Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:38:58 -0600

From: "Gail Richter" <richter2@frontiernet.net

Hi,

This topic came up on another list I'm on regarding a block exchange.

Someone responded that at one time what we call muslin was called

'calico' and the prints were called 'printed calico'.  Somewhere along

the line the usage of the words changed.

Gail R

in snowy NE Wis.

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:24:27 +0300

From: "John Ordway" <ordway@glas.apc.org>

Thanks for all the nice notes on my term paper <g> -- a few more answers.

Jean -- I do think one of the Russian guilds has a "sister city", so that's

good news.

Melissa -- the internet is wonderful, but most Russians don't even have a

credit card yet.  As you correctly mentioned, overseas shipping costs are

way too much, and then they would have to pay customs duties on whatever

they receive.  It is humbling to see "how they make do" and how frugal

sewers here are with everything!

Maryjo

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:24:25 +0300

From: "John Ordway" <ordway@glas.apc.org>

To: <QHL@cuenet.com>

Cc: <Birdsong@worldnet.att.net>

In reference to Karen's question about calico and muslin, I'll throw another

question in the ring:

what exactly is chambric?  Is that an old-fashioned term for muslin, or is

it a specific muslin or calico- like fabric that was only from a certain

period in the mid 1800's?

Maryjo

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:12:11 EST

From: Kathi2174@aol.com

To: ordway@glas.apc.org

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Maryjo,

Fairchild' s Dictionary of Textiles defines Cambric as "a plain weave, soft

cotton or linen calendered with a slight luster on the face,  Similar to

muslin and batiste."

A bit more fuel for the discussion.

Kathi in Calif.

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:44:00 -0500

From: J. G. Row <judygrow@blast.net>

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I have heard of cheesecloth being used in quilting.  From what I

understand a layer of cheesecloth over polyester batting and under the

quilt top will help to stop bearding.  This is hearsay.  I've never

known anyone who did it, and I have no idea if the results would be as

advertised.

Judy in Ringoes NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:06:22 -0000

From: "Sally Ward" <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk

The sort of jelly I would strain would be made out of fresh fruit (or

herbs) cooked with sugar and lemon juice then strained into a bowl,

pulping and mashing  as you go so that you are left with something clear

but coloured,  set and wobbly .  I suppose it is  halfway between a

dessert jelly (your jello) and jam as it can be either incorporated in a

dessert (especially for vegetarians who don't want anything set with

gelatine) or a side dish for meat (e.g. mint jelly with lamb) or used 

on scones etc.

I suspect if I researched it I would find  that muslin was involved in

straining the boiled bones when extracting gelatine for 'jelly', but

since I am a veggie I don't really want to go into that!<G>

Sally

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:00:58 -0800

From: Kathy Tavares <kmtavare@uci.edu>

Thank you Book Lady for the info regarding the Crazy Quilt book.  I believe

the one I'm thinking of is the one by Christine Dabbs.

Also, to the lady who gave the history on Russian quilting.  THANK YOU so

much.  I was never interested in history as a kid, but of late I've taken

on a new appreciation of history and how things have evolved to where they

are today. Thank you, again.

Kathy T.

Kathy Tavares

kmtavare@uci.edu

(949)824-6047

(949)824-2261 FAX

University of California, Irvine

Physical Sciences

Purchasing

172 Rowland Hall

Irvine, CA 92697-4675

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:15:21 -0800 (PST)

From: Jackie Joy <jjoy@med.unr.edu>

On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Sven Olsson wrote:

> This was a large hessian bag of Calico that was layered into the bag so

that it was in a cube.

Okay, besides German mercenaries who fought for the British in the

Revolutionary War, what's "hessian"?   Burlap?

Jackie Joy

jjoy@med.unr.edu

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:58:24 EST

From: Kathi2174@aol.com

To: jjoy@med.unr.edu

Jackie,

Good guess!  Fairchild's Dictionary, 1974 ed., pg. 281 "Hessian A name used in

the British Commonwealth, India and parts of Europe for burlap.  Uses: bags,

packing, carpet backing, etc., "

Kathi in Calif.

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:13:49 +0100

From: "Jean Baumgarten" <jean.baumgarten@wanadoo.fr>

>Who else on this list is in a different country other than the US?

>Maryjo Ordway

Hi Marijo

Thank you so much for this wonderful description of Russian quilting . I am

from France and love Russian culture (studied the language for 10 yrs in

school and university ) I enjoyed what you wrote a lot !

Daniele

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:07:51 -0700

From: Sven Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>

To: Jackie Joy <jjoy@med.unr.edu>

CC: qhl@cuenet.com

Jackie, It seem there are more "differences" than just calico and

muslin.

Yes I do believe Hessian and Burlap are the same thing.

Lorraine in Oz

Jackie Joy wrote:

>

> On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Sven Olsson wrote:

>

> > This was a large hessian bag of Calico that was layered into the bag so

> that it was in a cube.

>

> Okay, besides German mercenaries who fought for the British in the

> Revolutionary War, what's "hessian"?   Burlap?

>

> Jackie Joy

> jjoy@med.unr.edu

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:43:12 -0600

From: "Gail Richter" <richter2@frontiernet.net>

Hi,

I don't know about the bearding, but I do know that a local wool carder

encloses wool bats in cheesecloth.   I thought that it was for ease in

handling, but I may be wrong about that.  I do know that it makes it

easier to take the cover off of comforter and wash it & then put the

batt back in.

Gail R

in snowy NE Wis.

>

> I have heard of cheesecloth being used in quilting.  From what I

> understand a layer of cheesecloth over polyester batting and under

the

> quilt top will help to stop bearding.  This is hearsay.  I've never

> known anyone who did it, and I have no idea if the results would be

as

> advertised.

> Judy in Ringoes NJ

> judygrow@blast.net

>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:42:46 +0300

From: "John Ordway" <ordway@glas.apc.org>

To: <QHL@cuenet.com>

Cc: "Fred Krage" <krage@erols.com>

Hi All - I spoke to my friend who used to be here with me yesterday; I hope

she'll be writing an article in a leading quilting association magazine

about quilting in Russia.  She was the one who was the driving force between

American and Russian quilters when she was here before, and made me aware of

at least 2 or 3 errors in my "report" to you.

The town is Ivanova, not Ivanovna.  The American art quilter is Marilyn

Henrion, not Marion, and she's been to Russia twice.

Anyway, I hope my friend will get the article done - she was great, traveled

to people's homes (easier said than done), taught Russian quilters while

barely speaking any Russian - you know, a perfect person just like the rest

of us!! <g>  Seriously, we are wonderful people.  I told her about this list

and hope that she'll join in.

Maryjo

Moscow, Russia

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:12:34 +0800

From: Kath Balfour <balfourk@echidna.id.au>

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Forgive me, I know this is not about quilting heritage, but it might keep

you all amused for awhile.

From "An American Sampler", a cookbook published by the American Women's

Club of Perth, Australia, 1986.

______________

American                Australian

biscuit                 scone

cookie                  biscuit

scallion, green onion   spring onion

eggplant                auberine, eggfruit

beet                    beetroot

corn                    sweetcorn

endive                  chicory

rutabaga                swede

swiss chard             silverbeet, spinach

spinich                 english spinach

all purpose flour       plain flour

whole wheat flour       wholemeal flour

cornstarch              cornflour

cornmeal                polenta, maize meal

powdered sugar          icing sugar

granola                 meusli

candies                 lollies

gelatin, jello          jelly

dessert                 sweets

ground meat, hamburger  mince

potato chips            crisps

french fries            chips

popsicles               icy poles

fruit with a pit, peach

-apricot, plum          stone fruit

broil                   grill

cheesecloth             muslin

cookie cutters          pastry cutters

bowl                    basin

to which I will add:

muslin                  calico

burlap                  hessian

eraser                  rubber

_________________

Americans (and Spanish speakers) are sometimes taken aback when on hearing

words and names pronounced literally: Like the guy on national radio named

John Juan (pr. Joo-ahn), Aussie women called Juanita (pr. Joo-ah-NEED-a)

and Jacinta (pr.Ja-SIN-ta); we often have lunch on the patio (pr.

PAY-show); and, of course, there is the Chihuahua dog (pr. Cha-HOO-a-HOO-a).

That's all folks, back to quilting! Byeee!

Kath Balfour,

Yankee, transplanted & totally Aussified.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:13:22 -0000

From: "Sally Ward" <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk

Do you really call spring onions scallions?  My 'broad accented' Geordie

grandmother, raised near turn of the century Newcastle amongst coal

miners, always called them scallions.  When I use the word amongst

non-geordies they don't know what I mean.

When a teenager I had an American pen-friend stay.  We took her all over

London sight-seeing, and whenever we asked 'what next' she said 'I don't

care' - which we found very rude.  Much later I realised she was being

polite and meant 'I don't mind in the least, whatever suits you' - what

we were hearing was 'I really don't give a d**m, this is very boring.

Sally, UK

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:15:25 -0600

From: Russell-Hill <russhill@ctesc.net

Hi Sally,

Well I have always called the spring onion scallions.  I have never know

the difference and I do believe that a lot of us do the same.  I know

that scallions are sold in the food markets here all year.  They are the

very first little onions and if you let them grow they will turn into

onions.  These are the seeds not the sets.

Now I have to tell you I think that is an American teenage thing.  My

Granddaughter who is now just 10 has picked up "I don't know and I don't

care"  I could scream when I ask her if she wants something or wants to

do something and I get that for an answer.  It is just easier to say

that instead of making a decision.  It isn't being rude it is being

lazy.  In the case of your friend I don't know what it was.  I remember

it being a lazy teenager thing. A stage and I will be glad when DGD gets

out of it, then it will be DGS turn.  I am glad there are only two.

Debbie, who grow up in New England and had a father who was from London.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:02:26 +0000

From: Shirley McElderry <tigersoup@lisco.net>

In a 1930's M.W. Savage mail order catalog, lambs wool battings were

covered with cheesecloth. The advertisement read: "Full comforter size

pure lambs wool batts covered qith cheesecloth and tufted throughout.

Our best comforter filling. Can be removed from covering, laundered and

replaced without injury to the batting." The price:$3.98.

Cotton battings were sometimes covered with cheesecloth, too, and either

stitched or "tufted." These were the big heavy battings used for woolen

or flannel comforters. The idea for this cheesecloth covering was to

hold the cotton or wool batt securely in place; and not for keeping it

from "bearding."

And yes, I remember helping my Grandmother undo the ties and "unsewing"

one end to wash the batting and the covers of comforters. Most of the

time after this procedure, though, she replaced the covers. (And then

tacked a "whisker sheet" at the top.)

Shirley Mc in still snowy Iowa.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:01:00 -0500

From: June and Lyle Brandon <lbrandon@bellatlantic.net>

Sorry for the duplication but I didn't want to leave anyone out.  I am

compiling a list of quilt guilds in Maryland, Virginia, Delaware, and

Pennsylvania.  The purpose of my compiling this list is to exchange

information about mutually interesting quilt shows, quilting events, bus

tours and possible meetings.  If you belong to a quilt guild I would

appreciate receiving the following information:

Name of Guild

Contact Person (i.e. President, Secretary etc..etc..)

Postal Address

web page address if you have one

email address

meeting day and time

meeting place

Thank you for your help.  When I have the list compiled I would be more

than happy to share it with anyone who is interested.  Thank you.

June Brandon

--

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:46:43 -0700

From: Sven Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>

AAAHHHH!!!

I have an Amish tied quilt with one of these comforter batts inside!

How exciting!!! I am pretty sure it is a cotton batt. There is an

unstitched section about 4 inches long along one edge of the quilt where

I have been able to look in.

I really should describe the rest of the quilt now too.

It is  made up of clothing fabrics in wools and some rayon. The fabrics

are dark green, black, navy, and deep red wools in nine patch strips,

with the same dark wools mixed with a deep watermelon(almost terracotta)

and a red voille(sp) in four patch strips. The nine patches run down the

centre with the four patches on either side. They are separated by plain

strips of wool suiling. The fine red voille squares give the impression

of being a worn fabric, until close inspection, because the batt is

quilte visible through the top.It is not in perfect condition, and there

have been a couple of recent mends, but it is a fabulous example of

fabrics and gives a little insight into the 30s.

The backing is stripped in a mixture of brown, navy, black, and tan

fabrics. The only patterned piece of fabric in the whole quilt is on the

backing and it is a strip of deep blue with a fine white overprint. The

quilt is tied with red tufts.

I bought this quilt about 2 years ago for almost nothing, and when it

arrived here I just fell in love with it. It is the sort of quilt that

"speaks" to me.

Thanks for the information

Lorraine in Oz

Shirley McElderry wrote:

>

> In a 1930's M.W. Savage mail order catalog, lambs wool battings were

> covered with cheesecloth. The advertisement read: "Full comforter size

> pure lambs wool batts covered qith cheesecloth and tufted throughout.

> Our best comforter filling. Can be removed from covering, laundered and

> replaced without injury to the batting." The price:$3.98.

> Cotton battings were sometimes covered with cheesecloth, too, and either

> stitched or "tufted." These were the big heavy battings used for woolen

> or flannel comforters. The idea for this cheesecloth covering was to

> hold the cotton or wool batt securely in place; and not for keeping it

> from "bearding."

> And yes, I remember helping my Grandmother undo the ties and "unsewing"

> one end to wash the batting and the covers of comforters. Most of the

> time after this procedure, though, she replaced the covers. (And then

> tacked a "whisker sheet" at the top.)

> Shirley Mc in still snowy Iowa.

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:24:28 -0600

From: "Gail Richter" <richter2@frontiernet.net>

To: <russhill@ctesc.net>

Cc: <QHL@cuenet.com>

Subject: Re: QHL: Scallions and 'the space between words' - NQR

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> Now I have to tell you I think that is an American teenage thing....

  It is just easier to say

> that instead of making a decision.  It isn't being rude it is being

> lazy. 

Hi

I wouldn't say that it's laziness, necessarily; sometimes it's

deferring to someone else's preferences.  When I was a teen my

girlfriend's mother would say "if you don't care, I don't care either"

so if you really wanted something you had to definately say so.

Gail R

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:36:55 -0600

From: Mary Waller <mswaller@iw.net>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

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The Journey museum in Rapid City, SD, did its first quilt documentation

project last fall.  Thirty-two quilts included in the documentation

will  be on display March 6 until sometime in May.  There may be one or

more Saturday lectures or panel discussions scheduled.

A friend is in charge of preparing a brochure for the exhibit, and asked

for help finding an old photo of women quilting that could be used in

their brochure.  An on-line source would be optimum, but suitable photos

from any source would be welcome; I think she's getting pretty

desparate.  E-me and I'll pass on the info.  Thanks!

Mary Waller, Vermillion, SD

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:39:53 -0500

From: Miklos Lukacs <mlukacs@webbernet.net>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: QHL-"I don't care"

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When my children were growing up, I used to answer this remark with

I don't care either and it is easier if I do nothing, so I guess you do

not get anything.  When I would offer a pop to their friends and the

child would say  I don't care, my children would say-  No you have to

care with my mom or you don't get anything.  The recent thread made me

laugh as I am now saying the same thing to grandchildren.  Connie L.

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:24:19 +0300

From: "John Ordway" <ordway@glas.apc.org>

To: <QHL@cuenet.com>

Subject: QHL: Naming Quilts?

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More food for thought:  does anyone have any ideas about how/when the

practice of naming quilts came about?  I mean giving a finished quilt a

"title" rather than just "nine-patch" or whatever.

That's what I was thinking about last night before I went to bed - a friend

of mine is trying to send me an attachment on the computer that I couldn't

open.  The name of her quilt is "Hot Tamale" which I love!

Maryjo

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:24:35 EST

From: @aol.com

A friend of mine horrified her English host family during a college visit when

she said she'd just wear her "knickers" downtown on a Saturday museum tour.

She meant "knee pants."  Her hosts thought she meant underwear.

Another difference that caused problems was when her host father, who had to

be at work early, asked if he could "knock her up" before he left for work.

He meant knocking on the door of her room, never knowing that "knock up" is

American slang for "get pregnant." 

We should all be glad that the basic grammar and vocabulary is still the same,

or we'd be at war again....:)

Karen Evans

Easthampton, MA

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:09:20 EST

From: Tmauvlus@aol.com

To: mswaller@iw.net, QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: photo for brochure

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In a message dated 1/14/99 11:38:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, mswaller@iw.net

writes:

<< A friend is in charge of preparing a brochure for the exhibit, and asked

 for help finding an old photo of women quilting that could be used in >>

Most of you are probably aware of this, but for those who are not, actually

finding  early photographs with quilts in them is fairly difficult to do.

Many quilts were used as backdrops in family photos when photographers

travelled around to do business, occasionally a baby was propped up on one, or

a quilt might be on the grass for ladies to sit on - the same type of thing we

do today. 

My friend and fellow AQSG member, Vista Mahan, has spent years tracking these

down, and as far as recent info in the AQSG newsletter, still has just at 100

photos catalogued.  I send her photocopies of all those that I find.  LOL - in

7 or 8 years of digging thru literally thousands of old photos, I have found

two and a friend has sent me one.  I have one stereoscope card also.    Just

FYI - and to let you know that if you run across some, there are those of us

who are desperately searching for same.  Teddy in Florida

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:20:14 EST

From: Tmauvlus@aol.com

To: ordway@glas.apc.org, QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Naming Quilts?

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In a message dated 1/14/99 11:26:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ordway@glas.apc.org writes:

<<  does anyone have any ideas about how/when the

 practice of naming quilts came about?  I mean giving a finished quilt a >>

What a great question!  There are so many experts on this list, that I try not

to answer too often and embarrass myself, but my first thought - and it is

just that, a thought, no documentation or knowledge at all behind it -- is

that it probably became necessary with the advent of lots 'n lots of

publishing.

In other words, the ladies who ran cottage industries needed a way to

distinguish one pattern from another.  And Marie Websters quilts in Ladies

Home Journal were named - not only as a way to distinguish them for

publication, but also because she sold patterns/kits/etc.  I think many of the

very early American quilts were named later on in time for the same reason.

Even the Smithsonian needs an identifier for publication of photos, even tho

the Museum accession numbers are adequate for their own pruposes.  The

newspaper pattern designers who were so prolific in the 20's and 30's put a

name with the patterns they published.

Many of us today can't wait to name our quilts -- I love it!  Many times the

name comes to me before the quilt -- sometimes during the making.

Occasionally, I have difficulty in naming a piece , but not often.

Coincidentally, I am really codgitating over the name of the one I am working

on now.  Even after they are officially titled, they always have a "nickname"

that we use here at home.   

Okay, TiGerSoup and Xenia - put me to shame here!      Teddy in Florida

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:05:50 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Pattern names

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Hi, Teddy and QHLers - What a challenge!  If I may be allowed some

disorganized thoughts, let me say that first - the question from Maryjo

distinguished between  "generic" names and what I see as "titles" for

quilts.  I think we started giving our babies titles when we started

entering  competitions and seeing our works published by magazines etc.;

we even see quilters designating a C in a circle, for copyright, after

their titles.

On the generic names, however, I think women have always had to have

some way of naming the patterns they were using, so they could

communicate about them.  While "my red and blue quilt" would work as an

identifier among friends who had seen it during construction, or on a

bed, that would not work well to describe it for someone who wanted to

copy it.

Godey's and other ladies' needlework magazines were naming patterns by

their geometric attributes (9 Patch) or by common identifiers (Mariner's

Compass) in the 1850s.  The Ladies Art Co. (St. Louis) had a pattern

catalog in 1898 with over 400 patterns identified by name and by

number.  The number system worked well because the buyer could look at

the design and recognize it visually, even if the published name was not

what the pattern was called in her area.

And that brings up the folkloric nature of pattern names - the idea that

women named patterns locally or regionally, and for familiar objects.

Look at the pattern that has 4 kite-shaped pieces meeting at their top

points, set with contrasting octagons.  That pattern is called

Hummingbird, Slave Chain, Texas Tears, Snowball, and probably has other

names as well.  Log Cabin, Straight Furrow, is obviously named for the

view out the kitchen window at freshly plowed fields in the spring, and

Log Cabin, Barn Raising, resembles a newly framed barn.  The examples

are legion.

Well, that's something to chew on!

Xenia

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:47:49 -0600

From: "Dee Stark" <dee@nf2g.com>

<<  does anyone have any ideas about how/when the

> practice of naming quilts came about?  I mean giving a finished quilt a >>

That is a great question!  I have no documentable proof in front of me, but

my instincts tell me that it is a fairly recent development.  It would seem

to be whenever textile work started to become recognized as *art*, and that

is still a battle being fought today.

BTW, most of my work seems to name itself, too.  It is usually about 1/2 or

2/3 of the way through, and then it starts to display its own personality.

Purpose seems to help too.  I had a commission that was delivered right

after Thanksgiving, a crazy quilt piano scarf that was going to take up

residence on a Grand Piano in a formal living room, done with lots of

vintage materials.  That came to be called "Victorian Rhapsody".  A

fireplace mantle cover done in cool blues, whites, and silver that was "Fire

and Ice".

I hope someone has some actual facts about this.  If not, maybe it is a call

for research?????

dee

mailto:dee@nf2g.com

Victorian Handcrafts

http://www.nf2g.com/vh

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:52:04 -0000

From: "Sally Ward" <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk

Thought you might be interested in the origin of 'knock you up' meaning

to wake you.

In the days of the mill towns when all the workers had to be at their

looms early and clocks were an expensive luxury, the 'knocker-up' would

walk the streets at the appropriate hour with a long stick to knock on

windows and wake everyone for work.

Honest!

Sally

PS.  I am disappointed to find out that my American 'I don't care'

penfriends may indeed have been being rude after all!!!!  All this time

I thought I was misjudging her....<G>

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:58:05 EST

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:46:36 -0600

From: "Northern Onondaga Public Library - John Walter" <noplnsyr@dreamscape.com> (by way of "Kris Driessen, Hickory Hill Quilts" <oldquilt@albany.net>)

Dear Kris

My name is Dusty Gage, I'm here in CNY trying to design a crib quilt for a

dear friend from church for her future grandson.  I saw a tiny segment on

TV recently about a Prof Raymond Dobard/member of the Daughters of Dorcas

and Sons/who believes that there was a quilt code of 10 patterns used

during the days of the Underground RR.  If you would have any friends or

associates who would have any information on what these patterns were or if

you now have a catalog of patterns and templates and fabric that you could

send to me I would really appreciate it.  I was thinking of doing the

patterns on 16ct Aida and using them in the corners and edges and perhaps

one pattern for the main body.  I hope that someone will recognize this

interesting little bit of history that doesn't seem to be documented in the

books that  I've researched through our local library.  I think it would be

wonderful to create a queen or king size quilt with these patterns on it

but I don't know what 10 patterns were used.  Any information you have

would be sincerely appreciated.  Mia and I aren't getting any younger and

I'd like to make this before I need a REALLY big magnifying glass to work

with.  God bless and many thanks

        Desta Gage

        202 North Main St # 7]

        North Syracuse  NY  13212

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:15:37 -0600 (CST)

From: Marcia Kaylakie <marciak@eden.com>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Paducah

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Hi All,

I just had to write and say how excited I am because I got confirmation for

all of my classes for Paducah! This will be my first time to go. I also do

have my lodging set due to the kindness of some of our members, thanks so

much!!

Since I will have a limited time to view the exhibits area, can anyone tell

me what would be the best method for doing this? Now I know that this is

like saying, "what shall I view at the Louvre?" but I have only a little

while. Plese reply privately and I will summarize for the group , if

necessary. I may be the only *novice* in the bunch, though. Hope I will be

able to meet and see some of you that I only know by the list. Marcia

Kaylakie, Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:31:16 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

To: Marcia Kaylakie <marciak@eden.com>

CC: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: re: Paducah

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To Marcia and anyone else going to Paducah, 2 words:  MAKE TIME!  This

is just a great show, and there is no way you can go and NOT try to see

it all.

There are 3 main quilt venues, with 3 vendor areas, in the Executive Inn

- the main ballroom, downstairs below it off the bus lobby, and clear at

the other end of the building, in the rec area next to the pool.

Quilts/garments in all 3 areas, with vendors around the perimeter.  (I

am poolside, under the trees - Legacy Quilts).  Blatant plug!

In addition, there have been at least two AQS-sponsored vendor areas

away from the  hotel - the Kentucky Oaks Mall (fortunately open later

than the main show) and a mall area downtown (walking distance - 5

minutes from hotel).  Then there is the MAQS museum - a "can't miss"

area.  Then there is the Rotary building show, 10 min. by shuttle, which

also runs to all these other places.  Then there are all the antique

shops and auxiliary quilt shows and vendor areas downtown, open late.

Then there is the great Farmers' Market and Food Stands area in the

parking area adjacent to the MAQS museum.  How could you consciously

choose to skip any of these?!

 - And I probably missed listing something, too.  Seriously, try to find

time to see it all, even if it's a 20 mile an hour tour!  You can always

sleep on the bus, or plane, or whatever.

Xenia

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:13:03 -0500

From: "Dee Stark" <dee@nf2g.com>

Maury commented:

>We have always named things!  How else can we communicate??

True, but I think this is a bit different.  Like the difference between

naming a quilt pattern and naming a piece of art.  Which is what I thought I

was talking about, although that might not be so :-)

For example:  Oil painting by Picasso conveys generically what he did.  But

saying "Self Portrait" by Picasso is a particular piece of art.

So although I do lots of crazy quilting, not all my pieces are named.

Does that make sense?

dee

mailto:dee@nf2g.com

Victorian Handcrafts

http://www.nf2g.com/vh

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:20:35 EST

From: JBQUILTOK@aol.com

To: xecord@netusa1.net, QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: re: Paducah

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I'm going to try to drive to Paducah this year - I'll be staying as far out of

town as I can & still drive in. (I'm a VERY early riser when I'm on the road!)

My question is:  how's parking? Is it possible to find anything downtown?

Does the shuttle run out to the mall?  And is it safe to leave a vehicle out

there?

Anyone with some experience got any advice?  I went to the museum there once

the weekend AFTER the show and heard all kinds of stories about the crowds.

Janet

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:33:39 -0600

From: Valerie Davis <vpse@globaldialog.com>

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  Could some members of the discussion list please give their

recommendations on good appraisal books, (or chapters in books) on

appraising quilts?  I have a dear friend (80yrs.+) who wants to sell

about 12-15 of her mother's hand stitched quilts and wants to know what

to sell them for.(c.1960-1980's)  I know something about appraising and

I do quilt but don't feel knowledgeable enough to advise her without

some expert help.   Thanks,  Valerie

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