Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:09:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mr. Caveman" <caveman@fastlane.net

Hi all,
I just got my copy of Barbara Brackman's latest book, Quilts from the
Civil War, and it is just wonderful. It is a beautiful book filled with
pictures of antique quilts, new quilts out of repro fabrics (patterns
included!), antique portraits of women and children, and much more. I just
read the first chapter last night and it promises to be a fascinating look
at the Civil War, especially women's role in this particular time in our
history. I can't wait to read on. I have looked forward to the release of
this book and it is everything I had hoped it would be. I highly recommend it!
Also, I just bought 1/2 yd each of the new Fons and Porter "Cumberland"
line of repro fabrics. They are just great and I can't wait to cut into
them. There are 49 ( I think ) fabrics and all of them would look terrific
worked up into an 1850's repro quilt! So many ideas, so little time..

Arlene in Texas.....soon to be in Houston, Tx. visiting the International
Quilt Festival!!

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:31:53 +1100
From: Sven Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>

Thank you to all those QHLers who replied to my query on the Double Nine
Patch Quilt.
I have been in touch with the KHS and have the information on the quilt.
I know the Owner in 1986, and the maker (I think probably the mother of
the owner).

Thank you to you all.

Lorraine in Oz

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 02:33:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: BukiQuiltr@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Antique quilts and such
Message-ID: <971025023357_645271618@emout08.mail.aol.com>

Hi everyone,
I'm back from my trip to Italy and am trying to get back in the swing of work
again.
I was called by some gals in this area who are working up an estate sale of
their mother's possessions and wanted some help pricing quilts and old fabric
and some heirloom clothing and I mean heirloom!
They have several quilts including two crazy quilts, a cheddar yellow and
white miniature 9 patch(which is my favorite), a few others that are utility
quilts.
They have some grandmother 's Flower garden blocks that are forties with 32
blocks and the matching fabric to go with; another small flower garden with a
yellow background.
The vintage clothing is wonderful and I would say victorian. There are
dresses one that is gorgeous, a couple of two piece outfits entirely of lace,
a jacket of lace and tulle, some baby clothesand it goes on!
If I wasn't so broke from my trip, I'd buy all the quilts!?! At least the
yellow nine patch because it is so unusual. I guess it's not really a
nine-patch per se, it also has a 16 ? piece block in the triple Irish Chain
but it is not an Irish chain either.
I know for a fact that they are not going to get top dollar for these things
in this town so I have directed them to the internet or suggested the one
sister , who is from N.C, to take some of these things to the east coast to
sell them.
An antique dealer from here who is known for trying to buy at a dirt cheap
prices (and I know she has to make a living too); offered them $50 for all
the adult clothing !!! Give me a break, I would have told her to take a hike!
Well, I just had to tell someone since my friend Shirley is in the hospital
for knee surgery amd I wouldn't dare tell her, she'd leave her hospital bed!
If anyone is interested in anything, let me know! The only person I could
think of to direct them to for the vintage clothing was Martha Pullen?
I think this has gone on long enough.
But I may try to figure out how I can buy that yellow quilt and I don't even
care for yellow!
Are we crazy or what?
Dee from Rockford, Il.
PS- BTW the Shirley I was speaking of is Shirley Spencer and if anyone would
like to sent her a card, e-mail me and I will send you her address. She had a
knee replacement Tuesday the 21st and I think is doing fine. This is her
second, she had the other one done in April.

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:27:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: EppiesMom@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: wool batting
Message-ID: <971025192710_764328804@mrin40.mail.aol.com>

Hello Tiffany,

I have had some experience with the Hobbs Wool. It is like butter to hand
quilt through--love it. But! it beards severely. (fibers migrate through the
fabric) I spoke with the company rep and he told me that they advise against
using it with dark fabrics, as the bearding will show and probably will get
worse with time. So--if you want a really warm, but light and easy to quilt
batt, I recommed Hobbs' Thermore. It is very thin, so that needs to be taken
into consideration, depending on the look you want. It drapes softly and
beautifully. It is often used in clothing, but some complain it is too warm
for a vest. I now use it for most of my hand quilting and all of my machine
quilting.

Best of luck,
Janice Avila in Sunny Salinas CA, who's little black cat changed her name
last winter to Fluffy, but who still answers to EppiesMom@aol.com

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:04:29 -0500
From: "Kris Driessen, Hickory Hill Quilts" <oldquilt@albany.net>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: NPN
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971026170429.2def74ce@mail.albany.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

QHLers,

I happened to see this on the last issue of Nine Patch News. Does anyone have
any information they would like to share with us (or her)?

Kris
>
>I'd like to research broderie perse and quilting in Europe and
>colonial America mid-18th c; I plan to use the forms used at that time and
>place for covers of a family history which focuses on Susannah Gaillard
>Mayrant who died leaving 3 young orphans in SC in mid-1700s. I would like
>e-mails from your readers on quilting patterns and practices, URLs for this
>research, or questions and comments on how to focus their research for
>similar projects. Also, as part of a family history project I'm collecting
>unusual (I have the usual Grandmother's flower garden and French Bouquet)
>uses of the hexagon in quilts; I'd appreciate any e-mails pertaining to
>hexagonal patterns in quilts and other sewing projects being sent to me at
>huguenaute@aol.com. ...Diane
>

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 13:23:37 -0500 (EST)
From: EllynLK@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Cora's Quilt
Message-ID: <971026132337_-1308279365@mrin44.mail.aol.com>

I posted something similar to this a long time ago on the quilting board on
AOL... wanted to share it here with my friends in quilting....

I do all of my quilting work-- piecing, bordering, the big seam on the back
and quilting-- entirely by hand. It's a deliberate choice on my part.

When I was in high school in the '70's, my grandmother, Cora Peterson, made
me a quilt. It was a flannel quilt-- pieced flannel blocks, backed with
flannel and batted with a flannel sheet-- and tied. It was on my bed for
many, many years without much thought. It was warm, it was from my beloved
gramma and I loved it. But really, it was just a quilt.

My grandmother grew old and frail, a whisper of the energetic woman she had
been. She remembered 1940 better than she recalled yesterday. And she
didn't quite recall who I was. I had always been kind of special to her, I
think, as I was the only daughter of her only daughter (she'd had eight boys
with my mom planted between two sets of four). I would say "I love you" and
Cora would nod, distantly, wary of expressing or giving her heart to one she
wasn't sure was a friend or foe. That hurt.

She died at 94. And suddenly, the old flannel quilt changed in my eyes. The
woman who lived her days in a haze where the years lost their meaning was not
my grandmother. But the one who made that quilt *was*. The grandmother of
my heart and memory, the busy one who still chopped kindling wood well into
her 80's and could cook up a meal on the wood-burning stove when the
electricity failed, was the one who had made me a quilt. She took time from
her busy days to make me a quilt-- entirely by hand. Her needle went in and
out of that thing a million times-- for love of me.

It suddenly didn't matter that the grandmother who died couldn't recall my
name or tell me that she loved me. The quilt is a viable, tangible reminder
of her love. It has become a talisman, a forever hug and endearment from my
grandmother. When I need a little extra love, I pull out the quilt because
it buzzes with her energy.

I decided then that I would quilt and work entirely by hand. I don't have
much to give to people-- but I can give them my love and energy. It may take
a while for the intent of the gift to "take"-- took me twenty years to "get"
the message of Cora's Quilt-- but when I am gone or can no longer say it,
the quilts will be here to speak for me.

Lauri Klobas, Los Angeles, California where the air is clear and warm but the
nights are taking on a bite as autumn digs in

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:48:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Quilt97@aol.com
To: quiltopia@planetpatchwork.com, kaffee-klatsch@quilt.com, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Doll
Message-ID: <971026154700_-1560892265@emout10.mail.aol.com>

In the Keepsake Quilting catalog there is a topsy-turvy doll -- two dolls in
one. Turn it upside down and it is a different doll.

Does anyone know of any plans for a topsy turvy doll that would be made up of
Cindarella/her wicked stepmother, or Little Red Riding Hood/the wolf, etc.?
I saw some for sale several years ago, but have never seen any patterns.

Thanks.

EKarenbeth in nice and cool south TX

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:03:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Joanna E Evans <joeevans@indiana.edu>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #281
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971026215849.2265D-100000@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hello,

I inherited a beautiful 19th century crazy quilt that has a quilted
backing that was made for the crazy quilt. the backing appears to be made
of 2 layers of silk with wool batting. The geometric pattern of machine
quilting suggests that it was made specifically for the crazy quilt and
not a piece left over from something else. Also, a few scraps of the silk
appear on the crazy quilt.

I would love to hear from others who have crazy quilts from the late 19th
century with this or other backings.

Joanna Evans
Bloomington IN

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:51:48 +1100 (EST)
From: Julie Warren <bawarren@netspace.net.au>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Wool batting
Message-Id: <3.0.16.19971027201644.463785ee@pop.netspace.net.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

I am an Australian and here we now frequently use wool batts. I have used
them on several quilts including one currently on our bed and they quilt
beautifully. I have both machine quilted and hand quilted and am happy
with the results in both cases.

We have a company here who actually make the batting on a roll and you go
to your quilt shop and buy it by the metre(yard). It is about 210cm wide
which is roughly 80" which means that you generally only have to buy the
width of your quilt. It costs less than cotton batting and is much nicer
than poly.

As to the bearding, yes it happens but I have not had a bad experience with
it and one of my bed quilts has a dark wool batting in a light coloured
quilt. (Usual story had to finish the quilt in a hurry and it was all I
had). This quilt has survived well on the bed with no bearding that I have
noticed. When wool batts first were introduced here by the Australian
company who makes them there were some initial problems but this company
has work hard with quilts to improve their product to the extent that
recently they introduced a new version which is bonded therefore allowing
for greater quilting license.

Also I was told that with wool batting one of the problems is that we tend
not to quilt close enough. I think that for a long while we got used to
the polyesters which don't need close quilting and tried to treat all
battings the same. Anyway it is suggested that to gauge how close you
should quilt you pull out one of the staples (ie.wool fibres) from the batt
and see how long it is. This gives you the approximate maximum distance
apart for yor quilting. Here we tend to suggest approximately every two
inches although with the new bonded batting we can go about double that
now. The idea of quilting is to hold the three layers together somewhere
along the way you have catch the batting fibres down if you want them to
stay put.

Now having said all that, there is one other factor that effects whether a
quilt will beard or not, and that is the fibre count of the fabrics you
have used both top and bottom. Many of wonderful materials vary
considerably in fibre count. Just look at some of quilts and you will see
some suffer more from bearding than others.

BTW I have had/seen polyester including pellon beard. Nothing is perfect.

Sorry this is so long but since my country was once said to ride on the
sheep's back I had to have my 2-pennyworth (sorry I meant 2 cent worth).

Oh one further point, the Manufacture of our wool batts has just agreed to
sponsor our Melbourne Quilt Exhibition in March 1999. They are sponsoring
the main prize of $5000.00 Australian in cash. Anyone interested I can get
you the details or post to the list.

Anyway now I am definitely going.

Julie from a very summery Melbourne, Australia, Down Under.
bawarren@netspace.net.au

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:40:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Quilt97@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Doll
Message-ID: <971027103639_-789628667@emout03.mail.aol.com>

Sorry to post this to the list, but messages keep bouncing back from Marie at

david@spamblocknodanw.demon.co.uk

Marie, I'd love a copy of the pattern, Thanks!

EKarenbeth

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:06:50 -0800
From: lrobins@cclink.fhcrc.org (laurarm)
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #285
Message-ID: <454c0a60@cclink.fhcrc.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Nancy posted the address for the Cranston web site. It really is a
great site, and the info on fabric design and printing, and fabric
history, is more detailed than in Harriet Hargrave's "From Fiber to
Fabric". (Nice book, but I wanted more detail.)

And I learned something else -- they mentioned the Tenter Frame, used
to stretch and block wet fabrics and it reminded me of the idiom "on
tenderhooks" (to be uneasy or in suspense). So I checked the
dictionary and the correct phrase is "on tenterhooks" and yes it comes
from the fabric weaving term (the hooks that stretch the fabrics on
the tenter frame). Anyway, I thought it was interesting...

It's a great site -- check it out! www.cranstonvillage.com
(Thanks, Nancy)

Laura in Seattle

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:03:23 -0800
From: mle@lowell.edu (Mary Lou Evans)
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Fading fabric - Help needed!
Message-Id: <v01530501b07a8774878b@[192.103.11.79]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi All - years ago I had a fading kit from a company called "By Jupiter"
now I want to fade alot of fabric and wondered if anyone on this list knows
what to use to fade fabric? The samples that I have were faded and then
tea dyed. Quite a nice look! TIA, Mary Lou

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:28:04 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>
To: Mary Lou Evans <mle@lowell.edu>
CC: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Fading fabric - Help needed!
Message-ID: <3454DD34.4962@airmail.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Mary Lou Evans wrote:
>
> Hi All - years ago I had a fading kit from a company called "By Jupiter"
> now I want to fade alot of fabric and wondered if anyone on this list knows
> what to use to fade fabric? The samples that I have were faded and then
> tea dyed. Quite a nice look! TIA, Mary Lou

Mary Lou: We have some of the By Jupiter! Fading kits at Country
Calico's. I've tried several different methods, bleaching, sun fading,
and still go back to it. Sorry, I don't know the $$ but you can call the
shop at 972-423-2499 if you want us to send you a package.

Laura

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:17:56 +1000
From: Sven Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: re: the list
Message-ID: <34553D44.67B@pnc.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Hello All,

I too am a "lurker". I also happen to be in Australia, and have no other
readily available people to ask when I have a question about old quilts.

I have been a member for about 12 months now and have really enjoyed
reading everyones' letters, even about re-decorating a certain bedroom.

Yes it has been a bit quiet on big items lately, but maybe that means
that rather than complain about things, someone should throw up a good
subject for discussion.

My passion is Nine Patch quilts from the 1870s.

I have three of these quilts, one with a Lancaster Blue setting block,
and Madder Brown and Pumpkin and other wonderful prints in the nine
patches. The back is a Madder Paisley stripe.

Anyone out there want to share their favourite quit?????

Come on and talk folks.........

Lorraine in Oz

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:21:15 -0500 (EST)
From: AJSNGS@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: The purpose of QHL
Message-ID: <971027190009_-257887539@emout03.mail.aol.com>

Hi all,

I read Alan's post about his concerns about QHL and it's purpose. I
understand and respect what he is saying. Some of you have very specific
needs from this list, and I think that stems from the fact that some of you
are much more educated in the field of antique quilts and their history than
other members--like me. I enjoy learning all that you have to offer, whether
it be about feedsacks, or restoring an old quilt, or putting together old
quilt blocks, etc. I don't feel that I have a lot to offer, but I do like to
ask questions! If we become too rigid in our rules for this list, I do think
you'll find that people leave. While I agree that the purpose of QHL should
remain the discussion of antique quilts and their history, etc. it's nice to
think that other topics can be brought up once in awhile too.

Bottom line is, if I joined a guild that met locally, and we had very rigid
ideas of what could be discussed, I probably (and this is just MY feeling)
would not feel comfortable and wouldn't come back.

Sincerely,

Nancy Sentipal
AJSNGS@aol.com

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To: ayjones@tacoma.nwrain.net, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: different values from different appraisers
Message-ID: <971028212505_1378012625@emout10.mail.aol.com>

Subj:    Different opinions
Date:    10/28/97
To:    ayjones@tacoma.nwrain.net

In a message dated 97-10-28 10:51:15 EST, ayjones@tacoma.nwrain.net writes:

<< I was interested why 3 different AQS
appraisers could date and appraise a quilt and have a different value. How
much is to much to pay for a quilt.Should the same quilt be appraised
differently from state to state???How many of you actually have your quilts
insured? >>

Dear All,

This question interested me.

An appraisal is an opinion, an opinion of estimated value. It is quite
natural for appraisers to have different values on the same quilt. They
should however not be wildly different. These differences reflect regional
differences. Just as real estate values differ from one state to
another......the values of personal property, antiques and quilts vary also.
If your appraisal is for Insurance Replacement Value, it should be for the
cost of replacing that item where you live. The exception would be if your
quilt for example is not gererally available where you live, then the
appraiser has to know where that item would be available and use the cost of
the item in that area.

I would say a fair number of people actually DO have their quilts insured. I
am in the process of documenting and getting my own done......but then I have
business insurance......which is different.

Regards,
Julia, Appraiser certified by AQS

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:00:37 -0500 (EST)
From: "Carol L. O'Neill" <coneill@CapAccess.org>
To: JOCELYNM@delphi.com
cc: AJSNGS@aol.com, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: The purpose of QHL
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.971028215841.220A-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Jocelyn wrote about being disappointed with only one response to her
first question about restoring a quilt and no response to her second
question. Maybe that's because those of us who are on here primarily to
learn, not anywhere near being an expert, worry that we shouldn't say
anything in deference to those with more expertise??? And maybe we
SHOULD start speaking up with at least an opinion. I'll try from now on...

                        --Carol in VA
                        (coneill@capaccess.org)

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:00:09 -0500
From: "Phyllis Twigg" <ptwigg@radix.net>
To: "QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com>
Subject: QHL: looking for exhibitions
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to visit in January or March which would be within a day's travel. =
Please advise me of any possibilities you may know - antique quilts or =
otherwise. Originally I was thinking of traveling to NewYork City but am =
having trouble finding quilts on display this winter. Perhaps Richmond, =
Va., New Jersey, or somewhere in Pennsylvania ?=20
Thanks !!
Phyllis Twigg
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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:03:59 -0800
From: Rayna Gillman <RG2@worldnet.att.net>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: The life cycle of mailing lists
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Alan's comments and the resulting discussion sent me scurrying for this
message in my "save" folder. From what I can see, this group has
(fortunately) avoided the flaming routine -- and instead, by bringing
out all the voices, has gotten an infusion that has probably
re-energized the list. Thanks, Chris, for your response.

Rayna Gillman
RG2@worldnet.att.net
in West Orange, NJ


Kat Nagel (KatNagel@eznet.net) sent this terrific piece to the EARLY-M
mailing list in December
1994. It is the best description of the social development of a mailing
list I've read.

Every list seems to go through the same cycle:

1.Initial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush a lot
about how wonderful it is to find kindred souls).
2.Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the
list, and brainstorm recruitment strategies).
3.Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads
develop, occasional off-topic threads pop up).
4.Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of
information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well
as less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each
other; newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone --
newbie and expert alike -- feels comfortable asking questions,
suggesting
answers, and sharing opinions).

5.Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases
dramatically; not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people
start complaining about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to
quit if *other* people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic;
person 2 agrees with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more
bandwidth is wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for
the threads themselves; everyone gets annoyed).
6.Finally:
1.Smug complacency and stagnation (the purists flame everyone
who asks an 'old' question or responds with humor to a serious post;
newbies are rebuffed; traffic drops to a doze-producing level of a few
minor issues; all interesting discussions happen by private email and
are limited to a few participants; the purists spend lots of time
self-righteously congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads
off the list).

OR
2.Maturity (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants
stay near stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many
people wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives
contentedly ever after).

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:48:30 -0500
From: Ricki Maietta <rmaietta@csrlink.net>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: big spoon
Message-Id: <199710290337.WAA21748@csrlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

In response to Alan's questions about this list - I must admit that I
expected more discussion on restoration & research. Knowing that Kris is
active in the Quilt Restoration Society, & that this list is devoted to
antique/historic quilts, I assumed that all computer-pounding
restorationists & historians would be on here yakking away about their
latest projects. I know there are some of you out there . . . . . I
actually had typed a letter to Camille & Nancy right after Albany in '96
suggesting just such a list - before I even mailed the letter, Kris' list
was online & I thought, Oh well, this is it then. Didn't bother mailing my
letter.

I don't mind some chatter. I'm probably more tolerant than most. But I do
know that there have been several occasions when I have deliberately tried
to start a conversation cause I thought things were getting too general,
not really a historic focus, nothing restoration. And yes, I realize that
this list is not just for restoration. My point is, with several hundred
people on this list, no one should have to deliberately try to start a
conversation!

Lately I have found the conversation about crazy quilts, & whether or not
they are actually quilted, very interesting. To me, these are the kinds of
discussion I would like to see more of. And, maybe when a new book comes
out, we could actually discuss it, as opposed to just saying it's gorgeous
(as they all are!). These are just suggestions, not criticisms.

I've been pretty quiet lately myself, mainly cause I've been busy, making
quilt tops for a magazine article & putting together 2 special exhibits.
More on that later. To use the tail-end of this post in a positive way,
I'll just keep going:

On crazy quilts, I have seen many crazies with quilted backings. However,
these backs appear to be fabric that was purchased already quilted & then
just used as a back. I have also seen a beautiful early crazy that was
sewn/tacked (as opposed to quilted or tied) together with a small circle of
buttonhole stitch, about the size of a pencil. The thread used was glossy,
silk or rayon maybe & the effect was nice. From the back, these little
round buttonholes were done on a grid of about 6 or 8 inches. From the
front, you had to look for them because - well, you know what crazies are like.

On my last trek through the boxes at the museum when I volunteer (used to
work), I was noticing all the ribbon that was a part of the crazy quilts
there. Barb Garrett was with me that day - Barb, remember all the ribbons?
There was a silk mill in Williamsport, PA, & we're thinking that these
ribbons were from that mill. The historical society journal had an article
recently where several senior citizens that had been employees were
interviewed about working at the silk mill. They did mention ribbons...
Sound like someone (wonder who) should find time for a research project.

Ricki in PA - who has to get going, I'm on the radio this morning promoting
our exhibit. I promise to send details later today!

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:07:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "Edna K." <eak@inet.net>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Anne Champe Orr
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Thank you to all of you who responded to my request for information about
Anne Orr. I received a letter via snail mail from Hazel Carter, President
of the Quilter's Hall of Fame in Marion, IN and alas, My Dear Aunt Anne and
the famous Anne Champe Orr and not one and the same. But I shall continue
my research because now I am very interested in both Annes. Again, thank you.
eak@inet.net

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:25:05 -0500
From: "Miklos B. Lukacs" <mlukacs@webbernet.net>
To: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrs@mail.albany.net>
CC: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Staying out of it...
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Kris, thank you so very much. 1. That site (url included) is
fantastic. 2. You sit back, let us have our say and come aboard with
some good ideas.
    We have been in a lull lately. But, Alan, you made us realize that we
are important to each other. I value all I have learned on the list.
I have become an avid collector of quilt history. I became fascinated
with quilting about 5 yrs. ago, and now you folks have made me divide
some of my stash money and funnel it into collecting books. I now do
not know which holds more interest for me. But I am as happy as I can
be doing both. Isn't it great!!
    I do have a question. A friend of my daughters would like me to do
"something" with a top her grandma made. It is made of 12 squares of
white material which have little girl type scenes outline embroidered on
them. Each square is sashed with a bubble gum color of pink. The
sashing does not feel like cotton, but I am unable to identify and do
not want to do a burn test<g>. She would like it tied. The squares are
about 18". Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    Hugs to all. Connie L.

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:17:26 -0800
From: Anne Scott <nzquilter@xtra.co.nz>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Fabric samples
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I was recently given a large pile (they stand six inches high) of fabric
samples which were given to a 70 year old friend when she was a child by
a travelling salesman. They are still on their original backing card,
loosely pasted complete with specifications and pattern numbers. They are
the kind of fabric my seventy year old friend described as being the
thing "little girls' dresses were made from" back then - voiles,
organzas, dotted swiss, lawns, 'blossom prints' etc.

My friend had a little toy machine and cut some up. She gave me these as
they were on their way to the rubbish dump.

Manufacturers are:

Arthur Beir & Co Inc (ABC Fabrics)

N Fluegelmann & Co Inc (Quality Fabrics)

William Anderson Textile Manufacturing Co Inc (WM Anderson)

What should I do with these? Are they of historical interest? Or can I
use them in my quilts?

Grateful any comments.

Re the discussion on the aims and aspirations of the list: I joined up
when I was writing an article on mailing lists for my magazine. I joined
every list I had ever heard of (and some you have probably never heard
of). The net result was 100+ messages every time I opened my computer. I
persevered for about a week - the different flavours of each list was
quitesurprising. I have maintained my subscription to four lists and QHL
is one of these. I learn much and enjoy the correspondence and eagerly
open each and every digest. Keep it up.

Kind regards

Anne Scott
Editor/Publisher
New Zealand QUILTER
Wellington
New Zealand

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:37:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Baglady111@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Group trip planning
Message-ID: <971029053735_1112350554@mrin41.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-10-29 05:29:59 EST, you write:

<< I am in the planning stages of a group (guild) bus trip in January or
March. I'm looking for quilt-related places and / or quilt exhibitions to
visit. >>


Like...where is the bus going?? Areas traveledand destination?? Jane of THE
FEEDSACK CLUB

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 06:27:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Baglady111@aol.com
To: QHL@cue.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Allen thank you for asking!
Message-ID: <971029062731_1567994974@emout02.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-10-28 14:31:53 EST, you write:

<< when I asked about how
to use an appraiser to look at and evaluate old quilts...zip. >>

CINDY..I must have missed your post about an appraiser search..or possibly
thought someone had emailed you at home..I know of appraisers..one lady is
sooo neat that she will refer you to THE correct one..for instance..and "red
work', a SUN BONNET one..etc..if that is THEIR expertise..her name is
GEORGINIA FRIES (FREEZE) 410-867-0665 she vends at large quilt shows (
vintage/feedsack/regular fabs//sells quilts..and does marvelous programs for
guilds/organizations..she and hubby Dick work together..GREAT
PEOPLE....honest and fair..Jane

In regards to Alan's post:

Because there has been controversy in the past..it has set a practice of
reading a post and contacting the poster privately..consequently, we do not
know if the post has been answered..many friendships have been made thru
QHL..and yet, we wouldn';t know each other if we were the only two people in
a room..BUT because there has been those that say, "this belongs on a private
email" or
'I get tired of reading the "me too's"..in other words..PUBLIC
CRITICISM..many, many will not get involved..I was told that one reason
is..they are paying for their service..and in alot of cases, they are using a
computor at work..AND ARE THEY SUPPOSE TO BE DOING THAT??? I read alot of
these addresses and see colleges, companies..etc...Until I receive a personal
email from KRIS..about my behavior...I'll post as I see fit., but these
peole are intimidating others from participating. If you have something to
say about what a person is posting.THEN you contact the person PRIVATELY.
Why would anyone want to embarrass someone openly????someone you don't even
know..what low esteem!! and because of your open criticism..we know who you
are..how embarrassing for YOU!!

I wasn't going to get into this til I saw how many people are concerned about
the direction of QHL..and if you go back to the beginning, WHEN INFO FLEW
BACK AND FORTH, (and don't anyone tell me I am shouting!!! I am
emphasizing!) go back to those who were contributing..GOODY RABBIT, JEAN
EITEL, SADIEROSE, and many others..ASK THEM why they are not participating..
I get pl;enty of email privately about being hesitant in joining in..how sad
that just a few "not it all's ruin it for others. Kris does a super job.
And from the beginning I felt is was more a FORUM than just another digest.
So don't criticize the person that says "I wnat a copy too" or.".Me too,
count me in" this tells others that THEY ARE INVOLVED, IT IS AN INTERESTING
ITEM/SUBJECT, IT IT IS WORKING.....thanx Alan for bringing this to
light..WELL DONE..JANE of THE FEEDSACK CLUB

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:23:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Tubeywooby@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #286
Message-ID: <971029072323_84628528@mrin39>

In a message dated 10/27/97 9:57:39 PM, you wrote:

<<I would love to hear from others who have crazy quilts from the late 19th
century with this or other backings.
>>

Dearest QHLers,
While at Houston Festival on Wednesday preview night, I spied a wool
primitive crazy and pulled it off the floor from under a table. It was HEAVY,
and on closer inspection had a primitive cotton plaid quilt as batting.
anyway, of course I unfolded it and immediately fell in love.. each patch was
heavily embroidered with whimsical animals or names.... WILLIE with a bow
embroidered on each letter, a rooster blowing a horn, horses, a good luck
horseshoe, and lots of old fashioned button up boots. And then I spied it...
1894. Asking the price, the sweet little old lady said she didn't want to
take the heavy thing back home and would give it up for $250. Then a French
couple came up and started oohing over it, asking me how much. I said I was
buying it and not selling.... the man collected roosters and the woman
collected crazy quilts, so they oogled over it awhile. Of course I was
commited by then, and now it lives with me. By the way, it is fan quilted and
in good shape, although one fabric in the middle is shredding and a few on
the side, but I don't plan any repairs. It all gives it character.
A perfect quilt for us `CrazyFolk'>>>> Melissa

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:37:42 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>
To: Phyllis Twigg <ptwigg@radix.net>
CC: QHL <QHL@cuenet.com>
Subject: Re: QHL: Group trip planning
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Phyllis Twigg wrote:
>
> I am in the planning stages of a group (guild) bus trip in January or
> March. I'm looking for quilt-related places and / or quilt exhibitions
> to visit.

Phyllis: the Dallas show (#18?) is March 13-15. I'm no longer in charge
of publicity, but it is at the World Trade Center 200,000 square feet,
500 or so quilts in the exhibit, 100 or so vendors...Texas is really
pretty that time of year, so is the city. Lots to do and see along the
way, and towards the hill country and all the bluebonnets. Let me know
if you want more info and I can put you in touch with the Guild
President.

Laura

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:44:44 +0400
From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>
To: nzquilter@xtra.co.nz
CC: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Fabric samples
Message-ID: <3456BF3B.2161@netusa1.net>
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Dear Anne - About your fabric samples: as a person interested in
historic textiles, I would urge you to keep the samples intact with the
manufacturers' cards and information. There is a lot of vintage fabric
out there, but we often are unable to identify the manufacturers or the
distributors of fabrics printed before the practice of putting
identifying data on the selvedges. There are folks (like myself) who
collect fabric sample books and that sort of thing. Anything that adds
to the body of research knowledge is valuable, and sometimes we just
have to keep stuff until enough of it accumulates to form a coherent
body.

Xenia, in Indiana (finally back from the Houston Int'l Show, with major
unpacking to do today!)

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:42:05 -0800
From: Lynn & Debbie CUPP <lcupp@erols.com>
To: QHL@cuenet.com, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Some old fabric/quilt??
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Good morning everyone!

I invite you to take a peek at a foundation pieced top I have. I have
scanned one of these blocks on my webpage. It is a spool pattern.
I also have a red and once was green applique quilt. It is scanned
there, too. Enjoy the images and I'd be pleased to have any opinions or
entertain questions about them.

Debbie Cupp

http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/meadowbank/32/debi.html

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:30:18 +0400
From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>
To: Palampore@aol.com
CC: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Research
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Hi, Lynn and QHLers - have read with great interest the post from Alan
and all the responses, which were waiting (in a HUGE bunch) when I
returned from Houston. Accordingly, I am posting my response for Lynn
to the list as well.

About researching the quilt from Bucks Co., PA, and the Baltimore area,
on which there is supposedly no estate record: having just discovered
the tremendous resources and generosity of the Family History centers of
the LDS church, I would urge anyone beginning research (on anything, not
just textiles) to consider this as a point of beginning. In this
country is has been difficult to be born, to marry, to die, to
immigrate, to sue in the courts, to adopt, to transact real estate
sales, to inherit etc. - without leaving a record.
Lynn, if you have names and approximate dates, and some idea of place,
you should be able to take that information to a Family History Center
(call your library or Latter Day Saints church for nearest location) and
get some help in locating records. Once you know a person's death date
and where they died you should be able to access probate records and
wills. We know that textiles were valuable enough that they were often
enumerated in wills or estate inventories, and were often listed as
specific bequests. This kind of research can usually be done without
going to the geographic area where the person/record existed.
Let us know how the research goes - we may all have something to learn
from it.

Xenia, in Indiana

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:34:01 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>
To: nzquilter@xtra.co.nz
CC: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Fabric samples
Message-ID: <34574959.3951@airmail.net>
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Xenia Cord wrote:
>
> Dear Anne - About your fabric samples: as a person interested in
> historic textiles, I would urge you to keep the samples intact with the
> manufacturers' cards and information. There is a lot of vintage fabric
> out there, but we often are unable to identify the manufacturers or the
> distributors of fabrics printed before the practice of putting
> identifying data on the selvedges. There are folks (like myself) who
> collect fabric sample books and that sort of thing. Anything that adds
> to the body of research knowledge is valuable, and sometimes we just
> have to keep stuff until enough of it accumulates to form a coherent
> body.
>
> Xenia, in Indiana (finally back from the Houston Int'l Show, with major
> unpacking to do today!)



I seccond Xenia's comments. I was also given a set of salesman's sample
cards from the 1930's but unfortunately, the original recepient took
most of them apart and used several pieces. We are attempting to put
them back together but I'm not sure we'll have much luck. I believe
that these are things that Nancy Kirk is looking for for the Quilt
Heritage Foundation to eventually become part of the perminant
collection for textile history studies.

Laura

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:08:43 -0500
From: Ricki Maietta <rmaietta@csrlink.net>
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: exhibit
Message-Id: <199710291457.JAA01883@csrlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi everyone. Now this is NOT history related, but:

You are all invited to a special exhibit of ART QUILTS at the Lycoming
County Historical Museum 858 W. Fourth St. Williamsport, PA 17701 (717)
326-3326

The exhibit is called "Contemporary Expressions of a Traditional Craft: Art
Quilts" & was curated by myself & friend Pat Coulter. The exhibit runs from
Nov. 1 to 29. Museum is open Tuesday - Friday 9:30 - 4, Saturday 11 - 4.
Closed Monday & all Sundays except Nov. 9. Museum admission is $3.50, with
special rates for seniors & kids & groups (who make advance arrangements.)
On Nov. 9 we will have a free lecture by Fran MacEachren from the State
College area on landscape quilts, her specialty. She is also giving a
workshop on Nov. 15 for our guild, open to anyone, $20, contact me to sign up.

Opening reception for the exhibit is Sat. Nov. 1 from 7 - 9 p.m. with a
gallery talk at 8. There are about 30 quilts in this exhibit & they will
knock your socks off!!!!

If anyone plans to come, let me know & I'll try to be there to meet & say hi.

Ricki - very excited with this one

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:42:17 -0600
From: bgroelz@.net (Brenda Groelz)
For the past seven years (at least...Sara, is it more?), fellow QHL
listmember Sara Dillow and I have served on a committee directing the
Nebraska State Quilt Guild Quilt Preservation Project.

This project, funded by NSQG is, to our knowledge, the first of its kind in
the US. We are documenting every quilt held in a public collection in the
state of Nebraska.

We began by sending surveys to museums in Nebraska, asking for their
estimate of how many quilts and quilt related objects they held in their
collections. We raised funds by holding annual small/wall/doll quilt
auctions at QuiltNebraska, raising between $6,000 and $11,000 at each. We
structured the project around hiring a consultant curator, who would go out
to the museums, view each quilt, document it in writing and in photos, and
assemble a report. We interviewed several candidates and hired Sandi Fox
of Los Angeles, CA to conduct the project for us. She has been hard at
work for more than two years.

One immediate discovery was that the museums underestimated their holdings
by 100%. Each had at least double the number of quilts that they reported.
This single logistic lengthened our project significantly. It's exciting,
but it added to our costs and our timeline.

At the conclusion of the project, the information will be held at our state
historical society and will be available for serious researchers in a
protected fashion.

We discovered some wonderful quilts already living in Nebraska!

In this past year, we received the exciting news that Bob and Ardis James
were donating their sizable (over 900 quilts) collection to the University
of Nebraska-Lincoln. High tech storage facilities were built to house the
collection, and plans immediately implemented to show the quilts on a
regular basis (one thing the Jameses feel strongly about).

Volunteers from across the state come to Lincoln weekly to vacuum the
quilts, and to sew sleeves for display. Presently, a tour of some of the
quilts is scheduled for Japan, and there are many quilts needing muslin
sleeves attached. If you'd like to volunteer, simply call the UNL
Department of Human Resources and tell them when you'd like to come. It's
a great way to get some hands-on experience with antique (and contemporary)
quilts.

Individual quilters, quilt guilds, and quilting businesses are encouraged
to "adopt a quilt", to raise a $2 million endowment for the ongoing care of
the quilts. My guild was the first in the state to adopt one for $500.
We'll receive a photograph of the quilt and information about it. The
Jameses will give an additional $1 million once the money is raised. If
you'd like information about adopting a quilt, please e-mail me and I'll
have a flyer sent out. I serve on the quilter's advisory board for the
Research Center. Sara Dillow serves as the chair of that board and has
worked with Bob and Ardis for several years with regard to the collection
and its move to Nebraska.

UNL is adamant that this is to be an INTERNATIONAL quilt research center,
with the facilities and quilts available for researchers. They are seeking
quilt literature and ephemera to add to the research library on an ongoing
basis. I'm starting them off by giving them my collection of quilt
magazines dating from 1979 and the various historical ephemera I have
collected. Jonathan Holstein serves on the Board of Directors and started
the library with a donation of several out of print quilt books and show
catalogs, including the catalog from his famous Whitney Museum exhibition
that started the current revival of interest in quilts. The center will be
a valuable resource for quilt researchers.

The director of the center, Dr. Patricia Crews, is one of the world's
authorities on textile dating, and is excited to have the quilts available
to the public. Tours of the storage facilities are free and available by
appointment.

I'm sorry that I'm not posting the URL for the center, but unfortunately I
don't have it in front of me. Perhaps Sara will add it for us. But, you
can easily do a search and find it. Eventually there will be photos of the
quilts on the web page, but that will come later.

It's an exciting time to be a quilter in Nebraska, especially one
interested in historical quilts! But, the best thing is, Nebraska is in
the center of the U.S., and easily accessible to all. The International
Quilt Research Center is a resource for all of us and is dedicated to
making this collection available for everyone's use!

Brenda Groelz
Phillips, Nebraska.

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:44:31 -0500 (EST)
From: EllynLK@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Blue Is The Color...
Message-ID: <971029104431_-1307990566@mrin43.mail.aol.com>

Hi, All...

A few years ago I attended a quilt show. One of the speakers was a
delightful woman from Japan who has extensive knowledge of antique American
quilts, styles and fabrics. She spoke briefly about Prussian Blue and
mentioned it was only used for a brief period of time because the run-off
from the process was toxic and workers were dying from it. If I recall
correctly, she said it was manfactured between 1836 and 1860... does anyone
know more about this? And also, what are the telltale signs to I.D. Prussian
Blue? Is it the same as Lafayette Blue? I have some fabrics with a
beautiful jewel-toned blue (not indigo) and suspect this is Prussian Blue.
It is rich and has held all of its brilliance and color for ages. The
pieces I have are from my two 1870's quilt tops.

The colors are captivating but it's horrible to think that someone died
making that blue!

Any telltale indicators of Prussian Blue?

Lauri Klobas from Los Angeles where it is cool and brisk tonight... and the
cat's coat has suddenly grown thicker and bushier overnight as he awaits the
winter.

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:28:44 -0600 (CST)
From: fschott@ix.netcom.com (The Schott Family)
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: North Carolina Quilts
Message-Id: <199710291628.KAA16370@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>

I have the book published by the North Caroline Quilt project, but do
not see a quilt fitting the description you gave, although there is an
Effie Bell and a Vera Bell listed in the roll of honor at the end.
Thie book is North Carolina Quilts, pub in 1988 by the North Caroline
Quilt Project. The editor and director of the project was Ruth Haislip
Roberson. She was living in Durham as of the time the book was
published. Publisher was the University of North Carolina Press, P.
O.Box 2288, Chapel Hill, NC 27515-2288. They may have Ruth's address.

Good luck.

Nancy Schott

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:53:04 -0800
From: gilsons@mail12.voicenet.com (by way of Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrs@mail.albany.net>)
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V97 #287
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971029114908.35c71326@mail.albany.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Jocelyn wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago, I posted about buying my first quilttop. I got a
> grand total of one response, and NO responses to my question about restoring
> it. Apparently this topic was too boring, or too repetitious to be worth
> responding to.

I don't remember the specific question as I have just been skimming the digests
due to an extreme shortage of time. Sometimes a question is so broad that it
takes an entire book to answer it, not a simple post. Camille Cognac's
"Quilt Restoration - A Complete Guide" is a book often recommended by
contributors to this list. The Quilt Restoration Society (they have a web
page) publishes a quarterly newsletter which has some good tips also.

Every restoration is unique. Is there damage to the top? Are you trying to find
restoration fabric? Are you concerned about whether to quilt it or not? Is the
top an flea market find or a family treasure? Narrowing the focus of a question
often brings a better response. Why not try asking again? I've never had the
feeling that people here didn't want to answer a question, but I have skipped
those which were beyond my ability to answer succinctly.

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 97 14:16:10 PST
From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawley@epix.net>
To: QHL@cue.com
Subject: QHL: Something to look forward to
Message-ID: <Chameleon.971029142937.cawley@.epix.net>
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    Monday on the way home from giving away my car to DD in New
Hampshire John and I stopped to check out the wonderful bookstore at Old
Sturbridge Village in MA. (I found a copy of the Pieced by Mother
Symposium Papers which I have borrowed so often from my friend Denise
that I'm sure her patience is waring thin.). Their calendar for 1998 is
called Early New England Quilts and features quilts from their collection
said to be "the nation's most extensive collection of early New England
quilts, nearly 250 pieces dating from the 1770s to the 1850s." Now for
the good part. In the spring of 1998 the Visitors Center Galleries will
exhibit 40 plus quilts from the collection.
    There were no details available but I have the curators name and
I will track her down and post the info when I get it. This sounds like
a must-see to me. Kris, it will probably be up during the gathering in
Lowell and it's only about an hour away. Food for thought. I was
dreaming about Sturbridge, Deerfield and Shelburne in one long, glorious
weekend.
    If anybody wants a calendar call The New England Bookstore,
Sturbridge MA 01566-1198, (508) 347-3362. It was $8.95.
Cinda in Scranton
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 20:47:24 +0000
From: Bob Mills <decision@tigger.jvnc.net>

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> Re Purpose of QHL: I always assumed that the purpose was as stated in writing
> when I joined. Dealing with old quilts and quilt history. I know of no other
> list on this topic, so I cherish QHL. I have not been able to travel to any
> restoration or old quilt conventions, so this list, along with the wonderful U.S.
> library network and area museums have been my old quilt education.

The combined history knowledge of this group is incredible. However, I worry that
folks like Alan and the Kirks will no longer devote the time to sift thru the daily
chat to respond to history /conservation, etc. topics.

Why don't we make a list, as a group, of other quilt net groups who do discuss
latest trends, how-to's, and chat about what folks are working on? Perhaps Kris
could even list them as related topics in her welcome to new subscribers and suggest
they also tune in to those groups. I find I have almost stopped checking the Quilt
groups I originally read as they no longer satisfied my quest for info. But at
first, I found them fun.

Alan and other frustrated historians-just keep reminding folks to refocus or throw
out topics for discussion. We need you here!!!
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To Lynn in NC 'who is researching a quilt from the Bucks Co. PA and Baltimore area
regarding this

> quilt(It dates 1775-1825). Bucks County and Baltimore are a long way apart and
> in different states with different record keeping rules. Was the quilt made over
> time in both states, or was it made in Bucks Cty OR Baltimore?

I have done extensive research in genealogy for 15 years, but not in those two
states. Bucks county had a large Quaker population. Can you determine from the
style or name whether is might be Quaker? The Brandywine, PA, Chaddsford museum had
a Quaker quilts exhibit about a year ago. You would not necessarily have to travel
up north to conduct research. Check your phone book for the closest Church of Jesus
Christ Latter DAy Saints and call to find out their library hours. You could order
various microfiche and check names, etc. The librarians would give you starter
hints and anyone may use their libraries. I am not a member of that church.

> Thanks for the info on the Winston Salem exhibit. I would be interested in
> knowing more about the classes you are taking in Textiles via tape. Is that audio
> or videotape? Are there courses available that are mostly related to conservation
> that one could take w/o doing the whole Masters program?

> Evonne: 'Has anyone shopped on Madison Ave. in NYC for an antique quilt?' No, I
> haven't but am an hour plus train ride from NYC and have often thought about going
> into several quilt antique shops that I have seen advertised. Anyone close enough
> to want to meet in NYC and see the quilts at the American Folk Museum and shop (or
> window shop) for old quilts? I'd love to!!

Jan Drechsler in Princeton, NJ

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