Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:06:43 -0500 (EST)

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>

Well, I did go to the Red and Green Exhibit at the Museum of our National

Heritage this weekend. I got to meet Merikay Walvogel and she was

wonderful! Very nice person. I took her picture & will post it to the web

page as soon as it is developed. As far as the exhibit goes - I was a bit

overwhelmed. So many perfect quilts! Including an exceptional broderie

perse. The Museum seems to maintain a permanent quilt exhibit. They had a

display area just for quilts. The quilts were hung (on a hanging sleeve, I

think) in a little niche, with plastic covering the niche so you couldn't

touch it:-((

The part I liked the best was the workshop. 83 local residents brought in

their quilts and Marikay did a "show and tell" for each one. My husband

promptly volunteered to help hold up the quilts, so he got to see them all

first hand, and sometimes talk to the owner. Most of the quilts were family

owned, and the owners were more than happy to share their story. There were

two or three perfect Red and Green Quilts, two early 1800's chintz quilts,

one extremely nice crazy quilt, and one that defied description. It was

made of folded pieces of fabric, almost like rows of prairie points facing

in. It had a name, but I can't think of it at the moment. Anyone know what

that technique is called? Naturally, it was the heaviest quilt there!

The next day, we stopped and saw Camille Cognac on the way home. She sold

me all she had of "Quilt Restoration, a Practical Guide", but will order

more for me. (If anyone wants one, they are $24 each, and I will ask her to

sign it for you.) She had this really beautiful wool challis bathrobe out

on a table, dating from the Civil War. I have to admit, it did amaze me. I

had not seen anything like it before, and I didn't realize how much wool

challis felt like polyester. The colors were exceptionally vivid, and the

buttons were upside down yo-yo's!

I did ask her about the book she is working on now, Victorian Beauties. The

official reason for the delay is that the book is "under production". The

REAL reason is that she simply wrote too much & is now paring it down. She

has lots of other irons in the fire, too. The woman is a dynamo.

While we were there, we talked to a fabric designer who is coming out with a

new line of reproduction fabrics in early February. I asked if I could have

a discount for my list members & she agreed to sign me up and send me a

brochure. I'll post to the web page if and when it becomes a reality.

Meanwhile, I am still looking into bulk buys on the more popular books. I

am trying to find "Just New from the Mills" - does anyone know who publishes

this? I called the Museum of American Textile History, and they didn't have

any copies left, and couldn't refer me to anyone who did. I did find two

childrens books, "Quilting Then and Now" and "Cotton Then and Now" for $6.50

each, and I will be ordering them for anyone who wants one.

I also called the American Quilt Study Group, and they had heard of us!

They agreed to a discount for us on "Uncoverings", which is their

professional journal, but I don't have any details yet. I have had a couple

of suggestions from y'all, and I will keep looking into the books you want.

I'll post to the web pages as I find them.

Kris

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:11:32 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL:Books

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Just remembered, for those who are interested in world quilt history like

me,a great book thet I do not think has been menrtioned yet.

It's called " Quilt Treasures-The Quilters Guild Heritage Search" First

Published in 1995 in Australia & New Zealand by Kangaroo Press Pty Ltd.

ISBN 0 86417 7135.

This book is the result of a three year study by the British Guild-it's

first national index of quilts made prior to 1960 . 4000 + items emerged,

from traditional British mosaic patterns, wholecloth quilts from Wales

and North Englland,eighteenth century pieced framed quilt

,Bible,signature,friendship,military,political quilts etc. The earliest

quilt dates from the early 1600's. There are Red Cross quilts from

Canada sent as war relief ,American 1930's kit quilts,Egyptian applique

panels and Chinese embroidery. There are more than 170 colour

illustrations and enlightening chapters written by U.K.'s leading

authorities on subjects ranging from textiles to quilt care. Basically

it's a superb book.

Bye Again! Hiranya from Parramatta, Sydney Australia

e-mail nomad1ibm.net

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:22:10 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL:Historical names of colours

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Hi All!

Still roasting here in sunny Sydney----I would love to get some snow from

you guys!!!

I would like to excite my brain cells a tad and get some information re

how colour names were derived?

I have learned a bit about Madder, but how about Eli Green? Who was Eli

Green? What other unusual names are there?

Has anyone had any luck locating the "Rising Sun" collection.? I managed

to get some from Vintage & Vogue,but there are still gaps in my

collection. Even if I get samples of the full collection I will be happy,

just as examples of it.Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks Hiranya

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:50:30 -0800

From: lrobinscclink.fhcrc.org (laurarm)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: more on shoulds/quilting old tops

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I am feeling quite embarassed because I think that a posting I made

earlier was misinterpreted. It wasn't meant to be a list of shoulds

and shouldn'ts -- on the contrary I was trying to debunk some commonly

held shoulds and offer alternatives. And I'm sorry if anyone was

offended. May I try once more?

First -- old quilt tops don't *have* to be quilted. There seems to be

a belief that it is incomplete and without value until its a useful

quilt. But perhaps it's OK to just leave it alone. Even if it's not

a Dior, of museum quality, it has value because it is a completed

piece of needlework, and it's old, and there is not an endless supply.

This is NOT saying "don't" quilt it. It's just to say that the top

still has value unquilted and will have even more as time goes on.

And its color and design can still be enjoyed and displayed even if it

isn't a quilt we can wrap up in.

Second - not all restorations are good restorations, and maybe some

are not desirable. This list has many restoration professionals, but

not everyone has that expertise. And there are differing opinions

even among the experts. Caution is the operative word.

Victoria said that owners should be given information and choices and

I completely agree. That information must include the fact that an

old piece that has been modified might lose some of it's monetary or

historical value. Those choices must include the alternative of doing

nothing, or only what is essential to preserve the piece.

Third, and this is perhaps more incendiary - yes an owner can do

whatever they want with a piece. But perhaps it would be nice if

rather than using it up just because we can, that we consider using it

less so that we can pass it along.

Example - a friend had some lovely Chinese embroideries brought from

China in 1923. There was a small eyeglass case and a small sort of

purse, made of silk and beautifully embroidered including gold thread

and sections of Seed Stitch (Forbidden Stitch). They weren't museum

pieces, but still very lovely and unusual. She displayed them on a

wide window sill and in just a couple years they were terribly faded

and starting to deteriorate badly. She had been told that sun was bad

for them but her attitude was that they were hers and she would

display them the way she wanted, and that she had pleasure while they

were there. I personally wish that she had seen herself as custodian

rather than user. Yes, it was her right, but I think it was a sad

loss.

So, again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone. The only "should" is that

we should consider all the possibilities, and I just wanted to bring

up these particular ones.

Laura Robins-Morris, Seattle

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:21:58 -0500 (EST)

From: Laurajbraol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Museum/books

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Kris

The quilt you mentioned made up of the prairie points is called a Target

quilt. When my friend from Black Mountain, NC, came to do an antique quilt

talk/sale, she had one with her that was originally from the RJ Reynolds

estate and it sold for $6,000! (and there were two ladies each bidding on

it!) It was extremely heavy, as you mentioned, and was one of the most

unusual quilts I've ever seen. I wonder if this was the same quilt. It was

purchased by a lady named Connie from lakeland, FL, but it may have moved to

another home. As I recall, it was in browns and beiges.

Laura in Tampa

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:24:58 -0600

From: "herbilady" <herbiladysoftwareplus.net>

To: <QHLcue.com>

Subject: QHL: Newbie to list

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I'm very excited to have found this list and want to thank all of you for

the wonderful information you share....this is the mail I love to sit with

first thing in the morning with a cup of coffee. Its also prompted me to

drag out my VERY small collection and wonder about these tops and

blocks....

I'm a novice at this and the first question I'd like to ask is what books

you would recommend to someone like myself for studying and identifying

fabrics in order to date the few pieces that I've collected. I'd also be

grateful if I could send a photograph or two to someone for the purpose of

perhaps dating one piece I have - and adore -, in particular. Its a

bow-tie coverlet with alternating squares of a pale green. Parts of the

top have rust-colored stains and within some of these stains the fabric

appears to have been eaten away. The bow ties are sewn from what I would

venture to guess are shirting fabrics, those tiny prints on white, but

there are also plaids and a few dark fabrics as well. The range of colors

are the light shirtings, browns, grays, black and dark blue. The coverlet

is backed with a light colored, very faded fabric which appears to have

been a rather large floral print. I've never washed it.

A few of the bow ties haven't held up, although the majority of them are in

wonderful shape, especially the shirting fabrics. A few of the fabrics

have completely deteriorated and some of them simply need to be re-sewn in

several places. The blocks were sewn by hand then put together with a

machine.

I'd like to preserve this piece and although there is a section where those

stains have tattered the pale green fabric, I wonder what I can do to

preserve the blocks and coverlet in general. It was never quilted.

Thank you for any help or suggestions and for providing such a wonderful

list!

Leah in SalKarenw, Oklahoma

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:07:38 -0500 (EST)

From: Quiltfixaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Black Cotton

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Ricki, regarding the dark cotton - I don't remember where I read it, but I

know that there are cottons that grow in colors. Someone was even trying to

market clothing in the last couple of years using these cottons and not dying

the resulting fabric. Not a lot of help, but it is possibly an old variant

on the new colored cottons.

Alan

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 15:10:52 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

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I don't know about Karen Buckley's book (try getting it through

inter-library loan before deciding whether to buy it) but her quilts are

gorgeous. She's from Carlyle, PA and is coming to teach at my guild,

Pennsylvania Quilters, in May. I've heard that she's a very good teacher.

She's won awards at the Fort Washington show the last two years.

Cinda in Scranton

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 15:26:20 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: JFaviaaol.com, QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: RE: Advice on Fabrics

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Sue Rogers of Mountain Lakes, NJ who does the gorgeous stuffed work uses

upholstry cottons in lots of her pieces. I don't know what happens to the

glaze when the piece is washed--it probably loses its shine. See if you

can find pictures of Sue's work.

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 1/23/97

Time: 3:26:20 PM

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:28:16 -0500 (EST)

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL:Rising Sun fabrics

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Hiranya:

You might try Patchworks in Montana, USA for the Rising Sun fabrics:

http://www.alpinet.net/~ptchwrks/

Margo (who is on QHL, but haven't seen her post) did carry the RS fabrics,

don't know if she still has them available or not. There is a place on her

web site, where you can send her e-mail messages, too. Good Luck!! Karan

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:59:26 -0500

From: Bobbi Penniman <bobbaloovoicenet.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Dimity definition

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My Dan River textile dictionary, to which I often refer, defines Dimity:

"A thin, sheer cotton cloth in which stripes or cords may or may not be in

the pattern. Usually made of combed yarns, its quality depends on the

yarns used and the pick count in weaving. Used for dress and sportswear,

aprons, pinafores, art needlework, bedspreads and many types of dress goods."

I had always thought of it as a pretty, delicate fabric.

BobbaLoo in PA

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:38:16 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Museum/books

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there is a TARGET quilt in LONE STARS, A lEGACY OF tEXAS qUILTS, 1836-1936,

also known as a 'quill' quilt..these quilts were not known as a quilt, per

say, because there is no quilting holding three layers together but more as a

novelty quilt, according ot the story. It reminds me of a rag rug..Jane

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:47:50 -0500 (EST)

From: shelleywinthrop.slic.com (Shelley Fracalossi) (by way of "Kris

Driessen, Hickory Hill Antique Quilts" <oldquiltalbany.net>)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Old quilts

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Hello everyone,

I haven't posted at all since my bio, but am catching up on the digest and

wish to comment on several items.

First of all, I am going to France in April for two weeks with two side

trips, one to Northern Italy (Trento) and one to Dusseldorf Germany. We

will be staying in Paris 3 1/2 days and would welcome info on quilt shops

etc in Paris. We will also visit LaRochelle, Toulouse, Narbonne, Marseille

and Nice.

On the subject of quilting stitches, on another list I am on, there was a

discussion on how to count the number of stitches per inch. It was put

forth that one should could BOTH the top and the bottom stitches, but I

feel that this is incorrect. In looking at antique quilts I have always

counted only the stitches that show on the top. I believe this is correct

since the stitch that shows on the top is essentially the SAME stitch as

shows on the bottom. What do you quilt historians out there think about

this?

Regarding crazy quilts, most of the ones I have seen have no batting but

were foundation pieced to muslin or some other fabric. I recently picked

up a later crazy quilt which was unusual in that it was both foundation

pieced to muslin and line with a cotton batt. It has a red sateen backing.

There is some damage to some of the silks and since it is foundation

pieced, I am thinking of tracing the shapes of the pieces that are missing

and using that as a template to create an applique piece to cover the

damage. I will be using old tie material since that is primarily what the

quilt is constructed off. If any one can think of a better way to do this,

please let me know.

A friend of mine purchased a box full of quilt tops at an auction in Canada

and sold them to me. There are 5 log cabins, one daddy long legs and one

spool pattern top. They look to be from the 40"s and 50's The log cabins

are all out of white muslin for the light, and decorator style fabrics for

the darks. Some of these fabrics are quite lucious, with gold overlay and

such. Some look like African fabrics. The piecing is not the greatest.

(What might be called improvisational or "crooked" quilts) I washed them

all and started to iron them but found they were laid out so poorly that

the best thing to do with them would be to undo all the blocks and square

them all up and then restitch the rows together. It is interesting that

each log cabin is in a different layout and that there were old papers

pinned to the end of each row with the row number written in pencil. I

sometimes wish these things could talk and tell us where they have been. I

almost think these were done in a school or by a class of some kind. I am

trying to add some more photos to my web page soon as these tops are for

sale and sooner or later will get the photos loaded.

I also picked up a box which included 29 embroidered state flower blocks.

The original pattern layout sheet is there showing that there should have

been 48 blocks to start with, although the actual patterns for the missing

blocks are not there. It would be nice to assemble a complete set. If any

one has any strays of this type, please email me privately and I can tell

you what I am missing.

So far this list has been informative and I look forward to seeing your

input in the future

Shelley in Sunny, 10 degree F, Plattsburgh NY

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:22:48 +0000

From: Susan Nixon <Desertskyworldnet.att.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Passing it along

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Laura R. Morris wrote on 1/23/97:

> Third, and this is perhaps more incendiary - yes an owner can do

> whatever they want with a piece. But perhaps it would be nice if

> rather than using it up just because we can, that we consider using it

> less so that we can pass it along.

Archaeologists are beginning to think this way. Here in Phoenix we have an

ancient ruin near the airport, Pueblo Grande. Part of it has been dug out.

It is from the people who first used canals in the city, and some of their

old canals are still visible, as well as the foundations and lower walls of

this particular site.

The site is being preserved as it is. No further digging and restoration is

being done. The new line of thought is that old methods are very intrusive

and destroy as much as they preserve. Already archaeology is being done

with instruments which can look though the dirt and rock to what is lying

below, and this is the wave of the future.

For those of us who like to walk and touch, it is disheartening, but it does

mean that more is preserved to pass on to future generations. Perhaps we

can do a little of both - some preserving for the future and some enjoyment

for ourselves.

A slight addendum to Alan's comment. There is a lovely shade of dark tan

cotton which grows here, and a lighter, almost yellow/cream color. They are

at the state fair every year. I understand there is a widow who has

experimented with hybrids and natural cotton colors to produce a light blue

and a lavender, but these two I haven't seen.

Susan Nixon

Phoenix, AZ, USA

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:50:27 -0500 (EST)

a listing of fabric desscription, like you posted on dimity, might be of

interest for us..I'm sure there are lots of young people who aren' familar

with different ones. I've seen eyebrows go up on 'seersucker' and 'waffle

pique'..Jane

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:37:13 EST

From: marlenebjuno.com (marlene a bush)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: DAR Museum

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I've been lurking for a couple of months now and learning much from all

the conversations. I'm a counselor at a residential high school for

academically talented high school juniors and seniors and am on call 24

hours so my leisure time is limited, to say the least. The recent

information on the special tour/workshop at the DAR Museum in Washington

really caught my eye. However, thinking I wouldn't get back to D.C. in

the next several years, if ever, I deleted it. Now my husband has

invited me to accompany him on a business trip to guess where - wouldn't

you know it! If anyone kept that information about the content of the

tour, the telephone number, etc. and would kind enough to share it I'd be

really grateful. Marlene Bush in Hot Springs, Arkansas where these warm

temperatures in January are fooling the spring flowers.

marlenebjuno.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:20:19 -0500 (EST)

From: PElkovitchaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #21

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<< Has anyone had any luck locating the "Rising Sun" collection.? I managed

to get some from Vintage & Vogue,but there are still gaps in my

collection. Even if I get samples of the full collection I will be happy,

just as examples of it.Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks Hiranya

>>

If you have tried Margo at Patchworks (she is wonderful!) but no luck,

there was a company in Oakton, VA that offered packets of the entire

Smithsonian line in 6" x 6" samples. Since this was from a fabric line

produced in 1994, so I'm not sure if they would have any left (39 pieces and

the cost was $10) The number for Merryvale, Ltd is 1-703-264-8959. There

were also patches that go with the fabric to put with your quilt label and

they were different for each of the Smithsonian lines (Groom and Little

Sister fabric) I do have fabric from this collection. . . . . let me know

if I can be of help to you.

Patty in Skaneateles, NY

pelkovitchaol.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:08:34 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: marlene a bush <marlenebjuno.com>, QHLcue.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:36:44 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

Merikay Waldvogel here. . .I am just back from the opening festivities in

Lexington, MA for the exhibit "The Art and Artistry of Applique: Quilts from

the James Collection." The collectors Robert and Ardis James were there

along with a lot of quilt enthusiasts from New England. I especially enjoyed

meeting Kris face to face. Her husband helped hold quilts during the Quilt

Dating session. I love doing quilt days in New England because of the very

early fabrics you often see in the quilts there.

Kris commented on the Museum of Our National Heritage's permanent area for

quilt displays. That particular gallery is not always filled with quilts,

but two years ago their staff developed a set of temporary display cases for

quilts. The system worked so well--and they had such great response to

antique quilt exhibits, the museum decided to mount other quilt exhibits.

When they have had the exhibits, they had a series of two exhibits that

lasted a total of six months. This exhibit series started with Star Quilts

and now Red and Green Applique Quilts--a total of sixty quilts from the James

collection.

I think the most important James quilt on display there is a Baltimore Album

Quilt that appeared in Dr. Wm Rush Dunton's book Old Quilts (pg 207) and in

Ellie Sienkiewicz's book Baltimore Beauties and Beyond (pg 35). They have it

displayed on a four-poster bed in a corner display area behind glass and

under controlled light conditions. The broderie perse and applique examples

are exceptional.

Museum of Our National Heritage, 617-861-6559, located at 2A and Mass Ave in

Lexington, MA just off I-95 (Hwy 128) outside of Boston. Admission is free.

Hours are Mon-Sat 10-5 and Sun Noon to 5. If you go, please thank the

staff, write your comments in the comment book, and encourage them to have

more quilt exhibits.

Kris, the book Just New From the Mills: Printed Cottons in America by Diane

Fagan Affleck (1987) is a hard-to-find book. I've asked the Museum of

American Textile History to republish it, but they say it's not possible at

this time.

Re: the large heavy quilt with prairie points facing the center--Laura and

Jane have already commented on it. The one we saw Sunday in Lexington, MA

was not a $6000 version--I'm assuming the one that sold for such a high price

in Florida was a late 1800s version in brown calicos. The one we saw Sunday

was in 1950s fabrics. Jane mentioned an example in the Lone Stars of Texas

book (pg 126-27) where it is labelled The Target. The Safford & Bishop book

America's Quilts and Coverlets has one made of smaller blocks of the same

pattern on pg 156-57). I've seen other examples in the South--people have

called them Target, Cockleburr, and Pine Burr. I own a chair seat cover made

in the same pattern in pastel colors of 1920s-30s. I've been trying to find

a printed source, but haven't found one yet. I keep a file of photos of

these quilts. My notes say there was an article pertaining to these quilts

in the Feb 1933 issue of Antiques Magazine, but I don't have a photocopy of

the article.

Re: Quilt Treasures of Great Britain mentioned by Hiranya of Australia. The

American publishing rights to that British book were bought by Rutledge Hill

Press. It costs $30. Call 800-234-4234 or maybe Kris can get copies to

sell. It is an exceptional buy--170 color photos and excellent information.

--Merikay Waldvogel

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:43:14 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <judygrowblast.net>

The safest way to store quilts, in my opinion, is flat, like on a bed,

with a light barrier on top of the top most quilt. I store my biggest

quilts that way in the guest bedroom, and only remove them when company

comes.

Second best, and the way I do with my smaller quilts is: folded as large

as possible, with acid free tissue paper stuffed in the folds, and then

placed in a (washed) muslin bag made specifically for that particular

quilt. I store these in a bureau whose drawer insides have been sealed

with shellac. The bags I make have velcro closures, and I write all sorts

of information about the quilt on the outside of the bag with a Pigma pen

(permanent).

Hope this helps

Judy in NJ

judygrowblast.net

> From: Suepurrrraol.com

> Subject: Quilts touching wood...

> Hi Judy - I read with interest your note on QHL about

> wood and quilts. My mother has quite a few old quilts

> so I showed yur note to her. She wanted me to ask

> you what you recommend for storing quilts. What is

> the safest way.

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:54:54 -0500 (EST)

From: DReyno3650aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Dimity definition

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I think that an on-going chat about certain fabrics of the past could be very

illuminating. For my Friends of the Library job, I'm in a group that indexes

old local newspapers (from 1850 in this locality of Santa Cruz, CA). In

1890, we were all puzzled by what the ladies were wearing: "She was married

in a dark brown Henrietta....wore black Henietta to the ball...etc, while the

men wore "nobby suits", I could picture the suits being in a slubbed wool,

and the Henrietta's being a style of reddingote. Was I ever wrong! Later

reading proved the suits of the men to be stylish and when we looked in the

library's big dictionary, the Henrietta was a type of slubbed silk similar to

shantung. This was so common, it would undoubtedly be put in the crazy

quilts of the eighteen nineties. When did Bemberg appear and was it always

rayon? And what exactly is the "pongee" my Sunday School dresses were made

from. These were strong fabrics and could be and probably were silk, but

were they too thin/fragile to appear in quilts? When did the word "shantung"

appear? I remember rayon shantung from the thirties, which my mother put in

quilts. (Rayon rots.) It was a heavy, slubbed fabric suitable for spring

coats and light suits came in colors light and dark. Could Henrietta cloth

also come in colors both light and dark? As you might guess, I'm preparing

to tackle my newly acquired 1890 crazy quilt, but more on that later.

Willa Dean Reynolds, Soquel CA.

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:09:51 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Dimity definition

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EXCELLENT subject, Willa. You have already mentioned fabrics I am unfamilar

with. In most cases if you don't have a sewing background, you're lost..I'm

looking forward to this..and will start it off with "WHAT was a henietta??

Or am I getting the cart before the horse? Jane

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:16:29 -0800

From: harlemanmicron.net

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: glossary of textiles

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Fellow QHL'ers, In the course of two semesters of Textile History I

compiled a fairly good list of terminology. At the moment, my papers

have been loaned out and I only have my original notes. However, when I

get them back I'd be willing to post the glossary and the books they

came from. In _Encyclopedia of Textiles_. American Fabrics and Fashions

Magazine, editors, 3rd. edition, Englewood Cliffs, N.J. : Prentice-Hall,

c1980, (check university libes), dimity is described as "sheer fabric

with lengthwise cords or checks formed by bunching two, three, or more

warp and filling threads together, usually of combed cotton." In an

example of an older dimity, it probably *was* cotton, it is what was

available then. Just last summer I made a dimity shirt (of course they

don't call it that anymore) from 100% polyester. The checks are

windowpane type, something like a tic-tac-toe diagram. Any postings on

description of old name textiles would be a welcome addition to my own

files. What is the general feeling on this? Sharon in lovely sunny

Boise (for now!)

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:27:05

From: "MARY PERSYN" <MPERSYNwesemann.valpo.edu>

Somewhat off topic. My apologies.

If you're not a member of the Indiana State Quilt Guild, you might

want to hit delete or cursor down now <g>.

ISQG Members - We are finishing up the new membership directory and

as a last minute thing have decided to include e-mail addresses for

any members who would like to have them published in the directory.

If you have an e-mail address and would like to have it in the

membership directory, please send a message to DLYNBIDAOL.COM. This

is the e-mail address for Diana Biddle, the Vice-President for

Membership who is putting together the directory.

If you know other ISQG members who have e-mail addresses but aren't

on Quiltnet or QHL, please pass this message on to them.

I am posting this message to Quiltnet and Quilt Heritage List only.

If you are on another list, please forward this message.

Thanks.

Mary Persyn

ISQG President

Mary G. Persyn mpersynwesemann.valpo.edu

Law Librarian (219) 465-7838

School of Law Library FAX: (219) 465-7917

Valparaiso University

Valparaiso, IN 46383

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:05:54 -0800

From: harlemanmicron.net

To: QHLcuenet.com

CC: EKTuppergarden.net

Subject: QHL: Quilt History Book List: Startup note.

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Here we go again, after a week of being off-line (which happened in the

middle of a list of 22 books), everything seems to be working fine, so

far. Also, I have an uninterrupted block of time this afternoon: how

unusual! I'll repeat some information here that I started with before.

"In the interest of saving your downloading time, I have divided them

into 13 categories. Smaller groups may get ganged together, but the

largest and, IMHO more significant, will go out as one unit. The

categories will be on the subject line so that you can choose which

lists to copy/save. I will not be recommending nor dis-recommending

individual books since everyone has different interests, tastes, and

specialties. Information will be standardized (Turabian) on all lists

except the state books, which will be alphabetized by state." I welcome

queries and additions. First category, Pattern and Textile

Identification, coming right up. Appreciate your interest, Sharon.

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:37:15 -0500 (EST)

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>

In reference to Merikays post - she is being so modest! No mention of the

fact that she wrote the book _Soft Covers for Hard Times_ and autographed

Jane's copy which I just happened to have with me from the lending

library:-)) Speaking of which, Mimi Dietrich made a donation to the library

of her two books; _Quilts, An American Legacy_ and _Quilts from the

Smithsonian_. These are both excellent books, IMHO, but I will do a formal

review later.

I did call the Museum of American Textile History about _Just New from the

Mills_, and they referred me to someone who was on vacation, so no news on

that front. The good news is that the woman I talked to seemed to think

they might reprint the book, because there has been so much interest in it.

(Probably me, calling every other day <G>)

>Re: Quilt Treasures of Great Britain mentioned by Hiranya of Australia. The

>American publishing rights to that British book were bought by Rutledge Hill

>Press. It costs $30. Call 800-234-4234 or maybe Kris can get copies to

>sell. It is an exceptional buy--170 color photos and excellent information.

I'll call. I did get a call back from AQSG today on their prices - they are

willing to sell Uncoverings as part of a bulk buy for $12 each, and their

little technical guides for $2 each. I didn't realize Uncoverings went back

to 1980! I'll post all this to the web page, so we can get back to

discussing quilts. The web page has Hickory Hill's prices - y'all are

getting wholesale, so take the prices from my posts, not from the prices on

the page. I also thought it might be an idea to list used books for sale,

so if anyone has any they would like to list, feel free to let me know.

Any other requests? I'm on a roll here.

Kris

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:24:15 -0800

From: harlemanmicron.net

To: QHLcuenet.com

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Subject: QHL: Q H bk lst, #2: General American Quilt History

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Start/list: 7 items

Kirakofe, Roderick. _The American Quilt: A History of Cloth and Comfort:

1750-1950_ New York: Clarkston N. Potter, Inc., 1993. ISBN

0-517-57535-3.

Martin, Nancy J. _Pieces of the Past_ Bothell, Washington: That

Patchwork Place, Inc., 1986. ISBN 0-943574-38-2.

Martin, Nancy J. _Threads of Time_ Bothell, Washington: That Patchwork

Place, Inc., 1990. ISBN 0-943574-66-8.

Orlofsky, Patsy and Myron. _Quilts in America_ New York: McGraw-Hill,

1974. Reprinted, New York/London/Paris: Abbeville Press, Inc., 1992.

ISBN 1-55859-334-9.

Safford, Carleton and Robert Bishop. _America's Quilts and Coverlets_

New York: Bonanza Books/E. P. Dutton, Inc., 1980. ISBN 0-517-143917.

Sullivan, Kathlyn F. _Gatherings: America's Quilt Heritage_ Paducah,

Kentucky: American Quilter's Society, 1995. ISBN 0-89145-860-3.

Wilens, Patricia, ed. _America's Heritage Quilts_ Des Moines, Iowa:

Meredith Corporation, 1991. ISBN 0-696-01905-1.

End/list 7 items

Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:40:38 -0800

From: Sharon Harleman Tandy <harlemanmicron.net>

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Brackman, Barbara. _Clues in the Calico: A Guide to Identifying and

Dating Antique Quilts_ McLean, virginia: EPM Publications, Inc., 1989.

ISBN 0-939009-27-7

Brackman, Barbara. _Encyclopedia of Applique: An Illustrated, Numerical

Index to Traditional and Modern Patterns_ McLean, Virginia: EPM

Publications, Inc., 1993.

ISBN 0-939009-75-7

Brackman, Barbara. _Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns_ Paducah,

Kentucky: American Quilter's society, 1993. ISBN 0-89145-815-8

Note: those first three get so much use I've had my local (large chain)

copy store strip the covers, slice off the spine, and drill the pages

for looseleaf binders. They'll last much longer.

Khin, Yvonne M. _The Collector's Dictionary of Quilt Names and Patterns_

New York: Portland House/dilithium Press, Ltd./Crown Publishers, Inc.,

1988. ISBN 0-517-66914-5

(no author/editor) _Photographs of Fabrics in 19th & 20th Century

Quilts: 26 Accurate color Plates Identified by quarter century_ Paducah,

Kentucky: American Quilter's society, n.d. ISBN (none given)

end/list: 5 items

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:13:04 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

Thanks Merikay for supplying the info. re U.S. Publishers for Quilt

Treasures. I was wondering what on earth to do if our List pals wanted

loads. Yes, it is a superb book. There are such wonderful books to

read---I do wish we did'nt need to sleep! Merikay, I wish I could be

there for your Quilt Dating Sessions. I am sure you could do with a

holiday in Australia. By the way,

Dear All if you all ever come to Oz please give me a call (02) 9630-5839

and I will try my hardest to make your stay very special.You could even

stay with me --check dates etc in advance.If you can handle a Labrapoodle

who thinks he is human and children(9 & 21 months),you are more than

welcome.

Thanks also everyone who helped me locate Rising Sun. I have to wait for

replies etc. re availability.

Hiranya from Sydney Australia

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:04:17 -0800 (PST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

Hi all, I asked this question last week and nobody responded so here goes

again. Any info would be helpful. Can anyone give me information on yo yo

quilts? What time frame were they made in and what was the height of their

popularity. How were yo yo quilts used? I wonder about that because they

are so fragile and have such a decorative nature--but they catch on things

and obviously it wouldn't work for for warmth. Were they designed for use

in any special way? Who "invented" the design? anonymous maybe? Any and

all info would be greatly appreciated. Michele in MoorparkCA

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:18:18 -0800

From: The Waites <awquiltrsedona.net>

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I have ordered several out of print books from Peddler's Wagon, P. O. Box

109, Lamar, MO 64759-0109, telephone: (417) 682-3734. They have been in

business 11 years and are very helpful if you are looking for a specific

quilting book. They also stock children's books and some sewing notions.

I enjoy getting their lists and usually find something wonderful to buy.

Quilting is sharing and it is ever so evident on this digest. Thanks

all.

Audrey Waite, Sedona, AZ

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:46:02 -0500

From: mgoodmanalbany.net (Mary Beth Goodman)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: I'm still here, just busy

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I've been reading when I can, but I've been busy getting show stuff

together and out and my own quilt for the show back in progress.....

This past week one of my guild members brought a lovely quilt to show and

tell. She's going to put it in our show, which made me VERY happy!

Made by her mother around 1940, supposed to be her first quilt..... it's a

snowflake type applique design. White snowflakes, all different, on a

light-medium grey background. The daughter said it was very similar to a

pattern offered more recently by Better Homes and Gardens. She believed her

mother had bought a pattern for this quilt, but she no longer remembered

where or other details.

When we looked closely at it, there were blue markings along the edges of

the applique. This made us wonder if the pattern had been sold as iron on

transfers?

Anyone have knowledge of this sort of pattern?

On a note of possible interest to readers. Camille D. Cognac will be

teaching and lecturing at our show in June. Registration opens Feb. 1st.

All info is available at our web site.

Mary Beth Goodman, Coordinator

NYQuilts!

Quilts, Fairfield Fashion Show, vendors, lectures, classes!

June 7 & 8, 1997

Russell Sage College, Troy NY

http://www.albany.net/~mgoodman/NYQuilts.htm

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 16:40:29 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

Hi Michele,

Yo-yos were popular in the twenties and thirties. Technically

they aren't quilts since they are only one layer (tho sometimes there's a

backing). I have a yo-yo made of a variety of depression era fabrics with

a very gauzy Nile-green backing--pretty; it's about 50 inces square and I

don't think it was ever intended to serve a practical purpose. A basting

stitch is run around the edge of a fabric circle and pulled tight. The

fabric doubles up, one side smooth and the other gathered with a little

hole in the middle. The indiviual yo-yos are whipped stitched together.

They're not very practical. I don't think there's anyway to know where,

when or by whom the technique was first used. A friend of mine made a yo-

yo garland for her Christmas tree. In the Untouchables Kevin Kostner's

little girl had a yo-yo quilt on her bed.

Cinda in Scranton

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 1/25/97

Time: 4:40:29 PM

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:22:40 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: qhlcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Henrietta fabric

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I checked my copy of Fairchild's Dictionary of Textiles for a definition of

Henrietta. It says: Henrietta--a fine, soft and lustrous dress fabric made

with a silk warp and fine worsted filling in a two up, one down, filling-face

twill weave. Generally the effect was of a twilled face and relatively

smooth back. Made in imitation of cashmere fabric. Produced as early as the

middle of the 17th century, and formerly a popular fabric. Named in honor of

Henrietta Maria of England, Queen of Charles I." --Merikay Waldvogel

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 17:03:59 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: fabric with canon and flags

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I've been working with the quilts in the collection of The State

Museum of Pennsylvania in Harrisburg. One of the quilts, a flying geese

in a strippy set made of red, green and yellow-gold calicoes, is backed

with a fabric printed with red canon and American flags on a black staff.

I think that this is a Centennial-type fabric. The family information

that came with the quilt says that it was made during the Civil War. Is

anyone aware of such a fabric being available as early as 1861-1865? TIA

Cinda in Scranton

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:48:19 -0500 (EST)

From: AJSNGSaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

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I would like to know more about the history of fabrics also. Not having much

of a sewing background I don't know too much about fabrics. I find this

thread really interesting.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:51:14 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Yo Yos

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You should see them done in red or green on a white table cloth for

Christmas..and I have a 'collar' from a pattern I found in TX in regualr

cotton but knew full well it would adapt to FEEDSACKS..and you can be it did.

i contacted the lady who designed the pattern, carry the collar and pattern

with me to my lectures and sell out everythime..YO YO's are HOT!!..ALSO, all

in white over ANY color..Jane

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:06:38 -0800 (PST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Yo Yos

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Hi all, I asked this question last week and nobody responded so here goes

again. Any info would be helpful. Can anyone give me information on yo yo

quilts? What time frame were they made in and what was the height of their

popularity. How were yo yo quilts used? I wonder about that because they

are so fragile and have such a decorative nature--but they catch on things

and obviously it wouldn't work for for warmth. Were they designed for use

in any special way? Who "invented" the design? anonymous maybe? Any and

all info would be greatly appreciated. Michele in MoorparkCA

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 01:34:13 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: RE: Historic Colour Names

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Okay Guys, Is anyone going to tell me Who Eli Walker of the Eli Walker

Green is?? I know he cannot be a Martian! Also was the person who

discovered the Madder plant madder than the rest or was that his

Surname?. Also Dimity-I know what it is but where did the name come from?

These names seem to have all originated in the U.S.A. so hopefully there

must be some documentation somewhere? Here in Oz ,our colours seem to be

the same as that of the U.K.

So, please share your knowledge with an ignoramus ( but not for long(!)

) from Down Under!

O>K Who stole our sunshine? Its raining like mad now

Bye for now

Hiranya from Sydney Australia

Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:53:05 -0500 (EST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

Hi All, reading over Willa's post on 1890 dark brown Henrietta clothing

Willa states, "when we looked in the library's big dictionary, the Henrietta

was a type of slubbed silk similar to shantung." I checked w/The Story of

Silk by Feltwell and shantung was very similar to Tusseh silk. The Tusseh silkmoth

is a large  Indian moth with a wingspan of 5.9 in. "Some authorities include 2 other

closely-related

silkmoth species as producers of Tusseh silk. These are the Chinese oak

silk moth and the Japanese oak silkmoth....The Chinese silkmoth occurs

throughout the province of Shantung where "Shantunk silk" is produced. and

Tusseh silk may be obtained from a hybrid between the Chinese oak silkmoth

and the Himalayan oak silkmoth. The cocoons produced from these silkmoths

are at least twice as large and are greyish brown in color. The silk is

difficult to reel without prolonged boiling in potash. This variet of silk

is called Tusseh (spelled at least 10 different ways btw)....Tusseh silk is

durable, coarse, dark colored and worn by the Brahmins and other Hindu sects."

...Goes on to say how these moths cannot be domesticated and people have

to find them in the jungle, watch over and guard them from crows and bats.

Also says in 1877 Tusseh silk from all the Indian villages produced a

considerable amount of silk for export..London using 238 bales and 3 times

that much to Paris in 1879 for theParis Exhibition. The time frame is

exactly right and I sure much of the silk found its way here and I would

safely guess this was the dark

Henrietta.

Last comment.... silk with the nubbles in it, is because of it being

either this Shantung (Tusseh) and a mix of different types of silk moths

and the larger nubs not being able to be broken down further, or as for

domesticated silk moths, the nubs are a combination of raw silk and spun

silk. But the dark Tusseh silk must be something special indeed.

Willa asks, "And what exactly is the "pongee" my Sunday School dresses were made

>from. These were strong fabrics and could be and probably were silk, but

>were they too thin/fragile to appear in quilts? When did the word "shantung"

>appear?:"

I'll research pongee another day. Michele from Moorpark,CA

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 11:43:03 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Dimity

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Textiles in America: 1650-1870 by Florence M. Mongomery, W.W. Norton,

N.Y., 1984 (A Winterthur Book) ISBN 0 393 01703 6, pp. 218-222 defines

dimity, gives historical background and has several pictures in black and

white which are worth a thousand words.

Cinda in Scranton

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Date: 1/26/97

Time: 11:43:04 AM

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:25:44 -0800 (PST)

From: Diane Lockwood <dclinnercite.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Intro

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Hello,

My name is Diane Lockwood and I live in the Sierra Nevada mountains in

northern California. I've been lurking for several weeks now. The antique

quilt discussions have been *very* interesting.

I fell into collecting antique quilts quite by accident. Dsh and I lived in

a small town in northwest Georgia for two years. I passed by a local junk

store and saw an old wool crazy quilt in the window. After two weeks of

passing by, I went in to ask the store owner to take it out of the window

as the sun was shining directly on it. Well, it was love at first sight! I

had to have that old thing.

The store owner gave me an abrieviated history of the quilt which I

shrugged off as just a story to sell the quilt. After examining it at home

for several weeks, dsh and I started the long, but very exciting, process

of authenticating it. Turns out it has both Federal and Confederate uniform

pieces in it, as well as many pieces from a man's wardrobe dated in the

late 1800s. The backing is very rough woven fertilizer bags dated in the

late 1800s. The stitching in the quilt is very crude though there are

efforts of the maker to be decorative. There is no batting.

As we went through the process of authenticating the old quilt, we kept a

journal of every encounter we had. It is our intention to return the quilt

to the South and donate it to the Atlanta History Museum along with all the

documentation. We have hopes, but no firm date, to do so this spring. The

old quilt really belongs in the South and sometimes I feel as though I have

quiltnapped it!

I have six pages of notes which I will be happy to copy to anyone who may

be interested in reading about this old quilt and our authentication

adventures.

The second accident in collecting antique quilts was discovering 8 quilts

in my DMILs attic while we were living in Georgia. But that's another

story......

Diane

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:11:38 -0500 (EST)

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>

Diane,

I would be *very* interested in hearing how you documented your quilt! I

just bought a signature quilt that is in rough condition, but each block is

signed by a different (family?) The signatures are embroidered in red on

muslin, and put together with red. One block has the date 12/25/22, several

are signed by Reverends - this leads to obvious conclusions, so I was going

to write to the churches in the area where it was found and see if I could

find any informations. I suppose I could look up the unusual names in the

phone book, but somehow that seems too easy. <G>

I would be interested in anything others have done to research their quilts,

too.

Kris

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 20:06:53 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Ely & Walker

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Ely & Walker printed cottons starting in 1878. They kept many of the same

prints (sold under the name Quadriga Cloth) in production for years and

years. They went out of business in the early 1990's. I found some of their

fabric in a hardware store in the Pocono's a couple of years ago and I

bought it all. The prints are identical to those found in quilts from the

1880's. I kept the cardboard core from one bolt; it is printed with an

address in Memphis TN, but I don't know if that was their original location.

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 1/26/97

Time: 8:06:53 PM

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 20:30:57 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>, QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Intro

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Kris,

Could you please post instructions for the List, sign up etc?. I"ve

lost my copy and I want to tell a friend about the List. Thanks.

Re. signature quilts: I bought a beautifully appliqed and embroidered quilt

with 250 signatures. Each of 25 blocks contains 10 signatures embroidered

in purple, an appliqued keystone and an embroidered bunch of goldenrod. The

borders are a beautiful butter yellow. Obviously (the keystone) it's a

Pennsylvania quilt. Since the mountain laurel became our state flower in

1934 I assume it was made before that date, otherwise the maker would have

chosen the state flower rather than the goldenrod.

Pennsylvania is a big state and I wasn't sure how to try to pinpoint

the area where it was made until I talked to a professional geneaologist.

She told me to consult the Soundex. In the PA State Library in Harrisburg

there is a file which allows you to search for names by reducing the letters

to a number code which then turns up clusters of people with the same name

as listed in the 1920 census. Census information is not made public for 70

years so 1920 is the most recent available and may, in fact, be the only

census for which there is a Soundex. This is not as complicated as it sounds

and it's really interesting. Several names appear quite a few times on my

quilt (family groups) so I looked for those. In a very short time I found a

number of the people who's names are on my quilt. They lived in Indiana

County in western PA between Altoona and Pittsburgh. I still have a lot more

work to do, this quilt-detective stuff is such fun.

Cinda in Scranton

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:28:21 -0500

From: Baglady111aol.com

Welcome, Diane,,I would love to read your story on the southern quilt. Altho

I am born and reared in Pittsburgh, I moved to Virginia 20 yrs ago and am a

legal resident there..I spend alot of time in Pittsburgh but my enjoy my farm

as well..and being a very rural mountain town, the Civil War is a big topic

as is quilting..they have been quilting there since the 1700's when Floyd was

settled..hence the beginning of me collecting feedsacks..Yes, I would like to

read your story..Jane <baglady111aol.com>

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 05:09:43 +0000

From: Susan Nixon <Desertskyworldnet.att.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Soundex

Message-ID: <19970127050918.AAC20330LOCALNAME>

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>consult the Soundex. In the PA State Library in Harrisburg

>there is a file which allows you to search for names by reducing the letters

>to a number code which then turns up clusters of people with the same name

>as listed in the 1920 census. Census information is not made public for 70

>years so 1920 is the most recent available and may, in fact, be the only

>census for which there is a Soundex.

I have used Soundex at the LDS genealogical libraries. It is, I believe,

for every census. I know I used it for the 1900 and 1910. In many places

there are branch LDS libraries, so you might try looking for one in your

neighborhood. They don't mind other people using the facilities. If you

can't find it listed as a library in the phone book, try calling one of the

local churches and asking where the closest one is available to the public.

Susan in Sunny Phoenix, Arizona, USA

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:34:01 -0800 (PST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: yo yo answers

Message-Id: <199701270534.VAA21893acme.sb.west.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks for the answers on yo yos. I think they are so pretty, to me they

look like flowers with a real old fashioned look. michele

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:09:23 -0500 (EST)

From: HKnight453aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: Black Cotton

Message-ID: <970127090922_1859790906emout13.mail.aol.com>

I have seen garments made of a special fibre known as Foxfiber which are

deep russet and medium leaf gren made from undyed cotton. The cotton is

naturally inthese colors, and is grown in Texas. Such strains have been

grown on and off for many years, according to the hang tags. i didn't buy

any, but saw the display at Bread and Circus. That's just an add-on to

Ricki's comment.

Best wishes, Heather

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:54:18 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Yo Yo Quilts

Message-ID: <970127095324_715327728emout18.mail.aol.com>

The history of Yo Yo's goes back a long way. Read: "Yo Yo or Bed of Roses

Quilts: 19th Century Origins" by Virginia Gunn in the book 1987 Uncoverings

published by American Quilt Study Group. Originally, yo yo's were decorative

additions to dresses, tablecloths, curtains, etc. Virginia Gunn's article

includes an engraved illustration of "the best way to form fabric disks" from

December 1885 issue of Peterson's Magazine. They weren't called "yo yo's"

then. In the late 1920s and 30s, the technique was revived. Several

magazine and needlework companies sold patterns and directions for the

spreads. They were also made into pillows, seat covers, etc. I own a small

kit for making yo yo's--inside were a plastic circular disk, lots of pre-cut

fabric circles, and the instructions for making a pillow. I also have a

cutting diagram published by Grandmother Clark's in St. Louis in 1932 for a

"Yo-Yo, Puff or Bed of Roses Quilt."

The derivation of the name "yo yo" is interesting.. Virginia Gunn says "by

the end of the 1930s, the term 'yo yo,' the trademark for a popular

disk-shaped toy manipulated by a cord became the favorite name for this

circular pattern."

I have an undated newspaper article about making a silk "yo-ho" quilt--note

the spelling and the use of silk. The last sentence says "These quilts are

often called Yo-Ho quilts as the circles resemble the Yo-Ho toys so popular

with children." Does anyone know about Yo-Ho toys? --Merikay Waldvogel

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:09:03 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: mgoodmanalbany.net

cc: qhlcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Snowflake Quilt Kit

Message-ID: <970127100902_847305986emout13.mail.aol.com>

You asked about a Snowflake quilt on a grey background recently. I have

information on two such quilts. Paragon published two versions--one in 1937

and another in 1949. The one in 1937 has one snowflake pattern used

throughout. The pattern in 1949 had four variations on the same snowflake

pattern--for example, one snowflake has small hearts radiating from the

center and another has small stars radiating from the center. The four

variant blocks are used throughout the quilt.

The Version II appeared on the inside back cover of McCall Needlework Fall

Winter 1949-50 and in 100 Best Designs from McCall's Needlework & Crafts Vol

2 1976, pg. 139. If you want photocopies of the two versions to authenticate

your quilt, e-mail me with your snail mail address. --Merikay Waldvogel

quiltaliveaol.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:35:42 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To: qhlcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Averil Colby & Amy Emms

Message-ID: <970127103414_1659309727emout11.mail.aol.com>

I know there are some British quilt historians receiving this list. Would

anyone be willing to write a short synopsis of the lives and accomplishments

of Averil Colby and Amy Emms for a book to be published by the Quilter's Hall

of Fame? If so, please e-mail me for guidelines and information. --Merikay

Waldvogel quiltaliveaol.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:57:19 -0500 (EST)

From: RLHlink3aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Intro

Message-ID: <970127105108_1826241758emout14.mail.aol.com>

Hello Diane

What an interesting quilt! Thank you for sharing the story. How neat that you

are considering returning the quilt to it's "home".

BTW, where in the Sierras do you live?

Linda/Redding

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:09:05 -0500 (EST)

From: QRestoreaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Intro

Message-ID: <970127160903_1245609358emout06.mail.aol.com>

Diane;

Just wanted to say what a commendable act your doing by donating your "love

at first sight" quilt to the Atlanta History Museum. It would be difficult

for any of us to do. . .so glad you shared it with us here.

Victoria Montgomery

QRestoreaol.com

Boise, ID

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:43:14 -0500 (EST)

From: AJSNGSaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Wool Crazy quilt

Message-ID: <970127163854_1511805759emout17.mail.aol.com>

Hi,

I for one would love to hear more about the wool crazy quilt that was

purchased in a junk shop in Georgia! I would be very interested in how it

was determined that there was fabric from Union and Confederate uniforms in

it. What a fascinating find!

Please share this with the whole group because this is really a wonderful

piece of quilt history.

Thanks,

Nancy in VA

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 22:46:00 GMT

From: l.evans5genie.com

To: qhlcue.com

Subject: QHL: Averil Colby

Message-Id: <199701280032.AAA16451relay1.geis.com>

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I don't know enough about her to write a biography, but Averil Colby's

contribution to quilt history is inestimable. I'd love to know more

about her.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:27:46 -0500 (EST)

From: RBCochranaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Dimity

Message-ID: <970128082745_1178546124emout11.mail.aol.com>

Cinda's reference to the Florence Montgomery book reminded me how informative

that book is, but--unfortunately--how difficult to find. It is now out of

print, available only in some libraries. Anyone know where a copy might be

found to buy? Kris, what do you suppose the chances are of someone

reprinting this one?

--Rachel

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:35:42 -0800 (PST)

From: Diane Lockwood <dclinnercite.com>

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:27:19 -0600

From: Billie Corgan <Corgan-Stevenspostoffice.worldnet.att.net>

laurarm wrote:

First -- old quilt tops don't *have* to be quilted.

Laura:

I just wanted to tell you that I for one, and I'll bet there are more

like me, was glad to read your recent posting. My mother handed down

some unfinished quilt tops from family members to me as my quilting

progressed. These just added to my UFOs and the associated guilt that I

could never get everything completed. After reading your post, I

relaxed. I could finally just enjoy the quilt tops for what they are.

Completed quilt tops not unfinished quilts.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Billie Corgan

Choctaw OK

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:26:33 -0500 (EST)

From: PAMIAM6aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: New history find

Message-ID: <970128181601_1446527468emout19.mail.aol.com>

>From here in the cold Land of Lincoln the front page of our paper has

announced a new quilt find. As the story goes, Abe, as a young boy worked in

a dry goods store and one day sold the fabric for a quilt to a Clarissa

Hornbuckle. He did not give her enough change back and thus walked the 3

miles to her home to return several cents. Thus the name "Honest Abe. Well

the relatives of Mrs Hornbuckle have found and donated the quilt to the state

of Illinois. The pattern is Orange Peel and the picture in the paper showed

it to be blue and white. It is considered to be too fragile to display and

so the local quilt group is going to make the twin for display. Someone dated

the quilt as 1830. It is so interesting how some things dont change...the

quilt looks as if it could have been made yesterday. I thought some of you

might be interested in this little new piece of quilt history. Pam

Tjelmeland Springfield Illinois.

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:51:01 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: RE:Memory Quilt

Message-ID: <32EF9C15.77EAibm.net>

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Hi All,

Where has everyone gone? I guess we have all realised we cannot sit too

long the computer !!

Remember my Memory quilt I am working on ? Well, I was thinking I would

like to represent my babies that I lost. I have 6 in heaven ( yes, I do

not give up too easy!) and 2 on earth. I know there must be other

mothers elsewhere who have thought & perhaps done this. How were babies

represented ? I will use applique , but as my little ones never made it

to full term I do not know quite how to represent them except as angels.

With the current fad of angelmania I do not want my quilt misrepresented

as a fad of the day in the future!

Any feedback will be appreciated.

It is pouring here, I adore rain but not this much! Will have to build

an Ark if it does not stop shortly!

Hiranya -Sydney Australia

Quilting Treasures of Old

email-nomad1ibm.net

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:06:00 -0500

From: "Sue McClure" <suzyalbany.net>

I've been hearing so much about the Dear Jane quilt that I recently made

the trip to the Bennington Museum (only about an hour from here) to see it

- only to discover that it was on loan to some international quilt show and

even when back home, it isn't often on display. I should have realized how

fragile it must be and therefore not always out where it can be admired

(they say they have to let it "rest" between showings) - maybe someday I'll

get to see it! Fortunately, I'm also a big fan of old sewing machines, and

they had quite a few of them on display, along with the Grandma Moses

paintings I always enjoy visiting. Sue McClure (suzyalbany.net)

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:23:29 -0500

From: Gail Wagner <dpw13mindspring.com>

I recently changed from AOL to a new carrier and had my computer up-graded

so I am thrilled with faster better service. I have just started getting

this digest and LOVE it!! My collection of antique quilts started when my

husband's grandmother died. She was estranged from the family by her own

choice so we did not know she was gone until a few weeks after her death.

Through the lawyer, I contacted the man who inherited her estate and asked,

if there was something that Margie had made that he didn't want, would he

please allow us to buy it. Well, in a few weeks, I received a huge box

(uninsured from UPS) containing, among other things, a white and rust

Burrogyne Surrounded(aka Homespun), a 1930's Grandmother's Flower Garden,

and an early 1900 calico Cakeplate. I was immediately hooked on quilts!!!

Since then, I have acquired about 20 more antiques with my latest great find

being an early 1900 string star quilt which was inside a tied Lone Star quilt.

Sorry, got carried away with the antique quilts. What I set out to say is

what is the name of the Florence Montgomery book that is out of print?

There is going to be a huge used book sale here (Atlanta) next week put on

by Goodwill. I have gotten some real treasures there and will be glad to

look for books for someone else if I have the author and title.

Also, I am very interested in the Southern Crazy Quilt. I was born in

Atlanta and have always lived here - southern through and through. Please

put me one the list to receive more info. Thanks.

Thanks for this wonderful forum. Gail.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:16:01 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: yankee & rebel uniforms

Message-Id: <199701291809.KAA16901orbital.cue.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Was fascinated by Diane's crazy quilt with fabric from yankee & rebel

uniforms. I had heard of this, but was beginning to think it just a rumor,

as I never saw (or knew anyone who saw) an actual quilt like this. But,

then, would I recognize those fabrics???

I was told that fabric from Civil War uniforms were used in early log cabin

quilts, log cabin design having some significance to the south. (Anyone

know why?) This info was given to me by a woman named Jane Ingersoll, the

volunteer textile curator at the Lycoming County Historical Museum (PA).

Jane is in her 70s, & claims this info came to her from her mother (getting

back there in time), who was a seamstress & owned a costume shop in

Williamsport, PA. Jane, BTW, has a textile/costume degree from Penn State &

also ran the costume shop for years. I consider this woman very

knowledgable, & would tend to believe it if she said so.

Would love to hear of any actual, for sure,

this-is-Civil-War-uniform-fabric-in-this-quilt documentation. . .

Ricki - lovin' this list!

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:53:24 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltLineaol.com

Hi all,

I saw this post on Quiltbiz, (Heidi, hope you don't mind). I know we had a

thread going about this awhile ago, but thought that another source for these

products might come in handy.

Debbie

In a message dated 97-01-28 00:33:15 EST, ozzgnmia.com (Ozz Graham) writes:

<< Subject: QBD-acid free tissue paper

One specialty company for archival storage needs (including acid free

tissue and textile storage boxes w/ 20 sheets of acid free tissue included)

is:

The Hollinger Corporation

9401 Northeast Drive

P.O. Box 8360

Fredericksburg, VA 22404

540-898-7791

800-634-0491

They also have textile storage tubes (3" diameter x .125" thick high

density, inert polyethylene, cut to size up to 120") in case you don't want

to fold quilts. Hollinger also sells Tyvek by the roll, which is chemically

inert, resists mold, mildew, and moisture, but it breathes, so it is great

for quilt storage, or lining shelves.

Ann Russell is their conservation consultant and you can reach her on

Wednesday or Thursday at their toll free number. It is my understanding

that she has done consulting for The Smithsonian. She knows her business!

You can also request a free catalog and samples.

Heidi Wurst

End Digest 1.27.97

Ozz Graham

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 14:21:07 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: Gail Wagner <dpw13mindspring.com>, QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: books on textiles

Message-ID: <Chameleon.970129143205.cawley.epix.net>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii

Gail asked about the Montgomery book. Textiles in America 1650-1870 by

Florence M. Montgomery, W.W. Norton and Co. (A Winterthur Book) 1984. ISBN

0-393-01703-6. This book is a dictionary based on original documents,

prints and paintings. I also reccommend Textile Designs by Susan Meller

and Joost Elffers, Harry N. Abrams, Inc. New York. 1991 ISBN

0-8109-3853-7. 200 years of European and American patterns for printed

fabrics organized by motif, style, color, layout and period. 1,823 color

illustrations--this is a super book; expensive and worth every penny.

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 1/29/97

Time: 2:21:08 PM

This message was sent by Chameleon

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 14:41:23 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: quiltartquilt.net, QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: PA State Museum

Message-ID: <Chameleon.970129145640.cawley.epix.net>

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Ricki Maietta sent me a message about my work at The State Museum. I must

have deleted it, sorry Ricki. I have been working with two friends/

colleagues on a documentation of the quilt collection at The State Museum of

PA in Harrisburg for the last two years. Denise Nordberg and Lorraine

Ezbiansky and I have written a book on the collection which will be

published by the State Historical and Musem Commission in May of this year.

The book will have color pictures of 41 quilts and black and white details

of twenty more. The museum is planning "a quilt event" on June 7 to

celebrate the publication. As a result of this project the Friends of the

State Museum have set up a fund dedicated to the conservation and

preservation of the collection. I would really like to put together a list

of quilt guilds in PA so that they could receive information about the

collection and perhaps consider making a donation to the fund. The museum

owns about 200 quilts and related textiles (we documented 193 items, but

some pieces are on loan to other sites and were not available to us).

Another result of our work is that every quilt has been photographed and

these pictures are available for study at the museum (or will be soon) along

with the documentation information. It's a fine collection; almost every

quilt of which the origin is known was made in Pennsylvania. We are hoping

that in the not too distant future the museum will have a major quilt

exhibit. Perhaps you should all write letters urging them to do so.

Cinda in Scranton -------------------------------

Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 1/29/97

Time: 2:41:23 PM

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:12:15 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: PA State Museum

Message-ID: <970129164843_647774754emout03.mail.aol.com>

May?? I would love to have had a copy for THE FEEDSACK CLUB'S

CONVENTION/QUILT SHOW in April..drats..will put your request in our

newsletter for members in Pa that belong to a guild and would like to donate.

Are their forms or do they just send a check?? Jane

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:05:18 -0500

From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>

To: antique quilts line <QHLcue.com>

According to my American Heritage Dictionary, dimity comes from Greek

for "di" (two) + "mitos" (threads), and madder comes from Old English

"maedere" meaning color, in this case red.

When I am not quilting, I teach high school English, investigate word

origins, and do historical research for fun.

Diane

in dry(for now), cooold Massachusetts

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:50:21 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: PA State Museum

Message-ID: <970129164918_1245911715emout09.mail.aol.com>

ooopps! I would also like info to put in our n/l for your June event..Jane

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:08:40 -0500 (EST)

From: DReyno3650aol.com

This quilt may have more of a history than you might think. My other love is

genealogy, and while I was poring over the history of my ancestors in Bibb

County, Alabama (in the History of Bibb County) I ran across a section that

had me spellbound. Each community had to furnish so many recruits

(volunteers at first, a draft later) to the "cause", in this case,

Confederate Army. They also had to furnish the men with the required uniform

and other gear (gun, blanket, etc.) The fascination started when I realized

that First, They Had to Catch the Sheep. Then, the shearing, carding,

spinning, and weaving started. Since they had no dye in Bibb County other

than black, the gray cloth was achieved by the weavers being inventive using

black thread and white intermittantly to make it look gray. As the fabric

was woven, the ladies gathered at the churches to cut and sew, and all the

sewing was done by hand. The ladies worked non stop, night and day, until

they had made each recruit a uniform and furnished him with a blanket to keep

him warm. And they continued to do this throughout the war. My

great-grandfather fought for Bibb County and died of measles just before

Shiloh. Maybe Georgia people had dye, but it would be interesting to look

carefully at that cloth, especially the gray. I presume the Union soldiers

had the might of the mill towns of the north to cloth their soldiers. This

is from memory. If anybody wants portions of the original, I'll be glad to

look it up and send it to their mailbox.

Willa.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:00:45 -0800

From: iteachslip.net (Elizabeth Pruyn)

Hi there,

I have been lurking for several weeks and afer a question was raised in my

"Quilting 101" class, I thought it was time to introduce myself.

I have always been interested in quilting and even made a few simple, tied

quilts with my second graders. I also have been doing living history

re-enactment for twenty years as a hobby and have made many costumes for

myself and my family. I started going into quilt shops a few years ago

looking at the reproduction fabric to use for 19th century clothing.

Somehow I started buying fat quaters and 1/2 yards and some books, and

attended a few shows and now I'm hooked.

Being someone who sews, I can appriciate the work that goes into modern,

art quilt, but my love is the traditional designs and fabrics. I really

enjoy the discussions on this list and have learned quite abit about fabric

and quilts.

My question concerns muslin. In the early 19th century muslin was an

imported, fancy fabric used for both day and evening wear. Now though when

we think about it, it is a "cheap" fabric with lots of brown in it. Yet it

is used alot in quilting. Was it used as a quick "extender" fabric or due

to the availablility, etc. Any answers would be appricaiated and I'll

share them with my group.

Yours,

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Pruyn iteachslip.net Oakland, CA

"If I had been around when Rubens was painting, I would have been revered

as a fabulous model. Kate Moss? Well, she would have been the paint

brush..." - Dawn French

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 06:37:35 -0500 (EST)

From: AJSNGSaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: yankee & rebel uniforms

Message-ID: <970130063735_948373873emout05.mail.aol.com>

Willa, I for one would love more information about the rebel and yankee

uniforms. This is very interesting to me as I love Civil War history anyway!

Nancy in Fredericksburg, Virginia

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:02:43 -0500 (EST)

From: RBCochranaol.com

To: QHLcue.com, quiltartquilt.net

Subject: Re: QHL: PA State Museum

Message-ID: <970130090243_472801382emout13.mail.aol.com>

Cinda--

Congratulations! You've done a lot of work we all appreciate in preserving

our quilt heritage. I would be interested in a copy of your book when it

comes out. Any chance I could get an autographed one (or four)?

--Rachel

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:22:48 -0500 (EST)

From: RBCochranaol.com

To: QHLcue.com, dpw13mindspring.com

Subject: Re: QHL: books on textiles

Message-ID: <970130092239_1313039102emout18.mail.aol.com>

Gail, et al.

The Florence Montgomery book I have used is Printed Textiles, English and

American Cottons and Linens 1700-1850. A Winterthur Book. New York: The

Viking Press, 1970. I would, however, be delighted to find a copy of either

book. (And several others--but that's another story.)

It's unfortunate that a lot of the older books on quilt history are out of

print, generally unavailable, or difficult to locate. There is a lot of

information in these books (authors Montgomery, Pettit, Peto come to mind)

that is useful to current researchers, and it's always good to go back to the

original source. It's great when these books can be reprinted (Webster) or

revised and reprinted (Orlofsky). Sometimes books are the only way we can

see those quilts which are rarely exhibited due to either their fragility or

the availability of quilt exhibit venues. (Or limited travel expenses.)

Enough sharing. Thanks for the soapbox.

--Rachel

in NJ

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:47:19 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: RE:QHL:Memory Quilt

Message-ID: <32F25A57.25D2ibm.net>

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Thanks Karan for your idea of a bouquet wih blooms & 6 unopen blooms and

Susan for the baby animal idea , I can definitely use these ideas. I

wanted to check out if there were similar quilts historically as surely

others had the same idea. Well I came across a wonderful book & wanted to

share it with U guys.

The Maria Hanks Quilt dated 1857 (Charleston, Coles County, Illinois) is

found on pg. 88 of " Wrapped In Glory: Figurative Quilts & Bedcovers

1700-1900 by Sandi Fox, Thames & Hudson , Los Angeles County Museum

Of Art.

This breathtaking quilt has appliqued & embroidered birds, berries &

currents ; with lots of blooms , buds, leaves etc all in red, green and

pumpkin orange in places on white. There is a little figure on the lower

right corner of the piece, worked in "exquisite detail. " There's lots

of wonderful details , but basically this quilt is supposed to represent

Maria Hank's daughter as she would perhaps have grown up to be. The

author Sandi Fox believes this quilt to be a unique example of

America's mourning arts . I do not want to make anyone morbid with lots

of details , but am happy to pass on info. of quilt details if any are

interested.

Thanks again to those who made the time to respond.

Hiranya from wet Sydney Australia ( 8 ^ )

P.S. All the quilts in this book are really fabulouse and text very

interesting. I bought this last year a quilt show for AUD $29 , so am

not sure of US prices. Perhaps someone else can advise here. Sandi Fox is

associate curator and heads the American Quilt Research Centre at LA

County Museum of Art.

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:59:47 -0800

From: deb roby <robydamodex.com>

I have been reading this list almost since it's inception. Haven't given

a bio, because I can't really add a whole lot to the list. I read it to

learn more...

I have an idea that I would like to develop. I own an industrial

quilting machine, and often advise people on quilting patterns to use on

their quilts. I would like to develop a talk about the history of

quilting patterns that I could offer to a number of the regional quilds.

I miss teaching (taught HS English for 10 years), and this might come

close to a substitute. It would be a way to help people think more about

the quilting patterns that they use, and (I admit it) may be a useful

marketing tool for my business.

I am having trouble finding a lot of documentation about the history of

quilting patterns (dont' really know where to look).

Can anyone supply some bibliographical information that might help me?

Also, I saw that AQS has just published an Encyclopedia of quilting

patterns. Has anyone seen this book? Would it be worthwhile for me to

order?

Any help is appreciated. TIA

Deb Roby

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:56:35 -0800 (PST)

From: Michele Weise <michelepeppertreestudios.com>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: quilting patterns

Message-Id: <199701311456.GAA08291acme.sb.west.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

To Deb Roby's bio on the history of quilting patterns --you have a really

great idea there. The very first quilt I ever made...oh no that was 1982

and it's still not finished....was, is. a turkey red and white bears paw.

Somewhere but I don't know where, I got the information to make old quilt

designs that were traditional. Alternating blank squares are of a spider's

web and an eagle with outstretched wings (view is face forward). Since

drawing is what I love, I hand drew these in pencil. It is very heavily

hand quilted and this is still my most favorite quilt. I hope I finish it

before I die.

I remember taking a class on rendering Amish quilt patterns by hand with

Cunningham and Marsh in 1984 and they knew lots about old patterns. My

memory fails me but they also talked about spider's webs--I think it has

something to do with friendship but am not sure. Does anyone know what that

signifies? Also eagles are a symbol in quiltmaking. Experts????? Michele

in Moorpark,CA

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:05:48 -0500 (EST)

From: RBCochranaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #28

Message-ID: <970131100520_242158581emout07.mail.aol.com>

Debbie--

Might be interested. Where is symposium? I'll keep my eye out for mail on

this.

Rachel, also in NJ

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:00:06 -0500 (EST)

From: JZgliniecaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Any Help with History of Quilting Patterns

Message-ID: <970131105741_1313198869emout01.mail.aol.com>

Dear Deb and QHL,

I am new to this list, having only just discovered it this past week , being

relatively new to the web. I am not new to quilting however. My card says,

Quiltmaker, Instructor, Appraiser, certified by AQS.

The best place to start for the history of quilting patterns is:

Quilting. by Averil Colby. c. 1971. reprinted 1982. Scribner's.

SBN 684-16058-7

This text covers quilting, mainly in England from the 16 th cen to 20th cen.

It will get you started with the origins of quilting and the heritage

brought to this country.

Regards,

Julia Zgliniec, Poway, CA

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:06:54 -0600

From: "herbilady" <herbiladysoftwareplus.net>

To: 

Michele....I'm certainly not an expert but I believe that spiderwebs were

used as symbols of luck, at least this is my understanding of their

significance in crazy quilts. I could be wrong.....but this is why I've

tried to incorporate them into some of my hand-quilted projects....I've got

a great stencil for it!

Leah

----------

>

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:37:11 -0500 (EST)

From: DReyno3650aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: yankee & rebel uniforms

Message-ID: <970131123710_204548191emout19.mail.aol.com>

Sorry, my memory played me false, so I will let email the bulk of the message

to those who asked, and tell the rest of the net that this is the mistake I

made:

"After shearing the sheep and lacking gray dye, the ladies dyed some wool

black, left some white, and CARDED the two colors together to make gray...."

for the uniforms of the rebels.

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:13:36 -0500 (EST)

From: Quiltfixaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: some of everything

Message-ID: <970131171316_682434565emout06.mail.aol.com>

Well, I was crawling on the floor under my bed looking for articles to back

up my thoughts on some of the input here. If you don't read Piecework

magazine, you ought to. It may not always have things you're interested in,

but the breadth and scope of the information is really good. This and QNM

are the only needlework magazines I read every issue of.

I'm the culprit who wrote about Hobbs Heirloom. It wasn't a warning, just a

comment that I was having problems with it in a quilt and wondered if anyone

else had experienced the same thing. Everyone who's given me input loves the

stuff. I hate it. It made my quilting more difficult. I'm a purist - I use

all-natural fibers at any cost, but for some reason decided to try Heirloom.

The needle you use will definitely affect how easlly it quilts, so have two

or three brands on hand.

I think my silk baby-block is Henrietta fabric. Anyone know where I can

purchase some yardage of either vintage fabric or a good facsimile? I'm

looking for black silk.

MBGoodman asked about the blue markings on the edges of the appliqued

snowflakes on her quilt. I couldn't find the article, but there was a

depression-era marking kit that utilized a blue marking ink and stamps. The

article, which I believe may have been in QNM, stated that it was nearly

impossible to remove, which would explain why it would still be there after

so long.

Regarding the question about the change in fabric names (muslin), well,

remember that names are always fashionable. They change with the times.

Originally, chintz described the quality of the fabric in question, not the

pattern. The same goes for muslin, which wasn't what it is today. The same

for calico, etc. Color names also experience this problem, especially now

that instead of basic green colors, we have so many shade names, and then

they never seem to match from manufacturer to manufacturer.

I'm also interested in how to identify civil war era wools. It's an

interesting idea. I have a wool crazy and live below the Mason-Dixon, hence

the interest.

I have a question regarding the use of the Lone star pattern. I bought a

retoration project that has nine stars set in circles which are then set in

the block squares. All the diamonds are 3/4" . It's really neat bed sized

quilt, but I've never seen mulltiple lone stars like this. Is there maybe a

regional thing going on, or is it one-of-a-kind?

Log cabin quilts had a special purpose in the South during the Civil War.

It's my understanding that people who had "stations" for the Underground

Railroad would hang a log cabin quilt out front. These quilts had black

block centers instead of the traditional red. This would send the message

that if you were an escaping slave, safe refuge could be found.

Well, I've written quite a bit. Haven't had easy access to the internet the

last couple of days. I did finish the Frank Lloyd Wright quilt and don't

have to fuss with the batting again!

Have a good weekend.

Alan

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 16:58:35 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

Doesn't the spider symbolize industry (I mean hard work not making steel

or cars)?

Cinda in Scranton

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:32:23 -0500

From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>

To: 

In answer to Debby Roby's inquiry:

We have a lot in common. I have taught high school English for 27 years

(I can't believe it has been that long!) and I love history and

quilting. In fact I run a sort of quilting open house for my friends

every Monday after school. We eat and gossip, and sometimes sew a

little. I used to teach quilting, but most ladies want to take it at

night, and since I get up at 5am. it makes it hard. Instead I just teach

my friends for fun.

I have one antique quilt that you might be interested in. My Maternal

Grandmother came from near Quebec and settled in Pawtucket RI. I brought

a red and white quilt that I suspect she made (she was 70 when I was

born in 1946 and did not speak much English) to a documentation day

sponsored by URI. As a result of the fact that I knew so much about that

generation and had pictures of her and her four sisters, her parents,

and her mother's parents, and the fact that it is very graphic and in in

excellent condition, the quilt became the centerpiece for their book on

Rhode Island quilts [still to be published] and for a special museum

exhibit which is displayed at its second museum now. The first one was

in Quebec and contained about fifteen quilts made by former residents of

Canada who had moved to RI. I learned by reading the booklet written for

the exhibit that my quilt had the typical quilting pattern of the time

(probably the 1930ties) and location. It is like a series of overlapping

half-rainbows. The piecing itself is very geometric and the quilting has

no relation to the piecing. If I could figure out how to send

attachments to email I would send you an electronic photo of it [and my

cat who loves quilts]. If you send me your snail mail address I could

send you a hard copy. I don't know if this would be of interest to your

customers, but it is authentic. I also don't know how well it would

translate to a machine design.

The exhibit is supposed to be shown at the Slater Mill in Pawtucket

sometime this summer. I will keep you informed.

Diane in snow flurries in southeastern Massachusetts

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:08:35 -0500 (EST)

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: spiderwebs

Message-ID: <970131190739_-1610594765emout18.mail.aol.com>

Here is information on Spiders, Butterflies & Insects, quoted from Penny

McMorris's book "Crazy Quilts" pub by EP Dutton, 1984, pg. 58 :

"Spiders, moths, butterflies and insects of all kinds were used to

decorate patches on crazy quilts. They were not a new subject for

embroidery: inventories of Queen Elizabeth's wardrobe, for instance, taken

about 1600, mention dresses covered with embroidered spiders, flies, and

webs. Nor was the interest in these creatures limited to their use in

embroidery. Butterflies were worn during the second half of the 19th century

on hats and hair, and jewels in the form of beetles, dragonflies, and other

insects were popular. Pins were often designed witha somewhat pranksterish

desire to fool the eye. GODEY's (Sept 1879) told readers, "A fly is the

fancy ornament of the day, a pretty little fly, so skillfully and perfectly

imitiated that it looks like life...It deceives everyone."

"Late Victorians seem to have held a special fondness for spiders and

their beautiful webs. The Ohio Historical Society has a wonderful hat

covered with gold-embroidered spiderwebs, and HARPER'S BAZAAR tells readers

of a spider pin "with its body of pearls and legs of silver...crawling in

among the latest novelties."

This book does not go into the symbolism of spiders, butterflies, etc.,

but I have also heard that the spider/web was supposed to be a symbol of good

luck, and the butterfly is the symbol of eternal life. Hope some of the rest

of you have more to add! Karan from Iowa, with suddenly spring like

temperatures!!

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:32:54 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Any Help with History of Quilting Patterns

Message-ID: <970131193253_-2045383082emout16.mail.aol.com>

Julia in Poway (where I have friends) does the book tell the origin of the

quilt patterns, such as the Spider Web mentioned previously? Or like

feathered wreaths, cables, etc?? Jane in Pittsburgh

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:01:37 -0800

From: Bev Jordan <qultfixdirectcon.net>

To: 

There will be a quilting party on March 22 and 23 in Coloma State Park,

California.

Those interested in attending and wanting more information can contact Carol

Verbeeck,

event coordinator at (408) 779-4844 (evenings until 8:00 p.m. Pacific

Standard Time),

or you can write her and request the information packet/invitation at P.O.

Box 1731,

Morgan Hill, CA 95038. To attend, you must register before March 1 and get your

block done (they have a pattern and specific instructions for the block) and

send it

in before that date.

The plans are for an old-fashioned quilting bee. Participants can make and

send a

block (need to contact Carol for the invite and instructions for the block)

and can

then spend all or part of the 22nd and 23rd putting the blocks received

together and

getting a quilt quilted during the two day event. On Sunday, those

participating,

including those who sent blocks, are entered in the drawing for the quilt, in

whatever stage of completion and any completed tops made from the blocks or

packets

of blocks.

As an added attempt to recreate the atmosphere of an original quilting in 1846,

participants are requested to attend in clothing appropriate for the mid-1800's,

for example: a long, full skirt & simple blouse and shawl would be fine.

If you are in the No. California area or will be and are interested in

attending

this event or want more information, contact Carol.

No affiliation, just an interested potential participant. I'd be happy to

share more

information if you want it. Oh yes, there's also going to be a Victorian Tea

Luncheon for participants on Saturday, March 22, and as far as I can tell, other

than a possible parking fee ($5) if you aren't participating in the

quilting, the

cost of the Tea Luncheon is $12.50.

Bev

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te: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:56:12 -0500 (EST)
From: JZgliniecaol.com

Colby's Quilting gives some origins ..but not much speculation. Mostly it is
descriptive of what types of motifs and filler patterns were being used and
when as well as period names for things. It is an excellent text.

IMHO, quiltmakers of the 18th and early 19th century used sources such as
embroidery patterns and drawings ( for which every proper young girl was
trained) as inspiration for quilting designs. You might check out some
embroidery history books to find the "meaning" of some motifs.

Regards,

Julia

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:56:06 -0500 (EST)
From: JZgliniecaol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: spiderwebs
Message-ID: <970131225606_242252302emout10.mail.aol.com>

Dear Cinda and QHL,

The Bee symbolized industry and is part of the logo of the state of Utah.
The hive or straw skep is sometimes used in place of the bee to mean the
same thing.

The spider and web was also used by weavers and lace makers. Read the myth
of Arachne...the maid who was turned into a spider by the jealous Minerva
...because she could weave so well. This is possibly the earliest ref. to
not angering the gods by creating the perfect thing.

Julia....in Poway, CA

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:07:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Baglady111aol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: spiderwebs
Message-ID: <970201060717_540199587emout09.mail.aol.com>

Julia, in Poway, mentions the bee. As a lecturer, one of my programs is about
quilt patterns such as teh Double Wedding Ring, Log Cabin, Ohio Star,
etc..this story was told by a lady in my audience..being a teacher, she often
used quilt patterns as a teaching tool..One was teh HONEY BEE..and elderly
gentleman cme to school one day to pick up his g.child..he saw the pattern
and was so overcome with emotion tears began to roll down his cheeks..he came
over, began patting the hand of the teacher and then also touched her cheek
(patted her face gently), turned and walked away. The teacher followed thru
and found out that he was a Jewish gentleman who had suffered the Nazi's in
Germany oh so many years ago..the HONEY BEE was a symbol of help for the Jews
who were trying to get out of Nazi Germany..people would wear one/display one
when they could, to show they would help you..much like signs for the slaves
trying to make their way thru the underground rr..this pattern of the HONEY
BEE brought it all back to him..he made it out, but not his many family
members and friends..He spoke very broken English and would have found it
more difficult to explain onto of his emotionalism. Jane

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:11:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Baglady111aol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Any Help with History of Quilting Patterns
Message-ID: <970201061143_-1911762395emout18.mail.aol.com>

Alice & Buck Polk..Know them? Buck specializes in collectable Singers..
It is my understanding that young girls in days gone by were not
educated..only the boys went to school..the little girl was taught to sew a
very fine seam and do other forms of needlework..the 9 Patch was a good
example..it was her arithmetic lesson, mama kept the bigger pieces for
herself and she got the itty bitty ones so it taught her precision as
well..and color combination..this is a fun forum..my history teacher, long
gone now, would be proud..cause he never got thru to me..Jane

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 07:05:53 -0500
From: Cathy Hooley <goosetracksalbany.net>
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Re: Quilting Stencils
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970201120553.006b325cmail.albany.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Nancy in VA asked:
>... where is a good source of
>pre-made quilting stencils? I'd be interested in finding some.

Try:
Quilting Creations International, Inc.
Box 512
Zoar, OH 44697
330-874-4741
FAX = 330-874-3200

They have continuous line & traditional patterns, a designer section
including patterns by Harriet Hargrave, Helen Squire, Hari Walner & an
international section. I haven't bought any through the catalog yet, but
they look good!

Cathy

Cathy Hooley <goosetracksalbany.net>

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 16:13:44 EST
From: "Bob Mills" <decisiontigger.jvnc.net>
To: "Quilter's Heritage List" <QHLcue.com>
Subject: QHL: NYC quilters symposium
Message-Id: <decision.1205219264Etigger.jvnc.net>

Debbie in NJ writes:Is anyone going into NY City for the symposium on
antique quilts on Feb
14th? I would love to go and am wondering if anyone has any other
information besides what I got in the mail yesterday.

Debbie, could you share what you got with the rest of us? I would like to
know more. Thank you

Jan in Princeton NJ

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 18:12:43 -0500
From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Black silk and centers
Message-ID: <32F3CDEB.4FF9ici.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Re: Alan's request for a source for black silk. In the Victorian days
black silk mourning dresses were quite common. I inherited two from my
motheer-in-law before she passed away. I hope to restore them as some of
the silk is in shreads, probably from being used as a (gasp!) halloween
costume. I plan to line the dresses with black batiste if I can find it
someday. However, if you can find similar garments in flea markets, etc.
some parts might be in good enough shape to use for your restoration
project. At least it sounds as if black might be an easier color that
you think to find.
I have also heard the story about the log cabin quilts and the
underground railroad. Have they ever been documented? Many Quakers were
"conductors" on the railroad. I wonder if that is an additional
connection?
Good luck with your projects,
Diane McGuire

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:03:44 -0500
From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: spiderwebs
Message-Id: <v01540b06af18c87cbbea[168.121.76.43]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Leah, how interesting that spider webs are considered a symbol of luck. I
dont have a pattern, but I do have a daughter who used to like to play
tricks on me. One night she put a big plastic spider on the kitchen floor.
When I got up early to make the coffee I stepped on it and jumped a mile
high.

I always sat at my quilting frame in the early AM to do some serious hand
quilting before the family woke up. I just plucked that plastic spider into
a section of a quilt I was making, traced it on the quilt top and quilted
it in. I had n temlate so i just quilted a spider web i drew free hand
around it. It was an Attic Windows quilt, so it was perfect. :-)

m: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>
To: QHLcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: quilting patterns
Message-Id: <199702030352.TAA25859orbital.cue.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

To the lady interested in quilting patterns - be sure to look into the
"wave" pattern of the early 1800's, attributed to Irish quilters. It's my
understanding that a number of the early chintz broderie perse quilts were
quilted this way.

Ricki in PA

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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 23:26:57 -0500
From: mgoodmanalbany.net (Mary Beth Goodman)
To: QuiltAliveaol.com
Cc: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Re: Snowflake Quilt Kit
Message-Id: <v02130501af1b177c1107[206.72.193.205]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thank you so much Merikay!

I received the photocopies of the patterns from you and that is definitely
the quilt! Right down to the dogtooth border.

Isn't it intriguing that they brought back the same pattern with same
sample photo some 25+ years later?

I found it fascinating that the quilt was offered as a kit in four colors
(including the grey which the one I'd seen was done in). That grey color
seemed to be the one of choice since it was the color mentioned in the
directions in later years. At least in one place they gave the idea of
putting it on different background colors.

I will pass along the information to the quilt owners and I'm sure they
will be thrilled

Thanks again

mary Beth Goodman
NYQuilts!
http://www.albany.net/~mgoodman/NYQuilts.htm

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:21:47 -0600 (CST)
From: Phil & Lee Spanner <philspanwin.bright.net>
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #27
Message-Id: <199702031321.HAA09791bucky.win.bright.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Subject: Re: Web Pages
>
>I have a question for all you webmasters out there. I get complaints from
>time to time that my web page takes a long time to upload. I have tried
>putting fewer pictures on the page. I've tried deleting the pictures
>altogether and just putting smaller pictures on the page. Is there some
>trick I am missing, or is the slow upload time a result of my server?
>
>Kris

I had this problem with a lot of my pages too. I started checking the size
file of everthing I was using. I found that some of the animation had large
files and I deleted them. I also found that many of the backgrounds I was
using had files even larger than some of the animation I was using. I used
some smaller back grounds and found it helped a great deal.

Hope this helps.

Lee :^)

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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 97 19:45:44 GMT
From: osborneiinet.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Barbara Brackman
Message-ID: <M.020397.114544.20SMDKSBCR>

Hi all, Our guild has Barbara Brackman coming to lecture On Feb. 13th on
Turkey Red and it's
uses in quilts and Then Thursday and Friday (we filled both days , she is
doing a workshop on
Civil War quilts. She's probably doing a California tour right now. We are
all excited as we
were told this might be the last year she is going to travel with her
lectures. It should be an
exciting for us.
--
Karen Osborne Quiltabeast in Murrieta, CA
osborneiinet.com

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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 21:39:17 -0800
From: nomad1ibm.net
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL:QHL Restoration
Message-ID: <32F6CB85.17BAibm.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Dear All,
I unwillingly acquired a quilt, that looks as if two dogs have fought
over it in a tug-o-war!!. My DH suggested I throw it out!! Sacre bleu!!
As I am a quilt sentimentalist , I would like to save it as it has some
prtty prints---mainly 30's & 20's.
Its been hand quilted & its a Double Axe quilt. It also was filthy &
stunk--after many washes in Orvus it looks happier.
Clever Quilt Restorers out there , please advise--should or rather can I
safely remove the backing and batting and put on clean ones?. I am
concerned about the quilting, i.e should I unpick it and then re
quilt--will it leave holes etc. I really want to try my hand at restoring
this quilt as I have never done this before & feel this will be a good
practise piece.
Thank you for all the lovely sharing on QHL--in the midst of chaos I
sneak away to have a peep & recharge my batteries.
Bye for now-Hiranya , Sydney Australia
Quilting Treasures of Old
(02) 9630-5839
e-mail nomad1ibm.net

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:07:30 -0500 (EST)
From: AJSNGSaol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Re: QHL-Barbara Brackman
Message-ID: <970203145720_1860778838emout08.mail.aol.com>

Hi Karen,

Lucky you! Be sure to share with all of us after Barbara Brackman comes to
your guild. I'd especially like to hear about Civil War quilts.

Thanks,

Nancy in Virginia

Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:25:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Gail Wagner <dpw13mindspring.com> (by way of Quilting Heritage
ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>)
To: QHLcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Unidentified subject!
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Well, after Day One of the big book sale, I am POOPED!! It was a madhouse.
I did not get any of the titles that were e-mailed to me. I did get some
goodies though. Some of these I was able to get more than one copy so
e-mail me if anyone is interested in anything. The Sunbonnet Family of
Quilt Patterns, by Dolores A. Hinson, c. 1983. The Standard Book of Quilt
Making and Collecting by Marguerite Ickis, c. 1949. Quilting, Patchwork,
Applique, and Trapunto by Thelma R. Newman, c. 1974. One book that I bought
is especially interesting. I got it intending to resell it but may keep it:
American Quilts, A Sampler of Quilts and Their Stories by Jennifer Regan, c.
1989. The first quilt discussed is the Graveyard Quilt by Eliabeth
Roseberry Mitchell, c. 1839, which I read about recently somewhere. This is
really a very curious quilt. I'll be back at the sale tomorrow still hoping
to find those Montgomery, Pettit, or Peto books.

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 23:13:48 PST
From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>
To: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>, QHLcue.com
Subject: RE: QHL: quilting patterns
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Ricki,
    Can you give some more information about the "wave" quilting
pattern. TIA
Cinda in Scranton
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Name: John & Cinda Cawley
E-mail: cawleyepix.net
Date: 2/3/97
Time: 11:13:49 PM

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:06:08 -0500 (EST)
From: CTislanderaol.com
To: qultfixdirectcon.net
cc: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Sarah's Quilting Party
Message-ID: <970203215507_74842470emout01.mail.aol.com>

Bev Jordan,

Thank you for posting the information about Sarah's Quilting Party on March
22 and 23 in Coloma State Park.

I called Carol Verbeeck and had a nice long chat with her. The event sounds
like such fun. I am anxiously awaiting my packet with the block pattern and
other instructions. Carol was thrilled that the information was put out on
the internet. She asked if the pattern could be put on somehow. I said I'd
check around and see if it is possible. Do you know how this could be done?
I could draw it up in Quilt-Pro and send a file, but only people with Q-P
could get it.

I plan to make the block and am now trying to think of some wonderful,
appropriate verse to write on it. I suppose the block should be hand sewn
since the sewing machine was not in common use until the 1870s or so. Also,
I think I will be able to go to the quilting bee and I am also thinking about
what I can find to wear. I love sewing for quilting, but the thought of
making a dress after all these years is daunting. I hardly even sew on
buttons these days. I won't hand sew an outfit!

Are you planning to go? You must be somewhere in Northern California. I live
in Bethel Island in the Delta -- east of Antioch, west of Sacramento.

Christine Thresh

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:21:30 -0500 (EST)
From: SadieRoseaol.com
To: QHLcue.com, QUILTNETlsv.uky.edu
Subject: QHL: Simply Quilts - Feb.
Message-ID: <970204003328_204998241emout16.mail.aol.com>

Here is the SIMPLY QUILTS schedule for February, as per their program guide.
The show airs on HGTV from 9:30 to 10:00 am and 2:30 to 3:00 pm, EST, on
Tuesdays and Thursdays. The Tuesday show is also repeated on Saturday from
1:00- 1:30 pm. The Thursday show is repeated on Sunday from 4:30 - 5:00 pm.


Feb. 4 Antique Quilts
Feb. 6 Quilt Decor
Feb. 11 Movie Quilt
Feb. 13 Basket Block
Feb. 18 Feathered Stars
Feb. 20 Computerized Quilts
Feb. 25 Photo Transfers
Feb. 27 Designing Fabric

Happy Viewing!! Karan from Iowa, where the blizzard has started!

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:49:52 +0800
From: balfourkechidna.id.au (Kath Balfour)
To: QHLcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: New batting & backing
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Hiranya has the same problem we do! We bought a lovely old quilt that was
beautifully pieced & quilted. Unfortunately, it must have been used as a
pad between the mattress and iron bedsprings out in humid Deep East
Texas--the back is eaten through in spirals of rust and the batting is
shredding through the holes. The top looks okay. We're not sure whether to
unpick it and try saving the top, or to baste a cover of lightweight muslin
over the back and try washing and drying it. The quilt is quite heavy. Any
ideas? Anyone have any success rescuing such an orphan?

--
Kath Balfour
37 Gibson St
Hilton WA 6163
AUSTRALIA

e-mail: balfourkechidna.id.au
fax: +619-336-4230
voice: +619-335-6401

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:20:06 -0800
From: Lynn & Debbie CUPP <lcupperols.com>
To: QHLcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Quilting teenager
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Well, I must admit that the worst I've heard from Karlene who is a mature
13 is "I know" when I remind her to do something. I'm sure it could get
a lot worse but for right now I am enjoying her efforts at sewing. She
likes doing machine embroidery embellishments to the pinwoven vests. She
made me some crazy quilt pillows that are really neat. Her sense of
color is great; something I struggle with. Last year we had the raffle
quilt at our home to work on, a blue/white pineapple with lots of
quilting in the ditch. She asked to help and I showed her a few basics
and she pulled up a chair and joined me. She was very conscientious
(sp?) and even stopped to rip some out occasionally. When I asked
why--she replied "They were too big and crooked". Wow! I never had
noticed. I thought they looked very good.

Last night I took an appliqued heart over a 4 patch to our monthly block
drawing. She was sorry to see it go and really inspected the block
closely. "Can you show me how to applique?" What is it they say--strike
while the iron is hot?

Debbie Cupp
Virginia Beach

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:27:01 -0800
From: Lynn & Debbie CUPP <lcupperols.com>
To: QHLcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Apology
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I am so sorry I sent that quilting teenager message to this list. I
meant to send it to QuiltBee. Not enough caffeine yet this morning.
Sorry folks!

Debbie

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:51:02 +0000
From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettfast.net>
To: QHLcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Quaker Quilts Show in PA
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Yesterday I went to a show at the Brandywine River Museum in Chadds Ford, PA,
which is in western Delaware County outside Philadelphia. It is titled "Of the
best Sort but Plain: Quaker Quilts from the Delaware Valley 1760-1890."

The 21 quilts in the exhibit were wonderful. Three whole cloth silk quilts,
two doll quilts - one silk, one cotton, a silk crib quilt, a cotton sunburst,
two cotton Lone Stars with applique chintz and pieced stars in the outer
setting areas, a silk bars quilt, a silk courthouse steps, and numerous pieced
and appliqued friendship or sampler quilts, several being red and green.

The provenance of the quilts was complete - many are still in the Quaker
families of the makers. Those on loan from collections had histories with
them. These histories were very interesting -

1. The starburst was made for a girl after her betrothal but before the wedding
her church split and since the boys family went with the more "liberal" half,
she was not allowed to marry him, and died a spinster.

2. One of the whole cloth quilts had the silk wedding petticoat as kind of a
central panel with matching silk around it to make it bed size.

3. A large number of the quilts have signatures and dates and the stories are
there about weddings and other presentations.

Except for the silk quilts, which is not to my knowledge a usual choice of
fabric, these quilts do not shout "I am Quaker" the way Amish and Pennsylvania
Dutch quilts do by their styles, fabrics and colors. Many of these quilts -
style, fabric, etc - could have been made by any woman of means living in the
thriving Philadelphia area at the time. The Quakers were prominent merchants
and businessmen in a prosperous shipping area and these quilts reflect that
standard of life.

These quilts were "best" quilts and saved through the years. The stitching is
incredible - especially the quilting. Such tiny stitches - like 20 to the
inch. The applique stitches are fine and nearly invisible. The piecing is
precise. The quantity of inked signatures and sayings is large and very
interesting.

The curator seems to feel that the Quakers were plain people and we should be
shocked by the beauty of these quilts. In conversations with many people in
the area, including one person from England where the Quakers originally came
from, the general feeling is that the words elegant and refined more aptly
describe them. They were not flashy, but nobody except the curator felt plain
described the Quakers. I would describe these quilts as elegant - the best of
the types being made at this time by any group of people.

I highly recommend a visit if you are able. There is a catalogue available -
mostly black and white pictures but some color. I haven't read it yet but got
it for the pictures. Brandywine River Museum is on Route 1 in Chadds Ford, PA,
and is very easy to find. Admission $5, parking free. Hours 9:30 to 5 daily.
If anyone would like detailed directions, please e-mail me. The show ends
March 16. Also, if anyone is interested, I might be able to send copies of the
catalogue. E-mail me privately if you want to discuss this.

Now, a personal request. Many local museums and historical societies mount
beautiful quilt shows, but do not have the financial means to advertize in
large areas. Since they do many different types of shows, they don't know to
announce the show in quilting magazines, etc., so if you learn of a show,
please post information to the list. Sometimes a show could be as close as an
hour and half to where we live, but it is never mentioned in the local paper.
Thank you.

Barb in southeastern PA
<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:28:56 -0500 (EST)
From: AJSNGSaol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: New batting & backing
Message-ID: <970204081923_-1576608368emout11.mail.aol.com>

Hi All,

I too have a quilt that the batting is coming out of (binding on two ends is
falling apart) and I've wondered what I should do to save this. The top is
still quite pretty despite obvious wear. Should a new backing be put on
right over the other one? Or should new batting be put in where it has
fallen out, then a new backing?

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Nancy in VA

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:34:40 -0500 (EST)
From: DReyno3650aol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: New batting & backing
Message-ID: <970204115753_-1844878481emout09.mail.aol.com>

Hello Everyone:
I too have a quilt I salvaged from a rummage sale we were conducting.
The other ladies hid this satin and velvet crazy quilt in a box in the
kitchen. "Throw away that old thing" was the advice they had. But I
couldn't, and finally donated $20 to keep it. Only one of the pieces has
disintegrated, but it is consistent and is scattered all over. Can't tell
what kind of fabric it was, but now it is brownish with a yellow cast,
leading me to think it might have been one of those greens. It looks to me
like the woof has disintegrated completely--gone, leaving no trace--while the
weft is cotton, the brown color, and still there, but disattached at one end.
The thing that makes the quilt special are the silk embellishments add:
one, from the Rose Fair they held locally from about 1890, the other from an
early swim club The Dolphins, who I believe swam in the Pacific Ocean before
the Boardwalk was built in 1905. (Brrr). The satin and velvet pieces are
basted (threads still in place exposed by the rotting pieces) over a heavy
dark brown herringbone twill, which also is splitting lengthwise from age.
It had a batting and back at some time, but the batting is cut away, and the
back was a hot pink silk that is still around the edges.
I have the embroidery skills to redo this quilt, and would like to
restore it (the top only, and bind it hopefully with the red silk still in
place) and donate it to the local history museum. I don't think they would
take it in the current condition, and I don't have the history of it, except
it is local. I would like an opinion of the group on whether this should be
done, or whether I should make it into a wall hanging by cutting squares out
of the good parts and stitching them into a wall hanging. This is like
desecration to even think of doing, but something must be done.
What does the group think?
Willa Dean Reynolds
Soquel, Santa Cruz County, California

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:51:35 -0500 (EST)
From: QuiltAliveaol.com
To: qhlcuenet.com
Subject: QHL: 1930s-40s Radio Quilts
Message-ID: <970204124919_-1911359708emout10.mail.aol.com>

Has anyone seen an embroidered Friendship quilt that might have some
reference to "My Radio Friend"? WLS radio broadcast from Chicago. On one
program in the early 1930s the announcer encouraged listeners to send in (or
trade) cloth blocks with other radio listeners. I've seen one completed
quilt top owned by a friend in Indiana. The blocks were obviously different
sizes when the maker received them. Each block has an embroidered name, date
or place. A couple blocks refer to "My Radio Friend." -- Merikay Waldvogel

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:09:36 -0500 (EST)
From: SadieRoseaol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Apology
Message-ID: <970204130507_-1543378643emout13.mail.aol.com>

Debbie,
No apologies necessary.... I am always pleased to hear about "future
quilters" ...we have to keep this "quilting revival" going!! Gee, how fun,
you can get her some of her own supplies for birthday, Christmas, etc. I got
my Mom started quilting when she retired a year ago. We wrapped all her
presents in fabric....got her tools that she would need, a book &
subscription to Quilter's Newsletter, etc. Don't suppose you would want to
overdo that with a teenager, but a few 'quilty' gifts would probably be
appreciated!
I have gone to the "home ec" (only now they have some fancy title for it!)
class at my boys' high school, and taught quilting. The kids loved it!
For "practice" sewing on the machine, we had them make strip sets for Nine
Patch blocks. Then, they made the blocks into 30" square quilts, backed with
flannel, which our quilt guild makes to donate to the Preemie Intensive Care
nursery at a local hospital. The kids felt like their "practice sewing" made
something worthwhile....not just sewing along lines on a piece of paper with
an unthreaded needle, which was what the teacher had planned.
Living with teenagers is a challenge, my boys are 16 and almost 18. Most
of the time, they are wonderful....enjoy them while you can...it goes by too
fast!! My oldest is a Senior, so we are looking into college options
now....hard to think that in 6 months he may be living 2 hours away. :(
But, I know he needs to get away from home and start his own life, too.
Sure makes you appreciate your parents, and what they did (and didn't do)
for you!!
We had 8-10" of snow overnight....no school....not too easy to get
around, even with my 4 wheel drive Jeep!! So, I am going to get busy
stitching!! Happy Quilting to BOTH of you!! Karan

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:49:57 -0500 (EST)
From: HKnight453aol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Re: Apology
Message-ID: <970204174203_1146016431emout01.mail.aol.com>

This is for Diane- A good souce for black bastise is hancock's fabrics.
Their new site is fabric1.com. They can also be called at 1-800-845-8723.
Their prices are excellent.
Heather from cold RI

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 18:58:31 -0500
From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: Re: restoring a badly damaged quilt
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Re: Hiranya , Sydney Australia and her questions about restoring an old
quilt.
Your quilt sounds delightful, could we have a more detailed description?
Colors? Pattern?
I an also in the process of trying to save what I can from an antique
quilt. Mine was made about 1880 and was found in a barn, the happy home
for a family of mice. It is a basket quilt and had a really wide and
ugly green border. I carefully removed the border to discover more
pieced squares under it! The baskets, mostly brown and red prints on
shirting, are just triangles with machine appliqued half circle handles.
The sashing was a black prints, faded to charcoal or less. It was also
filthy and some of the fabric is fragile.
I had the incredible priviledge of working with Richard Cleveland on a
Massachusetts Quilt Documentation day and I asked his advise. [He is the
founder of the Vermont Quilt Festival and wrote the book on the Vermont
documentation. He is helping neighboring states to begin documentation.]
He said that the quilt was in such bad shape that anything I did would
be an improvement. That gave me the courage to remove the ties [not
quilted] and the backing and batting, fortunately outside in summer. It
was then that I realized how dirty and smelly it really was. I was going
to try to save the batting, but now I think I will preserve a very small
sealed plastic bag of it and toss the rest. I have decided to take apart
the squares, baste them to cotton batiste as a backing, and wash them.
Ivory clear liquid soap was recommended to me. Cheer liquid has been
given the cotton industy offical seal of approval because it does not
alter the color of the fabric.
I have taken pictures of the quilt, as I found it, with the ugly green
border removed, and I will reconfigure best of the pieces left into a
quilt that can be displayed with care. The rest I will try to recycle
into paper pieced projects that use tiny bits of fabric.
I felt very encouraged by the people I talked to about the
reconstruction project. This is not a special or artistic quilt, but
someone cared about it, and I would like to keep the best parts of it
alive for others to enjoy.
I don't know what I would do if it were quilted except to pick out the
stitches and not worry about any little holes left. It is supposed to
look old and restored. It is loved and admired, that is the main goal.
One important rule I have been told from many sources: USE ONLY THE
ORIGINAL FABRICS. even if you have to make the quilt smaller. If you
start using reproductions or worse, you lessen the value, and probably
the aesthetics of the quilt.
I would love to hear from others who have saved "rag" quilts.
Hope I have given you some ideas,
Diane, in still cold, but not too snowy Massachusetts

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:56:07 -0500
From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: QHL: saving a local quilt
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Willa Dean Reynolds asked our opinion about restoring a badly damaged
quilt. I applaud your efforts! My opinion is that you should take the
best parts and restore them to mark the design and significance of the
quilt, and then make your own personal contribution to quilt history.
Every part of history wears away. Save the best so that we can remember
and learn. We do not have to reproduce the past exactly. Record what you
know or surmise about the quilt, attach a label with that information,
and recycle what you can of the rest for a personal momento.
Good luck with your project.
Diane, who wishes we could see all of these projects.

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:12:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Karen108delphi.com
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When it comes to the old quilts with the mangled backing and batting, I'd
definitely remove the back and batt and start over. Iron will corrode the
fabric. Test launder the top and if it can stand it, *gently* wash it in cool
water (by hand, mildest soap available) and dry it on the lawn. This will get
any traces of iron out of the top. I'd requilt it with a cotton batt and a
cotton thread; poly core threads can eventually cut through old cloth.

Good luck!

Karen Evans
Springfield, MA

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:40:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Karen108delphi.com
To: qhlcuenet.com
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Willa - I'd restore the quilt and give it to the museum. It sounds much too
interesting to cut up!

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:15:51 -0500 (EST)
From: BFquilteraol.com
To: QHLcue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Quilting teenager,I wish
Message-ID: <970204151509_1794581823emout19.mail.aol.com>

Dear Debbie,

I read with interest your story about your 13 year old who likes to quilt.
Lucky you that you can share a hobby with your teen & spend time with her.
I'm a retired Home Ec. teacher & enjoy sewing, quilting, baking, embroidery,
etc. I always dreamed of my daughter, now 15, sharing my interests and being
able to teach her some of my hobbies. As you probably guessed, she's not the
least bit interested. Sad me!. But guess what ? My 7 year old son loves to
bake & sew with me. He is currently taking a sewing class for little kids &
loves it. But he has been pressing quilt blocks for me for 2 years, after I
had shoulder surgery & had difficulty lifting the iron. I save all my scraps
for him & he loves making doll size crazy quilts. At last I have a prodigy &
we have fun spending time together. So don't despair the rest of you with
non-interested teens, perhaps your sons will fulfill your dreams!

Barb in very cold & snowy Minnesota (about 69 inches so far this year)

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:56:12 -0500 (EST)

From: JZgliniecaol.com

To:

Dear Jane,

Who are your friends? Maybe I know them.

Colby's Quilting gives some origins ..but not much speculation. Mostly it is

descriptive of what types of motifs and filler patterns were being used and

when as well as period names for things. It is an excellent text.

IMHO, quiltmakers of the 18th and early 19th century used sources such as

embroidery patterns and drawings ( for which every proper young girl was

trained) as inspiration for quilting designs. You might check out some

embroidery history books to find the "meaning" of some motifs.

Regards,

Julia

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:56:06 -0500 (EST)

From: JZgliniecaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: spiderwebs

Message-ID: <970131225606_242252302emout10.mail.aol.com>

Dear Cinda and QHL,

The Bee symbolized industry and is part of the logo of the state of Utah.

The hive or straw skep is sometimes used in place of the bee to mean the

same thing.

The spider and web was also used by weavers and lace makers. Read the myth

of Arachne...the maid who was turned into a spider by the jealous Minerva

...because she could weave so well. This is possibly the earliest ref. to

not angering the gods by creating the perfect thing.

Julia....in Poway, CA

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:07:18 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: spiderwebs

Message-ID: <970201060717_540199587emout09.mail.aol.com>

Julia, in Poway, mentions the bee. As a lecturer, one of my programs is about

quilt patterns such as teh Double Wedding Ring, Log Cabin, Ohio Star,

etc..this story was told by a lady in my audience..being a teacher, she often

used quilt patterns as a teaching tool..One was teh HONEY BEE..and elderly

gentleman cme to school one day to pick up his g.child..he saw the pattern

and was so overcome with emotion tears began to roll down his cheeks..he came

over, began patting the hand of the teacher and then also touched her cheek

(patted her face gently), turned and walked away. The teacher followed thru

and found out that he was a Jewish gentleman who had suffered the Nazi's in

Germany oh so many years ago..the HONEY BEE was a symbol of help for the Jews

who were trying to get out of Nazi Germany..people would wear one/display one

when they could, to show they would help you..much like signs for the slaves

trying to make their way thru the underground rr..this pattern of the HONEY

BEE brought it all back to him..he made it out, but not his many family

members and friends..He spoke very broken English and would have found it

more difficult to explain onto of his emotionalism. Jane

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:11:43 -0500 (EST)

From: Baglady111aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Any Help with History of Quilting Patterns

Message-ID: <970201061143_-1911762395emout18.mail.aol.com>

Alice & Buck Polk..Know them? Buck specializes in collectable Singers..

It is my understanding that young girls in days gone by were not

educated..only the boys went to school..the little girl was taught to sew a

very fine seam and do other forms of needlework..the 9 Patch was a good

example..it was her arithmetic lesson, mama kept the bigger pieces for

herself and she got the itty bitty ones so it taught her precision as

well..and color combination..this is a fun forum..my history teacher, long

gone now, would be proud..cause he never got thru to me..Jane

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 07:05:53 -0500

From: Cathy Hooley <goosetracksalbany.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Quilting Stencils

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>Nancy in VA asked:

>... where is a good source of

>pre-made quilting stencils? I'd be interested in finding some.

Try:

Quilting Creations International, Inc.

Box 512

Zoar, OH 44697

330-874-4741

FAX = 330-874-3200

They have continuous line & traditional patterns, a designer section

including patterns by Harriet Hargrave, Helen Squire, Hari Walner & an

international section. I haven't bought any through the catalog yet, but

they look good!

Cathy

Cathy Hooley <goosetracksalbany.net>

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 16:13:44 EST

From: "Bob Mills" <decisiontigger.jvnc.net>

To: "Quilter's Heritage List" <QHLcue.com>

Subject: QHL: NYC quilters symposium

Message-Id: <decision.1205219264Etigger.jvnc.net>

Debbie in NJ writes:Is anyone going into NY City for the symposium on

antique quilts on Feb

14th? I would love to go and am wondering if anyone has any other

information besides what I got in the mail yesterday.

Debbie, could you share what you got with the rest of us? I would like to

know more. Thank you

Jan in Princeton NJ

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 18:12:43 -0500

From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Black silk and centers

Message-ID: <32F3CDEB.4FF9ici.net>

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Re: Alan's request for a source for black silk. In the Victorian days

black silk mourning dresses were quite common. I inherited two from my

motheer-in-law before she passed away. I hope to restore them as some of

the silk is in shreads, probably from being used as a (gasp!) halloween

costume. I plan to line the dresses with black batiste if I can find it

someday. However, if you can find similar garments in flea markets, etc.

some parts might be in good enough shape to use for your restoration

project. At least it sounds as if black might be an easier color that

you think to find.

I have also heard the story about the log cabin quilts and the

underground railroad. Have they ever been documented? Many Quakers were

"conductors" on the railroad. I wonder if that is an additional

connection?

Good luck with your projects,

Diane McGuire

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:03:44 -0500

From: quiltmagmindspring.com (Jean Ann)

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: spiderwebs

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Leah, how interesting that spider webs are considered a symbol of luck. I

dont have a pattern, but I do have a daughter who used to like to play

tricks on me. One night she put a big plastic spider on the kitchen floor.

When I got up early to make the coffee I stepped on it and jumped a mile

high.

I always sat at my quilting frame in the early AM to do some serious hand

quilting before the family woke up. I just plucked that plastic spider into

a section of a quilt I was making, traced it on the quilt top and quilted

it in. I had n temlate so i just quilted a spider web i drew free hand

around it. It was an Attic Windows quilt, so it was perfect. :-)

Jean Ann Eitel

Editor, QUILT magazine

http://www.quiltmag.com

Let's Talk Quilting: dal.net IRC - /join #quilttalk

http://www.quiltmag.com/QuiltTalk/

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Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 22:57:35 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: quilting patterns

Message-Id: <199702030352.TAA25859orbital.cue.com>

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To the lady interested in quilting patterns - be sure to look into the

"wave" pattern of the early 1800's, attributed to Irish quilters. It's my

understanding that a number of the early chintz broderie perse quilts were

quilted this way.

Ricki in PA

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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 23:26:57 -0500

From: mgoodmanalbany.net (Mary Beth Goodman)

To: QuiltAliveaol.com

Cc: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Snowflake Quilt Kit

Message-Id: <v02130501af1b177c1107[206.72.193.205]>

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Thank you so much Merikay!

I received the photocopies of the patterns from you and that is definitely

the quilt! Right down to the dogtooth border.

Isn't it intriguing that they brought back the same pattern with same

sample photo some 25+ years later?

I found it fascinating that the quilt was offered as a kit in four colors

(including the grey which the one I'd seen was done in). That grey color

seemed to be the one of choice since it was the color mentioned in the

directions in later years. At least in one place they gave the idea of

putting it on different background colors.

I will pass along the information to the quilt owners and I'm sure they

will be thrilled

Thanks again

mary Beth Goodman

NYQuilts!

http://www.albany.net/~mgoodman/NYQuilts.htm

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:21:47 -0600 (CST)

From: Phil & Lee Spanner <philspanwin.bright.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #27

Message-Id: <199702031321.HAA09791bucky.win.bright.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Subject: Re: Web Pages

>

>I have a question for all you webmasters out there. I get complaints from

>time to time that my web page takes a long time to upload. I have tried

>putting fewer pictures on the page. I've tried deleting the pictures

>altogether and just putting smaller pictures on the page. Is there some

>trick I am missing, or is the slow upload time a result of my server?

>

>Kris

I had this problem with a lot of my pages too. I started checking the size

file of everthing I was using. I found that some of the animation had large

files and I deleted them. I also found that many of the backgrounds I was

using had files even larger than some of the animation I was using. I used

some smaller back grounds and found it helped a great deal.

Hope this helps.

Lee :^)

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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 97 19:45:44 GMT

From: osborneiinet.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Barbara Brackman

Message-ID: <M.020397.114544.20SMDKSBCR>

Hi all, Our guild has Barbara Brackman coming to lecture On Feb. 13th on

Turkey Red and it's

uses in quilts and Then Thursday and Friday (we filled both days , she is

doing a workshop on

Civil War quilts. She's probably doing a California tour right now. We are

all excited as we

were told this might be the last year she is going to travel with her

lectures. It should be an

exciting for us.

--

Karen Osborne Quiltabeast in Murrieta, CA

osborneiinet.com

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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 21:39:17 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL:QHL Restoration

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Dear All,

I unwillingly acquired a quilt, that looks as if two dogs have fought

over it in a tug-o-war!!. My DH suggested I throw it out!! Sacre bleu!!

As I am a quilt sentimentalist , I would like to save it as it has some

prtty prints---mainly 30's & 20's.

Its been hand quilted & its a Double Axe quilt. It also was filthy &

stunk--after many washes in Orvus it looks happier.

Clever Quilt Restorers out there , please advise--should or rather can I

safely remove the backing and batting and put on clean ones?. I am

concerned about the quilting, i.e should I unpick it and then re

quilt--will it leave holes etc. I really want to try my hand at restoring

this quilt as I have never done this before & feel this will be a good

practise piece.

Thank you for all the lovely sharing on QHL--in the midst of chaos I

sneak away to have a peep & recharge my batteries.

Bye for now-Hiranya , Sydney Australia

Quilting Treasures of Old

(02) 9630-5839

e-mail nomad1ibm.net

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:25:38 -0500 (EST)

From: Gail Wagner <dpw13mindspring.com> (by way of Quilting Heritage

ListServ <qrsmail.albany.net>)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Unidentified subject!

Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970203232334.5ff7ac3cmail.albany.net>

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Well, after Day One of the big book sale, I am POOPED!! It was a madhouse.

I did not get any of the titles that were e-mailed to me. I did get some

goodies though. Some of these I was able to get more than one copy so

e-mail me if anyone is interested in anything. The Sunbonnet Family of

Quilt Patterns, by Dolores A. Hinson, c. 1983. The Standard Book of Quilt

Making and Collecting by Marguerite Ickis, c. 1949. Quilting, Patchwork,

Applique, and Trapunto by Thelma R. Newman, c. 1974. One book that I bought

is especially interesting. I got it intending to resell it but may keep it:

American Quilts, A Sampler of Quilts and Their Stories by Jennifer Regan, c.

1989. The first quilt discussed is the Graveyard Quilt by Eliabeth

Roseberry Mitchell, c. 1839, which I read about recently somewhere. This is

really a very curious quilt. I'll be back at the sale tomorrow still hoping

to find those Montgomery, Pettit, or Peto books.

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 23:13:48 PST

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>, QHLcue.com

Subject: RE: QHL: quilting patterns

Message-ID: <Chameleon.970203231443.cawley.epix.net>

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Ricki,

Can you give some more information about the "wave" quilting

pattern. TIA

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 2/3/97

Time: 11:13:49 PM

This message was sent by Chameleon

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:06:08 -0500 (EST)

From: CTislanderaol.com

To: qultfixdirectcon.net

cc: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Sarah's Quilting Party

Message-ID: <970203215507_74842470emout01.mail.aol.com>

Bev Jordan,

Thank you for posting the information about Sarah's Quilting Party on March

22 and 23 in Coloma State Park.

I called Carol Verbeeck and had a nice long chat with her. The event sounds

like such fun. I am anxiously awaiting my packet with the block pattern and

other instructions. Carol was thrilled that the information was put out on

the internet. She asked if the pattern could be put on somehow. I said I'd

check around and see if it is possible. Do you know how this could be done?

I could draw it up in Quilt-Pro and send a file, but only people with Q-P

could get it.

I plan to make the block and am now trying to think of some wonderful,

appropriate verse to write on it. I suppose the block should be hand sewn

since the sewing machine was not in common use until the 1870s or so. Also,

I think I will be able to go to the quilting bee and I am also thinking about

what I can find to wear. I love sewing for quilting, but the thought of

making a dress after all these years is daunting. I hardly even sew on

buttons these days. I won't hand sew an outfit!

Are you planning to go? You must be somewhere in Northern California. I live

in Bethel Island in the Delta -- east of Antioch, west of Sacramento.

Christine Thresh

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:21:30 -0500 (EST)

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: 

Here is the SIMPLY QUILTS schedule for February, as per their program guide.

The show airs on HGTV from 9:30 to 10:00 am and 2:30 to 3:00 pm, EST, on

Tuesdays and Thursdays. The Tuesday show is also repeated on Saturday from

1:00- 1:30 pm. The Thursday show is repeated on Sunday from 4:30 - 5:00 pm.

Feb. 4 Antique Quilts

Feb. 6 Quilt Decor

Feb. 11 Movie Quilt

Feb. 13 Basket Block

Feb. 18 Feathered Stars

Feb. 20 Computerized Quilts

Feb. 25 Photo Transfers

Feb. 27 Designing Fabric

Happy Viewing!! Karan from Iowa, where the blizzard has started!

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:49:52 +0800

From: balfourkechidna.id.au (Kath Balfour)

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: New batting & backing

Message-Id: <v01540b03af1cd09c6698[203.59.0.5]>

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Hiranya has the same problem we do! We bought a lovely old quilt that was

beautifully pieced & quilted. Unfortunately, it must have been used as a

pad between the mattress and iron bedsprings out in humid Deep East

Texas--the back is eaten through in spirals of rust and the batting is

shredding through the holes. The top looks okay. We're not sure whether to

unpick it and try saving the top, or to baste a cover of lightweight muslin

over the back and try washing and drying it. The quilt is quite heavy. Any

ideas? Anyone have any success rescuing such an orphan?

--

Kath Balfour

37 Gibson St

Hilton WA 6163

AUSTRALIA

e-mail: balfourkechidna.id.au

fax: +619-336-4230

voice: +619-335-6401

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:20:06 -0800

From: Lynn & Debbie CUPP <lcupperols.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Quilting teenager

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Well, I must admit that the worst I've heard from Karlene who is a mature

13 is "I know" when I remind her to do something. I'm sure it could get

a lot worse but for right now I am enjoying her efforts at sewing. She

likes doing machine embroidery embellishments to the pinwoven vests. She

made me some crazy quilt pillows that are really neat. Her sense of

color is great; something I struggle with. Last year we had the raffle

quilt at our home to work on, a blue/white pineapple with lots of

quilting in the ditch. She asked to help and I showed her a few basics

and she pulled up a chair and joined me. She was very conscientious

(sp?) and even stopped to rip some out occasionally. When I asked

why--she replied "They were too big and crooked". Wow! I never had

noticed. I thought they looked very good.

Last night I took an appliqued heart over a 4 patch to our monthly block

drawing. She was sorry to see it go and really inspected the block

closely. "Can you show me how to applique?" What is it they say--strike

while the iron is hot?

Debbie Cupp

Virginia Beach

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:27:01 -0800

From: Lynn & Debbie CUPP <lcupperols.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Apology

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I am so sorry I sent that quilting teenager message to this list. I

meant to send it to QuiltBee. Not enough caffeine yet this morning.

Sorry folks!

Debbie

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:51:02 +0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettfast.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Quaker Quilts Show in PA

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Yesterday I went to a show at the Brandywine River Museum in Chadds Ford, PA,

which is in western Delaware County outside Philadelphia. It is titled "Of the

best Sort but Plain: Quaker Quilts from the Delaware Valley 1760-1890."

The 21 quilts in the exhibit were wonderful. Three whole cloth silk quilts,

two doll quilts - one silk, one cotton, a silk crib quilt, a cotton sunburst,

two cotton Lone Stars with applique chintz and pieced stars in the outer

setting areas, a silk bars quilt, a silk courthouse steps, and numerous pieced

and appliqued friendship or sampler quilts, several being red and green.

The provenance of the quilts was complete - many are still in the Quaker

families of the makers. Those on loan from collections had histories with

them. These histories were very interesting -

1. The starburst was made for a girl after her betrothal but before the wedding

her church split and since the boys family went with the more "liberal" half,

she was not allowed to marry him, and died a spinster.

2. One of the whole cloth quilts had the silk wedding petticoat as kind of a

central panel with matching silk around it to make it bed size.

3. A large number of the quilts have signatures and dates and the stories are

there about weddings and other presentations.

Except for the silk quilts, which is not to my knowledge a usual choice of

fabric, these quilts do not shout "I am Quaker" the way Amish and Pennsylvania

Dutch quilts do by their styles, fabrics and colors. Many of these quilts -

style, fabric, etc - could have been made by any woman of means living in the

thriving Philadelphia area at the time. The Quakers were prominent merchants

and businessmen in a prosperous shipping area and these quilts reflect that

standard of life.

These quilts were "best" quilts and saved through the years. The stitching is

incredible - especially the quilting. Such tiny stitches - like 20 to the

inch. The applique stitches are fine and nearly invisible. The piecing is

precise. The quantity of inked signatures and sayings is large and very

interesting.

The curator seems to feel that the Quakers were plain people and we should be

shocked by the beauty of these quilts. In conversations with many people in

the area, including one person from England where the Quakers originally came

from, the general feeling is that the words elegant and refined more aptly

describe them. They were not flashy, but nobody except the curator felt plain

described the Quakers. I would describe these quilts as elegant - the best of

the types being made at this time by any group of people.

I highly recommend a visit if you are able. There is a catalogue available -

mostly black and white pictures but some color. I haven't read it yet but got

it for the pictures. Brandywine River Museum is on Route 1 in Chadds Ford, PA,

and is very easy to find. Admission $5, parking free. Hours 9:30 to 5 daily.

If anyone would like detailed directions, please e-mail me. The show ends

March 16. Also, if anyone is interested, I might be able to send copies of the

catalogue. E-mail me privately if you want to discuss this.

Now, a personal request. Many local museums and historical societies mount

beautiful quilt shows, but do not have the financial means to advertize in

large areas. Since they do many different types of shows, they don't know to

announce the show in quilting magazines, etc., so if you learn of a show,

please post information to the list. Sometimes a show could be as close as an

hour and half to where we live, but it is never mentioned in the local paper.

Thank you.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:28:56 -0500 (EST)

From: AJSNGSaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: New batting & backing

Message-ID: <970204081923_-1576608368emout11.mail.aol.com>

Hi All,

I too have a quilt that the batting is coming out of (binding on two ends is

falling apart) and I've wondered what I should do to save this. The top is

still quite pretty despite obvious wear. Should a new backing be put on

right over the other one? Or should new batting be put in where it has

fallen out, then a new backing?

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Nancy in VA

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:34:40 -0500 (EST)

From: DReyno3650aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: New batting & backing

Message-ID: <970204115753_-1844878481emout09.mail.aol.com>

Hello Everyone:

I too have a quilt I salvaged from a rummage sale we were conducting.

The other ladies hid this satin and velvet crazy quilt in a box in the

kitchen. "Throw away that old thing" was the advice they had. But I

couldn't, and finally donated $20 to keep it. Only one of the pieces has

disintegrated, but it is consistent and is scattered all over. Can't tell

what kind of fabric it was, but now it is brownish with a yellow cast,

leading me to think it might have been one of those greens. It looks to me

like the woof has disintegrated completely--gone, leaving no trace--while the

weft is cotton, the brown color, and still there, but disattached at one end.

The thing that makes the quilt special are the silk embellishments add:

one, from the Rose Fair they held locally from about 1890, the other from an

early swim club The Dolphins, who I believe swam in the Pacific Ocean before

the Boardwalk was built in 1905. (Brrr). The satin and velvet pieces are

basted (threads still in place exposed by the rotting pieces) over a heavy

dark brown herringbone twill, which also is splitting lengthwise from age.

It had a batting and back at some time, but the batting is cut away, and the

back was a hot pink silk that is still around the edges.

I have the embroidery skills to redo this quilt, and would like to

restore it (the top only, and bind it hopefully with the red silk still in

place) and donate it to the local history museum. I don't think they would

take it in the current condition, and I don't have the history of it, except

it is local. I would like an opinion of the group on whether this should be

done, or whether I should make it into a wall hanging by cutting squares out

of the good parts and stitching them into a wall hanging. This is like

desecration to even think of doing, but something must be done.

What does the group think?

Willa Dean Reynolds

Soquel, Santa Cruz County, California

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:51:35 -0500 (EST)

From: QuiltAliveaol.com

To:

Has anyone seen an embroidered Friendship quilt that might have some

reference to "My Radio Friend"? WLS radio broadcast from Chicago. On one

program in the early 1930s the announcer encouraged listeners to send in (or

trade) cloth blocks with other radio listeners. I've seen one completed

quilt top owned by a friend in Indiana. The blocks were obviously different

sizes when the maker received them. Each block has an embroidered name, date

or place. A couple blocks refer to "My Radio Friend." -- Merikay Waldvogel

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:09:36 -0500 (EST)

From: SadieRoseaol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Apology

Message-ID: <970204130507_-1543378643emout13.mail.aol.com>

Debbie,

No apologies necessary.... I am always pleased to hear about "future

quilters" ...we have to keep this "quilting revival" going!! Gee, how fun,

you can get her some of her own supplies for birthday, Christmas, etc. I got

my Mom started quilting when she retired a year ago. We wrapped all her

presents in fabric....got her tools that she would need, a book &

subscription to Quilter's Newsletter, etc. Don't suppose you would want to

overdo that with a teenager, but a few 'quilty' gifts would probably be

appreciated!

I have gone to the "home ec" (only now they have some fancy title for it!)

class at my boys' high school, and taught quilting. The kids loved it!

For "practice" sewing on the machine, we had them make strip sets for Nine

Patch blocks. Then, they made the blocks into 30" square quilts, backed with

flannel, which our quilt guild makes to donate to the Preemie Intensive Care

nursery at a local hospital. The kids felt like their "practice sewing" made

something worthwhile....not just sewing along lines on a piece of paper with

an unthreaded needle, which was what the teacher had planned.

Living with teenagers is a challenge, my boys are 16 and almost 18. Most

of the time, they are wonderful....enjoy them while you can...it goes by too

fast!! My oldest is a Senior, so we are looking into college options

now....hard to think that in 6 months he may be living 2 hours away. :(

But, I know he needs to get away from home and start his own life, too.

Sure makes you appreciate your parents, and what they did (and didn't do)

for you!!

We had 8-10" of snow overnight....no school....not too easy to get

around, even with my 4 wheel drive Jeep!! So, I am going to get busy

stitching!! Happy Quilting to BOTH of you!! Karan

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:49:57 -0500 (EST)

From: HKnight453aol.com

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: Apology

Message-ID: <970204174203_1146016431emout01.mail.aol.com>

This is for Diane- A good souce for black bastise is hancock's fabrics.

Their new site is fabric1.com. They can also be called at 1-800-845-8723.

Their prices are excellent.

Heather from cold RI

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 18:58:31 -0500

From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Re: restoring a badly damaged quilt

Message-ID: <32F7CD27.4F1Aici.net>

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Re: Hiranya , Sydney Australia and her questions about restoring an old

quilt.

Your quilt sounds delightful, could we have a more detailed description?

Colors? Pattern?

I an also in the process of trying to save what I can from an antique

quilt. Mine was made about 1880 and was found in a barn, the happy home

for a family of mice. It is a basket quilt and had a really wide and

ugly green border. I carefully removed the border to discover more

pieced squares under it! The baskets, mostly brown and red prints on

shirting, are just triangles with machine appliqued half circle handles.

The sashing was a black prints, faded to charcoal or less. It was also

filthy and some of the fabric is fragile.

I had the incredible priviledge of working with Richard Cleveland on a

Massachusetts Quilt Documentation day and I asked his advise. [He is the

founder of the Vermont Quilt Festival and wrote the book on the Vermont

documentation. He is helping neighboring states to begin documentation.]

He said that the quilt was in such bad shape that anything I did would

be an improvement. That gave me the courage to remove the ties [not

quilted] and the backing and batting, fortunately outside in summer. It

was then that I realized how dirty and smelly it really was. I was going

to try to save the batting, but now I think I will preserve a very small

sealed plastic bag of it and toss the rest. I have decided to take apart

the squares, baste them to cotton batiste as a backing, and wash them.

Ivory clear liquid soap was recommended to me. Cheer liquid has been

given the cotton industy offical seal of approval because it does not

alter the color of the fabric.

I have taken pictures of the quilt, as I found it, with the ugly green

border removed, and I will reconfigure best of the pieces left into a

quilt that can be displayed with care. The rest I will try to recycle

into paper pieced projects that use tiny bits of fabric.

I felt very encouraged by the people I talked to about the

reconstruction project. This is not a special or artistic quilt, but

someone cared about it, and I would like to keep the best parts of it

alive for others to enjoy.

I don't know what I would do if it were quilted except to pick out the

stitches and not worry about any little holes left. It is supposed to

look old and restored. It is loved and admired, that is the main goal.

One important rule I have been told from many sources: USE ONLY THE

ORIGINAL FABRICS. even if you have to make the quilt smaller. If you

start using reproductions or worse, you lessen the value, and probably

the aesthetics of the quilt.

I would love to hear from others who have saved "rag" quilts.

Hope I have given you some ideas,

Diane, in still cold, but not too snowy Massachusetts

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:56:07 -0500

From: Diane McGuire <dianemcgici.net>

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: saving a local quilt

Message-ID: <32F7DAA7.3CF6ici.net>

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Willa Dean Reynolds asked our opinion about restoring a badly damaged

quilt. I applaud your efforts! My opinion is that you should take the

best parts and restore them to mark the design and significance of the

quilt, and then make your own personal contribution to quilt history.

Every part of history wears away. Save the best so that we can remember

and learn. We do not have to reproduce the past exactly. Record what you

know or surmise about the quilt, attach a label with that information,

and recycle what you can of the rest for a personal momento.

Good luck with your project.

Diane, who wishes we could see all of these projects.

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:12:30 -0500 (EST)

From: Karen108delphi.com

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When it comes to the old quilts with the mangled backing and batting, I'd

definitely remove the back and batt and start over. Iron will corrode the

fabric. Test launder the top and if it can stand it, *gently* wash it in cool

water (by hand, mildest soap available) and dry it on the lawn. This will get

any traces of iron out of the top. I'd requilt it with a cotton batt and a

cotton thread; poly core threads can eventually cut through old cloth.

Good luck!

Karen Evans

Springfield, MA

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:40:36 -0500 (EST)

From: Karen108delphi.com

Willa - I'd restore the quilt and give it to the museum. It sounds much too

interesting to cut up!

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:15:51 -0500 (EST)

From: BFquilteraol.com

To: Q

Dear Debbie,

I read with interest your story about your 13 year old who likes to quilt.

Lucky you that you can share a hobby with your teen & spend time with her.

I'm a retired Home Ec. teacher & enjoy sewing, quilting, baking, embroidery,

etc. I always dreamed of my daughter, now 15, sharing my interests and being

able to teach her some of my hobbies. As you probably guessed, she's not the

least bit interested. Sad me!. But guess what ? My 7 year old son loves to

bake & sew with me. He is currently taking a sewing class for little kids &

loves it. But he has been pressing quilt blocks for me for 2 years, after I

had shoulder surgery & had difficulty lifting the iron. I save all my scraps

for him & he loves making doll size crazy quilts. At last I have a prodigy &

we have fun spending time together. So don't despair the rest of you with

non-interested teens, perhaps your sons will fulfill your dreams!

Barb in very cold & snowy Minnesota (about 69 inches so far this year)

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:25:43 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

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Hi Diane & All,

My dog quilt as I call it is a double axe quilt which has many florals

in blue,green,pink,red,purple etc.etc.Also solids,stripes,polka dots etc

A real scrap quilt.

One of the most interesting prints is a double chinned lamb with a

garland around the neck gamboling amongst flowers. Its very 1930's as you

must have gathered & Diane , its a rag quilt as you say. I think its a

good idea using the original fabric,thanks for the tip--it all helps! The

prints really appeal to me, so I will keep it as a " mad" quilt to try my

hand restoring it.

Hi to Kath too---your quilt sounds very interesting , hope you guys

manage to save it. Let us know how it goes o.k.

Also Barb in snowy Minnesota , do not despair re your daughter's lack of

interest re your gifts. I failed Home Economics,sewing etc. Could not

even get into the skirt I made due to something I did to the seams blah!

blah! I felt any idiot who could read can cook using a cookery book etc

when required. So, basically I was a nightmare to my poor Home Econ.

mistress & my mother who is a great cook etc. This all changed however

when I had my own children. I started to learn sewing 30----better

late than never I think--the main thing is I was interested in learning

now, not then. My dear Mother is still recovering from shock!

Great your son is already into it--maybe you could make a quilt FOR your

daughter of a few of HER favourite things---then watch her!!!

Pat that lovely snow for me!

Hiranya-Sydney Australia

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Date: 05 Feb 97 11:04:39 EST

From: "Patricia L. Lyons" <72134.3643CompuServe.COM>

To: Quilt Heritage List <qhlcue.com>

Subject: QHL: A book and a question

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Gail Wagner mentioned Elizabeth Roseberry Mitchell's graveyard quilt. I am in

the midst of reading a book by Linda Otto Lipsett called Elizabeth Roseberry

Mitchell's Graveyard Quilt: an American pioneer saga. Published by Halstead &

Meadows Publishing of Dayton, OH, in 1995. Price is $18.95 and ISBN is

0-9629399-2-7. It is well researched (14 pp. of footnotes, and 16 pp. of

Sources), and still a FASCINATING read. Turns out there was a practice

graveyard quilt top before the quilt that we know today. Definitely a title to

add to your TBR (to be read) list, if not to a Buy List!

And now a query to the wisdom of the group. Over New Year's we visited

Jefferson's Monticello. In the archeology exhibit in the basement ("downstairs"

as the docents called it - but definitely a basement!) there is a reproduction

of a painting by the German artist John Lewis Krimnel (don't you suspect the

name has been anglicized?) called "The Quilting Frolic" and dated 1813. It

depicts a finished quilt being cut out of the quilting frame while preparations

are obviously being made for a celebration. Nothing else in the exhibit had to

do with quilting. The placard described the painting as illustrative of the

types of entertainment that would have been held at Monticello during

Jefferson's time. It did NOT say that the artist had depicted an event at

Monticello.

Now my question: the quilt pattern depicted in the pattern was Garden Maze, a

pattern that I think of as dating from later in the 19th Century (but that's why

I call myself a student of quilt history, and not a quilt historian or

researcher!). Does anyone know of this painting or painter? What about the

history of the Garden Maze pattern? It struck me that the painter depicted not

only what was being quilted (if he was depicting an actual event), but also a

pattern that must have been somewhat familiar to his eyes, and one that made a

particularly attractive (read visual) image.

And no, in early VERY COLD January, there were no docents around to ask!

All ruminations, speculations, and even answers welcome!

Pat Lyons in blah (but not snowing or bitter cold!) South Bend Indiana

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:48:41 -0500 (EST)

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 13:30:12 -0500

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: 

Cinda asked about the wave quilting pattern. I heard about it from Hazel

Carter, who did some appraisal work on our museum's Quaker quilt last year.

When I did the antique quilt exhibit last summer, Hazel came. One of the

quilts on loan was an early 1800s chintz broderie perse - really a special

quilt - like the ones at the DAR. Hazel was quite impressed, & started

telling me about this wave quilting pattern. It wasn't until after she left

that I realized that this quilt apparantly has the wave quilting pattern.

(Duh! I never said I was smart!)

There is mention of it, & poor pictures, in the British Quilt book by Janet Roe.

It's basically just a zig zag of quilting lines, about 1/2 inch apart, over

the entire background of the quilt. But seems to be a pattern attributable

to Irish women.

On another subject, Quakers using silks, they did. Same museum has 2 Quaker

petticoats, beautifully quilted, in silk. Also a couple of bonnets with

quilted brims, and one quilt that we think came from the same family, all

silk. All this stuff came from a local Quaker family that donated a ton of

stuff. You'll never see better quilting. Unfortunately, we're not sure of

a time frame. Would love to see the Brandywine's exhibit as possible help

in dating others. Thanks for the info on that exhibit.

Ricki in PA - about 3/4 hours from Brandywine, but not out of reach

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 00:23:42 -0800

From: nomad1ibm.net

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Hi Diane & All,

My dog quilt as I call it is a double axe quilt which has many florals

in blue,green,pink,red,purple etc.etc.Also solids,stripes,polka dots etc

A real scrap quilt.

One of the most interesting prints is a double chinned lamb with a

garland around the neck gamboling amongst flowers. Its very 1930's as you

must have gathered & Diane , its a rag quilt as you say. I think its a

good idea using the original fabric,thanks for the tip--it all helps! The

prints really appeal to me, so I will keep it as a " mad" quilt to try my

hand restoring it.

Hi to Kath too---your quilt sounds very interesting , hope you guys

manage to save it. Let us know how it goes o.k.

Also Barb in snowy Minnesota , do not despair re your daughter's lack of

interest re your gifts. I failed Home Economics,sewing etc. Could not

even get into the skirt I made due to something I did to the seams blah!

blah! I felt any idiot who could read can cook using a cookery book etc

when required. So, basically I was a nightmare to my poor Home Econ.

mistress & my mother who is a great cook etc. This all changed however

when I had my own children. I started to learn sewing 30----better

late than never I think--the main thing is I was interested in learning

now, not then. My dear Mother is still recovering from shock!

Great your son is already into it--maybe you could make a quilt FOR your

daughter of a few of HER favourite things---then watch her!!!

Pat that lovely snow for me!

Hiranya-Sydney Australia