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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:16:06 -0400

From: "deb worster" <dworsterchi.tds.net>

has anyone seen instructions etc for table or mantel height feather trees

or dowel trees? I saw a picture of a different style tree in the debbie

mumm book re noah but alas no instructions.

>^..^< >^..^< >^..^< >^..^< >^..^< >^..^< >^..^< >^..^< >^..^<

deb in nh

dworsterchi.tds.net

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:47:06 0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettfast.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Amish quilts

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Hi Nancy and others-

You wrote -

> I'm curious. Do the Amish have different "rules" for making quilts that they

> plan to sell commercially? Do the color rules apply only to the quilts they

> will use themselves, or would these rules apply to all quilts that they make?

> I have an Amish quilt which I purchased in an Amish shop (somewhere on Rt.

> 340) in Lancaster County several years ago. It is done all in solid fabrics,

> but definitely uses white.

I am fortunate to have been able to visit numerous quilt shops in Lancaster

County and speak with some of the shop owners. This is what I have learned

about Amish quilting and quilters in this area --

1. Most quilting is done for sale to the tourists. So, fabrics and patterns

that will appeal to the customers are used. I have waited in line at Sauder's

Fabrics while Amish ladies have bought Mumms, Hoffmans and other

"nontraditional" fabrics. Most quilts in their shops are not what we think of

as "traditional" Amish quilts. Keep in mind that traditional means before

1940. They also do alot of "quickie" wall hangings using the buttonhole stitch

on sewing machines.

2. Spoke to one late 20s woman and asked about fabric choices. She said she

has printed pastel Dahlia design quilt on her bed. I asked if this varies from

District to District and she said yes, but very few are still using just solid

colors, and even they are not sticking to just the old dark colors. She said

her grandmother won't use white -- it gets dirty too fast. There were floral

sheets on the line and I asked about them, and she said the older women still

use solids but her mom and her friends use the flowered ones. In her district

there are no restrictions on prints in quilts in the home.

3. Spoke to a 50ish woman who only quilts with solid colors, even for sale.

This is a personal choice of hers. She said the Bishop said they could use

prints for sale, but she doesn't like using them, so restricts her specialty to

traditional colored solids, except made from poly cotton fabrics, not wools.

She kind of implied that her Bishop preferred they stick to the old ways and

use solids at home, but accepted the desire to use prints by some of the

younger women.

4. I volunteer at a Mennonite Thrift Store and one of the women there pieces

tops for an Amish lady. I have seen pictures of the tops she does, and there

are all colors, patterns, prints and solids. These tops are then quilted by

Amish ladies and will be for sale in the Amish lady's shop. This brings up the

point that everything you see in an Amish quilt shop is not necessarily made

entirely by an Amish person. I have just recently learned that the Hmong are

doing some of the applique as they can do it really fast because they are used

to do their really intricate ethnic pieces. From what I can gather, the Amish

do the quilting, but don't mind farming out the piecing and applique.

5. The most popular patterns in this area are floral appliques. These involve

a white or cream colored background and lots of printed applique pieces. On my

list of to ask questions after tourist season ends is whether they use these in

their homes.

6. In one shop the 18 year old daughter showed me a quilt exactly like the one

on her bed. It was what I call Drunkards Path but she called Ocean Waves and

was done in a blue print and solid cream.

7. I was fortunate to visit Holmes County, Ohio, and the Amish quilts for sale

there look exactly like the ones in Lancaster County -- lots of white, florals,

log cabins. I believe pretty much anything goes in tourist quilts.

8. I went to a lecture on Amish weddings and they had a quilt there that they

said was typical of the quilts given by both the bride's and the groom's

families to start the marriage. It was a burgandy and cream Dahlia quilt. I

asked if this truly would be used considering the print fabric and she said yes

-- they no long hold to just solids.

This is not a scholarly study, just what I have learned as I talked to some of

the Amish shop owners. There are other shop owners I haven't spoken to --

maybe someday.

The Nebraska Amish in Mifflin County are a much more isolated and conservative

group and still pretty much stick to their traditional quilting -- 4 patch and

9 patch in many colors including brown, which isn't found in Lancaster County.

One reason they can stay more conservative is that quiltmaking isn't part of

their livelihood as it is in Lancaster County. The Amish are good businessmen

and will make what sells.

Hope this helped.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 00:24:52 -0400 (EDT)

From: aol.com

To: qhlcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: For once, personal news

Message-ID: <970828002451_706409762emout08.mail.aol.com>

I still can't quite believe this...but twenty-two years after being

disqualified from an embroidery contest because "no fourteen year old could

possibly sew so well," I learned that one of my quilts took the blue ribbon

in the whole cloth quilt division at CraftAdventure, the screening

competition for the Eastern States Exposition (aka the Big E) in West

Springfield. It's the one I did in the 14th century style (backstitched

linen on linen - nine months of work, including the month I had to take off

because I sprained my right thumb sewing).

I entered it as an educational tool in the hopes that someone would look at

it, read the documentation, and want to know more about the oldest European

quilting styles. I never truly imagined I'd win a first prize...and after

all these years, words can't describe how sweet this is.

If anyone in the New England area plans to attend the Big E next month and

decides to check out the CraftAdventure winners, I'd love some feedback. I

won't be doing much serious needlework until sometime in January (graduate

school starts in less than two weeks and I'll be much too busy), so any

comments now would be greatly appreciated for next summer when I'll have the

time to work on something. Thanks in advance -

[And now, back to our regularly scheduled quilt history on line seminar....]

Karen Evans

Springfield (soon to be Easthampton), Massachusetts

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 06:39:16 -0500

From: princessmdn.net

To: qhlcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: QHL-Did you write?

Message-ID: <9708280639.09CJT00mdn.net>

I am looking for the author who wrote about a "recent study...indicated that

fabric gives off certain pheromones...." This was a humorous look at how we are

just prey for the bolts of fabric...we're helpless once inside a fabric store.

If you were the original author, would you e-mail me privately (I want your

permission to reprint in a newsletter). THANK YOU!

Anne Sturtevant

princessmdn.net

Midland, Michigan

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 07:19:56 -0400 (EDT)

From: ROM1026aol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #225

Message-ID: <970828071955_1918605973emout04.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-08-28 06:11:49 EDT, you write:

> Merry May suggested that the final row on each

> side be "Quilters" "Heritage" "List" and "On-line", which I think is

I like Merrys idea. That would look great>

Have a good day all!

Pat in NJ

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:04:26 -0400 (EDT)

From: Palamporeaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: That black center again

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The statement that red dye was not available during the Civil War is totally

incorrect. There were many types of red dye available, with madder being the

most common. Think of the number of flags that are around! They all have

red dye in them, Union and Confederate, which translates into North and

South. There are also scores of uniforms of the "Zouave" type which were

bold shades of red for most of the jackets and caps, not to mention dozens of

other items!

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:04:01 -0400

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrowblast.net>

To: "Quilt History List" <QHLcuenet.com>,

"QuiltArt Digest" <quillt-digestlists.his.com>,

"QuiltBee" <quiltbeequilter.com>

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I am so pleased with myself, and at the same time, so dismayed that it took

me so long to figure this out. Last month we had a vendor at the guild

meeting. All her fabrics, fat quarters to yard pieces were folded, and

folded and folded again into neat little packages that stood upright in the

flat boxes she carried them in. They were all secured by little adhesive

tabs that held the price. No matter how many people dug through those

boxes and pulled fabrics out, they always looked neat. And of course you

could see every thing she had. I had been looking at this method of

displaying fabric at shows for years and years, but never thought of it for

my own storage.

I flew home and looked at my storage. Folded as it came from the store, it

was stacked in large Rubbermaid bins, or stacked in bureau drawers. I

couldn't see what I had, and every time I went searching, everything I

touched got messed up. So, along with everything else, I now have another

project going. To refold all my fabrics into neat little packages so they

can be stored upright, not stacked.

I devised a system using my rotary rulers -- 3", 4", 5", and 6". I

prefold the fabrics in the length so they are either 4 layers or 8 layers

thick; selvedge to selvedge (2 layers), fold to selvedge (now 4 layers),

double fold to selvedge (now 8 layers). I buy very few fat quarters so

I'll deal with them at another time. I usually buy 1/4 yard, 1/2 yard or

bigger pieces. The quarter yards are folded in the length to 8 layers and

are then rolled around the 3" ruler, making a mini-bolt, and then pinned.

The 1/2 yards are folded the same way and are rolled around the 4" ruler.

One yard pieces are 4 layers thick and are rolled around the 5" ruler.

Pieces over a yard are also folded a second time in the length and then are

rolled around the 6" ruler. It is amazing how small you can roll a 5 yard

lenth of fabric. And by looking at the width of the packages I can tell

whether they are 45" or 54" wide fabric - like the wonderful plaids I am

now collecting.

Now I am putting these little packages of fabric in bureau drawers and the

shorter Rubbermaid containers, shoe box height, but much wider and longer.

The beauty of this method is that by looking at the package I know just how

much fabric it contains. And I am getting to know my stash again. I have

found stuff I forgot I ever had. And the smaller containers are much

easier to handle. This is so exciting!

Now when I open a drawer or a container, I can see everthing, not just the

piece on top.

I'll use those large Rubbermaid tubs for sweater and out of season clothing

storage, as they were intended to be used.

Have I just put a bug into someone else's head? I hope so.

Judy in NJ

judygrowblast.net

Judy in NJ

judygrowblast.net

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 12:36:17 -0500 (EST)

From: Diane Krall <dkrall.inmuincolsa.palni.edu>

To: The Garretts <bgarrettfast.net>

Cc: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: Amish quilts

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Two good books about Amish quilts are:

Krabill, ? A QUIET SPIRIT. (UCLA Fowler Museum, 1996). This is an

exhibition catalog of a private collection of Amish quilts. Both the

photos and text are very good.

Grannick, E.W. THE AMISH QUILT. Can't remember the publisher information,

but this is a well-researched book, documenting styles, sources of

materials, communities, customs, and some interviews with Amish women

(some who liked to sew and some who didn't).

Enjoy,

Diane in Indy

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:13:46 -0500 (EST)

From: Diane Krall <dkrall.inmuincolsa.palni.edu>

Nancy, I hope this will answer your question

"The material was formed by beating the inner bark of the mulberry tree

until the individual fibers meshed into a felted sheet, from which various

garments and furnishing fabrics were made.... The inner bark from a paper

mulberry tree was pulled away, beaten, washed and rinsed. It was then

fermented for ten to twelve days before the final beating, which was done

on a beating plank with a beater. ... After the bark cloth was prepared,

it was decorate using a brush made of the softened tip of a bamboo

stick.Paints were made of tree bark, roots and flowers..."

This information is from FABRICS IN CELEBRATION FROM THE COLLECTION, by

Peggy S. Gilfoy (Indianapolis Museum of Art, 1983}

Diane Krall

Indy

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:25:29 -0400 (EDT)

From: JOCELYNMdelphi.com

On 28-AUG-1997 08:06:23.6 Palampore said to JOCELYNM

> The statement that red dye was not available during the Civil War is

>totally incorrect. There were many types of red dye available, with

>madder being the most common. Think of the number of flags that are

Could there have been a shortage of red dye for CIVILIAN use, though?

I'm thinking about WWII. My mother was a home-ec teacher at the then-O A&M

(now Oklahoma State) and my dad was a Navy chief cook and baker on a troop

transport. Mom was furious when he came home with his cookbooks, and she

saw his recipes (chocolate cake for 8,000, among others) that were using all

sorts of ingredients she'd been teaching the girls to do without, especially

when he naively replied that of COURSE he used the recipes all the time....

He didn't have a clue that the reason he had enough chocolate to bake cake

every week, was because the civilians hadn't seen it for YEARS.

Jocelyn

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:25:12 -0400 (EDT)

From: JOCELYNMdelphi.com

To: erroofwcoil.com, QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Instant Expert

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On 27-AUG-1997 20:11:55.6 erroof said to JOCELYNM

> Slightly used book for sale, good passages hi-lighted, a must read (to

> believe).

Sue,

Can we set up a round-robin? I don't exactly want to OWN this book, but

I bet there are a lot of us who would be willing to pay the cost of postage

to READ it. <G>

And maybe send a $1 back to you for the privelege, so you recoup your

costs on this thing? <G>

Jocelyn

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:25:22 -0400 (EDT)

On 27-AUG-1997 23:50:03.3 bgarrett said to JOCELYNM

> 6. In one shop the 18 year old daughter showed me a quilt exactly

>like the one on her bed. It was what I call Drunkards Path but she

>called Ocean Waves and was done in a blue print and solid cream.

Barb,

Sorta makes sense that an Amish young woman wouldn't be sleeping under

a Drunkard's Path! <G>

>part of their livelihood as it is in Lancaster County. The Amish are

>good businessmen and will make what sells.

Absolutely. I'm from Dunkard country (German Baptist). They are Plain

People, but not as plain as the Amish. They support using anything that give

them a competitive edge in business, but not for pleasure. For example, they

will listen to the radio to get farm markets and weather reports, but TV

watching for entertainment has traditionally been banned. If you want

beautiful cabinetry in your home, hire a Dunkard construction crew, and

they'll show up with power tools. A prosperous Dunkard farmer drives an

air-conditioned tractor, because it allows him to work longer with less

ill-effect on his health. I've never been in a Dunkard home, but I believe

that the women are allowed to have the labor-saving devices that the rest of

us use. I can tell the women are happy about the resurgence of popularity in

quilting, because as a child I remember them dressed in dark plaids, and now

they wear the beautiful calicos being printed for quilts..... I guess it's a

fun way for them to be traditionally dressed but not have to wear the same

old menswear plaid all the time. <G>

Thanks for this wonderful bit of documentation about Amish quilting!

Jocelyn

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 09:44:51 -0500 (CDT)

From: Phil & Lee Spanner <philspanbucky.win.bright.net>

Dear Quilters,

I want to take a moment to thank everyone who has sent inoformation

regarding my questions. I have found the Amish information so fascinating. I

am on my way to the book stores and libraries to check out some of the books

that have been referred to.

Then I am going to start my first (traditional) Amish quilt. I don't think

any quilt collection would be complete without one.

Also, thanks to Cherry and Lorraine for the information regarding Australian

quilting, and to Laura for the information about quilts of Hawaii.

This is truly a list of wonderful people. Thanks again for all your help.

Sincerely,

Lee :^)

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:48:27 -0500

From: bgroelzhamilton.net (Brenda Groelz)

In yesterday's QHL Digest, Barb wrote:

"The Nebraska Amish in Mifflin County are a much more isolated and

conservative

group and still pretty much stick to their traditional quilting -- 4 patch

and

9 patch in many colors including brown, which isn't found in Lancaster

County.

One reason they can stay more conservative is that quiltmaking isn't part

of

their livelihood as it is in Lancaster County. The Amish are good

businessmen

and will make what sells."

I've lived in Nebraska all my life, and have never heard of the "Nebraska

Amish". I do remember some Amish families moving to south-east Nebraska in

the mid-1970's, but I thought they were unhappy and left. If Barb or

anyone else could tell us more about Nebraska Amish, I'm sure there are

many of us who would be interested.

Brenda Groelz

Phillips, Nebraska

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:34:40 -0500 (CDT)

From: celmoreksu.edu

I'll have it with me at the Quilt Restoration Conference in Omaha,

Sept. 4-7, if any of you are going and want to look at it. It's very

small and doesn't take long to read.

Carol Elmore

Manhattan, KS

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 JOCELYNMdelphi.com wrote:

> On 27-AUG-1997 20:11:55.6 erroof said to JOCELYNM

> > Slightly used book for sale, good passages hi-lighted, a must read (to

> > believe).

> Sue,

> Can we set up a round-robin? I don't exactly want to OWN this book, but

> I bet there are a lot of us who would be willing to pay the cost of postage

> to READ it. <G>

> And maybe send a $1 back to you for the privelege, so you recoup your

> costs on this thing? <G>

> Jocelyn

>

>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:25:28 -0700

From: Mary <mphsnet.net> (by way of Quilting Heritage ListServ 

Dear Karen Evans,

Congratulations on the recognition of your fine needlework!!! Whoever

was responsible for your disqualification at age 14 was an utter fool as

we all know.

What about the many 14 year olds in years gone by who would have created

an entire dowry by then? We look back and admire the work of ages past

and lots of it must have been done by veritable children. How sweet

this award must be to you, sweeter because of the trespass it helps

undo.

I've never been to the Big E but will try as your work provides

incentive. Mary in stormy Hamden CT.

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:56:22 0000

From: "The Garretts" <bgarrettfast.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Nebraska Amish question

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To Brenda and others -

Sorry for the confusion. The Nebraska Amish live in Mifflin County,

Pennsylvania, and have nothing to do with the state of Nebraska. I am used to

speaking with local people who know about the conservative Amish in central PA,

and never thought to add the "PA" after Mifflin County in my last post.

There are many subdivisions of the Amish Church, of which the Nebraska Amish is

one. Others include the Beachy Amish (formerly the Peachey Amish), the Amish

Mennonite, the Swartzentruber group of Holmes County, Ohio, the Renno group

also of Mifflin County, PA, Old Order Amish, and New Order Amish. Each group

has their individual set of rules concerning dress, buggies, cars, telephones,

Sunday School, etc. I don't know without looking it up where the Nebraska name

came from.

The Nebraska group are also called "white toppers" as their buggies have a white

top, not grey as in Lancaster County nor black as in the midwest. Their style

of dress is also different from what is found in Lancaster County. They are

considered to be a very conservative group. Brown is the predominant dark

color for men's suits, and appears alot in quilts.

I don't know of any Amish communities in the state of Nebraska, only in Ohio,

Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin and Montana. There could be other states as

well, they just aren't communities I've studied.

Again, I am sorry for the confusion and will try to be more clear after this.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrettfast.net>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:05:42 -0700

From: Pibban <dstoeckibm.net>

To: bgarrettfast.net

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:20:10 1000

To add details on the good books on Amish and their quilts suggested yesterday:

A QUIET SPIRIT is by Kraybill, Donald B. Other authors: Trish Herr and

Jonathan Holstein. Publushed 1996. Can be ordered from: UCLA- FOWLER

MUSEUM OF CULTURAL HISTORY, BOX 951549, LOS ANGELES, CA

90095-1549 ISBN 0-930741-53-6

THE AMISH QUILT by Eve Wheatcroft Granick, published1989 by Good Books,

Intercourse, PA 17534. ISBN 0-934672-72-1

Julie Silber

Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 22:16:42 -0400 (EDT)

From: Jean Ann Eitel <quiltmagmindspring.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: a special quilt

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this sunday i am going out to one of my parishioner's homes to help them

put a very special family quilt into my quilt frame to be quilted by the

mother and her two daughters.

the quilt was made by her great-grandmother in Nebraska about 1875. It has

big red and white diamonds, alternated. The diamonds are the same shape as

Lemoyne Star diamonds, but they are sewed together in straight rows making

a diamond checkerboard effect.

On the each of the red diamonds a large white five point star is appliqued.

on each of the white diamonds a different flower is appliqued. all of the

flowers have straight central stems with one diagonal straight stem going

out of each side with a smaller blossom, some represented unopened

blossoms. There are also some leaves appliqued.

This is a most unusual quilt, it was found about 15 years ago in a wooden

box behind an old wood stove in the maker's house after she died. The quilt

was given to my parishioner as part of her family share of her

grandmother's things.

When it is quilted i will photograph it. in fact, i am taking my camera out

on Sunday to get pictures of the mother and her two daughters putting it in

the frame. I will scan them and put them on the new patchwords message

board on the interent which can take pictures as well as text in the

messages. When I do this, i will send the address to everyone so you can

see it if you like.

it is really a most unusual and beautiful piece of folk art.

Jean Ann Eitel, Editor

QUILT Magazine, Harris Publications Inc, NY, NY

http://www.quiltmag.com

#quilttalk IRC Inter Relay channel and #quilttalk WWW activities

http://www.quilttalk.com

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 20:05:54 -0700

From: Ellene Gravelle <gravelleridgecrest.ca.us>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Espirit Amish Collection

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Hi: Does anyone know a source for the book on the Espirit Amish

Collection which toured the country recently. I understand it was a

wonderful exhibit. An Australian friend of a friend is looking for 5

copies. Ellene

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 22:47:16 -0400 (EDT)

From: JOCELYNMdelphi.com

On 29-AUG-1997 16:59:54.3 bgarrett said to JOCELYNM

> I don't know of any Amish communities in the state of Nebraska, only

>in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin and Montana. There could

>be other states as

> well, they just aren't communities I've studied.

Barb,

Jamesport, MO (NW MO) also has an Amish community.

I had an Amish friend from Western Kansas, but I never asked if there

was a 'community' there or not. Dunkards and Mennonites are more common.

Jocelyn

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 12:50:57 -0400

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrowblast.net>

To: "Quilt History List" <QHLcuenet.com>,

"QuiltArt Digest" <quillt-digestlists.his.com>,

"QuiltBee" <quiltbeequilter.com>,

"Alice Norman" <ANORMANpn.usbr.gov>

Subject: QHL: Re: Stash storage

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Dear Alice,

Rubber bands dry out and stick to the fabric. I've seen that happen.

Besides creasing them. I wouldn't even use those price stickers, because

they too can leave adhesive behind. Of course the vendors that use them

hope that the price stickers will be on them for very short periods of time

-- meaning sold quickly.

I am folding a little each day, and it is going to take me a long time to

get this stash reorganized, but in the meantime, I am finding stuff I

forgot I ever had, and I am handling fabric. What a wonderful feeling!

I have a question for you How and where do you store all your rotary

rulers? I am thinking of giving them one shallow dresser drawer all to

themselves, but then I'd have to go rummaging through the drawer for the

one I want. I am also thinking of getting a wastebasket type thing and

storing them in that, standing upright, out in the open. Can't make up my

mind.

I've got one of those big hanging thread spool racks, and that will be up

over the sewing machine, on the wall, if DH gets his butt in gear to help

me hang it. We have real plaster walls, so it takes real tools to get a

hanger securely in the wall. One of my guild buddies bought a mini-car

parking garage in the toy department for her thread. It has a handle and

separate spaces for each spool. She says she can get 100 spools of Mettler

in it, or 50 C&C spools. Sounds interesting, but I have not seen it.

The sewing machine sits on a second hand desk with lots of drawers. I've

got one of those plexi portable tabletops that fits around the Pfaff to

give me a nice big sewing platform. My rotary cutters are all in eyeglass

cases in the left hand drawer, thread rippers, snippers, and scissors in

the right hand drawer.

What I don't have is a large space in back of the machine and to the left

of the machine so I can machine quilt with comfort. Gotta figure that out

next.

Regards,

Judy in NJ

judygrowblast.net

> Message from: Alice Norman

> E-mail: anormanpn.usbr.gov

>

> Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy! Have you ever started something!

>

> After I read your post to QHL about how long it took you to realize what

> you were seeing, I also had a "duh" moment. Gee - we see these cute

> ways of displaying fabric for sale all the time. The FQs, etc. are folded

> so we customers can SEE them, then buy them.

>

> But, your way of folding according to yardage - well, that was brilliant.

> Your method is consistent and easy. And the fabric "mini-bolts" are

> instantly recognizable.

>

> A question. Instead of pinning each "mini-bolt," would a rubber band

> work? Umm .. maybe it would crease the fabric. I'll just have to

> experiment.

>

> Thanks for your great idea.

>

> Alice, enjoying the beginnings of fall in Boise, Idaho.

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 12:01:27 0000

From: "SuzyQ4U/MsuzyQ" <suzyhmkrgibbon.imaxx.net>

To: "Quilt History List" <QHLcuenet.com>

Subject: Re: QHL: Re: Stash storage

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I store my rulers and many other odds and ends on a 2 ft x 4 ft piece

of pegboard mounted on the wall in my sewing room. I get those

spindles just like in the hardware stores and it works great for all

kinds of things...hoops, patterns, packages of needles,

patterns...anything I can hang...looks neat plus I can see lots of my

goodies at a glance

Sue In Northern Illinois

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 15:26:42 -0400 (EDT)

From: AJSNGSaol.com

Hi all,

As a last day trip before the hustle and bustle of school starts, my husband,

kids and I went to Madison, Virginia today. Each Labor Day week-end they

have a street festival called "Taste of the Mountains" and this year there

was also a quilt show put on by the local quilt guild. Our own QHLer

"Christina of the Blue Ridge" was showing some of her quilts and I got to see

them!! She does very nice work! As I told Christina, there was a very nice

selection of different quilting styles represented and it was fun for me to

see some techniques that I haven't seen before. I especially liked some of

the 3-D effects on several of the quilts.

I don't know if the Madison County Quilt Guild plans on doing a show again

next year, but if they do, if you live anywhere in Virginia you might

consider attending. It was a fun way to spend the day!

Nancy in Fredericksburg, Virginia

ajsngsaol.com

P.S. One thing I should add. Originally the Keepsake Quilting challenge

winning quilts were to have been shown at this show, however, due to the

recent UPS strike, the quilts did not arrive in time. I guess the people at

UPS are having their own quilt show this week-end!

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 15:36:22 -0400

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:55:24 -0700

From: Sandra Wilcox <sgwilcoxworldnet.att.net>

About storing rotary rulers...if you don't use pegboard you might

consider hanging magazine/folder racks. I bought wire racks that snap

onto the sides of the olfa baskets that are my storage drawers and

they are wide enough to support my rulers and 15" square ruler just

laid in them. The rulers are within reach but out of the way. I've

seen other holders that are plastic and attach to the wall. A

variation on this might be the wire placemat holders The Container

Store carries. These hook onto the bottom of a closet shelf. They

have open sides, unlike the clip on drawers, so they also can support

long rulers easily.

Sandy Wilcox

To: QHL-Digestcue.com

Reply-To: QHLcuenet.com

Status: U

X-UIDL: 873080184.24564.apollo

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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 97 22:58:27 PDT

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

The Nebraska Amish don't live in Nebraska. The Nebraska Amish are a very

conservative Amish group who live in Mifflin Co. in Central PA (west of

Lewisburg) in an area called the Big Valley. They are also called the White

Top Amish because their buggies have white tops. Eve Wheatcroft Granick

presents some very interesting info about them on pp. 88-90 of her book The

Amish Quilt. She says that quiltmaking was never as important in this group

as it was in other Amish communities; that quiltmaking was governed by even

stricter guidelines than elsewhere. Only Four- and Nine-patch variations

were allowed. The palette was limited to browns, blues, dark purple, black,

dark green, yellow, ochre, tan and some dark red.

One of the most interesting aspects of Amish society is the number of

differences between the various Amish groups. John Hostetler doesn't write

much about quilts, but he can tell you just about everything about Amish

society. In fact start with Amish Society published by the Johns Hopkins

Univ. Press.

Cinda in Scranton

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 8/30/97

Time: 10:58:27 PM

This message was sent by Chameleon

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 09:02:25 -0500 (CDT)

From: celmoreksu.edu

To: QHLcue.com

Subject: QHL: Quilt screensaver

Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970831085515.21031B-100000abc.ksu.ksu.edu>

Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I just got a letter from my friend Barb Eikmeier about a new computer screen

saver she is selling. It contains 20 high-resolution images of

tradition American quilt designs from Barb's personal collection of

quilts. Barb is the author of the new book, Kids Can Quilt. The

screensaver is titled, Quilts!, and sells for 14.95 plus shipping and

handling and sales tax (if applicable). You can contact Barb at

eikmedbtoto.net if you are interested. I'll bring some of her ads to the

QRS Conference in Omaha.

Carol Elmore

Msanhattan, KS

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:03:14 -0400

From: Merry May <gridgeesalgorithms.com>

As an alternative to using rubber bands or sticky labels to bundle up your

fabric, how about "recycling" those long strips we cut when we "even up"

the ends of our yardage? They're odd widths, but at least they're cotton,

and won't hurt whatever they're "bundling!" If they're tied with a bow,

they're also easy to remove and replace.

Merry May (a.k.a. Inspector Cluesew and/or Jessica Four-Patch) :-)

Schoolhouse Enterprises

gridgeesalgorithms.com

http://quilt.com/GG

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 14:28:01 -0400 (EDT)

From: JOCELYNMdelphi.com

On 31-AUG-1997 00:23:05.6 cawley said to JOCELYNM

>pp. 88-90 of her book The Amish Quilt. She says that quiltmaking was

>never as important in this group as it was in other Amish communities;

>that quiltmaking was governed by even stricter guidelines than

>elsewhere. Only Four- and Nine-patch variations were allowed. The

Cinda,

Sounds like a definite cause-and-effect!

Jocelyn

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 15:12:23 -0600

From: "Kathy Gaul" <katquiltn-gate.com>

Hello out there! A good friend recommended I get onto this service because

I am a quilt restorer, and she has been seeing lots of messages regarding

the QRS conference next week. I am going to attend the conference and

fabric camp, and I am really excited! I am hoping to meet some new friends

out there in the quilting world - anyone attending the conference? This

will be my first time attending this conference - anyone have any

suggestions? Please be patient with me if I don't respond right away, I am

getting used to all this computer stuff!!! and I am trying to get ready to

leave!!! - Kat Quilt in Colorado

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:11:37 -0400 (EDT)

From: QuiltCat26aol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Re: QHL pin

Message-ID: <970831211136_-1969240967emout05.mail.aol.com>

Kris -

My vote is also for the log cabin with black center and QHL somewhere on the

pin.

Thanks! Let us know when to SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Nancee in Grand Rapids, MI

>^,,^<

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:48:10 -0400

From: dympnajuno.com (Bernadette D Snyder)

Can I be counted in for the pin?

Dympna

On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:13:25 -0400 debatqpsjuno.com writes:

>Kris,

>

>Count me in for a pin and I vote for the letters somewhere on it.

>

>Debbie at the Jersey Shore where it was COLD this morning!

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:25:14 -0600

From: "Kathy Gaul" <katquiltn-gate.com>

Wow, you guys out there are great! Thanks, Laura, Nancy, and Sharon for

your wonderful responses to my inquiry about QRS! I already feel that I

shall meet new friends in all of you! And yes, I shall look you all up! I

am arriving on Wednesday early evening, in time for the Work Day on

Thursday. I will look for that QHL sticker too!

To Nancy Evans - I have been restoring quilts for about 6 years now as an

independent "textile artist". My degree is in Home Economics, with my

emphasis in clothing and textiles - so I am a great big mix of clothing and

quilts! I love what I do! I grew up in New England and was drenched with

history, and historical textiles always intrigued me. I guess that's where

it all started, plus it has always been my goal to recreate my Grandmothers

early 1900's wedding dress! (I also restore vintage clothing and the later

Victorian and Edwardian eras are my favorites.) So there's a little bit

about me. Can't wait to meet all of you and learn more about you. Take

care till then. - Kat Quilt

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 97 22:38:28 PDT

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: cavemanfastlane.net, QHLcue.com

Hi Arlene and anybody else who's interested in Calico and Chintz. My

enthusiasm for that exquisite book is undimmed. You can order it from the

Renwick Gallery gift shop in Washington, D.C. I carried the phone # in my

wallet for months, but I must have thrown it away. The book is $24.95. ISBN

0-937311-34-0. If I were only going to buy one book this year (which, of

course, will never happen) this would be the one.

Cinda in Scrantn

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Name: John & Cinda Cawley

E-mail: cawleyepix.net

Date: 8/31/97

Time: 10:38:29 PM

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 97 22:49:49 PDT

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

To: bgarrettfast.net, QHLcue.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Nebraska Amish question

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John Hostetler on p. 282 of Amish Society writes, "the name Nebraska

Amish derives from an Amish settlement in the state of Nebraska and

specifically from its bishop Yost H. Yoder who assisted a small faction

among the Mifflin Co. Amish in ordaining its leaders. Later a few

families in Nebraska moved to Mifflin Co. to join them." This happened in

1881.

Cinda in Scranton

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 97 22:56:14 PDT

From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawleyepix.net>

I must share my annoyance at being ripped-off by the Rockefellers. Went to

tour Kykuit, the Rockefeller home near Tarrytown, NY. It cost $18, an

enormous amount for a house tour, but several people (whom I intend to acost

on the subject) raved about it to me. I was particularly interested in

seeing Nelson's sculpture collection which he installed in the garden. It

seems that very recently the gardens have become a separate tour for which

they charge another $18! What we got was the house only (with views as we

stood on the veranda--so we saw a Henry Moore and a Brancusi from a

distance) which really amounts to a rather ordinary "rich man's house." The

Chinese porcellans are pretty impressive, but otherwise except for a Gilbert

Stuart portrait of Washington and an unfinished portrait from life of

Lincoln most of the art in the house looks like what you get when you tell

the decorator to take care of it. I'm still steaming over being stupid

enough to spend that much money on so little. To comfort myself I went to

Boscobel where I not only saw a wonderful collection of Federal era

decorative arts (a wonderfully knowledgeable woman gave the three of us a

private tour), but they gave us lemonade and cookies afterwards.

Cinda in Scranton

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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:10:39 -0400 (EDT)

From: Quilt97aol.com

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For anyone with an interest in teaching quilting to children in the

classroom, or at home, I just came across the following book at the Barnes &

Noble bookstore site:

I have not seen or read the book, so am not recommending it as such - this is

strictly a "for your information only" - - also have no connection with

Barnes & Noble.

EKarenbeth

Quilting a Thematic Unit: Easy Cross-Curricular Projects & Activities for the

Classroom

Wendy Buchberg Pub. Price: $10.95 B&N Price: $8.76 You Save: $2.19

(20%)ISBN#: 0590965581

Publisher: Scholastic, Incorporated

Format: Paperback

Date Published: March 1997

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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 02:39:32 -0400

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrowblast.net>

Hi , old quilt enthusiasts! I went to my favorite antique show today, held

yearly, and scored big I think! I mostly rescue tops, rarely finished

quilts, and I came home with 2 tops, and 5 yards of old material. The

material is 36" wide, black, printed with bright red open diamonds spaced

about every inch, in striped rows. I don't know what I'll do with it --

yet.

One of the tops is blue striped or checked shirtings, on black-on-white

shirtings as background, in 12" basket pattern blocks, set with two

black-on-white shirtings as 4" wide sashing. The wonderful thing is that

the basket blocks are set every which way, with no rhyme or reason. Upside

down right side up, pointing left, or right, there is no pattern anywhere

in the way they are set. This is a big quilt, and because the backgrounds

are so light I am going to back it with white muslin, no batting, and

machine quilt it in diagonal lines, then use it as a summer spread. The

top itself is machine pieced. I paid $75.00 for it, and it is in beautiful

shape -- no stains, no rips or tears, and the fabric is not brittle or

stiff.

The second quilt top presents more of a problem. Obviously designed to be

set on point and never finished, it is a two color top, red applique on

muslin with the same red as sashing. The edges were jagged, as though

setting triangles were intended, but there were not enough of the applique

blocks to complete the setting, even if there were triangle blocks. So I

have removed the shorter rows and will make it into a square set quilt, 5

blocks by 6 blocks, with 2 blocks left over. Unfortunately I will be just

short of the red sashing to complete the four corners. I will try to

match the red with contemporary solid fabric, but failing that, I guess a

close match will do. The applique on this one is perfectly beautiful, and

the sashing is hand pieced. The fabrics are just a bit brittle, but will

stand careful handling. I paid $45.00 for this one.

I just love finding and finishing old tops, and hope someone will be as

enthusiastic about the unfinished quilts I leave behind!

Judy in NJ

judygrowblast.net

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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 09:24:05 0000

From: "SuzyQ4U/MsuzyQ" <suzyhmkrgibbon.imaxx.net>

To: qhlcuenet.com

My mom told me last week she had a partly done quilt someone had

given her to give to me because 'I do that sort of thing' Yesterday

we saw them and she says "oh yeah..let me get that old thing". Well

the old thing was a completed quilt top, 85 x 103, a courthouse steps

(that's a trip around the world that starts with a line of squares

not one square, I believe). It looks to have been made in the 40's,

but has some 30's prints in it. It was hand pieced and is in perfect

condition, it has apparently been store well since it was made. I'm

so thrilled to be finishing this top...now we're working on her to

remember who gave it to her! She thought she was giving me someones

garbage....I told her it's a treasure!

Just had to tell someone!

SuzyQuilt4u

Have a GREAT day!

suzyhmkrimaxx.net

:-)

http://www.quilttalk.com/chanops/quilt4u.html

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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 09:51:33 -0700

From: Frank & Inge Stocklin <stocklinerols.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Alaska

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Hi

I know there must be some people on this service from Alaska or who could

direct me to different shops, etc. I'll be in Fairbanks 9/11, Anchorage

9/15, followed by Seward, College Fjord, Skagway, Juneau and Ketchikan

ending up in Vancouver. Time will be tight but if there are any great

shops or museums, please e-mail me personally. Thanks, Inge

http://www.erols.com/stocklin/

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:34:39 -0400 (EDT)

From: Palamporeaol.com

To: JOCELYNMdelphi.com, QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: That black center again

Message-ID: <970902103310_1648900799emout13.mail.aol.com>

Has anyone found a red or black centered quilt that DEFINITELY dates to the

time period of 1862-1865 or prior to that when the Underground was also

active. If not I think we should move on. I own a black centered log cabin

and it is absolutely not of the period prior to 1865. I also saw a log cabin

at the Alamance Co. Historical Soc. Museum in Alamance, NC dated 1866 and it

had a multitude of colors in the centers.

Can't we just enjoy log cabin quilts for what they are----pretty, interesting

quilts made in the late 1860's to the turn of the century. I am sorry if I

sound nasty about this, but I think that there are many topics out there to

study and we are beating this topic in the ground.

I thoroughly enjoyed the exchange on Amish Quilts.

I have recently had contact with some broderie perse quilts. One fabulous

one is found in the musuem in Alamance. The entire applique is done in

buttonhole stitches. Fabulous!!!! I also came across a chintz bordered

quilt that the owner swore had to be 1820's because it had chintz in it. It

also had a center that had solid cotton applique rose wreaths. All of the

"clues" lead me to ca. 1850. It was a perfect example of -----you can't look

at one thing and date a quilt. As BB says in CLUES in the CALICO it has to

be done using many factors.

Lynn in NC

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:11:01 -0400 (EDT)

From: HPQuiltingaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

cc: MiniQuiltraol.com

Subject: QHL: Antique Quilt

Message-ID: <970902101018_-798433678emout17.mail.aol.com>

Friends, I need your assistance. I was fortunate enough to view a beautiful

antique quilt this weekend. It has a very unusual pattern to it. The outside

of the pattern is very typical of a Mariner's Compass, but the center portion

is not like any Mariner's Compass that I have ever seen. The quilt was

produced in the lower Appalachian region and I believe the blue portion of it

is a vegetable dye. The terra cotta portion is undoubtable mud dyed. The back

is homespun.

I took a picture and I would like to scan it in the computer and attach it to

personal email to anyone who might be able to identify the name of the

pattern. I know we have a few curators out there, so if you will send me your

private email address, I would be very grateful. The owner of the quilt paid

$25 for it. She is the archivist at Tannehill State Park. I believe the quilt

to be made sometime around 1840 to 1860.

Thank you,

Penny Palmer Keys(HPQuiltingaol.com)

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:49:44 -0500 (EST)

From: Diane Krall <dkrall.inmuincolsa.palni.edu>

On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Ellene Gravelle wrote:

> Hi: Does anyone know a source for the book on the Espirit Amish

> Collection which toured the country recently. I understand it was a

> wonderful exhibit. An Australian friend of a friend is looking for 5

> copies. Ellene

>

>

Ellene,

Don't know about an exhibition catalog, but there was a beautiful book to

document Doug Tompkins/Esprit collection several years ago. AMISH

QUILTS, with the text by Robert Hughes. The hardback was pretty pricey.

I have recently seen the paperback for 45 dollars.

Diane>

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:28:04 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colleen Francis <silversfsu.edu>

I enjoy the few Amish quilts I've seen and want to make one using

traditional Amish colors (solids - no prints) in the diamond and the

square pattern. What I need to know is what color thread the Amish would

traditionally use to quilt with? Would they use only one color? Black?

White? the color of the background fabric? Are there traditional Amish

quilting patterns? What other block patterns would they favor? I

appreciate any help I can get on this. Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 19:37:01 -0400

From: Ricki Maietta <rmaiettacsrlink.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: tobacco leaf

Message-Id: <199709030121.UAA21178csrlink.net>

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Hi everyone! I found it! Or, rather, them! I knew if I looked long enough

I would find the tobacco leaf patterns I remembered. This is in reference

to whoever it was that wanted a tobacco leaf pattern a couple of weeks ago.

I had such fun flipping through stacks of magazines! I do that about once a

year - still only half way through the stacks.

Anyway, the tobacco leaf pattern I remembered best from an antique quilt is

in Quilt magazine, summer 1986 issue. It is a 15 inch appliqued block,

pattern on page 94, color picture on page 24. I like this one best.

Then, in Quilters' Newsletter Magazine, May 1995 on pages 30 & 31 are

pictured 2 different tobacco leaf patterns. These are also applique, not as

detailed, in an article of all South Carolina blocks. Oh, & no patterns,

just pictures of the blocks.

So, whoever was looking for them - that's where they are! If you can't find

these mags, let me know & I'll send you copies.

Ricki in PA

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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:17:43 -0400

From: "Willis Muska" <WILLISMworldnet.att.net>

To Ricky in PA:

I am the one (or one of them) looking for the tobacco leaf pattern. I

don't have access to the magazine to which you referred and would love a

copy if you don't mind. Will be glad to send you a fq or pay for any costs

associated with copying and sending this to me.

Thanks again,

Diane in VA

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> From: QHL-Digest-requestcue.com

> To: QHL-Digestcue.com

> Subject: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #231

> Date: Tuesday, September 02, 1997 9:55 PM

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 12:24:02 -0600 (CST)

From: KENNEDYAVAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Pins

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When and where is the Quilt Restoration Conference? How can I

get information about it? or am I too late?

Thank you.

Mary Jo

kennedyacvax1.mankato.msus.edu

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 13:50:19 -0600 (CST)

From: KENNEDYAVAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU

Susanne,

Would you mind sending out the buttermilk recipe again? I thought I

saved it but now can't find it. Does this work on old stained feed sacks?

Thank you.