Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:41:12 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

Hello from ice laden Northern, VA!

The Virginia Quilt Museum, Harrisonburg, Va, had a "world premiere" exhibit of

of Russian quilters intitled, "Three Perspectives: Contemporary Russian Fiber

Arts" 7 Feb 1998 through May 18, 1998. I happened to catch it on my way down

through the Shenandoah Valley to do research in NC April 1998. Three artists

were featured: Natasha Muradova, who is known for her tapestry and theater

curtains and whose work is displayed in the Kremlin Palace; Ludmila

Uspenskaya's, whos fiber art involves the use of fabric collage in vibrantly

colored contemporary pieces; and Ludmila Aristova, who is known for her

couture fashion designs. Aristova's work is very much inspired by Russian folk

traditions. The signature of her work is said to be the "ashberries" she adds

somewhere in most of her work. Much of the fabric she uses was produced by a

very complex method, according to the show notes, at a Russian factory that

ceased production in the 1980's. She considers her quilts as a way of

preserving these beautiful textiles that are apparently no longer being

manufactured, and they are gorgeous! She had a few items in the museum gift

shop for sale that I was fortunately enough to add to my collection. After

leaving Harrisonburg, the show went on to Tokoyo, Japan, for World Quilt Fest

'98.

The guest curator in Harrisonburg was Yvonne Forman. I can't lay my hands on

the exhibit catalogue at the moment, in spite of ransacking my files tonight!

But in it is a biography of each of the artists. If anyone is interested,

contact me personally and I'll eventually dig it up.

Karen B. Alexander

AQSG Member since 1981

Research Focus: Quilts of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia;

Shenandoah, Page and Rockingingham Counties

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:34:03 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

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Hello again. Wow, two posts from me in one week amazing! I'm usually just

lurking, playing catch-up like mad since I travel so much!!

I am doing genealogy AND quilt research right now on a diary written by a

woman of Page Co. VA, in 1869 as she went about the daily chores of caring for

a family. In it she says, "I finished my tulip quilt."  Also "Gid sewed at

Willie's shirt & I at commencing a flower basket quilt." Also "Gid and I sewed

at my linsey quilt."  Sounds to me like she was "naming" her quilts in the

generic sense that Xenia suggested in her post.

It was really exciting when my father pointed out the publication to me just

this fall. The diary was published in 1984 and contains not only many

references to quilting, but also the name of my great grandfather and his two

brothers, several times. I felt like I had hit a jack pot!

Karen B. Alexander,

Researching Shenandoah Valley Quilts

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:45:58 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

RE: I have a dear friend (80yrs.+) who wants to sell

about 12-15 of her mother's hand stitched quilts and wants to know what to

sell them for.(c.1960-1980's) .

I sure would like to know what state the quilts are from. It is exciting to

hear about a "family of quilts" (i.e. made all by one quilter or one family)

that are for sale. I hope someone will photograph the quilts and "document"

them before they are sold so that there is a history of that "collection" for

posterity that can be given to a surviving family member.  Maybe a copy of the

documentation could be given to the State Research Project of the state or a

local quilt guild.

Karen Alexander

Researching the quilts of the Shenandoah Valley

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:14:02 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

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I was planning to drive to the Shenandoah Valley today with a friend to hear

Dobard speak at the Virginia Quilt Museum about his research on the

Underground Railroad, but he is recovering from some form of pneumonia, so the

lecture has been put off until next weekend.

Karen Alexander

Researching the quilts of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:36:19 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

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Thought maybe you all would enjoy this story. It's kind of long, so I will

present it in two parts.

On Dec 5. 1998, a quilt friend brought to my attention a photo that appeared

in the Washington Post the day before. I had not read the paper that day so

had missed it.  The caption read "Nice rugs! Sen. Daniel Inouye, center, with

Skip Hayward and Ted Turner in ceremonial wraps."  The blurb below went on to

read, "Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) and his rug were on hand Wednesday in New

York to help raise more than $1 million to benefit the National Museum of the

American Indian. Inouye auctioned off the Navajo rug that had been in his

office since 1987. Robert Hayward, a member of the Mashantucket Pequot Indian

tribe, spent $40,000 on the rug as a gift for his brother, Tribal leader Skip

Hayward. Also on hand were Ted Turned and Tom Brokaw, who hosted the evening.

The museum is set to open on the Mall in 2002."

Well, like my friend, I took one look at the photo and said to myself, "Those

aren't rugs. Those are quilts! Why did they call them  rugs?"

Soooo, the next morning I got on the phone and called the woman at the

Washington Post whose by-line was on the column. She called me back in about

two hours and told me that the photo had come from The National Museum of the

American Indian, and that she had gleaned the info from the accompanying press

kit (apparently).

I told her that the three men were wrapped in quilts, not rugs. From what she

said, I could patch together the fact that the press release she had received

had been about the rug being auctioned in New York, not about quilts, but the

photo sent to her was one of quilts, not the rug!  I don't think she

recognized the difference, or maybe didn't think it important enough. or have

the time to track down WHY the men were wrapped in quilts instead of rugs.

BUT, she did give me the name and phone number of  the Dir. of Public Affairs

for the Museum.

I left a message with his office, identifying myself as a quilt researcher.

He called and left a rather long message. I called him back again and was able

to speak to him directly this time, and got a few more questions answered, and

another phone number to continue my sleuthing: who made the quilts, what were

their colors and size, and why were they each of these men wrapped in a quilt?

(to be continued)

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:22:04 -0800

From: "Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1san.rr.com>

To: Valerie Davis <vpseglobaldialog.com>

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Dear Valerie,

The best source is for her, or you, to contact an appraiser certified by

AQS.  They have been tested on all aspects of the appraisal of quilted

textiles.  They will be able to advise and help you.  An appraiser near

you will be knowledgeable on the market in your locale.

You may contact me and I can give you the names of appraisers near you

or you may contact AQS for a listing also.

Good luck,

Julia Zgliniec

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:35:56 -0800

From: "Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1san.rr.com>

To: KareQuiltaol.com

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Dear Karen and QHL

You not only hit the jackpot but I would say you hit the "Grandmother

Lode".  Forgive the pun.

I too, have taken up genealogy research in the last year or so.  To have

an ancestor's diary is a prize and with references to the quilts she

made makes it absolutely priceless on many levels.

Are the quilts still in your family?

The reference to" linsey" quilt is interesting.  I wonder if she was

referring to the cotton/ linen home woven textiles described by Merikay

Waldvogel in her Tenn. research? What part of VA is Page co?

Regards,

Julia

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:21:40 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

You mean that you will be in the "hands of the experts" and you solicite

suggestions from the "masses"<G>

In otherwords.....there is no easy way....but we'll teach you how to do the

Paducah Shuffle.....that's a MUST <VBG>

Laura

At 03:15 PM 1/15/99 -0600, Marcia Kaylakie wrote:

>Hi All,

>I just had to write and say how excited I am because I got confirmation for

>all of my classes for Paducah! This will be my first time to go. I also do

>have my lodging set due to the kindness of some of our members, thanks so

>much!!

>Since I will have a limited time to view the exhibits area, can anyone tell

>me what would be the best method for doing this? Now I know that this is

>like saying, "what shall I view at the Louvre?" but I have only a little

>while. Plese reply privately and I will summarize for the group , if

>necessary. I may be the only *novice* in the bunch, though. Hope I will be

>able to meet and see some of you that I only know by the list. Marcia

>Kaylakie, Austin, TX

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:30:17 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

To: JBQUILTOKaol.com, xecordnetusa1.net, QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: re: Paducah

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Janet, Karen Erlandson and I stay out of town in a private home....takes us

about 20 minutes to get to the convention center.  GO EARLY!!! You can

always find somewhere for breakfast or coffee around the convention center

and town.

The stories about the crowds are **ALL TRUE**.  We get into town early in

the week, see all the shops, vendors down town when they are just opening

and save the show for the preview/first day....then hit the road on Sat or

so.....only problem with that is if you plan to stay and take classes. That

extends your stay with the masses. 

I'm not sure about a shuttle.Xenia, do you know for sure?....I don't think

that there is one..but I could be wrong. We just always take our car so we

can go at our own pace.

Oh and about Leagcy Quilts....great place to shop <G> Karen got a wonderful

red & green quilt with a charter oak border from there last year (yes

another blatant plug!!<G>)

Laura

In N. Texas where it's to be 70+ today...and my daffodils are starting to

come up.

At 09:20 PM 1/15/99 EST, JBQUILTOKaol.com wrote:

>I'm going to try to drive to Paducah this year - I'll be staying as far

out of

>town as I can & still drive in. (I'm a VERY early riser when I'm on the

road!)

>My question is:  how's parking? Is it possible to find anything downtown?

>Does the shuttle run out to the mall?  And is it safe to leave a vehicle out

>there?

>

>Anyone with some experience got any advice?  I went to the museum there once

>the weekend AFTER the show and heard all kinds of stories about the crowds.

>

>Janet

>

>

>

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:55:07 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecordnetusa1.net>

Yes, there is a continuous shuttle, runs in a loop from the main show to

the Rotary to the Ky Oaks mall to the downtown and MAQS museum and back

to the hotel - or something like that.

Xenia

(PS. Laura, thanks for the plug!<G>)

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:34:28 -0500

From: Lynn Cupp <lcupperols.com>

To: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

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A charter oak border?  Can you describe what that is, Laura?  Thanks.

Debbie  Cupp

Laura Hobby Syler wrote:

> Oh and about Legacy Quilts....great place to shop <G> Karen got a wonderful

> red & green quilt with a charter oak border from there last year (yes

>

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:56:57 EST

From: MKSQUILTSaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

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I was so glad to see recent talk of how patterns got their names.  A friend's

granddaughter is doing a report and she asked me if I knew the history of

several block names.  I was not able to help her but thought maybe I could get

some help here.  The patterns are roman stripe, sparkle, 9 patch, pinwheel,

and adjacent square. 

I have been reading this list for several months and totally enjoy it. Thanks

in advance for your help.

Merry Kay

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:34:14 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

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Well, since Karen keeps the quilt "under lock and key"<G> and she lives 60+

miles north of me...I''d better let her do the describing.....it is an

applique border , "somewhat"similar to the one on page 130 of the "Quilt

Engagement Calendar Treasury" by Nelson and Houck  c.1982

...Xenia can probably give more information on it......

Hit it gals.....

<VBG>

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:58:16 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net

Hi Merry Kay,

If you get private answers, would you please post them to the list. This

kind of information is *so much fun*!!!

The names that you've requested seem to me to be a description of the

geometrical shape....unlike Young Mans Fancy, Rose of Sharon, Brides

Bouquet, Whig Rose, Fifty Four-Forty or Fight and the like....Sparkle is a

good one, tho....wonder if anyone knows!  I do a lecture on quilt names and

how they relate to historical events and the way women use them to express

their political views....that's a fun one!!!

Many of the names that we use seem to have been solidified by the printing

of patterns in the Kansas City Star or by other pattern companies  However,

 in the KCS you will find some patterns repeated several times with

different names running  over several years time period.

(Ladies Art Co. just used design # 's---how aggrivating <G>) But it seems

that  the designers such as Ruby McKim,  Rose Kretsinger,Ann Orr felt that

naming their designs was necessary for publication (My how some things

never chang<G>)

...looking through my collection of KC Star pattern (600+) does anyone know

who "Fueline Foland" is???  "Her" ( I'm assuming here) signature is on many

patterns printed in the 1931-'32 era.......

Laura

LauraAt 01:56 PM 1/16/99 EST, you wrote:

>I was so glad to see recent talk of how patterns got their names.  A friend's

>granddaughter is doing a report and she asked me if I knew the history of

>several block names.  I was not able to help her but thought maybe I could

get

>some help here.  The patterns are roman stripe, sparkle, 9 patch, pinwheel,

>and adjacent square. 

>I have been reading this list for several months and totally enjoy it. Thanks

>in advance for your help.

>

>Merry Kay

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:18:00 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecordnetusa1.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

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The quilt Laura mentions, that Karen bought from me, is believed to have

been made in New York state; there is an undocumented story that trees

in the borders of quilts from northwestern New York state were "liberty"

trees and were an expression, by unenfranchized women, of support for

the abolitionist movement.  The trees in Karen's quilt (the quilt is red

and green) are in a muted cobalt blue print, appliqued, alternating pine

tree and oak tree shapes.  The oak trees resemble an oak leaf cutout,

with more lobes and a trunk.  The pine trees have spikier branches.

To fuel the "abolitionist" story, Karen's quilt has names, signatures,

and some symbols quilted into it on the white background fabrics of the

individual blocks.  There is a suggestion in those initials that the

quilt was a shared effort, perhaps made in support of a cause.  I hope

Karen will jump in here with more detail - I haven't seen that quilt for

nearly a year.   BTW, I am aware of another quilt with very similar

borders.

Xenia

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:12:40 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

AOL has not been letting me send mail today, hence the delay!

Buffalo Quilt Part II to QHL:

The Dir. of Public Affairs of The National Museum of the American Indian told

me that the Museum had commissioned the quilts from a quilter on the Crow

reservation in Montana, but he didn't have a phone number for her. However, he

gave me the phone number of the Crow Agency in MT. He also told me that the

quilts had been presented on December 2 to honor the three men in question:

Ted Turner was honored with a "Buffalo Quilt" for having the largest buffalo

herd in the world; Sen. Daniel Inouye was presented with a traditional Indian

veterans quilt in red, white, and blue; and Skip Hayward, as a Tribal chief,

was presented with a quilt in the colors of the Pequot nation. The Dir.

couldn't recall Inouye's quilt colors - except that there was yellow in it,

nor could he recall the colors in Ted Turner's quilt. He said the Post,

unfortunately, had inadvertently confused the issue of the Navajo rug that was

being auctioned with the quilt-giving ceremony by putting the caption they did

under the photo.

With the 1st lead he gave me in Montana, I called the Crow Agency. The man who

answered gave me still another number. The woman who answered that 2nd number

said the quilt maker did not work there, but she thought a woman working there

could help me find her. I tried the 3rd lead, but she wasn't in yet, so there

things stand :=)  About that time I left for Christmas in Portland, OR, and

nine wonderful days with my grandchildren and haven't done any further

research on this item since returning. But stay tuned.

 Hopefully I can find out something about the tradition of "honoring" through

the presentation of a quilt (each appears to be a Lone Star pattern)  and

learn something about the quilter at the same time. Then maybe I can get a

glossy photo from the Museum and write up a blurb for one of the quilt

publications! 

The Washington Post writer commented that she did not think the Post would run

a correction because she claims they ran the caption just as the Museum gave

it to them.

To be continued when I get back on the phone!

Karen Alexander

Member of AQSG since 1981

Research focus: Shenandoah Valley Quilts of Virginia

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:45:32 -0500

From: "Phyllis Twigg" <ptwiggradix.net>

Have you seen the new Miniature Quilts magazine ( #40) ? Find our own Barb

Garrett on page 12 in an article written by Nancy Roberts. Congratulations

on a fine presentation.

Phyllis Twigg

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:27:22 -0600

From: "knbright" <knbrightfullnet.net>

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Laura, I'm think that the Fueline Foland you found on your KCS patterns is

Eveline Foland.  I recently read about her in UNCOVERINGS 1984, AQSG

publication.  Louise O. Townsend tells about Mrs. Townsend in her research

paper "Kansas City Star Quilt Patterns.  Hope this helps.

Nancy Bright

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:48:40 PST

From: "Karen B." <txkareyhotmail.com>

Hello-

There are some very good web pages about quilt appraisal - perhaps many

of you already know.  A very informative one is at

http://quilt.com/appraiser, and it also links to some other related

pages, there is also a Frequently Asked questions for us to ask

appraisers at http://quilt.com/debbieroberts/appraiserfaq.html.

This faq link gives great questions for use when interviewing a

prospective appraiser - I recently hired an appraiser for several

quilts, and was greatful to have the resource.

Hope this helps Valerie.

Karey

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:50:12 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrowblast.net>

For Mary Waller -- have you thought of contackting the Bettman Archives (now

owned by what's-his-name from Microsoft) for the photos of people actually

quilting?  I used to get a lot of material from them when I was a researcher

for the Franklin Mint.  Just let them know what you are looking for, they

send you a few from the archives, you pick which one you want to use, send

the rest back, pay them (of course) and credit them in the publication.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrowblast.net

Where the ice seems to get worse each night after the day's melt.  We just

watched umpteen rescue vehicles and a medivac  helicopter for over an hour

just up the road at a dangerous curve right at a one lane bridge.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:56:39 -0700

From: Eileen Trestain <ejtrestainearthlink.net>

The secret to seeing the show at Paduacah is to do the downtown in the

morning and the Kentucky Oaks mall during the afternoon, and then going

to see the main show from about 3 to 5. By then, everybody else is worn

out, and gone home to rest and get ready for supper. If you eat a late

lunch, and a late supper, you miss the big crowds at the restaurants as

well as the crush in the show itself. Sunday afternoon is also a great

time to visit the main exhibits, as much of the crowds are driving back

home. Unfortunately, the wonderful things the antique vendors might have

had are often gone the first day. The main show on the first day is

often so crowded, it just takes my breath away. I don't even try the

mornings anymore. The shuttle system is great to get from downtown to

Kentucky Oaks and the Rotary club, and the museum. It's free, and runs

pretty regular. Most people fly in to somewhere else and drive, if they

come a long way. But parking the car and taking the shuttle is a good

plan, if you don't plan to stay out too late, or have someplace to be

five minutes ago, like the appraisers do. Sunday afternoon in Paducah is

very quiet, and the show is easy to see. That's why AQS offfers the

Sunday night stay at the Executive Inn. 

My class in Paducah on dating fabrics is already full, so if any of you

planned to take it, it's too late.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:52:42 -0800 (PST)

From: "John W. Kaufman" <incentiveearthlink.net>

Dear Friends,

Sometime last year some one on the list mentioned recovering from Carpal

Tunnel Release surgery.  I am scheduled for the Endoscopic procedure this week.

If anyone has information or advice to share about this surgery, please

e-mail privately.

I have looked at several sites on CTS and RSI.

Thank you for your help and support.

Nancy Kaufman

Just as I Am, Arlington, VA

Vintage Fabrics & Linens, Lace, Patchwork, Collectible sewing items and

Thimbles.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:12:28 -0600

From: "Kris Driessen, Hickory Hill Quilts" <oldquiltalbany.net

Something is bothering me about the current thread - I am worried that we

may not be inadvertently perpetuating myths about naming quilts and quilt

blocks.  I don't doubt that quilts were referred to as "the blue quilt" or

the "flower basket quilt" (how else would you differentiate them?) but

would the quilts themselves have names, the way we name our quilts now? 

My perception is that quilts were the equivalent of cars - you had rust

bucket quilts and you had luxury quilts.  The luxury quilts may have been

named but I doubt the rust buckets were.   In fact, the early household

inventories I have read indicates that the quilts were simply numbered, as

were the rest of the linens.  I know quilts were used in the middle ages -

and earlier, I am sure, just called different names - but I find it hard to

believe that a Checkerboard Quilt was listed in a 1300's will since the

game wasn't invented until the 1700's. I think this may have one persons

translation of the will.

Someone refresh my memory please - was it Marie Webster's Quilts, Their

Story and How to Make Them that perpetuated the myth of Colonial Quilting?

Did she also refer to naming quilts? 

Has anyone read Prof Dobards book yet?  I am really curious to know if he

has documentation that (more than one) quilt was used in (more than one)

Underground Railroad Route. 

Sorry to be so suspicious sounding, I guess it is the Capricorn in me.

Kris

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:21:45 EST

From: Kathi2174aol.com

To: qhlcuenet.com

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 <A HREF="http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/">Home Page: American Memory from the

Library of Congress</A>

To the member looking for old pictures of quilters the above might be useful.

I was thrilled to find a number of depression era quilt and cotton related

photos at this site.  Great to print out.  Hope this helps.  I have no idea if

you'd need any permission to use them in a brochure.  Best not to lie to the

Government, eh?

Kathi just home from "Road to Calif." quilt show where I had the pleasure to

take fabric dating and appraisal classes with Sharon Newman.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:13:41 -0700

From: Eileen Trestain <ejtrestainearthlink.net>

While quilt pattern names such as Checkerboard and Mosaic have been

around since untold time ( I have seen a reference to a Checkerboard

quilt made out of silks, listed in a book, stating it was a will from

about 1300) I think naming of quilts is not as uncommon as we might

think. As appraisers, we ask quilt owners if the quilt has a family

name, and sometimes they do. Great Grandma's Rose quilt  may be a whig

rose, a rose of sharon, or any other rose pattern.  In the 1930's, the

TVA quilts had names, didn't they? You know, the ones which were so

pictorial in nature? How about Harriet Power's quilt? Did she refer to

her quilt as the Bible quilt? It was a variety of designed patterns,

none of which were commercially produced, but the whole quilt is

referred to now as the bible quilt. While their names may not have been

as poetically or artistically named, it was a way to differentiate

between one and another. Do Baltimore Album quilts have names, maybe

never recorded on the quilt, that never got passed along?  Reverend

so-and-so's presentation quilt. Cousin somebody's bride quilt. I think

maybe the names were there, just unrecorded on the quilt, and lost to

time. Hopefully, with our interest in history and in recording

provenance, perhaps our "names" won't get lost so easily.

Eileen

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:08:32 -0600

From: Mary Waller <mswalleriw.net>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Honor quilts

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Three faculty members at the University of South Dakota School of

Medicine received honor quilts a couple years ago from the Pine Ridge

Lakota tribe for their special efforts in helping med students from Pine

Ridge.  I worked for one of the recipients at the time and attended the

ceremony.  The quilts were Lone Stars in different color schemes; one or

two were shiny, satiny fabric, the other(s) were cotton.  They were

quilted on long-arm machines.  I don't recall that the different color

schemes or fabrics represented anything in particular.

What I know about the Lakota Honoring traditions could be put in a

thimble, although we do know that part of the honoring traditioning

comes in giving away and passing on the honor, rather than receiving a

possession.  We asked one of the Pine Ridge students what the recipients

were expected to do with their quilts, thinking the quilts were meant to

be passed on, rather than kept forever by the recipients.  The student

replied, "You can use them for saddle blankets if you want..."

The father of a Pine Ridge high school student who worked with me one

summer was killed in a car accident a couple weeks after the student

returned home.  Three of us went to the funeral, which combined

Episcopal and Lakota traditions.  The funeral was held in the high

school gym because Bessie's father had been on the tribal council and a

large crowd attended.  Quilts were hung around the gym, many Lone Stars

included.  As the funeral was ending, quilts were taken down and some

were put in an open buckboard wagon which would take the casket to the

cemetary.  There were several outriders waiting to accompany the casket

and quilts were draped across the hindquarters of the saddle horses.  We

didn't go to the burial, so I don't know if there was a 'give-away'

ceremony of any quilts, food, or the deceased's possessions later.

If asked to appraise a quilt that's an honor quilt, it seems almost

contradictory to add monetary value to it, but I'd feel that would be

necessary.  The idea of honor quilts and putting a cash value on one

seem to be diametrically opposed.  An interesting paradox of

'cross-cultural differences'.  I'd like to know what appraisers think

about this.

When I've asked about honor quilts and Lakota quilts, I don't get much

information.  So far, I've either asked the wrong people, because they

don't seem too interested in quilts or believe it's one of those common

things everybody must already know, or I'm asking in the wrong way.

Haven't figured out who or where or how to go about this.

Mary Waller, Vermillion, South Dakota

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:10:05 -0600

From: Quilting Heritage ListServ <qrsalbany.net>

Sorry, my last post was unclear.  I was referring to QUILT names, not quilt

block names.  For example, the pinwheel quilt I am working on now, I will

name Party Favors.  (QHL members who are also on QB will know why :-))

I don't doubt quilt blocks had names.  I am just not sure that we are using

the same name that the original maker did.   In 1860, when Sally in

Massachusetts sent her sister  Susie in Oklahoma a quilt block, did she

name it when she sent it?  Logic would say yes, but direct evidence is hard

to come by.

I have some very old Goddeys, Journals, Farmers Wife and other newspapers

as well as some early almanacs, diaries and store ledgers and I have YET to

accumulate any direct evidence.  I *do* have some late 19th century quilt

blocks with names pinned to them, but I have no evidence that the MAKER

named them.  It would seem equally possible that a descendant named the

block. 

I would love to hear from anyone who has an actual letter or document in

their possession! 

Kris

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:55:31 -0500

From: "Patricia L. Lyons" <72134.3643compuserve.com>

  Quilts are frequently used in honoring ceremonies by Native Americans,

especially among those of the Northern Plains.  Three wonderful quilt

resources about this:

  Pulford, Florence.  Morning Star Quilts: a presentation of the work and

lives of Northern Plains Indian Women.  Leone Publications, 1989.  ISBN

0-942786-00-9

  Parker, Linda.  Montana Star Quilts.  Montana Quilts, Inc., 1997.  ISBN

0-9659391-0-3

  MacDowell, Marsha L., ed.  To Honor and To Comfort: Native quilting

traditions.  Museum of New Mexico Press & Michigan State University Museum,

1997.  ISBN 0-89013-317-4

  The last book is a companion to an exhibition of the same name that was

at the MSU Museum this summer.  The curator and editor, Marsh MacDowell, is

on this list, I think.  The exhibition included a video of an honoring

ceremony for high school basketball  players - a very moving experience.

The MSU Museum under Marsha's direction has done considerable work over the

years documenting Michigan quilts and quiltmakers, including Native

Americans.  This work has fortunately spilled outside the state's

boundaries.   The exhibition was organized jointly by the MSU Museum and

the National Museum of the American Indian, a component of the Smithsonian

Institution, and will travel nationally.  Do try to see it if it is within

shouting distance of you. It includes all native groups including

Hawaiians.

  No affiliation, except a very satisfied exhibition attendee and devourer

of the book.

Pat Lyons

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:38:50 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecordnetusa1.net>

I suggested in my earlier post that there is a difference between quilt

names (pattern names) and titles ("Roses for Emily").  Could we use

those terms, or another set of terms, to be clear?  So we can all be on

the same page...

Xenia

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:29:47 EST

From: JBQUILTOKaol.com

<< (Ladies Art Co. just used design # 's---how aggrivating >>

Laura was mistaken about this.  My reprinted copy of the 1898 catalog had

names

with the designs.  The first listed was 'Ladies Beautiful Star'.  They called

several Mosaic # something.  I did Block of the Month for my guild using these

patterns.  Just wish I could remember where I put the catalog.....

Janet

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:48:57 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

To: QHLcuenet.com

For those within driving distance, the Dobard lecture about  the quilts of the

Underground Railroad will be Jan. 23 and Jan. 24.  The time and location are

the same -- 2 PM at the Virginia Quilt Museum, Harrisonburg, VA. I suggest

that you call ahead to let them know you are coming and to get directions.

Because of the cancellation of the previous week due to his health (and the

bad weather), I understand the lecture is going to be especially crowded

Saturday the 23rd. The 24th is still pretty open.  Call 540-433-3818.

Karen Alexander

Researching the quilts of the Shenandoah Valley

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:51:02 EST

From: KareQuiltaol.com

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Thanks, Merikay, for your suggestions and encouragement.  One person has told

me that she has wondered if the term "linsey" wasn't "sometimes" referring to

wholecloth quilts. Have you come across anything in your research to lead you

to believe that "linsey" might have more than one meaning or interpretation?

Karen Alexander

Researching the quilts of the Shenandoah Valley

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:10:50 -0600

From: "Gail Richter" <richter2frontiernet.net

In weaving linsey woolsey referred to a cloth made of linen and wool.

Gail R

in NE wis.

Have you come across anything in your research to lead you

> to believe that "linsey" might have more than one meaning or

interpretation?

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:41:34 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrowblast.net

>I've never heard of the Bettman Archives, but thanks for the idea.

>If you have a chance, can you explain a little more about the Bettman

>Archives?

Mary and all;

Following are excerpts taken from a number of internet sources to describe

photo archives and how they can be used.  I have no connection to any of the

archives or companies named in the paragraphs that follow, except to say

that I was a satisfied user of Bettman in the 70's when I worked for the

Franklin Mint, and DH made frequent use of the AP and UPI archives when he

worked as an artist for NBC Nightly News.

"Many organizations hold photographs -- libraries, archives, historical

centers, museums, and stock agencies (historical, advertising and

journalism). There are public sources such as The Library of Congress, The

National Archives, The Minnesota Historical Society, and the Slovak Museum;

and commercial picture agencies (stock agencies) such as The Bettman

Archive, Inc. (recently purchased by Bill Gates' Corbis Media), Comstock,

Inc., and Magnum Photos.

"Founded by Bill Gates in 1989, Corbis is developing the most comprehensive

digital collection of visual content in the world.  Commercial agencies like

Corbis are businesses that market and sell the rights to reproduction of

photographs and other visual material, often soliciting work from

photographers and artists.

"Libraries, archives, museums and stock agencies hold visual images from

significant newspaper collections -- rich with images that are valuable to a

wide range of researchers for a wide range of purposes.  The Bettman

Archive, for example, provides exclusive access to the Frank Driggs

collection of entertainment photography, valued as an important visual

history of jazz in the United States.

"Corbis has one million digital images, with the collection growing monthly.

Many of the digital images can be bought as posters through the Corbis

online store.  With the Bettmann collection,  Corbis has 16 million

historical and contemporary images in film and print.

"Corbis Media, which recently acquired the vast Bettmann Archive (16 million

images), contains over one million digitized images, most  available for

immediate use. Many of the digital images can be bought as posters through

the Corbis online store.

"Images are scanned on Scitex equipment, can be delivered online, on CD-ROM

or Syquest disk, and are available in file sizes of up to 20 megabytes.

Unlike the other services, Corbis encourages customers to phone staff

researchers and pay a search fee of $75, which is applied to licensing

charges. Usage fees are negotiated individually."

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrowblast.net

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:23:44 -0500

From: Debby Kratovil <kratovilhis.com>

t 8:29 PM -0500 1/17/99, JBQUILTOKaol.com wrote:

><< (Ladies Art Co. just used design # 's---how aggrivating >>

>

>Laura was mistaken about this.  My reprinted copy of the 1898 catalog had

>names

>with the designs.  The first listed was 'Ladies Beautiful Star'.  They called

>several Mosaic # something.  I did Block of the Month for my guild using these

>patterns.  Just wish I could remember where I put the catalog.....

>

>Janet

Janet and all. I'm glad you reminded me that I have several of these

reprinted catalogs from The Ladies Art Company! (I got them from Groves

Publishing in Kansas City, Missouri - they also have reprints of the Kansas

City Star patterns).But the names and patterns don't always agree. Now I

have some good leisurely reading and sluething for this afternoon... Debby

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:34:49 +0300

From: "John Ordway" <ordwayglas.apc.org

Judy - Ludmilla Aristova's  ash berries are so wonderful because she's had

lots of practice making them!  I was fortunate enough to meet here 2 or

three times while before she went to the US.  In fact, I found a baggie

yesterday with berries in it that she started me making.

 She just takes a spool top to use as her template,  cuts out a circle, uses

a slightly larger than 1/4" seam allowance, and with strong thread gathers

the circle in while stuffing it with more stuffing that you ever think

possible to stuff into that small amount of fabric.!!  The berries (as you

are working with the stuffing, gathering and shaping) have to rolled and

rolled in your palms to get a uniform shape.  It's harder than you think

doing the first 5 or so - you want them stuffed to the absolute maximum, but

you also want to be able to draw the thread in at the "bottom" so no

stuffing is showing.  The berries are hard because they are stuffed so much

and your palms do hurt after a while.

I imagine she and her sister used to spend hours on them.  I saw a quilt of

theirs made of squares, and each square had a lot of berries on it!  I

personally am nuts about ash berries on folk art items here and try and

collect what I can - schlock or not!

Maryjo

Moscow, Russia

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:18:38 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

In an 1882 needlework book linsey is refered to as "a coarse mixed

material of wool and flax...." "employed for dresses and skirts by the

labouring classes". Does this imply that it would not have been used for

fine quilts at this point in time? Since wholecloth quilts depend on the

quilting for their "patterns" wouldn't it have been difficult to quilt?

This is in reference only to this time period. I thnk if we're going to

discuss fabrics/weaves we need to establish a time period since their

meanings changed frequently.

Roberta

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:10:41 -0500

From: "jawhitecourant.infi.net" <jawhitecourant.infi.net

Just wanted to add my two cents worth to this thread re: Charter Oak

patterns.  I live in Connecticut and the state tree is the Charter Oak.

In 1663, the General Court of CT formally received the Charter from King

Charles II.  Twenty-five years later, England tried to steal back the

state charter and it was hidden in a hollow oak by Captain Joseph

Wadsworth - hence, the Ct Charter Oak.  So in this state, Charter Oak

means something entirely different.  But there seem to be many charter

oak patterns, but they all go back in history many, many year.  Here

(CT) the Charter Oak pattern is 'generally' an oak leaf and reel.

Judy White - Ct

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:52:06 EST

From: ZegrtQuiltaol.com

with reference to appraisals. Another great article on the subject appeared in

the IQA Journal summer,fall 1997 and is available for you to read on Shelly

Zegart's website.  There  was a seminar on appraisi ng

quilts with representatives from a number of highly qualified  national

appraisal organizations in the Fall of 1998 in Houston at Quilt Festival. More

of these will be scheduled in the future.

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:21:16 -0600

From: Opalka <mopalkaalaska.net

Someone had asked about old photos of quilters.  I have a

picture(somewhere) of my Great-Grandma Hannah standing in front of one of

her quilts.  It was taken in the early 1920's, I think.  Is this something

you would be interested in?  I could scan it for you.  Susan(in Alaska)

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:30:11 -0500

From: Peggy Notestine <notestine.11osu.edu>

To: QHLcuenet.com

     I have been enjoying all this talk about quilt names, etc.  and also

wish somebody on this list would read the "Hidden in Plain View" book and

give us a review.  I am very interested in hearing what people have to say

about this book.

        I also wanted to tell you that my younger sister has a large oil

painting of my great aunt quilting on a double wedding ring quilt.  Looks

sort of like a "Whistler's Mother" sp?  I have always wanted that picture as

the sister who now owns it, doesn't even quilt!...but was sort of named

after her.  All this talk has made me decide to take a nice photo of it when

I see my sister the next time.  I believe it was made in the 1950's.  The

painting was by her sister, my grandmother who lived in Lynchburg, VA and

New Bern, NC for most of her life.

        I plan on having a really nice portrait done of my children in the

Spring and the very first thing I was thinking about was which quilt to lay

out for them to sit on...I could really care less what the kids are wearing!

        And finally,  I have a question for those of you who quilt a lot.  I

am working on 1 of 2 baby quilts for a friend who had twins and I am using a

cotton batting and using 2 strands of embroidery floss while quilting this

with the big stitch technique (ie 4-6 stitches an inch instead of normally

twice that)  I have noticed that my quilting finger (right middle finger

from the knuckle to the proximal interphalangeal joint - you know, the part

where a ring would be!) gets quite sore after only about an hours worth of

quilting and even afterwards feels like its sore along the entire length of

the bone - I really need to get these quilts done and I have never had pain

like this before so it must be the combination of the the longer needle I am

using to hold the floss, the pushing of the thicker thread through the

fabric and the batting used.  What to do though for my finger, ice?, heat?,

combo?, some special rubbing technique that I could do?  Any suggestions

would be most welcome and I will pass the suggestions onto everyone in a

digested format once received if you would all be interested.  I just know

that there are professional quilter's on this list who must spend hours a

day doing this so I need to know their secret.  Thank you so much for any

help in this area.

Peggy in Columbus, OH

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:13:00 EST

From: QuiltFixeraol.com

bit

I keep finding Redwork Patterns that are varieties of Acorns and Oak Leaves.

I know that this is symbolic for something in our country's history and it

just keeps eluding me.  I have seen this on other quilts as well, Anyone able

to help me with information on this.  Toni b.

QuiltFixeraol.com

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:57:35 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

To: Debby Kratovil <kratovilhis.com

HMMMMMM, the catalog that I have, a reprint, just has pattern #'s

Guess Id better acquire some of the ones with names <G>

Laura

.....At 05:23 AM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote:

>At 8:29 PM -0500 1/17/99, JBQUILTOKaol.com wrote:

>><< (Ladies Art Co. just used design # 's---how aggrivating >>

>>

>>Laura was mistaken about this.  My reprinted copy of the 1898 catalog had

>>names

>>with the designs.  The first listed was 'Ladies Beautiful Star'.  They

called

>>several Mosaic # something.  I did Block of the Month for my guild using

these

>>patterns.  Just wish I could remember where I put the catalog.....

>>

>>Janet

>

>Janet and all. I'm glad you reminded me that I have several of these

>reprinted catalogs from The Ladies Art Company! (I got them from Groves

>Publishing in Kansas City, Missouri - they also have reprints of the Kansas

>City Star patterns).But the names and patterns don't always agree. Now I

>have some good leisurely reading and sluething for this afternoon... Debby

>

>

>

>

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:00:18 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net

Peggy, Welcome to the club <G>!  When you are "pushing" through so much

bulk..even if it is only 2 layers of the cotton batting, the needle doesn't

want to slide really easily and you are doing more pushing with that finger

than you are used to.  I have a couple of suggestions...

1) get one of those gloves (spandex with the fingers cut out) They will

give support to the muscles and help the fatigue that you are placing on

the joint.

2) You are essentially straining/spraining the muscle so alternate heat and

cold.

3) I use some wonderful stuff that they call  as "joint lubericant".(actual

name is Promotion, made by Advocare)..gulcosomine formulation....really has

helped a lot of people with arthritis and other joint problems.....my neck

doesn't hurt nearly as bad as it used to, nor my shoulder that I've

dislocated more times than I care to count~

Hope this helps,

Laura

....

noticed that my quilting finger (right middle finger

>from the knuckle to the proximal interphalangeal joint - you know, the part

>where a ring would be!) gets quite sore after only about an hours worth of

>quilting and even afterwards feels like its sore along the entire length of

>the bone - I really need to get these quilts done and I have never had pain

>like this before so it must be the combination of the the longer needle I am

>using to hold the floss, the pushing of the thicker thread through the

>fabric and the batting used.  What to do though for my finger, ice?, heat?,

>combo?, some special rubbing technique that I could do?  Any suggestions

>would be most welcome and I will pass the suggestions onto everyone in a

>digested format once received if you would all be interested.  I just know

>that there are professional quilter's on this list who must spend hours a

>day doing this so I need to know their secret.  Thank you so much for any

>help in this area.

>Peggy in Columbus, OH

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:01:22 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecordnetusa1.net>

The original catalogs from the Ladies Art Co. (the earliest seem to be

from the 1890s, although they bear inscriptions like "fourteenth

edition") have a number on each design, and then a numerical listing in

the back of the catalog with the pattern names. 

Xenia

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:25:18 -0500

From: "John and Cinda Cawley" <cawleyepix.net>

I've been interested in the Jefferson-Hemmings question for a long time

(since Fawn Brodie's book was published in 1974).  The recent DNA analysis

did not settle the question.  I am no expert so don't expect the terminology

to be correct, but the DNA marker used was one transmitted in the male line

(father to son to granson etc).  The sample for comparison to Thomas

Jefferson was taken from a descendent of Jefferson's uncle.  Note well that

the only child of Jefferson and his wife Martha who lived to have children

was their daughter  Martha (Patsy) Jefferson Randolph so there is no

descendent of Jefferson in the male line available for testing.  The

descendents of only one of Sally Hemming's children were found to have the

marker in question, but whether this child was fathered by Thomas Jefferson

or another member of the family  (I did read recently that at the relevant

time there were 23 adult male members of the extended family ) is still a

mystery.  No light has been shed on the paternity of Sally Hemming's other

children.

Cinda in Scranton

-----Original Message-----

From: aol.com <aol.com

>In a message dated 99-01-09 21:55:20 EST, you write:

>

><< The

> organization took some major flack in the 50's over refusing to allow a

black

> singer to perform in their building. >>

>

>Actually, it was the late 30's, and the singer in question was contralto

>Marian Anderson.  Eleanor Roosevelt stepped in and arranged for Miss

Anderson

>to perform on the Capitol steps.

>

>Ironically enough, several descendants of Sally Hemings got into the DAR in

>the late 70's because of the Thomas Jefferson connection.  The local DAR

>branch evidently accepted family lore before the DNA evidence proving the

>relationship.

>

>Karen Evans

>Easthampton, MA

>

>[Note:  I *could* join the DAR; a great aunt of mine did by proving descent

>from the same person, Captain Evan Evans of the Continental Army.  I've

never

>bothered.  Heaven knows I have enough to do....:) ]

>

>

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:10:43 PST

From: "Karen B." <txkareyhotmail.com

Was there a quilt related to the DAR thread regarding Thomas Jefferson's

geneology that I missed somewhere?  Just wondering.

Karey

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From: JQuiltaol.com

I, too, am skeptical about many of the myths/legends about quilts...I would

think that quilts were referred to by the name of the block that was used in

the quilt .ie Wedding Ring Quilt etc....

As for the whole Underground RailRoad quilt thing....I have

reservations(pardon the pun) about a lot of it...

jean

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:04:42 EST

From: JQuiltaol.com

If you plan on doing a lot of hand quilting...

go to CVS and buy a bag on latex gloves...cut off all of the fingers and put

one of the fingers on your thumb when you are quilting,for pulling the needle

and thread...better than any needle gripper...and you don't have to stop to

pick it up every time...

you can buy the glove...I use the top of two white ribbed socks on my wrist,

whenever I am at the computer of sewing...

then for soreness.....go to a natural food store and buy Arnica ointment/gel

and rub it on your wrist or wherver there is soreness/pain ..

Jean

jquiltaol.com

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:28:51 -0800

From: "Catherine Kypta" <vgercwnet.com>

Hello all, I too use gloves with no fingers, like Jean.  Also, I am not

giving medical  advice, but do any of you folks ever use DMSO for sore

fingers,  knees,  shoulders, etc?  It is not FDA approved in the US for

human use, but I used it alot when I was on the ranch on our horses which we

used for calf roping and such on their front legs.  It is available at the

feed store, and everyone I know who has tried it for arthritic type pain has

gotten relief, when other Rx's even anti-inflamatory meds don't work.  Worst

side effect I have had, is sometimes if  I have been using it for 4 or 5

days on my poor shoulder with bursitis,  I start to smell like garlic!!  I

have been  told it is used in England and Russia for treatment of arthritis,

etc.  Anyone else use this?

Catherine (yes that garlic smell is me!) in Sacramento

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:55:52 -0800 (PST)

From: bevquiltsprynet.com

I didn't know we were talking about appraisals again......I

have been away at Road to California for a the past days! If

anyone is interested in a simple article on quilt appraisals

I have written one, and it is in the issue of McCalls

Vintage Quilts that is now available from news stands and

magazine racks of grocery stores.  Bev. Dunivent

---

Beverly Dunivent

HTTP://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/bevquilt

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:47:45 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrowblast.net>

Just had to pass on my excitement.  We had a huge storm blow through here

late this afternoon.  DH says it was part of the system that killed 3 people

in Tennessee, and the weather channel says it was just short  of a tornado.

The two of us were in the studio (unfinished) when it blew in, and

it withstood the high winds and driving rain beautifully.  The structure is

so tight that not a whisper of draft was felt!  A candle flame wouldn't have

flickered at all.

The staircase will be tackled in a week, after preliminary work is done on

the ballusters.  They and the bannister are from architectural salvage, from

buildings that didn't have to come up to any building codes.  Code says the

bannister has to be 34 inches high, minimum.  Well, ours are 31" at the

front of the step, 34" at the back.  We are hoping the building inspector

will let it pass, but we have a contingency plan, just in case.

Also the little powder room under the stairs.  Code says there has to be so

many inches clearance in front of the toilet.    The space in there is so

limited, we are going to have to ask for a variance, and hope the inspector

is kind-hearted.  If not, no toilet, and Allan will have to run back to the

house for the necessaries.

I found out today that the rescue vehicles and med-evac helicopter a few

houses down the road on Saturday night were for a car with 4 teenagers which

ran into a utility pole.  That was the thunk I heard.  One girl was

helicoptered out, with ruptured spleen and other life threatening injuries.

We are heading into NYC tomorrow to go to a couple of museums.  I hope I can

talk Allan into letting me stop at  "Julie:Artisan's Gallery" on Madison

Ave. to look at the incredible art quilts and sweaters I saw in our hurried

visit before Christmas.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrowblast.net

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:36:48 -0500 (EST)

From: JOCELYNMdelphi.com

   >different names - but I find it hard to believe that a Checkerboard

   >Quilt was listed in a 1300's will since the game wasn't invented until

   >the 1700's. I think this may have one persons translation of the will.

Kris,

     Chess and 'draughts' both existed in the Middle Ages. Probably the word

used in the will referred to those games, but was translated 'checkerboard'

since that is the more common term today. 'Chessboard quilt' just sounds

funny, doesn't it? <G>

   > Sorry to be so suspicious sounding, I guess it is the Capricorn in me.

     So far as I know, I have no planets in Capricorn. I'm STILL skeptical.

<G>

Jocelyn

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:56:26 -0800 (PST)

From: Pamela Robersson <quiltcollectoryahoo.com>

To: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: QHL: appraiser info

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I have been on and off the list, but have been getting forwards from a

friend on those she feels I would have interest in.

I have checked into all of the information regarding

appraisals/appraisers that has been suggested over the past week or

two.  Even the McCalls magazine article...all the information was

good...however, if you don't have a lot of time, IMHO, the FAQ page

that was suggested by txkarey was the best in helping someone find a

knowledgable appraiser.  In case you missed the address, it was:

http://quilt.com/debbieroberts/appraiserfaq.html to be the most

helpful. 

Thanks Karey for sharing it with us.

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:07:17 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

To: Pamela Robersson <quiltcollectoryahoo.com>, QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: appraiser info

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Pam,

That page and *wonderful* web site are the production of our "unofficial"

official spokesperson, Deborah Roberts.<G>  Deb does a wonderful job

connecting the 55 AQS certified appraisers with those in our area are that

contact her via the internet.  Most all of us will accept appraisals

through the mail (with appropriate/available provenance attached) and all

of us are available to consult with each other in our field of

specialization.  There are many other people out there appraising without

the AQS certification, but having received my certification last

year--after having done appraisals for 20 years on my own--I'm glad that I

have a support team and source of reference materials when presented with a

challenging quilt.  Deb does give a thorough but conscise explination of

the process and the need for appraisals.

Laura Syler

AQS Appraiser

Pres. Vintage Quilt & Textile Society

At 10:56 AM 1/19/99 -0800, Pamela Robersson wrote:

>I have been on and off the list, but have been getting forwards from a

>friend on those she feels I would have interest in.

>

>I have checked into all of the information regarding

>appraisals/appraisers that has been suggested over the past week or

>two.  Even the McCalls magazine article...all the information was

>good...however, if you don't have a lot of time, IMHO, the FAQ page

>that was suggested by txkarey was the best in helping someone find a

>knowledgable appraiser.  In case you missed the address, it was:

>

>http://quilt.com/debbieroberts/appraiserfaq.html to be the most

>helpful. 

>

>Thanks Karey for sharing it with us.

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:15:51 -0500

From: Vivien Lee Sayre <vsayrenesa.com>

To: "Quilt History List" <QHLcuenet.com>

Subject: QHL: Backstitching

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Hello All,

How many of you backstitch a seam when you are hand piecing a block? A few

years ago, while taking a course in Paducah, a group of us were examining a

quilt top. One of the participants from the Midwest commented on the

backstitching that was evident in this work. This is a method using a

regular running stitch, but backstitching at various points to insure the

strength of the seam. Not only had she not seen this method before in quilt

piecing, she had never heard of it. The question about backstitching was

posed to the rest of the class. Those from the Midwest and some from the

West had not seen this method of piecing used before. I don't have any

information about the South.

I was reminded of this recently while taking apart a damaged block that

contained 1886 cheater cloth. It had backstitching in the middle of each

seam. The block came from the New England area. If you have a chance, would

you think about the questions below and e-mail your responses to me. This

has really got my curiosity buzzing.

1. What part of the country are you from and where do you live now?

2. Do you use the backstitch?

3. If not, have you ever heard of backstitching in a block? 

4. If so, who taught you?

5. Have you ever seen the backstitch used in quilts?

6. If so, what is the origin of the maker?

7. What about other countries, do you use backstitching?

There a lots more questions that could be asked about this. From what I

have seen thus far, it appears this method was, and still is being used for

hand piecing in the Northeast. Where did it originate, I have no idea. Many

of the quilt tops we have documented contain the backstitch. I know it is

still being taught here because it is the method I was instructed to use by

my first two quilt teachers. I would love to hear from you if you have a

chance.

Vivien In Massachusetts

vsayrenesa.com   

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:31:51 EST

From: JQuiltaol.com

To: qhlcuenet.com

catherine kypta wrote..."Hello all, I too use gloves with no fingers, like

Jean."

My message was:

If you plan on doing a lot of hand quilting...

go to CVS and buy a bag on latex gloves...cut off all of the fingers and put

one of the fingers on your thumb when you are quilting,for pulling the needle

and thread...better than any needle gripper...and you don't have to stop to

pick it up every time...

just wanted to clarify that

I cut the fingers from the latex gloves and use the fingers and throw away the

gloves..

not to belabor the point ...but it's a perfect example of how the story

changes...can you imagine how quilt stories have changed....

jean

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:59:16 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

Why are you using embroidery floss? If you must use it then try "Thread

Heaven" on the floss. It's sold in most sewing/quilt stores/catalogs.

Roberta

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:59:58 -0500

From: Alan Kelchner <quiltfixmail.jax.bellsouth.net>

Hey, y'all - instead of cutting the fingers off'n of latex gloves (can

be somewhat loose because they're one-size-fits-all bought in little

packs), go to the office supply store and get a box of rubber grips.

Like a heavy duty finger cot, they fit very snugly. I personally cut off

the bottom half to keep it from dragging on the fabric. But I swear by

the things, and Office Depot likes to see me coming !

Alan

who all uses serrated butter knives to close safety pins - $6 for that

"tool"?!

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:04:53 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

To: notestine.11osu.edu (Peggy Notestine)

Cc: QHLcuenet.com

Subject: Re: QHL: Odds and Ends

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Peggy..I forgot to mention that when you do Big Stitch most people use

Perle Cotton..it slides through fabric easier. You may also have to

check the floss to see if you are sewing with the twist or against it. I

do a lot of embroidery, but pulling floss through two layers of fabric

with batting in between would not be a fun thing to do!! <smile> And

this comes from a woman who just completed a runner of Battenburg Lace

(hand made)!

Roberta

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:05:16 -0500

From: Alan Kelchner <quiltfixmail.jax.bellsouth.net>

There is a very interesting aspect to this Jefferson/Hemming deal. I was

reading my Time magazine a few weeks back (usually read it

cover-to-cover), and they had an article about the progeny of that

union.  Turns out that there were children following the union that

could and couldn't "pass" as white. Evidently some of the family who

could pass moved away from home to recreate their lives as white. What

eventually  became the "black" branch of the family were very aware of

the possibility of Jefferson being an ancestor, while the "white" branch

had no idea! I haven't made anything of it, but it was a really unique

aspect of the story.

Alan

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:15:44 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

To: JQuiltaol.com

Cc: oldquiltalbany.net, QHLcuenet.com

I'm beginning to wonder if my Underground book is coming from Amazon

exactly that way:underground! Others have had their copy for over a week

and all Amazon says to me is, "Your order is being processed"!

Have you read it ??Has anyone read it???

Roberta,dying of curiousity!

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:20:40 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

To: vgercwnet.com (Catherine Kypta)

When I was showing horses  (jumpers) I used it (DMSO) on them.

Roberta

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:25:36 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

To: bevquiltsprynet.com

Cc: QHLcuenet.com

"Quilt Appraisals Why,How & By Whom" by Beverly Dunivent, page

68,McCall's Vintage Quilts 1998. An informative article, even if it is

deemed "simple" by the author!! <grin>

Roberta

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:42:04 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

To: JQuiltaol.com

Jean...you sent a shiver up my spine (or is that down?) when you said

you cut off the fingers of the gloves...I cut off part of my left index

finger  with a rotary cutter last March ...now put that with the other

misinterpretation and we can have Jean cutting off Roberta's finger!!!

LOL

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:50:34 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

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Alan...the first time I bought the rubber cots I very seriously

explained to my DH what they were used for in quilting... he didn't stop

laughing for days!!! I'll leave that one to your imagination.  I use a

grapefruit spoon to close pins...but your knife is cheaper!

Are you ready for Orlando? Is Teddy ready for Orlando? I can hardly

wait!!!

Roberta/Lake Alfred

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:01:27 -0500 (EST)

From: quiltsnbearswebtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)

To: QuiltFixeraol.com

Cc: QHLcuenet.com

When this country was being settled meetings were not held indoors, they

were held under large trees (oaks) and the charter oak became a legend

in its own time: the charters were signed under the oak. Even today some

towns call meetings "under the oak", even if the "oak" is air

conditioned and has four walls! The acorn had the tradition of "from

little acorns, big oaks grow". (From small groups large towns grow).

Roberta

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:31:55 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.comail.airmail.net>

I got a call from Barnes & Nobel this afternoon...my copy is at the front

desk at the Dallas store.....I'll get it after I have my session with the

torture queen ( personal trainer- a present from a business assoc) and will

let you know ASAP what I find...

Laura

At 08:15 PM 1/19/99 -0500, Roberta Geanangel wrote:

>I'm beginning to wonder if my Underground book is coming from Amazon

>exactly that way:underground! Others have had their copy for over a week

>and all Amazon says to me is, "Your order is being processed"!

>Have you read it ??Has anyone read it???

>Roberta,dying of curiousity!

>

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