download all mail in the morning then go offline.Compose all letters

offline-hence

interruptions are not costly;also people can actually get you on the

phone.At night download again and then send all mail in one hit-takes

about 2-5 minuites!!

Bye for now

Hiranya from Sydney Australia

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:35:30 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: 

Mary, thanks for this valuable information. I am trying to learn about a

very unusual fabric in an antique quilt that i discovered recently. I am

going to see if i can find this book, or at least something like it. I just

wish public libraries carried more of these books. but at least, by living

in Atlanta, i can try some university libraries.

>

>How did I identify it? Following a suggestion, I looked at Julie

>Powell's article on campaign fabrics in ON THE CUTTING EDGE: Textile

>Collectors, Collections, and Traditions, by Jeannette Lasansky,

>(Lewisburg, PA: Oral Traditions Project of Union County, 1994). On

>page 29 in Julie's article is a picture of THE fabric! Talk about

>serendipity. Of all the campaign fabric, Julie chose to use as

>illustrations pictures of the fabrics from the Grant campaign of 1872.

>

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:43:23 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: 

Dear All,

First of all an apology for the weird way my mail printed-I'm still

trying to learn all about this wretched machine.I think I'm a closet

Amish as I think we are too dependant on instant results brought about by

Man's inventions.Mind you, I would not give up some of these gadgets

however,-like e-mail for one!

Carol in VA-Thanks for your lovely mail.Yes,many Aussies use wool for

batting and for stuffing.Besides being home grown and produced,wool has

many qualities to promote it.For example it is a natural,durable fibre

that retains it's shape in the quilt due to it's natural crimp.A small

percentage of Polyester is blended to prevent bearding.The battings are

also sanitised and treated for dust mites,easy care due to shrink

resistent treatment and is washable in warm water.Last but not least it

is also fire resistant,non flammable and self extinguishing;besides

having excellent insulating qualities.

Other battings like cotton and Polyester are also used-like everywhere

else it depends on the quilter.

You asked what I was working on at present-well its a memory quilt for

myself of the many who have enriched my life.I was sick this year and

time on this lovely earth seemed very short.Hence I wanted to honour some

of my family and friends ranging from age 20 months to 99.I am doing alot

of the work myself from their ideas or memories as some are unable to sew

due to many reasons.

Phew! I have blabbed too long.Bye for now and keep warm!

Hiranya Loder-Parramatta Sydney Australia

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:56:20 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: 

Mary - thanks for reminding me of the NQA show in Lincoln in 1991, & the 500

miles of quilt shows. We were on our way to California for vacation (a trip

we make every couple of years), & I talked DH into stopping for the show in

Lincoln. Well, we got there at 4:45 (show closed at 5)!! I begged &

pleaded, & they let me in free for 15 minutes - good thing - I had jumped

out of the car so fast I didn't even have my purse with me - DH & DS sitting

at curb with bewildered looks on faces. I literally jogged through the

ailes - saw approximately 400 quilts in 15 minutes, remember nothing but the

guard telling me I HAD TO LEAVE!

We did visit 2 other shows across the state the next day, in towns I don't

even remember. At one an ancient lady served DH coffee & called him "sir" -

he was so impressed. I will always remember the quilts displayed over

folding chairs that were on top of long tables. Also, stopped at one

location & the show was closed, even though the literature I had said it was

open.

I thought the whole thing was a great idea - quilt shows along route 80,

just for us travelers. Someone should do that again. . . .

Ricki in PA

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:29:41 -0500 (EST)

From: PAMIAM6aol.com

To: 

I have a questions for those of you who know about old fabrics. I just

returned from the antique mall where I purchased 30 long blocks which were

pieced for the flying geese pattern. It is made up of shirtings and indigos.

The indigos are about 25 different patterns. Now the shirtings I can

understand are probably scraps, but who would buy 25 different indigos. I

find this alot in the midwest where I am always buying old quilt tops. It is

almost as if one half yards of indigo was given with a grocery order.....I

have seen quilt tops made from fabric sample books where there will be 6

pieces of the same print in different colors, but there is too much of each

of these patterns to be something like this. Does anyone know what used to

be made from these indigos??????????? Thanks for all the information, I love

readings all your posts. It would be nice if this old fabric could talk to

me...I would ask so many things. Pam in Springfield Il where the temperature

is 2 below zero which is a good excuse to stay inside and quilt.

Pam I Am6

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:09:22

From: "MARY PERSYN" <MPERSYNwesemann.valpo.edu>

To: 

Karan (SadieRose) asked me if I had a source for the book I mentioned

yesterday, ON THE CUTTING EDGE by Jeannette Lasansky. She also

suggested that I post my answer to the list because others of you

might be interested.

I got the book from Quilting Books Unlimited in Batavia, Il. I

don't have their address and phone number with me, but they advertise

in most of the quilting magazines. (I'll post the address and phone

number when I can get home and get them). QBU is an excellent source

for quilting books. You may have seen them at some of the national

shows. They have a great display of books at their store (and some

really nice fabrics, too).

In case you aren't familiar with Jeannette Lasansky's books, I think

they are great. Following is a list of the titles that I know.

BITS AND PIECES: TEXTILE TRADITIONS (1991).

A GOOD START: THE AUSSTEIER OR DOWRY (1990) Not strictly quilting

if I remember correctly.

IN THE HEART OF PENNSYLVANIA: 19TH & 20TH CENTURY QUILTMAKING

TRADITIONS (1985).

IN THE HEART OF PENNSYLVANIA: SYMPOSIUM PAPERS. (1986).

ON THE CUTTING EDGE: TEXTILE COLLECTORS, COLLECTIONS AND TRADITIONS

(1994).

PIECED BY MOTHER: OVER 100 YEARS OF QUILTMAKING TRADITIONS (1987).

PIECED BY MOTHER: SYMPOSIUM PAPERS (1988).

All of the above titles are from the Oral Traditions Project of the

Union County Historical Society.

I believe I've purchased almost all of them from QBU.

Mary

Mary G. Persyn mpersynwesemann.valpo.edu

Law Librarian (219) 465-7838

School of Law Library FAX: (219) 465-7917

Valparaiso University

Valparaiso, IN 46383

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:47:52 -0500 (EST)

From: RBCochranaol.com

To: 

On The Cutting Edge, edited by Jeannette Lasansky is available from the

Oral Traditions Project, at the Union County Court House, South Second

Street, Lewisburg, PA 17837, phone 717-524-8666, FAX 717-524-8743. Cost is

$24.95, plus $2.50 handling and shipping (.75 for each additional title).

I have this info because I helped with one of the articles.

--Rachel in NJ

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:18:53 -0700

From: ayjonestacoma.nwrain.net (Yvonne Jones)

To: 

Dear Quilt Friends,

Ooooooops! The quilts that are being shown at "In The Beginning" quilt

shop, in Seattle, are ANTIQUE Red and Green quilts!

Sorry,

Yvonne

QUILT-R

ayjonestacoma.nwrain.net

The Quilt-R :)

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:04:28 -0500

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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:18:29 -0700

From: kmccoyglenerin.com (Kay McCoy)

To: 

On Sat. Jody wrote:

> deemed that anything LESS than 10-12" per inch was NOT acceptable and

> heaven forbid any machine piecing, let alone quilting! LOL! Being the

> rebel that I am, I didnt get deterred by her opinions, but always

> wondered how many potential good/great quilters we were scaring off

> when she ponificated about her "standards".

And I presume she was born with a needle in her hand that automatically did

12 stitches per inch.

I was told by my aunt that you weren't a "real quilter" until you did 12-14

stitches/inch but that didn't stop me either. I guess I should call myself

an "unreal quilter" because my usual is about 9/inch and it's taken me

years to get there.

Katie in Colorado

"A Quilting Sew & Sew"

kmccoyglenerin.com

Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:23:28 +1000

From: Sven Olsson <svenpnc.com.au>

To: 

Hello All,

This is my first note to you all, but I have been reading your comments

for a few days now, and watching the U.S. weather with interest, while

we in Australia are basking in warmth.

My name is Lorraine Olsson and I live about 100 kilometers west of

Sydney.N.S.W. in the Beautiful Blue Mountains, 1000 meters above sea

level. My home is in Katoomba. My husband is a Veterinarian, and I am in

partnership with my daughter and her chef boyfriend in a small

restaurant called The Whistle Stop Cafe. In the upstairs of the cafe we

have a small quilt gallery showcasing quilts made by local women. I am

also an avid quilter and collector of Americam Antique Quilts.

Now Back to the original topic. If I had been discouraged by the thought

that I had to produce the "perfect" patch or hand quilt in the "perfect"

way, I would not be talking to you now. Fortunately for me I have the

most wonderful and Best Friend a person could have (Lynne) who told me

that my work is to make me happy and no-one else. Good advice hey!

Talk to you all later

Lorraine

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:45:54 -0500

From: Betsy Szymanski <emsfame.com>

To: "'qhl-digestcue.com'" <qhl-digestcue.com>

Subject: Textile Conservation

Message-Id: <01BC0210.8048FAD0NTEMS>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In a recent issue of Ladies Circle Patchwork Quilts magazine there's

an article about a collector of crib quilts. The article mentions that

the collector has had some of her quilts restored by "The Textile

Conservation Workshop" in South Salem, NY (914-763-5805).

I have an old (mid 1800's) needle work sampler that I would like to

have cleaned and re-framed. I called the Workshop to talk to them

about it. They were very nice, and said that they do that kind of work

all of the time. They sent me a brochure that describes some of the

conservation techniques they use. They said that I could send them

the sampler and they would evaluate its condition and make some

recommendations about what they could do to clean or restore it and

tell me how much it would cost. The evaluation would cost $75, and

any additional work would cost $50 per hour.

Has anyone ever sent any textiles to them before? Are there other

such workshops? Are any in the midwest (especially in SE Michigan)?

Does anyone have any other suggestions on who I should contact

about cleaning and framing my sampler? Any comments or help

would be very much appreciated.

Betsy Szymanski, Ann Arbor, Michigan

emsfame.com

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:27:38 -0500 (EST)

From: MamaBear76aol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Fwd: QHL: Fabric Identified! and other things

Message-ID: <970113162704_1075746261emout07.mail.aol.com>

Received this by mistake.

---------------------

Forwarded message:

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

Resent-from: QHLcue.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Date: 97-01-13 06:33:57 EST

Mary, thanks for this valuable information. I am trying to learn about a

very unusual fabric in an antique quilt that i discovered recently. I am

going to see if i can find this book, or at least something like it. I just

wish public libraries carried more of these books. but at least, by living

in Atlanta, i can try some university libraries.

>

>How did I identify it? Following a suggestion, I looked at Julie

>Powell's article on campaign fabrics in ON THE CUTTING EDGE: Textile

>Collectors, Collections, and Traditions, by Jeannette Lasansky,

>(Lewisburg, PA: Oral Traditions Project of Union County, 1994). On

>page 29 in Julie's article is a picture of THE fabric! Talk about

>serendipity. Of all the campaign fabric, Julie chose to use as

>illustrations pictures of the fabrics from the Grant campaign of 1872.

>

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:42:33 -0500 (EST)

From: Quiltfixaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL- what makes a quilt/ Books

Message-ID: <970114134230_679885352emout16.mail.aol.com>

As to what makes a quilt, well, in my book it only requires that someone puts

loving work into it. It doesn't have to be quilted or even tied (what would

you do with some of the untied Crazy Quilts?). A good quilt is just that -

good. The seaming, color choices and placement, method to attach the layers

together all need to be done well. There doesn't even have to be 3 layers.

I have a tied Postage Stamp, c 1930 kit, and I never considered that it

might not be a "quilt" until this came up in the QHL. As for the 10-12

stitches per inch ...... bah! The quilting must be regular. Personally

I prefer itty bitty stitches (I average 10 - brag, brag), but the quilting

must be an integral part of the entire piece.

Re: Camille Cognac's restoration book vs Barbara Brackman's pattern book,

you ought to get both. Camille's book has more historical information - the

pattern book lists patterns in a myriad of ways and gives you lots of

differing names for the same pattern (no history on the pattern other than

origin - ie: Ruby McKim pattern). If you want some history and help with

restoration, get Camille's book. If you want to I.D. quilt patterns, get the

other. You actually should have both, because even if you don't restore,

you'll have an idea into the processes that restoration professionals use.

Alan

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 11:01:00 EST

From: "Bayha, Marty" <450002P8smtp-mmail.oucom.ohiou.edu>

To: QHL post <QHLcuenet.com>

Subject: QHL: Fabric

Message-ID: <32DBB245mail.oucom.ohiou.edu>

I was lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time on Sunday.

I have purchased a partial bolt - actually 15 yards - of fabric that was

manufactured by Indian Head. I was told that this company went out of

business before World War II. I was also told that this was 1930s fabric.

When I took it off the bolt to see how much fabric I had purchased, it has a

date stamped on a small white sticker that says patented 1922. Anyone

familiar with this company or what the date might mean? Does it mean when

the fabric was manufactured?

I also purchased a quilt top (16 patch on point with alternating plain blocks

- scrappy) that has the date 1872 embroidered on one of the blocks. It is

hand and machine pieced. The thread used to embroider the date is also used

some in the hand piecing. It is a thicker thread than used for most of the

piecing of the quilt. I'm hoping to be able to identify some of the fabrics

in the quilt to authenticate the date but haven't had luck so far. Any

suggestions?

Hope you all are having a great day!

Marty Bayha

mbayha1ohiou.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:39:33 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: qhlcue.com

Subject: QHL: Red & Green Applique Exhibit in Lexington, MA

Message-ID: <970114083932_912405772emout14.mail.aol.com>

I've been enjoying this list for weeks now. I'm thrilled to see the

excitement about quilt history topics. My name is Merikay Waldvogel,

Knoxville, TN. I've been deep into quilt history topics since 1980. This

type of on-line networking is incredible. Thank you Kris for doing this. My

current research interests are about 20th century quilts (especially the

1930s, feedsacks, and the Sears Quilt Contest). I have a collection of

mostly 19th century quilts and lots of books and vintage patterns.

I want to announce an exhibit of Red and Green Applique quilts that runs

January 19 - March 23 at the Museum of Our National Heritage in Lexington,

MA. The thirty quilts (1845 - 1895) are from the Collection of Robert and

Ardis James. I curated the exhibit. The Jameses and I will be at the museum

on Sunday, Jan 19 for opening festivities, informal gallery tours, etc.

Please come. We're also doing a quilt dating workshop ($5.00 fee) from 2-4

pm--bring a quilt.

The applique exhibit does not have a catalog, but there is a free color

brochure available at the museum. I'm recommending Ricki Clark's book

Quilted Gardens: Floral Quilts of the Nineteenth Century, which is available

at the museum shop, bookstores, AQS, and Rutledge Hill Press (800-234-4234).

Museum Admission is free. Hours are Mon-Sat 10 am to 5 pm, and Sunday, noon

to 5 pm. Museum is located at 2A and Mass. Ave in Lexington, which is right

off I-95.

Call the Museum at 617-861-6559 for further information.

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:47:24

From: "MARY PERSYN" <MPERSYNwesemann.valpo.edu>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Quilting Books Unlimited Address Etc.

Message-ID: <914EFF4509wesemann.law.valpo.edu>

Here's the information that I promised to post when I located it.

Quilting Books Unlimited

1911 W. Wilson St.

Batavia, IL 60510

phone orders (800) 347-3261

business (630) 406-0237

FAX (630) 406-0238 (anytime)

Hours: M-F 10 am - 5 pm

Sat. 10 am - 4 pm

Sun. noon - 4 pm

Batavia is a far out Chicago suburb so the times are Chicago times.

Their area code recently changed to 630 from 708.

They publish a catalog on an irregular basis. You might want to ask

to be placed on their mailing list.

Not affiliated with QBU. It's just a place where I have left LOTS of

money over the years.<g>

Mary G. Persyn mpersynwesemann.valpo.edu

Law Librarian (219) 465-7838

School of Law Library FAX: (219) 465-7917

Valparaiso University

Valparaiso, IN 46383

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:49:14 -0500 (EST)

From: JQuiltaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: quilt show

Message-ID: <970114184512_2022778299emout16.mail.aol.com>

Come and celebrate National Quilt Day, March 15, 1997..

Bring yourself and your camera to the Bi-annual quilt show of the HAVQG(

Hands Across the

Valley Quilt Guild) Quilt Show...Quilts, Vendors, Quilt Appraisals

When...the weekend of March 15 &16, 1997

Where.... In the LeFrak Gymnasium of Amherst College,on Pleasant St. in

Amherst

Massachusetts

Hours : Sat & Sun 10:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.

Admission $4.00 Adults... $1.50 for children 12 yrs and under

If you would like a small flyer with printed directions to the show...send a

SASE to

My Favorite Quilt Shop

65 University Dr.

Amherst MA 01002

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:50:56 -0500

From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: no need to be "perfect"

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Lorraine Olsson of Katoomba in the Beautiful Blue Mountains,N.S.W.

noted that she was discouraged at the thought that her quilts had to be

perfect. I would like to share with all of you my thoughts about making

quilts.

I have been making patchwork since the early 1970ties, before the

revival. No one I knew made quilts, so I had to guess and teach myself.

Fortunately, Mom taught me how to sew and I was making my own clothes

by the time I was in high school in the early 1960ties. I have made over

one hundred quilts in sizes from wall hangings to bed quilts, and I have

taught quilting classes so I have met lots of quilters. I feel that

quilting is the one area of my life that I can control. No one can tell

me what fabrics to use or what colors I should choose. I decide on

pattern, making many of them myself. I stopped selling my quilts because

I fussed too much about their "perfection." The ones for me or the few I

give away are parts of me. I am not perfect, but I am pretty good. I am

warm, loving, colorful, and comfortable to cuddle up with, just like my

quilts.

One of the best experiences I had was at Karen's baby shower. It was held

at the home of Maureen, another long-time friend, and I had made a quilt

for the expected arrival. Imagine my delight when Maureen's ten year old

daughter, upon seeing the new quilt, raced up to her room to get the

quilt that I had made for Maureen's shower. It was faded and soft, and

obviously so much loved! That love is what quilting is all about.

They are our personal expressions. Whether they express hope, love,

grief, anger, rememberance, or the joy of living, they show who we are,

and we should celebrate that expression.

Don't worry about perfection! Have a good time and savor the fabrics and

the process. And best of all, wrap yourself in your own warm quilt and

enjoy.

Diane in cold, snowy Massachusetts, USA

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:41:48 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: RE:Fur quilts

Message-ID: <32DBB74C.1B78ibm.net>

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Dear All,

The other day I came across a bag full of sheepskin scraps that I had put

away years ago.They have been dyed a soft grey and years ago I had

planned to make a fun quilt out of it;much to the horror of my family.

As you all probably know wool is one of Australia's chief exports.We

have quite a few shops that sell

"Ugg Boots",jackets,slippers etc. So I was able to buy a bag of scraps

for $5.

We have a wonderful Patchwork & Quilting magazine here called "Down Under

Quilts".In the Winter issue

there is an article discussing cloaks of animal skin.Basically when the

European explorers came to Australia some of the Aborigines (or Koori

people as they prefer to be known) here had made cloaks -where squares

had been cut from fur,sewn together and decorated with designs. Each

design was different and had a meaning identifying the wearer.Some

squares were coloured with ochre. The European settlers began to copy

these cloaks and also made warm rugs which were used like quilts.

So,I am not too far out afterall-though the despair of my Quilting

teacher who is cross that I do not conform!!

Have any of you seen such a quilt? We have such a cloak in the Museum of

Victoria,Melbourne. I

would appreciate any advise re how one would sew the furry wool

together,bind it ,back it etc. Or is it too

weird afterall?

Bye for now

Hiranya from Parramatta-Sydney-Australia

e-mail nomad1ibm.net

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:05:20 -0700

From: kmccoyglenerin.com (Kay McCoy)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Thread for applique

Message-Id: <v01530501af02a97f4b1a[166.93.3.70]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've just come into possession of what I think is about a 1940-50s??? old

quilt top but not really sure how to tell how old it is. A friend of mine

found it in the back of a closet in a house she bought and can't contact

the former owner to return it. It's all basted for applique but not

appliqued yet. What thread would be best to do the hand appliques

with--machine embroidery thread or 100% cotton (or something else)?

TIA

Katie in Colorado

"A Quilting Sew & Sew"

kmccoyglenerin.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:39:09 -0400

From: tkorpitatitanic.cs.umass.edu (Terrie Korpita)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Re: France/Paris quilting

Message-Id: <v01540b0baf02bc90a9dc[128.119.41.6]>

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Welcome!

Years ago I spent a semester studying in Paris. Actually I lived in a town

named Marcousis to the south and commuted in every day. I really loved

living in France, though I learned that I don't like commuting. The metro

is not too bad for a subway, but I just don't like being underground all

the time.

Just last month my boss was traveling to Paris and asked if I wanted

anything. I said "Go to the Opera district, then a bit to the west,

beneath the Church on the hill, (whats the name? Sacre Coeur?), there

should be several fabric stores and other shops with sewing stuff. Bring

me cotton or silk." She couldn't find anything! I know the city must

have changed, but where are the fabric stores now? Even my school was in

that neighborhood. I studied dressmaking. I cannot remember the

arrondisement number.

I will look forward to your input on this list. I was once fascinated by

the copper roller printed fabric made in Jouay in, I think, the 19th

century. I've seen it used on old American bed curtains of that time.

Maybe gowns as well. Do you know if it was ever quilted? Either for bed

quilts or for petticoats?

I was also fascinated by the bobbin laces made in Brittany/Normandy and to

the north. You are in a wonderful area - so rich in textile history!

I visited your web site, and like your quilts very much. Soon I will have

a color monitor and will visit it again :)

Terrie in Massachusetts where perhaps there will be snow tomorrow.

tkorpitacs.umass.edu

on 4 Jan, Inge wrote:

>Hello everyone,

>

>We're all supposed to introduce ourselves when joining this list, and I

>guess that it's time that I get it done.

>

>I'm living in France, more precisely in Saint-Germain-en-Laye which is a

>suburb 16 km (10 miles) west of the Eiffel tower in the heart of Paris -

>so, for short, I usually refer to Paris as my town.

>

>Living in Paris is, however, not synonymous with being French. Actually,

>I'm a Dane and have been living in France for the last 8 - 9 years.

>

>I've joined this list in particular for learning more about old quilts and

>the history of quilts, which I find interesting. At this point in time, I

>should be considered a greenhorn in these matters;-)

>

>I am so fortunate to have a small quilt museum in a small village,

>Barneville, 1.5 hours drive further to the west. The museum is called

>"Musee du Patchwork et de la Courtepointe" and is situated next to a

>quilting shop run by one of the finest quilters in France, Nadine Rogeret.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:19:28 -0600

From: R D <holmrexecpc.com>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Book Thank you!

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Many thanks to all of you who responded to my questions about Barbara

Brackman's Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns, and Camille Cognac's

book - Quilt Restoration A Practical Guide.

I ordered the Quilt Restoration book today -- and now I have to wait

patiently for it to be delivered.

Thank you so much for helping me spend money -- wisely! :P

Donna in Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 14:50:18 PST

From: Sharon Harleman Tandy <harlemanmicron.net>

To: Quilt History Listserve <QHLcuenet.com>

Subject: QHL: Quilt History Bibliography

Message-ID: <Chameleon.970115145713.harlemanharleman.micron.net>

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Fellow QHLers, At last I'm ready to follow through on my promise to list my

almost 100 QH books. Planned to do it last week, but I forgot how much work

it is to have a 6 yr old boy and a 13 yr old girl for nine days. Not much

on _my_ schedule got done!

In the interest of saving my hook-up time and your downloading time, I have

divided them into 13 categories. Smaller ones may get ganged together, but

the largest and, IMHO more significant, will be alone. The categories will

be on the subject line so that you can choose which lists to copy/save. I

will not be recommending nor dis-recommending since everyone has diff.

interests and tastes. Information will be standardized on all lists except

the state books, which will be alphabetized by state. That's it for now, I

hope; do e- me with queries, I will disconnect between categories. Signing

off now but 1st category coming right up. Appreciate your interest, Sharon.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 14:57:18 PST

From: Sharon Harleman Tandy <harlemanmicron.net>

To: Quilt History Listserve <QHLcuenet.com>,

Betty on QHL has Q Hy bk list on web <ektuppergarden.net>

Subject: QHL: QHBx.list: pattern and textile ID

Message-ID: <Chameleon.970115151000.harlemanharleman.micron.net>

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Brackman, Barbara. _Clues in the Calico._ McLean, Virginia: EPM

Publications, 1989.

Brackman, Barbara. _Encyclopedia of Applique: An Illustrated, Numerical

Index to Traditional and Modern Patterns._ McLean, Virginia: EPM

Publications, 1993.

Brackman, Barbara. _Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns._ Paducah:

American Quilter's Society, 1993.

Khin, Yvonne M. _The Collector's Dictionary of Quilt Names & Patterns._

(orig.) Washington, D.C.: Acropolis Books, 1980.

(an incidental) no author/editor. _Photographs of Fabrics in 19th & 20th

Century Quilts: 26 Accurate Color Plates Identified by quarter century._

Paducah: American Quilter's Society, n.d.

End/list

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:03:34 +0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettpo.fast.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Book Thank you!

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Donna wrote

Many thanks to all of you who responded to my questions about Barbara

Brackman's Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns, and Camille Cognac's book -

Quilt Restoration A Practical Guide. I ordered the Quilt Restoration book today

-- and now I have to wait patiently for it to be delivered. Thank you so much

for helping me spend money -- wisely! :P Donna in Wisconsin

My comments -

I am personally very frustrated when someone asks a good quilt history question

and then ends the post with "please respond privately." I feel this is very

inconsiderate and not the purpose of this list. I would like to have quilt

history questions answered to the list so that we all could have profited from

the MANY people who responded to Donna's question. If this trend continues,

this list will dwindle to a list of questions followed by a list of thank yous,

with no information in between. I can't speak for everyone, but I think many

of us joined so we could learn about quilt history and things relating to that.

While I own Barbara's book, I am not at all familiar with Camille's book, and

was looking forward to information about it. Please consider posting quilting

history answers to the list in the future. I was a math teacher and I always

told my students that if one of them had a question, at least 5 others wanted

to hear the answer. I think the same analogy holds true here, except if one

person asks a question there are probably 200 people who want to hear the

answer because of the type list. Thank you for reading my opinion.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:22:08 -0500

From: Kathy <DeSchuitix.netcom.com>

To: Quilting Heritage List <QHLcuenet.com>

Subject: QHL: Off the Subject but on Time

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I know this isn't quilt related but sometimes we have conversations

about the time we posted and the time it shows up and I thought that

this web site was helpful.

http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~oliver/faq/settz.txt

--

Kathy in NH

DeSchuitix.netcom.com

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:26:09 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL:Red and Green Quilts

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KENNETH K REGAN wrote:

>

> Dear Hiranya,

> I enjoyed reading your bio. Can you please tell me what Red and

> Green quilts are? Thanks, Tiffany -a native Texan living in Oklahoma.

Hi Tiffany,

Thanks for your mail-its always lovely receiving mail.I wasn't sure

whether to post this to you or the list,but as you asked -here goes.I am

no expert but from what I have researched Applique from the mid-1800's

were predominantly stitched using red and green fabric on a white or off

white background and there was only one or two accent colours such as

yellow,pink and at times blue. Different areas had different trends of

different backgrounds.The reason for the red and green theme is not fully

known.Possible reasons are that in about 1850 a new aniline dye was

discovered which produced a more colourfast green and red.Though the

green did change colour in time it was an acceptable change.

Turkey Red(referring to the Mediterranean area of the world)was far

superior

in colourfastness than other red fabric of that time.It was also very

expensive and sold for as much as three times the price of ordinary

calico.Another possible reason is that roses were favoured for applique

at that time,hence they used the natural colours.Also the fads of that

time for interior decorating were green and crimson colour themes.

Tiffany,there is heaps more information on this theme.If you are

interested I can hunt up my list of books o.k?

I do not want to bore your eyes off too much!!

Bye for now'Hiranya

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:38:26 +0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettpo.fast.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Terrific History Book

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Hi all -

I wanted to let people know about a book that may not be familiar to them

because of the regional nature of its distribution. If you have not gotten to

PA recently or don't order books from Dover Booksellers - which was sold and I

don't know what is happening - you might not have seen this really fantastic

book on PA quilt history.

"Lest I Shall Be Forgotten - Anecdotes and traditions of quilts" by Nancy and

Donald Roan is the result of the Quilt Documentation done by the Goshenhoppen

Historians in 1990 to 1992. A large exhibit was held in June 1993 and this

book was in conjuction with the exhibit.

The book is paper bound, has 96 full-color pages, and is full of color pictures

of quilts typical of this watershed area of southeastern PA. Quilts are

pre-1940 and the area is primarily, but not exclusively, Pennsylvania Dutch.

The PA Dutch include Mennonites, Brethren, Schwenkfelders, and Reformed, but do

not include the Amish as they did not live in this area, but further to the

southwest.

The author, Nancy, is a wonderful quilt historian and has spoken at several

symposiums, including one held at the Smithsonian 2 years ago. She is a

stickler for detail and accuracy and likes to have first hand documentation for

her statements, as in journals, diaries, etc. These are quoted in the book.

The book was published by the Historians, and they get all proceeds. My only

connection is that I helped alot with the documentation and the exhibit, so my

name does appear in a list in the book, but I just believe it is a wonderful

book.

Books can be ordered by sending a check for $15 plus $3 postage and handling to

-

Goshenhoppen Historians, Inc.

P. O. Box 476

Green Lane, PA 18054

Thanks for your time, and I hope you enjoy the book

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:35:26 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: 1940s-50s Applique Top

Message-ID: <970116083521_1691238643emout09.mail.aol.com>

Katie in Colorado, you wondered how to date an applique a quilt top (c.

1940s-40s) your her friend found. You said the top was basted for applique,

but not sewn down. Would you please describe the design, colors, etc.? You

might have a top from the 1930s when companies would sell applique quilts in

various stages--as a kit with fabric stamped, as a basted applique top, and

as a completed quilt. Anne Orr, Mary McElwaine, and even Ruby McKim sold

such products. I have catalogs from these designers, and we might be able to

establish a date for the quilt top if you describe it to me. --Merikay

Waldvogel

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Date: 16 Jan 97 09:04:38 EST

From: Rabbit Goody <75444.1037CompuServe.COM>

To: "INTERNET:QHLcue.com" <QHLcue.com>

Subject: Re: QHL: Quilting Books Unlimited Address Etc.

Message-ID: <970116140437_75444.1037_FHQ51-2CompuServe.COM>

unsubscribe

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Date: 16 Jan 97 09:04:37 EST

From: Rabbit Goody <75444.1037CompuServe.COM>

To: "INTERNET:QHLcue.com" <QHLcue.com>

Subject: Re: QHL: Quilting Books Unlimited Address Etc.

Message-ID: <970116140436_75444.1037_FHQ51-1CompuServe.COM>

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:33:21 -0500 (EST)

From: HKnight453aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Thread for applique

Message-ID: <970116093300_1758354132emout15.mail.aol.com>

I like all-cotton general purpose thread for applique which is

available from Coats and Clark in a reasonable range of colors. It is

strong, especially when waxed. I use ordinary paraffin sold for sealing

jelly jars; its much cleaper and better than beeswax. As I thread the

needles, I run the thread across the wax. I know people who dip whole spools

in melted wax, but have not tried this yet.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:39:06 -0500 (EST)

From: HKnight453aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Thread for applique

Message-ID: <970116093901_172886149emout11.mail.aol.com>

I like to use all cotton general purpose thread from Coats and Clark

for allpique. It comes in a reasonable range of colors, and would be fairly

authentic. As a child of the 70s, I fear synthetics. I wax all thread for

hand work by running it across a cake of parrafin as sold for sealing jelly

jars. Then again, I also use #9 or 10 embroider neddles or sharps for hand

piecing, so I tend to go against THE RULES.

Also, can anyone help me in finding a book with patterns for doing a

penny square quilt. My DB saw one in an antique shop in Brimfield MA for

several hundred beyond our price range, and I would like to make a replica,

and include some squares with sketches of places significant to our

relationship. This would include the MBTA station at Riverside, where we

met. Bust wishes from Rhode Island where it is (thankfully) only raining.

Heather (AKA HKNIght453AOL.com)

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:08:43 +0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettpo.fast.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Penny Square Applique

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Heather wrote -

Also, can anyone help me in finding a book with patterns for doing a

penny square quilt.

Willa Bee Studio has a wonderful selection of patterns for 1900s Penny Square

redwork embroidery. I have spoken with Willa (I hope that's her name) at the

Lancaster Quilt Show and she is delightful, has scrapbooks of quilts she has

photographed and is really specialized in this area. She has drafted patterns

for full size and wall hanging size quilts. Her pattern says, for more

information send a LSASE to -

Willa Bee Studio

269 Woodland Drive

Orchard Park, NY 14127

I have no connection to her, just found her very knowledgeable, willing to

share, and delightful to talk to. She is located at the "extras" merchant mall

across route 30 from the Heritage Quilt Show. I think she does a lot of shows,

so may have a schedule that puts here near you.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:51:55 -0500 (EST)

From: KirkCollaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Indian Head

Message-ID: <970116105154_2023016040emout02.mail.aol.com>

Somewhere in our archives is a brochured from the manufacturer abotu Indian

Head fabrics, They are (were) made in Nashua, NH and were definitely

available through the 50's because my mother's uniforms were made from indian

Head. The name is always printed in the selvage in the later years. Their

logo is an Indian Chief whose image appears on the bolts and labels. They

made both plain and printed fabrics. I'm not sure if they are still

manufacturing. Maybe someone near Nashua can check it out.

Nancy Kirk

The Kirk Collection

Antique Fabrics & Antique Quilts

High Quality Reproduction Fabrics

Conservation & Restoration Supplies

1513 Military Avenue

Omaha, NE 68111

1-800-398-2542 (U.S. and Canada)

(402) 551-0386

Email: KirkCollaol.com

FAX (402) 551-0971

Web site: http://www.auntie.com/kirk

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:04:47 -0800 (PST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: yo yos

Message-Id: <199701161604.IAA28467acme.sb.west.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Can anyone give me information on yo yo's? What time frame were they

made in and what was the height of their popularity. How were yo yo quilts

used? I wonder about that because they are a little fragile because they

catch on things and obviously it wouldn't be a quilt for warmth. Were they

designed for use in any special way? Who "invented" the design? anonymous

maybe? Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. Michele in MoorparkCA

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:49:01 -0700

From: kmccoyglenerin.com (Katie McCoy)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Old quilt top

Message-Id: <v01530503af03f2509e66[166.93.3.75]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

The response regarding the old quilt top given to me and what thread to

applique with has been wonderful. At the suggestion of Kris, I will be

taking photos and several people have offered to help me date the top. I

will examine it more closely this weekend while taking the photos and will

post a description next week. This group is fantastic--caring, giving, and

helpful.

My gratitude to you all.......

Katie in Colorado

"A Quilting Sew & Sew"

kmccoyglenerin.com

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 16:52:27 GMT

From: osborneiinet.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Dating quilts

Message-ID: <M.011697.085227.85SMDKSBCR>

Hi, This is my first time writing to this list. I have a question I hope

you can help me with. I was

told by a quilt appraiser that if you buy, say a quilt top made in 1920 and

you finish the quilt, the

quilt is than dated by the time you finished it, 1997. What are you ideas

about this? Is it better

to leave the top a top? The same was said about just repairing a quilt, say

replacing the

tattered binding. Thanks for any info you can share.

--

Karen Osborne Quiltabeast in Murrieta, CA

osborneiinet.com

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 13:39:32 -0500 (EST)

From: Quiltfixaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Intro and question

Message-ID: <970116133705_273135596emout04.mail.aol.com>

I was thinking that I've put my two cents in several times in the last two

weeks and not given y'all an idea of who I am. My name is Alan. 35 yo male

living in sunny Florida (don't get jealous, it's supposed to go down to the

low 20's this weekend!). Even though I have a real job to pay the bills, I

am a quilt restoration professional by choice. I have a family history of

quilting - we come from the Lancaster Co., PA, area, but are not Amish.

Rather, my family is PA Dutch. I hold a BA in Painting, which I don't do

any more, in lieu of needlework. I am very entranced by quilts, but also

tat, am learning bobbin lace, and do the standard needle arts that are out

there. I also collect antiques and am fascinated with history in general.

Oh, I'm not married and have one cat and eleven fish.

My question is this - I'm working on a hanging that has the poly-bonded

cotton batting (20/80). I'm having the devil of a time getting the needle

through the stuff, and I know it's not extra layers of fabric. Is this

normal? I noticed the poly seems to be in layers on the outside of the

batting.

Thanks.

Alan

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 16:46:22 PST

From: Sharon Harleman Tandy <harlemanmicron.net>

To: Quilt History Listserve <QHLcuenet.com>,

Betty on QHL has Q Hy bk list on web <ektuppergarden.net>

Subject: QHL: Glitch gone, OK now?

Message-ID: <Chameleon.970116165037.harlemanharleman.micron.net>

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While sending third book list a monster glitch cut me off, both

incoming and outgoing. Would someone let me know what got throuh

(and if this goes also)? First: there was a note explaining how I'd

do the list; second was 1st list, pattern/textile ID; third was 2nd

list, general American QH; and last was all 22 state books. Just

tell me the last to make it completely. Thnx, Sharon in sunny, blue

skyed Boise.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:48:32 -0500

From: Kathy <DeSchuitix.netcom.com>

To: KirkCollaol.com

CC: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: Indian Head

Message-ID: <32DEBE50.670Fix.netcom.com>

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I live in Manchester, NH and we used to have an Indian Head factory

outlet in the 1960's maybe into the 70's but it is not around anymore.

I don't believe they are in Nashua but I will see if I can check it out

tomorrow.

--

Kathy in NH

DeSchuitix.netcom.com

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:09:27 -0500 (EST)

From: RLHlink3aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Sharon's book list

Message-ID: <970116200831_101756706emout18.mail.aol.com>

Hi Sharon!

Am I glad (I guess) to hear there was a glitch. --I thought it was just my

faulty understanding of what was intended. whew :)

I got one list which ended with "Photographs of Fabrics in 19th & 20th

Century Quilts:" .....Paducah:

Hope all glitches are cleared up. (Boy have we had a lot on our end!) I

really enjoy this group.

Good evening to everyone.

Linda in Redding CA

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:28:24 +0000

From: gilsonsvoicenet.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Quilt Restoration Book

Message-Id: <199701170131.UAA04816mail3.voicenet.com>

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Barb in Southeastern asked about Camille Cognac's book "Quilt

Restoration, A Practical Guide". Here's what I think after using for

over a year.

It's the best book I've found on the subject. Topics covered are the

difference between restoration and conservation, major kinds of

damage, holes, flaking, and applique. She also discusses things to do

with unfinished quilt tops and squares, borders, and bindings. What I

like best are the pictures which illustrate the text. The advice is

straightforward and practical. There is also a section on TLC for old

quilts.

Camille's second book will be devoted to Crazy Quilts and is due out

sometime this year. I've seen her lecture on repairing Crazies; she

has developed or refined a number of techniques specific to that

style of quilt. Quilt restoration is how she supports her family, so

the techniques need to be well researched and executed.

Peg G. from cooooold South Jersey

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:03:17 -0500 (EST)

From: RLHlink3aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Quilt Restoration Book

Message-ID: <970117000317_979947071emout17.mail.aol.com>

Hello, Peg!

This is Linda, responding to your note re: Camille Cognac's book and next

book. I like what I am "hearing" in your book report. I wasn't in the market

for such, but now I think I would like to look for it. Would you be so kind

as to mention the publisher for me? --I am one of those people who likes to

go "armed for bear" when I shop. :)

Thank you so much.

Linda/Redding CA

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:27:01 +0000

From: Rayna Gillman <RG2worldnet.att.net>

To: 

I have Camille's book but I also have -- and *love* Becky Herdle's book,

"Time Span Quilts."

Rayna

Rayna Gillman in NJ

RG2worldnet.att.net

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:52:33 -0500

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: Intro and question

Message-ID: <970117005233_302054575emout02.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-01-16 Alan writes:

<< My question is this - I'm working on a hanging that has the poly-bonded

cotton batting (20/80). I'm having the devil of a time getting the needle

through the stuff, and I know it's not extra layers of fabric. Is this

normal? I noticed the poly seems to be in layers on the outside of the

batting. >>

You might try either changing to a new needle, the finish can wear on a

needle making it pull or snag more. Or running the needle along your

hairline. (The latter is a trick my Mom taught me for making diaper pins

penetrate more easily...the oil at your hairline 'lubricates' the needle).

Same with running the needle through a thin bar of soap.

You might also try a smaller needle- although these sometimes will break

if the batting is dense. I used a #8 Sharp needle the one time I hand

quilted the "old" version of Warm & Natural, about 5 years ago. (The product

is different now, a less dense version that is easier to hand stitch, note

that I said easier....not as easy as poly batting, though). My stitches were

not as small with the larger needle...but it didn't break and I could take a

couple at a time.

If you are not happy with this batting, try one of the new all cotton

batts for your next project. Addy at Pinetree Quiltworks could share info

from her testing on the various new batts on the market.

(pinetreequiltworks.com) (No afilliation, just a happy customer). Good

Luck!! Karan (SadieRoseaol.com)

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:37:16 -0700

From: lv2quiltfrii.com (Heidi Hoff Wurst)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: waxing thread

Message-Id: <v02140b00af04af779490[208.146.243.40]>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Heather talked about using paraffin for waxing thread. When I first started

quilting I tried the same thing and mentioned my 'discovery' to a friend,

who owns a quilt shop in town. She cautioned me that paraffin was petroleum

based and may not good for quilts in the long run, but the beeswax was

fine. I figured that she knew more about quilting than I did, but neglected

to get any specific information. Anyone have any FACTS about paraffin vs.

beeswax?

Heidi in Colorado

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:52:54 -0600

From: R D <holmrexecpc.com>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Book Review

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Dear Barb and all,

I apologize for not sharing the description of the two books that I had

asked about. I

didn't feel that I asked a quilt history question. I simply wanted a brief

description

of the two books so that I could pick (somewhat quickly and sight unseen) to

use a up a

store credit from another state. As these books have been lightly mentioned

before on

our board, I didn't want to waste other people's time with my question.

Only one person

privately emailed me to ask what people had responded with.

Both of these books are available from the lending library. I just didn't

have time to

borrow them and look them over. This is another reason that I didn't feel I

should use

the QHL time this way.

A description of the Restoration book has since been posted to the board by

Peg G.

I do understand what you are saying, Barb, and you do have a good point --

however I

WAS trying to be considerate!

Donna in Wisconsin

>>RE: I am personally very frustrated when someone asks a good quilt history

questionand then ends the post with "please respond privately." I feel this

is very

inconsiderate and not the purpose of this list. I would like to have quilt

history questions answered to the list so that we all could have profited from

the MANY people who responded to Donna's question. If this trend continues,

this list will dwindle to a list of questions followed by a list of thank yous,

with no information in between. I can't speak for everyone, but I think many

of us joined so we could learn about quilt history and things relating to that.

While I own Barbara's book, I am not at all familiar with Camille's book, and

was looking forward to information about it. Please consider posting quilting

history answers to the list in the future. I was a math teacher and I always

told my students that if one of them had a question, at least 5 others wanted

to hear the answer. I think the same analogy holds true here, except if one

person asks a question there are probably 200 people who want to hear the

answer because of the type list. Thank you for reading my opinion.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:25:56 -0500 (EST)

From: AJSNGSaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Book List

Message-ID: <970117082555_1657847501emout14.mail.aol.com>

Hi All,

Maybe I'm missing something....but I never received a copy of Sharon's list

of books. She mentioned that there was a major glitch, but that it had been

worked out. I never received ANY of her list!

Help! Any suggestions?

Nancy in VA

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:31:50 -0500

From: RBCochranaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Book List

Message-ID: <970117083149_1419373685emout02.mail.aol.com>

Yes, I'd like to know where to find the list, too. Thanks.

Rachel in NJ

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:48:32 -0500 (EST)

From: JQuiltaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Quilt Restoration

Message-ID: <970117104830_815968115emout15.mail.aol.com>

This month's issue(Spring 97) of American Quilter has a short article about

quilt restoration and an address for....

The Quilt Restroation Society

P.O. Box 337

Hillsdale, NY 12529

518-325-4502

On the following page is another short piece on storing quilts.

Jean Laino

jquiltaol.com

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:15:51 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: medevial quilts & new project

Message-Id: <199701171606.IAA14678orbital.cue.com>

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Hi everyone. Was very interested in Karen from Springfield, MA who said she

made replicas of medevial (sp?) quilts. I'd like to know more about that

time period of quilts. I have seen pictures of the 14th C. Italian quilts,

one in Italy & one in Britain (Quilter's Newsletter, don't ask me when), but

have no knowledge of what was in vogue then in quilting, & where do you find

sources for what they looked like?? Karen, you out there. . .?

On another subject - I just took in another restoration job yesterday, & it

should be fun. It's a Sunbonnet Sue quilt, with a small amount of many

different kinds of damage. I will get lots of practice with this one, but

not so much of one thing to get bored. The border is flapping off on one

corner, there is some embroidery missing here & there, there are two very

small holes, a little quilting needs replaced, the binding is shot, & it

needs a bath! (It has been laundered many times before according to the

owner, so I think this one won't fade!) My only concern is that the woman

wants to give this to a 3-year-old who was named after her. My concern is

that this quilt will not be treated properly after it's repaired. I am

gently trying to get the message across that, on the bed for every day use

would not be a good idea, & gave her one of my "care of old quilts" sheets.

Ricki, making headway in PA

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:09:33 -0800

From: lrobinscclink.fhcrc.org (laurarm)

To: QHLcue.com, lrobinscclink.fhcrc.org (laurarm)

Subject: QHL: unfinished quilt tops/dating quilts

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Someone posted a message about using old quilt tops and how their age

and value change when quilted later (e.g. if a 30s top is quilted in

the 90s, it is considered to be a 90s quilt).

I think this brings up an interesting point about whether old tops

*should* be finished in a quilt. I personally advocate that many

times they should be preserved in their original state. We have to

get away from the notion of "unfinished" quilt and think of these as

"completed" quilt tops. Many times they have intrinisic and

historical value just as a top, especially when you can see the

workmanship or methods used which might not be as apparent in a

completed quilt. I really cringe when I hear of someone finding an

old English-paper-pieced top with the papers still inside and then

they want to remove the papers and make a quilt. Such a piece is

valauble "as is", because it shows the technique, and even the old

newspaper pieces are interesting.

When we find a 1930 top, it frequently is a family piece and we think

we're just completing what grandma started. And the piece has family

value. But we should start thinking of those as historical artifacts.

If you had a lady's gown from 1730, would you alter it to fit and wear

it?? If you had some textile from 1530 would you make a quilt with

it? If we found an incomplete Rembrandt, would we "finish" it?? I

know these are extreme examples and not exactly the same as finding a

1930 quilt top, but the older these quilt tops become, the more they

are like the 1730 gown or the 1530 textile.

And I think some of this also applies to repairing quilts -- there's a

difference between preserving an old piece and actually replacing

parts of it. And perhaps we should think twice or three times before

doing anything (including washing). Maybe we should think how we

would approach a quilt from 1800, and use some of that same reverence

for a 1930's quilt, because if cared for, that 1930s quilt will

someday also be 200 years old, and the original parts might be much

more valuable (historically and monetarily) than a 30s quilt with 90s

replacement parts.

I'm not criticizing people who want to create a family heirloom by

quilting grandma's top or repairing Great Aunt Hortense's quilt (yes I

had a Great Aunt Hortense!). And certain old tops are very simple,

run-of-the-mill patterns and don't seem to be worth much alone. I'm

just suggesting that we start seeing the intrinsic value in old tops

and blocks, and maybe sometimes they should be preserved as they are.

Sometimes we should see ourselves as stewards of these pieces of

history and preserve them rather than using them up.

My 2 cents worth.

Laura Robins-Morris, Seattle, whose only family heirloom is a double

pink Drunkards Path quilt made by Great Aunt Flo (Hortense's sister!)

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:22:42 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V96 #14

Message-ID: <970117112125_2090295222emout12.mail.aol.com>

Re: Cotton carding of batts From: Merikay Waldvogel

While doing research for my book on Depression Era quilting, I interviewed

80-year old women (from E. Tennessee) who quilted during the 1930s. Several

women mentioned hand carding batts for their quilts. Large scale cotton

growing was not prevalent this far north, but these women planted a few

cotton plants in their vegetable gardens especially for their quiltmaking.

They had childhood memories of picking the seeds from cotton bolls during

the long winters. Their mothers would hand card the cotton and pile up the

cotton batts (about six inches square). When the quilt was ready for the

frame, the quilter would stretch the backing on the frame, and then

distribute the cotton batts over the surface overlapping them slightly.

Next, the top was put on, etc. etc.

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:52:01 -0500 (EST)

From: HKnight453aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: medevial quilts & new project

Message-ID: <970117125200_713913235emout05.mail.aol.com>

I have to agree with Ricki that using old quilts for everyday use

is probably not a good idea, especially around children and pets. That's one

of the advantages of making 'replica quilts". With the reproduction fabric

and Warm & Natural batting around, one can make a quilt hat feels 'old', but

can better bear everyday use. I have a 40's Crazy Quilt does in scraps from

the Fuit of the Loom men's underwear and pyjama factory in Cranston RI by my

grandmother's Aunt Ree. I used it for several years, and it is too worn now

to be used. I keepy it fold over a chair, changing the folds frequently

about 1/2 rthe year (fal and winter) and store it in the cedar closet in a

white all-cotton pillowcase in the summer.

Heather (H knight453AOL.com)

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:23:18 -0500 (EST)

From: RLHlink3aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: research by Marikay

Message-ID: <970117132143_1143448149emout09.mail.aol.com>

Your conversations with the older women re: their quilting during the

depression years sounds fascinating. Is your book finished? Is it available?

Thank you for sharing the anecdote about growing your own cotton batting. As

a gardener and quilter in VA, that is something that had never entered my

mind. However, now that I am transplanted to rocky Redding CA, I don't think

I will try it. :)

Linda

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:22:58 -0500 (EST)

From: Laurajbraol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Quilt Restoration Book

Message-ID: <970117132258_1624005829emout19.mail.aol.com>

Hi

After reading the description of this book, I realize I definitely need to

add it to my collection. Can any of you tell me where I might find it?

Borders? Barnes and Noble? Thanks, Laura

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:37:18 -0500 (EST)

From: Quiltfixaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Red and Green Quits

Message-ID: <970117173716_1959075027emout04.mail.aol.com>

A couple of thoughts on red/green appliques......

First, about the analine dyes. If memory serves me, lavender was the first

color produced in the mid 1850's. When the other colors came along, well, I

don't know for certain. No one really ever seems to address anything but the

fact that the first dye was lavender.

Red and green quilts are neet, but don't ignore other color combinations from

that period, because they may actually be a former red/green quilt! Because

so many dyes were not really color fast, you get some strange color

combinations in 1997. I own a quilt dated 1880 that is made of 9 blocks with

no setting. Each block is made of a cross in tan with blue leaves on each

branch. What I beleive happened here was that this was formerly a red /green

quilt. The red appears to have faded to tan. Greens were often hard to make

and were often created by dying the fabric blue then green. I think that the

green fabric originally used lost it's yellow over the past century, which

ended up leaving me with a blue/tan quilt. It's still pretty and quite a

steal, so I was lucky to get it.

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:45:01 -0500 (EST)

From: QRestoreaol.com

To: 

In response to Laura Robins-Morris, first let me say, I do appreciate and

respect your point of view, just thought I'd provide another.

Not all quilts or quilt tops are Dior quality and to lump them all together

as equally of great value is to deny reality. True restoration considers the

historical value and importance, the date the quilt/top was made, what if

anything should be done with the quilt/top and the "as is" value of the

quilt/top. Not many of us on this ListServ and certainly no self respecting

restorer would treat a "30's quilt with 90's replacement parts," as described

in your post. Research is a key factor in any restoration project.

My we quilters seem to have alot of "shoulds" and "shouldn'ts" in our

vocabulary. I hate to sound like a broken record on this subject, but "Who

owns the quilt/top?" We all have the same goal in sight and that is to

preserve, protect and in some cases rescue quilts, tops, and textiles from

the landfill, etc. There is room for both the conservator and restorer and

plenty of quilts, tops and textiles to be saved. Those items of historical

importance have their place in a museum setting but the majority are not of

museum quality and can be enjoyed and protected by those who love and/or own

them.

One of the very reasons for this QHL is to share and educate others about the

proper methods of preserving, restoring, cleaning and storing quilts, tops

and textiles. There is no one answer which can satisfy every quilt/top

dilemma, only after careful research and consideration can one determine the

best choice for their particular situation. Value can be a very subjective

thing, what you or I value as important may not be the same as someone

else's.

No one is suggesting you cannot enjoy the "intrinsic value" of

quilts/tops/blocks in their "as is" condition, however, who are we to flatly

tell others what to do with their family heirlooms and/or found treasures?

Lets provide good choices and let them decide without the "shoulds and

shouldn'ts."

Victoria Montgomery

QRestoreaol.com

Boise, ID

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:49:33 -0500 (EST)

From: QRestoreaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Sharon's Book List

Message-ID: <970117174933_302151970emout14.mail.aol.com>

To the Group;

Sharon Harleman Tandy is still having computer problems (gremlins) and is

unable to receive or send e-mail at the moment. She's trying to correct the

problem and will be back online with the book list ASAP. She sends her

apologies . . .

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:27:27 -0500 (EST)

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Book Order

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I spent some time on the phone today and made arrangements for a bulk buy on

several of the more popular books on the list. I arranged to buy Textile

Designs for $55 a book (this is an $85 book in the store), Clues in the

Calico for $25 (this is a $40 book in the stores), Textile Bags by Anna Lue

Cook for $10 (this is $13 book, not available in stores.) I am going over

to Camille Cognac's house on Monday, I'll ask her for some books, too,

(Quilt Restoration: a Practical Guide) although the last time I talked to

her she couldn't offer too much of a discount because she herself doesn't

get one. I can get her to sign them, though:-)) I can accept credit cards

through Hickory Hill Antique Quilts, so if anyone would like one of the

above books, please let me know at oldquiltalbany.net. You could also fax

me at 518-875-9141.

I would like to point out that we have several other authors on the list. I

don't want to volunteer anybody, but if anyone wants to offer their books

for sale (with or without a discount), please let me know and I will add it

to the list. Are there any other books you would like me to look into getting?

Kris

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:14:29 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltLineaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Fwd: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #15

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In a message dated 97-01-16 22:27:56 EST, QHL-Digest-requestcue.com writes:

<< Hi, This is my first time writing to this list. I have a question I

hope you can help me with. I was

told by a quilt appraiser that if you buy, say a quilt top made in 1920 and

you finish the quilt, the

quilt is than dated by the time you finished it, 1997. What are you ideas

about this? Is it better

to leave the top a top? The same was said about just repairing a quilt, say

replacing the

tattered binding. Thanks for any info you can share.

-- >>

Dear Karen,

The appraiser was right. The quilt cannot be dated any earlier than it was

completed. After all, it is not a quilt until it has a top and a bottom.

What is normally done in this situation, is on an appraisal form the

appraiser would make a note that the quilt is a c. 1920 top, recently

completed - 1997. Then it would be noted if it were completed as traditional

to 1920 (vintage fabrics, repro fabrics, etc.) or if the back were a 1997

print. In most instances if the top is made into a quilt, and the

workmanship is excellent, and the style of finishing does not detract from

the top, this will increase the value. The same is pretty much said for

restoration or repair. Does the restoration or repair detract from the

quilt? Was the restoration done in such a way as to enhance the quilt? Is

the restoration noted on the quilt? Was the restoration done as traditional

to the period and style of the quilt? These are just a few questions we

consider when appraising a quilt. When dating a repaired or restored quilt,

the circa date remains as it was when the quilt was first made, However, an

ethical restorer will label the back as to when repair was done, and what

was done.

To be very honest, I must say that I have seen quilt tops that were made

into quilts that went down in value because of poor quality of workmanship

and poor selection of fabrics, etc (c.1910 top with c.1970 edge and back),

but have seen beautiful and valuable quilts recently made from an antique

top. Be very careful however, when making the top into a quilt, that the

top's fabric is not too fragile to handle the abuse of the needle and thread.

I hope this answers your question.

Deborah Roberts - certified quilt appraiser

---------------------Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:47:30 -0800

From: Jody Bordner <qltgrosegte.net>

To: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>

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Kris,

Yes! I just discovered this one in Barnes and Noble yesterday! It is

lovely, and I would be interested in knowing if anyone has it/and their

opinion of it.... Title: The American Quilt by Roderick Kiracofe. I

forgot to get the publishers name, but it is a large size book, lots of

beautiful pictures and history (my first impression, briefly went thru it

in the store) The list price was $60.

Thanks!

Jody

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:45:38 -0500 (EST)

From: QRestoreaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re:Roderick Kiracofe Book

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Jody;

The American Quilt by Roderick Kiracofe is excellent. It's definately one of

those "must have" books, full of history and beautiful colored photos. If

your budget wont allow it, try the local library or your local quilt quild

library. Maybe someone on the QHL (book list) has a copy they'd be willing

to lend. (?)

Just borrowed it from a friend of mine to preview and have decided to order

my own.

Highly recommend it!

Victoria

QRestoreaol.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 06:44:00 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Book Order

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Kris, I'll be interested in Camille's book..let me know when available. Am I

correct that it gives the history of the patterns? Tells why they are called

"Variable Star? Log Cabin? etc??" Jane

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 97 19:06:00 GMT

From: l.evans5genie.com

To: qhlcue.com

Subject: QHL: Medieval quilts

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Diane & Ricki -

Sorry it took so long for me to write back - I hurt my left arm and have

been trying not to strain it (it's much better, thank goodness).

Good places to look for medieval and Renaissance quilts are Averil

Colby's book =Quilting=, which is pretty much the standard work on the

subject to date. She has a good picture of a 1390's bedquilt in the

Victoria & Albert Museum in London, a couple of German quilts from about

a hundred years later, and much information on the early quilt trade

from India.

There are also pictures of early quilted objects in Jill Liddell & Yuko

Watanabe's book =Japanese Quilts=, including a quilted shoe from the

ninth century, an elaborately quilted war jerkin from the 15th century,

and a patchwork kimono from the 16th century. Liddell co-authored a

book on ecclesiastical patchwork, =The Patchwork Pilgrimage=, that

includes two photos of very early European patchwork (a 13th century

cope in Toledo cathedral and a 16th century English chasuble owned by a

descendant of the maker).

Beyond these, good places to look are old books on heraldry (patchwork

and applique herald's tabards), and as many books of contemporary

paintings as you can find. There's a very fine representation of a

trapunto coverlet in a 1450 painting by Bartolomeo Bermejo, =The Death

of the Virgin=, showing the Virgin lying on a cream trapunto coverlet.

I've also recently found several Slavic frescoes and icons showing

saints (especially Saint Sava) in patchwork vestments, including

one where the seam lines between the patches are very clearly

painted. Most of these are in the former Yugoslavia and I have no

idea if they survived the Bosnian civil war, but they were intact

and photographed within the last ten years.

The problem with researching early quilting is that very, very few

people have done so. Right now I'm aware of another amateur out in New

Mexico, and a professional named Janine Janniere in Toulouse. She

tracked down a boasting letter by a French tailor in the early 16th

century about how he had made a patchwork banner of 8,000 pieces and

exhibited it in Metz on St. Martin's day. But to my knowledge there is

no comprehensive guide to pre-colonial quilts available in English. I'm

working on writing something along those lines myself, but most of the

research has to be done from scratch.

It's fascinating stuff, though; I started doing it because someone told

me that quilts weren't made in the Middle Ages, and I was determined to

prove him wrong. Amazing, how something can start from a trivial

remark!

Two more things: the first aniline dye was Prussian blue, I believe,

and was synthesized from coal tar. The early ones were harsh and ugly,

but very fashionable because they were largely shades you can't get from

natural dyes. And yes, you *can* get lavender from natural dyes. I did

it myself, completely by accident, by preparing an indigo dyebath in a

pot with a tiny bit of cochineal residue left around the rim. The

cochineal seeped into the indigo bath and dyed the thread a lovely light

purple. I made it about six months ago and it shows no signs of fading,

so it seems to be reasonably colorfast.

Finally, when it comes to beeswax v. parafin, I'd stick to beeswax.

It's basically the same reason why I mark my quilt tops with pencil

instead of those high tech fading pens - I *know* the pencil marks will

wash or fade out without damaging the fabric, but I have no idea of what

the long term effects of the ink will be. Beeswax won't hurt the thread

or cloth in the long run, so I'd go with that.

Hope this helps -

Karen Evans

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:14:08 -0500 (EST)

From: BBMorrisaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: carding cotton batts

Message-ID: <970118161408_240305734emout09.mail.aol.com>

Just this past week I was talking to a friend at church and the subject of

quilts came up. She said that she had never been interested in making a

quilt as she remembered them as being "work". She is in her mid 50's in the

area about 30 - 40 miles north of Atlanta. She helped her mother card cotton

for quilt batting when she was about 9 or 10 years old. She didn't remember

where the cotton came from as her parents had quit farming by then and moved

into town. She was a "late in life" baby so her parents were older than her

friends parents. So, cotton was still being carded for batting in parts of

the south as late as 1950.

As to washing old quiltls, sometimes it is necessary in order to even take

them in the house for them to be washed. I inheirited one of my

Grandmother's quilts that had been stored in an old wooden refrigerator crate

in the upper floor of an old unheated farm house for years. The lower rooms

had fireplaces. The upper rooms didn't. It is in an area that is very

humid. The quilt even felt damp to touch and smelled awful. It had never

been used. I aired it on my deck for two weeks and still could not stand to

be in the same room with it. So washing it was my only choice.

Unfortunately, one of the fabrics had been home dyed a dark green. Now the

entire quilt has a green glow. But, at least, I now have my grandmother's

quilt and the baby grandchildren love to lay on it and look at all of the

different prints and colors in it. It is not a museum piece, but it is

special to me.

Barbara in GA

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:30:40 -0500 (EST)

From: Susiehaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: cleaning quilts

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I am trying to find out how to clean an antique name quilt. All of the

quilters signed their names on the quilt. I don't know if the ink is

permanent. The quilt is red and white. It is over a hundred years old. There

is a little mildew on it, too. Any info will be greatly appreciated :o)

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 97 23:34:00 GMT

From: l.evans5genie.com

To: qhlcue.com

Subject: QHL: Cleaning quilts

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If I had an antique quilt, I'd first take it to the nearest museum with a

textile conservation department and have them take a look at it. It might

be too fragile to clean, or it might be best cleaned by being gently

vacuumed through a scrim. With something old, it's best to make sure.

If it *can* be washed, test whatever soap you're planning to use on a

small section on the back, to make sure there won't be a chemical reaction

that dissolves the fabric. Also, test every fabric for color fastness by

wetting a cotton swab and gently rubbing to see if any of the color comes

off. If it does, even if only one fabric, don't wash the quilt.

If the quilt is strong enough and color fast enough, soak it in cold

water in either a laundry tub or your bathtub. Use the mildest soap

possible (I've had good luck with Dr. Bronner's sal suds - the guy who

makes this soap is a lunatic in California whose wrappers spout a mixture

of what he claims is Essene Judaism and some very odd political theories,

but the soap is great) and let the quilt soak for a while. When it comes

to rinsing, squeeze the suds out as gently as possible and rinse until the

water is clear.

When the water runs clear, spread the quilt out flat to dry - do NOT

put it in the dryer! I've had good luck spreading a wet quilt out in

my backyard on a clean sheet, with another clean sheet over it to protect

it from bird droppings and squirrels. Let it dry on a clear, sunny day.

This has worked well for me; I know there are booklets out there on

caring for old quilts. Any suggestions?

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:49:42 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltFixeraol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: 1930's baby quilt kits?

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I recently went through some things that were my mothers that she had saved

for a long time. In the box were two quilt tops. They were baby quilt tops

with embroderie and applique. The material is obviously 1930's and the base

if very rough muslin. much like the "flour sack" dishtowels my grandmother

used to have. When I asked Mom about them she was a little hazzy about their

history, only that "Aunt May" had made them for me, but they had never been

tyed. Were these kits? Did they come with the design stamped on and perhaps

the material included? Would the muslin soften up if I washed them and then

used softner? I was born in 1934 so the time would be right. Anyone know

more about the history? Would like to do something with them. They are in

very good condition.

Toni Baumgard

QuiltFixeraol.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:31:24 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: 1930's baby quilt kits?

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In re" to the baby quilt kit, it is possible the fabric IS feedsack. I was

surprised to find various items polular today that were made back then

also..the dolls/animals that come in a panel with a front and back..cutting

lines..sew them together leaving a small hole..stuff the doll/dog, then sew

small hole closed..well, they had them back in teh 40's and 50's as

well..also, a would have a pattern on the back with full details as tohow to

embroider/sew it, and wash out the directions..mine is a pinafore..some of my

members have small tot's dresses, blouses, etc..so it is very possible you

have feedsack fabric..and one thing for sure..the more it is washed the

softer it gets..If you would like a few sqs of feedsacks to try to identifly

yur fabric, I would be happy to send them,,is it a white or off white in

color? Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:49:25 -0700

From: kmccoyglenerin.com (Katie McCoy)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Old quilt top

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Hi Merikay (love your name),

Thanks so much for your response and offer to help. I've just posted to the

list that I will be taking photos this weekend. Will have an extra set made

to send you if you send me your snail mail address.

This quilt top is doing something strange to me! (I'm new to this idea of

preservation of *all* quilts.) When my friend first showed it to me, I said

I wasn't interested in finishing someone else's work (barely have time to

do the ones I want to create as it is), but just before she was going to

ditch it, a quilt teacher helped me realize the error of my thoughts and I

quickly contacted my friend. Now it's calling me and I'm getting excited

about it. Could it be haunted?

Again, I sincerely appreciate yours and everyone's interest,

Katie in Colorado

"A Quilting Sew & Sew"

kmccoyglenerin.com

>Katie--I read your message on the quilt history list. I've posted a message

>to you on the board because I, too, agree we ought to be responding to each

>other's questions on the board so others can hear (and learn). But . . . I

>wanted to also ak you directly to tr to describe the quilttop you mentioned.

> If you take a photo and send it to me, it would be even easier to date and

>identify. I have lots of 1930s-1950s catalogs for quilt patterns and kits.

> I might be able to identify the top--the date, patern name, and company.

> Please e-mail me and answer on the list. Thanks. Merikay Waldvogel

> quiltaliveaol.com

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 07:43:43 -0500 (EST)

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Off to Lexington

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Dear Gang,

I talked DH into letting me take him on a romantic weekend - visiting the

Red and Green Antique Quilts in Lexington MA:-)) He just loves it when I

take him on these educational excusions. Don't worry, I'll take lots of

pictures!

But I will be away until Monday night as we are sight seeing and visiting on

the way back. Be good, now! (Gee, do you think I have too many kids?)

Kris

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:08:12 -0500 (EST)

From: MHerron4aol.com

>Heather wrote -

Also, can anyone help me in finding a book with patterns for doing a

penny square quilt.>

Dear Heather et al. January 18, 1997

I just recieved the new Spring Keepsake catalog and they sell a book in it

with penny square patterns. You can request a catalog be sent to you at

their web site which is http://www.keepsakequilting.com

I love their catalogs as they always give me lots of ideas. Their website is

new and under construction so at this point about all you can do there is

request a catalog.

Good luck with your quilt, hope this has been useful. Mary H.

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:59:32 +0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettpo.fast.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: NJ Museum Shows

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A thank you to QHL, with special thanks to Rayna and Cinda, for posting about

the wonderful quilt shows in Newark and New Brunswick, NJ. Were it not for

this list, I would not have known about these shows, which I was fortunate to

see on Saturday. Please continue to post about local museum shows in your

area. Neither of these were advertised in my papers, and I was only 2 hours

away from each. Museums have low budgets, and we need to network so many

can enjoy the quilts.

An additional note about the Newark Museum. They have in their gift shop a

book of postcards published by Dover Books which pictures most of the quilts on

exhibit. Also, if you ask at the information desk and sign a waiver saying you

will not publish nor profit in any way, you can take pictures, nonflash. I was

glad to find both of these benefits.

The Lancaster County Amish Quilts at Rudgers in New Brunswick were not able to

be photographed, and there were no flyers or anything about the show. But

intense viewing of 30+ quilts is an overwhelming experience. Some observations

for those unable to attend --

I knew that Lancaster Amish quilts were machine pieced. I have seen bindings

that were applied by machine also. But there was a quilt in the exhibit with

machine quilting -- a double nine patch on point with spacer blocks. The

blocks and spacer blocks were machine quilted around the edge, and the inside

edge of the inner border was machine quilted. Everything else was hand

quilted. Has anyone else seen quilts with machine quilting? Is this unusual,

or more typical than we have been led to believe? This is the first I have

seen, but I have not studied traditional Amish quilts first hand. The date on

this quilt was 1900, and had initials embroidered on the back.

There also was a double Irish chain, with the corner squares in the spacer

blocks appliqued on by machine. Since wool is thicker than cotton, these

squares really laid on top of the quilt surface, instead of what we usually

see in cotton Irish chains were those corners tend to lie flat. This quilt was

dated 1920.

Two wonderful exhibits that I was able to attend because of QHL. Thanks for

the information.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:22:08 -0500 (EST)

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: 1930's baby quilt kits?

Message-ID: <970119202207_615793038emout18.mail.aol.com>

Toni,

I would suggest you contact Shirley McElderry about your quilt kits. She

has been researching patterns from this era for childrens's quilts....maybe

she can help. If you have photos of them, you might mail those to her for

more definite info. Here is her address:

Shirley McElderry

3655-91st Ave.

Ottumwa, IA 52501-9136

ph 515-684-7483

Shirley does quilt restoration - doesn't have a modem yet, though. Good

luck!! Karan

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:33:56 -0700

From: kmccoyglenerin.com (Katie McCoy)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Old quilt top

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On 1-1697 Merikay said:

>> you wondered how to date an applique a quilt top (c.

>>1940s-40s) your friend found. You said the top was basted for applique,

>>but not sewn down. Would you please describe the design, colors, etc.?

The top is lavender background blocks, but interestingly enough, some of

the blocks are pieced as though they were not cut large enough the first

time. Basted onto background blocks are calico sunflowers, flowers are all

different fabrics & colors, centers all yellow, stems "poison green" and in

flowerpots of varing colors. Blocks are machine sewn together, applique has

edge turned with basting and then whole flower & pot basted onto block. Top

is twin size, blocks don't all meet well in the corners but the edges seem

to be even which makes me think that if I measured each block I would find

all different sizes! A few of the yellow centers have already been

appliqued already in a fairly visible fashion but the edge turned basting

hasn't been removed. Some of the centers look completely round and well

turned, others look poorly rounded and turned. The flowers seem a bit

stiff, not sure if it's starch or age. Blocks seem softer though. I'm quite

certain all fabrics are cotton. Some of the basting threads are coming out

and I have re-basted things down to keep them in place. Would hate to lose

a leaf or flower pot.

I plan to finish the quilt. I'm not concerned that it be an heirloom, but

would like to keep it from deteriorating further. What would you suggest as

a backing and quilting pattern to remain at least as true to it's times as

possible?

Thanks for your help,

Katie in Colorado

"A Quilting Sew & Sew"

kmccoyglenerin.com

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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:47:33 -0800

From: harlemanmicron.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Glitch gone, I'm baaaack!

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QHListserve, Thnx for your patience. Maybe the problems are over; then

again, maybe not. In the meantime, I have a full day today (in addition

to reading 71! messages) so will have to wait til Tue or Wed to resume

list. So many are saying they did not receive any of them, so I guess

I'll have to start over. ? Any more input on what was recived? By the

way, I had better plans for today than hanging on a tech line for over

two hours in three calls; it just happens to be my and DH's 34

anniversary. Sharon in gray, gray (and it just stopped snowing HUGE

flakes, but it only snowed for about 15 minutes) Boise. PS The last time

it snowed like that we ended up with over 1 1/2 ft of snow and I was in

John Flynn's workshop on Arabic Lattice. Fun day.

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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:59:41, -0500

From: LWKB50Aprodigy.com ( KENNETH K REGAN)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: bio and old blocks

Message-Id: <199701202159.QAA37304mime3.prodigy.com>

Hi to all. I've been enjoying QHL for a week or so, and just found

out how to post a note. I became interested in the history of

quilts after 2 separate sets of quilt blocks were given to me. One

set of blocks was done by my great-grandmother, the other set by my

DH's gr. grand-m. I like the book reviews and have ordered several

that were reccomended on QHL. I'm anxious to learn more about dating

quilts. I'll describe the blocks that I have. The first set is 9

blocks about 18" on a rough off white muslin. Each block has 4

butterflies hand-appliqued on. They are all different fabrics. In

the center of the blocks are embroidered flowers. They were made in

the 30's. I made it into a quilt for my mom. If anyone has heard of

a pattern like that, I would like to hear any info. you can offer.

The second set of blocks (20 of them) are in the pattern Mosaic. The

colors are blue, gold-yellow, and white. I'm guessing these were

done in the 40's. The blue almost looks like a polished cotton,

since it's rather shiny. I washed them in ORVUS, and are piecing

them together by hand. Again, any info would be great! Thanks!

Tiffany

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From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Brackman Book

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I am not familiar with Camille's book on quilt restoration.

I use Barbara Brackman's book every day.

It is simply block illustrations of over 4,000 pieced blocks. Each one has

every source that Barbara has researched and found for the block...that is

every place that it was printed. Newspapers, magazines, books. etc.

They illustrations of the blocks are in categories (four patch, nine patch,

etc) and numbered. The index at the back of the book has an alphabetical

list of every block in the book.

Many of the blocks have several names. There are often more than one block

design for a single name.

I use the book to identify blocks, by looking at all the pictures in a

certain category.

I use the book when i want to make a new quilt and want to find a block to use.

It is a great reference book.

No text to speak of....just 4,000 plus illustrations and sources.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:59:21 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: 

well...i did wonder about the silence of this group.....everyone was so vocal!

I only got the occasional message from the list in the past ten days.

I am glad the glitches are worked out.

I love this list.

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:06:48 -0500 (EST)

From: Tubeywoobyaol.com

To: QHL-Digestcue.com

Subject: Donkey quilts

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Dear Quilters,

I have been listening in for about a month, thoroughly enjoying all the

quilt chat.

I meant to respond earlier to a requset for any info on a donkey quilt that

someone had found. I have a GREAT book called Great Little Quilts by Eleanor

Levie (published 1990 by H.N. Abrams, Inc.,N.Y.). There is a whole section

describing elephant and donkey quilts which were campaign related, pattern

originally published (June 6, 1931 for elephant and July 22, 1931 for donkey)

in the Kansas City Star. They are mosaic pictorial small quilts.

Thanks for letting me eaves drop for the last month. I'm glad I could get

my two cents worth in!

Quilting in warm Houston,TX., Melissa

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:15:37 -0500 (EST)

From: Tubeywoobyaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Donkey quilts

Message-ID: <970121081535_1110440924emout15.mail.aol.com>

Dear Quilters,

I have been listening in for about a month, thoroughly enjoying all the

quilt chat.

I meant to respond earlier to a requset for any info on a donkey quilt that

someone had found. I have a GREAT book called Great Little Quilts by Eleanor

Levie (published 1990 by H.N. Abrams, Inc.,N.Y.). There is a whole section

describing elephant and donkey quilts which were campaign related, pattern

originally published (June 6, 1931 for elephant and July 22, 1931 for donkey

- named Giddap) in the Kansas City Star. They are mosaic pictorial small

quilts.

Thanks for letting me eavesdrop for the last month. I'm glad I could get my

two cents worth in!

Quilting in warm Houston,TX., Melissa

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:08:42

From: "MARY PERSYN" <MPERSYNwesemann.valpo.edu>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: New Books (to me)

Message-ID: <139AE8837F2wesemann.law.valpo.edu>

I paid another visit to Quilting Books Unlimited in Batavia, IL

last Saturday and dropped another bundle of money. (They like to

see me coming <g>). I thought some of you might be interested in

my latest purchases. I'll give a short description based just on

a scanning of the books. Haven't had time to read them all yet.

Oliver, Celia Y. ed., 55 FAMOUS QUILTS FROM THE SHELBURNE MUSEUM IN

FULL COLOR. New York: Dover, 1990. ISBN 0-486-26474-2

This is a Dover book that I had not seen before. Unusual for a

Dover publication, it has color pictures of 55 absolutely

gorgeous quilts from the Shelburne. Makes me want to take a

trip to Vermont. (Pat Lyons, how far is it from Syracuse to

Shelburne, VT?)

Kraybill, Donald B., Herr, Patricia T., Holstein, Jonathan, A

QUIET SPIRIT: AMISH QUILTS FROM THE COLLECTION OF CINDY TIETZE

& STUART HODOSH. Los Angeles: UCLA Fowler Museum of Cultural

History, 1996. ISBN 0-930741-53-6

This is the catalog from the show that was at the Fowler Museum

at UCLA. I can't remember whether the show was discussed here

or on Quiltnet. The book has three essays as well as pictures

of the quilts in the exhibit. The essays are: Quiltwork of

Amish Culture by Kraybill; Quilts within the Amish Culture by

Herr; and In Plain Sight: The Aesthetics of Amish Quilts by

Holstein. I can't wait to read this one.

von Gwinner, Schnuppe, THE HISTORY OF THE PATCHWORK QUILT:

ORIGINS, TRADITIONS AND SYMBOLS OF A TEXTILE ART. West Chester,

PA: Schiffer Publishing Ltd., 1988. (Translated from German.

Original title Die Geschichte des Patchworkquilts). ISBN 0-88740-136-

8

I was reminded of this book when reading yesterday's message

about "really old" quilts. (I don't have access to my legacy

mail' at the moment so can't look up who sent the message).

Anyway, this books has pictures, some black and white, some in

color, of quilted items from many different time periods. For

example, it contains pictures of a Sicilian wall hanging c.

1395; a quilted linen blanket from Germany from the 16th

century; and a saddle blanket from the Altai Mountains, 5th

century BC. It looks really interesting.

Freeman, Roland L., A COMMUNION OF THE SPIRITS: AFRICAN-AMERICAN

QUILTERS, PRESERVERS, AND THEIR STORIES. Nashville, TN: Rutledge

Hill Press, 1996. ISBN 1-55853-425-3

The author traveled around the United States interviewing and

taking pictures of African-American quilters. Many of the

pictures are of the quilters with their quilts.

The following book didn't come from QBU. I got it at the museum

shop at the Museum of American History (part of the Smithsonian)

in Washington DC. It has wonderful closeups of the Harriet

Powers' Bible Quilt.

Perry, Regina A., HARRIET POWERS'S BIBLE QUILT. Rizzoli Art

Series. New York: Rizzoli International Publications, 1994.

(Distributed by St. Martin's Press). ISBN 0-8478-1653-2

Sorry for the bandwidth, but I thought some of you would be

intrested in these titles. I don't work for either QBU or the

Smithsonian, but I support them with my purchases.

BTW, Rob Roberts from QBU told me Saturday that CLUES IN THE

CALIO is not out of print, but that some distributors

find it difficult to get ahold of. He doesn't know why.

Mary from finally warming, and now slushy, Valparaiso, IN

Mary G. Persyn mpersynwesemann.valpo.edu

Law Librarian (219) 465-7838

School of Law Library FAX: (219) 465-7917

Valparaiso University

Valparaiso, IN 46383

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:19:51 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Irish Chain

Message-Id: <199701211509.HAA04882orbital.cue.com>

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Barb mentioned the corner squares of an Irish Chain being appliqued on top

(by machine?). My grandmother did hers that way - but she wasn't Amish.

She made a beautiful Irish Chain in blues & grays on white - one of her

better quilts. I actually liked the appliqued corner squares, as it

eliminates the seam necessary if you would piece those squares in. I go to

great lengths to eliminate seams. Hate quilting over them. BTW, my

grandmother did her by hand.

Ricki in PA, granddaughter of the wild & crazy quiltin' Jessie Mae Watson

Cremer of Mt. Orab, Ohio, who mixed colors with abandon & wore way too much

jewelry (is that where I get it?)

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:04:01 +0000

From: "Kathleen Duvall" <nanwkshplc.gulfnet.com>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Old Fabric

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DH is miraculous at finding me old quilts. He brought home two

last weekend ($5 each!). One is an intricately pieced and quilted

star that I put on display, and the other is definitely a utility

quilt. It consists entirely of sewn-together squares forming no

pattern and is not quilted very expertly, but I fell in love with it!

I threw it on the back of the couch and have already taken a nap

under it.

Beautiful weather today and I took the opportunity to wash all the

bedding, including this quilt. It fared very well except that one

patch has disintigrated. I was very fortunate to have a stash of

30's fabric and patched it with a piece of that and you couldn't tell

now which one it was.

Which brings me to my question. I was very lucky to come across this

fabric at a garage sale recently. There are yards and yards of it!!

Some of the fabric still has the tag attached (5 yards for 59

cents!!!). There are some solid colors like green and blues and a

lot of prints. I was thinking of making a quilt from this fabric --

maybe just a simple 9-patch -- but was wondering if I should preserve

the fabric as is.

There are so many knowledgable people on this list, perhaps you can

advise me. Would it be heresy to cut up this fabric? If I do,

should I wash it first, and how should I wash it? Should I seek out

some particular pattern to do it justice?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Kathleen in Florida

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:44:00 GMT

From: l.evans5genie.com

To: qhlcue.com

Subject: QHL: Old Quilts

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Mary - thanks a million for the tip on the von Gwinner book. I think I

know all three pieces you mentioned (the 1395 one is actually a wedding

quilt, done in trapunto), but I don't have good pictures of most of them.

Is it still in print? And was it terribly expensive? (gulp)

Thanks!

Karen EVANS

L.EVANS5GENIE.GEIS.COM

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:15:15 -0500

From: mrbillmagicnet.net (Bill Wohlfart)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Vermont

Message-Id: <199701220414.XAA08534magicnet.magicnet.net>

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I was lucky enough to get to Vermont last year and really enjoyed the quilts

at the Shelbourne Museum. Well worth the trip.

Also loved the Renwick Show. I Think it closes next week. Really nice to

see the really old fabrics and the tiny hand work that was done.

Waiting for the book to come out!

Jeanann in Orlando

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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:53:43 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: "black" cotton?

Message-Id: <199701220343.TAA23064orbital.cue.com>

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Hi everyone. Big question here. Have any of you ever heard of "black

cotton"? Reason for the question - there is an interesting old, old quilt

in our local history museum, The Lycoming County Historical Museum in

Williamsport, PA. This quilt, at some point in history, had it's back

removed! Yep - all the quilting stitches were clipped, some still hanging

in the fabric, but the back is gone. What's even more interesting is that

the batting is still stuck to the back of the quilt top! The batting is not

completely white. There is a large portion of the batting that is very

dark, but still appears to be cotton - very long fibers. I was puzzled by

this, but while reading Sandi Fox's "Small Endearments" last night, saw a

reference to "black cotton" in a diary quote. Anyone else familiar with this?

Also, wondered if I should put a layer of netting on the back of this quilt

so that is doesn't come apart with time. BTW, this quilt is probably 1840s

& in extremely fragile condition. Any comments?

Ricki in PA

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:00:19 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL:Fur Quilts

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Hi, Hiranya,

I think your idea sounds really neat! I tried making rabbit fur mittens

many years ago. What I learned from sewing those and sewing fake-fur

material

is that you should try to stitch through the backing/skin and keep the

fur

out of the way. Then the fur covers up the seamline on the front. You may

even have to trim a little of the fur away in the seam allowance area. I

had

to purchase a special needle used for sewing leather and I had to sew by

hand because my machine was not powerful enough to sew through the

leather.

I do believe, however, that you can purchase machine needles specifically

made for stitching leather. As for backing, thinking back to when I was a

youngster and my mom had a mink-stole -- I think just backing with a nice

satin fabric would be lovely. You wouldn't have to "quilt" it necessarily

and you definitely wouldn't need any batting! The satiny feel would be a

delightful contrast in texture/feel to the fur on the other side. Maybe

you

could start out small and just make a pillow or something. My stepmom

bought

a mink-stole at a yard sale once for only $25 and carefully took it apart

and

made a teddy bear out of the fur. It's gorgeous!

Have fun! Good luck!

Susan Crown

Springfield, Ohio

where the temps are dropping to 10 farenheit and the wind chill is -25!!

scrownwittenberg.edu

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:24:07 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: "black" cotton?

Message-ID: <970122062406_135037148emout12.mail.aol.com>

Ricki, I have a friend and member of THE FEEDSACK CLUB who is an expert on

cotton. She does on-going research and is going to be very interested in

your post. I would like to send it to her and have her contact you

withinput. Her name is Anna Lue Cook and wrote the bible on feedsacks..she

herself picked cotton as a child. Jane

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:00:50 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Use of indigos fabrics?

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Pam...i can give an explanation from my family who were early Michigan Pioneers.

My aunt, who was not a pioneer..., but who was born in 1906 on a dairy farm

in Michigan says that the blue indigo fabrics were used to make the work

shirts for the men and the work aprons for the women. It was as common as

muslin and being a darker color suited to the hard work. They were

purchased in abundance and by the bolt. remember that fabric on the bolt

was narrower and there were not as many yards per bolt as we use today. So

a large farm and large family would use a lot of blue indigo.

The little strawberry pink prints were also purchased by the bolt to make

pinafores for little girls. They wore the pinafores over all their dresses

as it was easier to sew and wash a pinafore than it was to sew and wash a

long dress.

I have a quilt made by my great grandmother out of lots of pink and blue

fabrics that were leftovers from sewing the shirts and the pinafores. She

had 15 children, 6 boys, 9 girls.

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:09:52 +1000

From: Sven Olsson <svenpnc.com.au>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re Use of indigo fabrics

Message-ID: <32E611A0.3304pnc.com.au>

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Jean Ann

I am trying to gather information pre 1900 fabrics so your note really

interested me.

The little strawberry prints that you mentioned, are they also known as

double pinks?

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:40:15 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: 

i purchase old tops and blocks and i do finish them. I feel very

comfortable doing this. they are everyday quilts blocks/tops as my budget

wont allow me to buy anything that is of museum quality. or even close to.

however, i do recognize and respect museum quality quilts and if one ever

fell into my hands i would treat it with the utmost respect, as a curator

would want.

i like to think that the women who started the quilts would be happy that

they are finished. they are just every day quilts. i am finishing one very

nice 1930 Rose Wreath quilt now and i will be using it as my summer quilt

on my own bed.

i vote for choices....at 55 i have had too many oughts and shoulds in my life.

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:25:53 EST

From: debatqpsjuno.com (debra a welch)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #19

Message-ID: <19970122.082017.6470.2.debatqpsjuno.com>

Hi everyone, I went a little crazy when I placed my last book order for

the shop and ordered some of the books on the list and a few others I

came across. I sold two already that I didn't get a chance to look at

before they went : ( but I did snag one that I haven't seen posted yet.

PIONEER QUILTMAKER, THE STORY OF DORINDA MOODY SLADE 1808-1895 by

Carolyn O'Bagy Davis. One of the ones that sold was QUILTS FROM THE

THIRTIES by Sara Nephew. That one I did peek at, it had copies of old

newspaper ads for sewing machines, fabric and copies of the old quilt

pattern columns that appeared in the papers in the 30s. There was also

an anthology of short quilt stories that looked really neat but I didn't

get to do more than page through it before it sold. I have the name of

that one at the shop and will look it up if anyone is interested. I can

still get Clues in Calico, one came in yesterday, so I know its still

available.

Debbie in NJ

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:50:28

From: "MARY PERSYN" <MPERSYNwesemann.valpo.edu>

To: L.EVANS5GENIE.GEIS.COM, QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: von Gwinner Book

Message-ID: <151611D7E5Fwesemann.law.valpo.edu>

I don't know whether the book is still in print, but it IS listed in

QBU's latest catalog and I just bought a copy of it there on

Saturday. The amazing thing is that it costs $16.95!

You might want to give Quilting Books Unlimited a call at 800-347-

3261.

Yes, the Sicilian piece is a trapunto wedding quilt. Some of the

pictures in the book are black and white, others are color. I think

the Sicilian one is a b & w.

Glad to be of help.

Mary

Mary G. Persyn mpersynwesemann.valpo.edu

Law Librarian (219) 465-7838

School of Law Library FAX: (219) 465-7917

Valparaiso University

Valparaiso, IN 46383

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:19:59 -0500 (EST)

From: DReyno3650aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re Use of indigo fabrics

Message-ID: <970122121204_980743967emout07.mail.aol.com>

Hi:

Just curious, but were the double pink fabrics for pinafores made of

dimity? Dimity was a thinner fabric than percale that had thick and thin

weft(? the lengthwise of the fabric threads) that made it almost transparent

in the thin parts.

a lurker: Willa Dean Reynolds,

Soquel CA

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:23:54, -0500

From: LWKB50Aprodigy.com ( KENNETH K REGAN)

To: qhlcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: new book

Message-Id: <199701221723.MAA49458mime3.prodigy.com>

Hi to all! I just got a notice from Amazon books that a new book is

available: Above & Beyond Basics: A Medley of Quilted Memories by

Karen Buckley, pub. by Collector Books, $17.06. Has anyone heard of

this one or read it? I'm trying to be very selective on books that

I purchase for "budget" reasons, so I would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks! Tiffany

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:54:55 -0500 (EST)

From: Quiltfixaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Old Quilts

Message-ID: <970122124513_173800756emout12.mail.aol.com>

Well, I finally caught up reading all the QHL from the weekend. Whew!

I read today (Wed) that Kathleen in Florida found 30's yardage. First off,

I'm so thouroughly green with envy it isn't funny! It is hard to find

yardage here where I am in Florida. I always seem to have to go out of

state. But regarding using it, well, it depends on whether you have quilts

that need rescuing or if you want to start a fabric collection. While others

will agree with me regarding this, there is no rule stating you can't cut up

yardage. You did, however, describe tags and such still attached, which

indicates that the fabric has never been washed. That means a buildup of 60

years' dirt. Dirt is abrasive and the fabric should be washed very gently if

your going to use it (I'm ambivalent about washing it and removing tags if it

is for a collection - collectibles are usually more valuable if the item is

as intact as possible as it was at the original point of sale). When I wash

an old quilt, I am ALWAYS amazed at the dirt that comes out of seemingly

clean pieces. But if you want to use it, I'd say go for it.

As for restoration in general, I've come through a long evolution in my

opinion of it. There is always a time and a place for everything. Not every

piece should be restored. But then not every piece should be conserved.

About 10% of my collection (45+) is truly a piece that I will donate to a

museum eventually (probably over my - literally - dead body!). The rest are

lovely and worthy of being kept, but you can't treat them all alike. My silk

baby-block quilt, if not restored, will someday get thrown away because of

its condition. That's not to say it isn't stunning now, but the main black

silk is disintegrating and won't be around a long time. It must be restored

so that it will continue to be loved. But then, I have another 1871 star

quilt in nearly perfect condition but for one block where the black stripes

are going. I won't touch this, because I know this will be donated

eventually and is important to the history of qulting.

We have to go beyond over-sentimentalizing the quilts and understand that not

all are important. The 1930's quilts I've restored all are lovely, but many

seem to have the same problems of poor fabrics and hard use/washing. The

better ones need to be restored.

There is also another problem with saving the quilts as they are. In my

business, I often come across people who love the quilts, but for whom it

doesn't matter if the quilts are intact. They want to fix them and use

whatever fabric is most cost effective (of course, some want vintage). They

want to be able to put them on the bed and sleep under them. I am always

truthful in my opinions on the use the quilts should experience (I turn away

business if the proposed restoration is not appropriate).

I've gotta stop. I'm beginning to lose the train of thoughts. Thanks for

the pointers on the poly/cotton batts. I changed the needle (how obvious can

you get) and it has helped, but I am going back to cotton - I rarely use

man-made materials).

Alan

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:16:08 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: not dimity

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

the pinafores are definitely not dimity. they are cotton, they were used

for everyday wear so sturdy fabrics were needed. it was definitely cotton

:-)

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:12:02 PST

From: psierajuno.com (Pam D Siera)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: American Quilter

Message-ID: <19970122.124719.9566.23.PSierajuno.com>

When you'all talk about American Quilter you aren't refering to American

Quilting and Patchwork are you? I picked up a copy of that and while I

enjoyed all the quilt recipes I don't think it's what you are referring to.

Could you enlighten me and share a way of obtaining a copy? TIA Pam

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:21:47 PST

From: psierajuno.com (Pam D Siera)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #16

Message-ID: <19970122.124719.9566.24.PSierajuno.com>

Thanks Victoria for you comments on the shoulds and should-nots,

I don't know why my mother's cedar chest hasn't stained her

Sunbonnet Sue quilt but it hasn't, perhaps it's the fact that the chest

is only 10 years younger than the 60 year old quilt. After my daughter

put in about 10 hours fixing the appliques I sent it off to college with

her. I did tell her not to have all her friends sitting on it on her bed

and to keep it out of direct sunlight so that she wouldn't have more

hours of repair work to do. This DD is the one who treasures all the

dumb quilts I've made over her lifetime including the replica I made her

to go off to college with. She took her Strawberry shortcake comforter

with her too! I used this quilt myself as a young child on my bed and

it's sat in the cedar chest ever since. It's not a work of art by any

means while I hope DD passes it on I want her to enjoy it because I know

she will more than the cedar chest.

Pam in Santa Rosa

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:43:02 -0800

From: harlemanmicron.net

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: cedar chests and dimity

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Regarding the reasons for taking stored and valued textiles out of cedar

chests, they are: it's not the stains (never saw any caused by cedar)

it's the resins in cedar. Cedar has far more acidic resins than most

other woods which cause deterioration of textiles (including laces,

etc.) I think it is ironic that so many of our treasures from the past

were kept safe for us in cedar chests, but perhaps they would have

lasted much longer had they _not_ been in cedar.

As to dimity vs cotton: "apples to oranges"? : dimity is a type of

weave, cotton is a fiber. Sharon in half gray/half blue-skyed Boise.

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:29:02 -0500 (EST)

From: HKnight453aol.com

One can buy special needle made for leather from a German concern whose name

I can't recall, but the quality is excellent. Also, the Vogue Sewing Book

has some useful tips on sewing with fur. In my experience, sew by machine

and use a large darning needle to pick the plush out from the seams.

However, this was with faux fur. Also, cut from the back.

Heather from warm and drizzling RI

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