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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:38:37 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>

To: "Quilt History List" <QHL@cuenet.com>

Following is a bibliography of books that have bearing on oral history.  I

have taken it from the booklet " Oral History for the Local Historical

Society", third edition, revised, by Willa K. Baum, copyright 1987.  ISBN

0-910050-87-2, which is a very good primer for anyone interested in doing

oral histories.

Baum, Willa K - "Transcribing and Editing Oral History."  1977, 127 pp

Nashville: American Association for State and Local History (172 Second

Avenue North, Suite 102, Nashville, Tenn. 37201.  $9.00

Charlton, Thomas L. " Oral History for Texans."  1981, 85 pp.  Austin: Texas

Historical Commission (P.O. Box 12276, Austin Tx, 78711.  $5.75.

Cutting-Baker, Holly, et al.  "Family Folklore Interviewing Guide and

Questionaire.  1978, 7 pp.  Washington DC.  U.S. Govt. Printing Office.

$1.00

Epstein, Ellen Robinson and Rona Mendelsohn.  "Record and Remember:  Tracing

Your Roots Through Oral History."  1978, 119 pp.  Washington DC.  Center for

Oral History, Chevy Chase, MD (7507 Wyndale Road, Chevy Chase, MD.  20815.

$4.25.  Especially good for immigrant families.

Ives, Edward D.  "The Tape-Recoded Interview:  A Manual for Field Workers in

Folklore and Oral History."  1980, 130 pp.  Knoxville:  The University of

Tennessee Press (Knoxville Tenn., 37996)  $7.00.  A full and readable manual

by a leading folklorist, especially strong on recording techniques.

Inclueds samples of form letters, agreements, accession forms.

Shumway, Gary L and William G. Hartlye.  "An Oral History Primer."  1973, 28

pp. Salt Lake City :Primer Publications (PO Box 11894, Salt Lake City, Utah

84147) $2.50.  A simple guide on how to get going, especially aimed at doing

one's own family history.

I don't know how many of these are still available, or how current the

prices given are.  But if you are truly interested in getting started doing

oral histories, the booklet from which this bibliography was taken is an

excellent start.  It might be all you need.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:04:42 EST

From: QuiltFixer@aol.com

In a message dated 2/7/99 8:51:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sandjloken@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< I'm sure it was just a slip of the 'tongue' when you wrote Brooklyn, NY.  I

 believe McKinley was shot in Buffalo, NY, but it sounds like a great quilt.

 Jean in MN who grew up in Brooklyn. >>

Right you are Jean, it must have been the excitement.  It is Buffalo, NY

indeed!

Toni B.

QuiltFixer@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:10:07 -0500

From: Nancy Roberts <robertsn@norwich.net

One source for info on Nancy Cabot designs is Barbara Brackman's book, The

Encyclopedia of Pieced Patterns (AQS). She includes a reference at the back

of the book giving background information on pattern sources. Nancy Cabot was

the name of a 1930s syndicated column published in the Chicago Tribue. It was

written by Loretta Leitner Rising. I have found the B. Brackman book to be a

valuable resource in researching the first publication of patterns, pattern

names, etc. and recommend it. Nancy

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:46:44 -0700

From: Eileen Trestain <ejtrestain@earthlink.net>

I'd like to throw in a small comment about the price of fabric in the

south during the war. Remember that the value of money fluctuated at

this time. too. Depending on the situation at the time, and who she was

trying to buy from, our "$20 a yard" lady could have been paying a lot

more OR a lot less than we think of as $20.. BY the end of the war, she

could have paid thousands in confederate money, and still not gotten her

fabric, as the paper money was worthless. Unlike today, where

confederate money is probably worth thousands!

I've seen the orange and green applique quilt Diane Leone has up for

auction. In fact, I have pictures of it up close and personal. It was

beyond my means when I saw it then, but it is a "one of those that got

away" quilt that never leaves my mind. What is the chance I can catch it

now, do you think?  It is definately "me" in many ways.

Xenia, if I am coming to Quilt America, I would definately like to go to

the Boxes Under the Bed seminar. Do you think I could fit it in?

Eileen Trestain

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:45:30 EST

From: Baglady111@aol.com

ROCKY MT QUILT MUSEUM

1111 Washington Ave

Golden, CO 80401303-277-0377

email  RMQM@woroldnet.att.net

and I would like to add..JUNE 1 THRU AUG 28 is a FEEDSACK

QUILT/FASHIONS/MEMORABILIA exhibit and I will be there to present a lecture

Monday June 14, at 7:oopm..come by and say HI...Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:13:08 -0000

From: "Jenni Dobson" <jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk

Hi, everyone, I'm a new subscriber to this list, introducing myself from the

UK. My name is Jenni Dobson and I heard about the list from an American

quilting friend who lives over here.

I'm writing on the subject of getting to see old quilts because like the

quilter who wrote last week, I recently saw some interesting old quilts too!

I was visiting the Mannin Quilters on the Isle of Man (in that bit of sea

between England, Scotland & Ireland) and because my flight arrived early in

the day, they arranged a visit for me to see quilts in the museum, which

aren't usually on display. We saw about 10 quilts (about 1/3rd of what they

have) of many different styles, including ones made from woollen fabrics

produced locally, using the local variety of sheeps' wool. The earliest

quilt was probably from the 1820s. It was fascinating that as the curator

answered our questions about them, I also learned more about what life was

like on the island in the past than I would have otherwise.  In most cases,

they knew the family names of the makers and because the island is quite a

small place, lots of background information can still be found.

It's really sad that most UK museums don't display their textile collections

(incl. quilts) at least on rotation, though I know the right conditions are

costly to provide. But in many cases, visitors don't even know such

collections exist and so people don't even request to see these things. If

only they were documented better and talked about more, more people might

ask to see them and make the keepers realise we are interested. (BTW, the

local group hope to help document these quilts.)

I left feeling like the other contributor - privileged to have seen these

quilts.

Jenni Dobson - from the snowy Midlands of England.

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

I have had a nice email from the director of corporate services at the

Nova Scotia Museum.  Someone kindly forwarded my post about their

excellent book, Old Nova Scotian Quilts, and he informs me that they

will shortly reissue the book.  he says anyone interested in reserving a

copy can reach them at nsmbooks@gov.ns.ca

Xenia

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:12:22 -0000

From: "Sally Ward" <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk>

We have been discussing the relative cost of fabrics, but can anyone tell me

if the high cost of cotton thread is universal? Yesterday I bought a 1000

metre reel of Sylko mercerised cotton which has just had its annual price

rise.  The price now is UKP 5.25 which equates to USD 8.40.  My retailer

blames it on a 'cartel' controlling the price, and couldn't understand why I

wouldn't buy some cotton/polyester mix at UKP1.00.  Since thread is

something we all need all the time I would be happy to stock up with a US

order if the price is right and if someone can recommend a brand.

Sally

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:29:02 -0800

From: Kathy Tavares <kmtavare@uci.edu>

Can anyone tell me how we could get in touch with someone to have them

speak at our guild on this program?  It wouldn't be this year, as our

calendar is full, but possibly next year.

Also,  can someone email me privately and let me know where to send the $15

to for the BB.

Kathy T,

Kathy Tavares

kmtavare@uci.edu

(949)824-6047

(949)824-2261 FAX

University of California, Irvine

Physical Sciences

Purchasing

172 Rowland Hall

Irvine, CA 92697-4675

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:38:05 EST

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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:58:34 -0600

From: Russell-Hill <russhill@ctesc.ne

Sally Ward wrote:

>

> We have been discussing the relative cost of fabrics, but can anyone tell me

> if the high cost of cotton thread is universal? Yesterday I bought a 1000

> metre reel of Sylko mercerised cotton which has just had its annual price

> rise.  The price now is UKP 5.25 which equates to USD 8.40.  My retailer

> blames it on a 'cartel' controlling the price, and couldn't understand why I

> wouldn't buy some cotton/polyester mix at UKP1.00.  Since thread is

> something we all need all the time I would be happy to stock up with a US

> order if the price is right and if someone can recommend a brand.

>

> Sally

Good afternoon,

Well some of the reason for the price to have gone up is that TX had

such a bad drought last year that the Cotton crop in the Pan handle was

or is almost non existant.  The southern part of the state grows cotton

to and what they did have got distroyed in the floods and heavy rain

this fall.  I talked with Mr Wilbanks from Hobbs asking him about the

cost of cotton batts mostly the organic ones they have because they get

that cotton from the Pan Handle.  Of course it is like anything else

coffee goes up because of a problem in Columbia Sugar goes up because of

this etc.  We get use to the higher prices they never come down then

there is a glut of the product and we then see a tiny drop.  I know that

prices overseas are way higher then ours but I think we to will see

higher cotton prices also because of the drought.  We can only pray for

a good year for the cotton farmers .  I never did get an answer on the

cost of batts going up so I am stocking up anyway.  I like the 100%

organic because it is the closest to what was in older quilts of the

1800's  I know they carded the cotton but it is think like they were.

Debbie

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:48:33 EST

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:21:25 EST

From: @aol.com

Donna -

There was an exhibit at Old Sturbridge Village in Massachusetts on New England

quilts from 1750 to the early 1800's, with a companion book (=Northern

Comfort=).   The very early quilts were wholecloth, usually either of fine

wool or plain silk, or occasionally quilted palampores (the early equivalent

of an Indian print bedspread).  There are also very old quilts at the

Metropolitan Museum in New York, the Smithsonian, the Los Angeles County

Museum in California, the Wadsworth Atheneum in Hartford, the Winterthur

Museum in Delaware, and the Shelburne Museum in Vermont.

You might also see if you can find a local Revolutionary War re-enactment

group.  Rev War re-enactors are *fanatics* for accuracy, even worse than Civil

War regiments. 

Good luck!

Karen Evans

Easthampton, MA

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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:12:11 -0600

From: Valerie Davis <vpse@globaldialog.com

Dear group,

    Of the two films, Dances with Wolves, and Last of the Mohicans, the

more accurate depiction of Native American history would have to be

Dances with Wolves. The 1980's version of  "Mohicans" was taken from the

1930's film version, which was taken from the James Fennimore Cooper's

book from the late 19th c.  Cooper's book was a highly romantized

version of what happened to the Mohican's and is inaccurate. Both the

two films added a romantic interest for Hawkeye which was not part of

the book. I must agree the rifle, costumes, and scenary were depicted

with much authenticity. I've read that the producers of the 1980's film

spent considerable amount of time and effort researching  the fighting

scenes and weapons. Oh by the way, Cooper was wrong about the Mohicans

dying out. When they were kicked out of New York they migrated west and

are now happily living in Wisconsin!!!                           I just

love talking history,  Valerie

Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:16:12 -0600

From: Russell-Hill <russhill@ctesc.net>

To: @aol.com

> You might also see if you can find a local Revolutionary War re-enactment

> group.  Rev War re-enactors are *fanatics* for accuracy, even worse than Civil

> War regiments.

>

> Good luck!

>

> Karen Evans

> Easthampton, MA

I thought only Civil War units were to the extreme.  Its good to know

there is someone out there worse than us.

Debbie

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:33:56 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

If I may, I'd like to caution the list about offering negative opinions

publicly about dealings with quilt vendors.  The internet is a powerful

tool, and one bad review can have an instantly devastating effect if we

are not careful.  I suppose all of us have favorites from whom we buy

with confidence, and others we might be less likely to deal with, but

unless there has been a clear intent to defraud or mislead, a vendor's

reputation should not be commented upon negatively.  Without a good

reputation a quilt vendor has little to offer.

IMHO as a buyer and as a vendor; my good name is the basis for my

business.

Xenia

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:29:53 EST

From: Baglady111@aol.com

and if you are coming to QUILTERS' HERITAGE CELEBRATION in Lancaster, April;

stop by and visit with us at the 5th Annual Conference of The Feedsack

Club..we'll be at 521 Greenfield Rd, HOLIDAY INN..right across from the

TOURIST BUREAU..or contact me for the FUN ahead!!!  Lectures, demos, silent

auction, feedsack display, SHOW & TELL..so popular we have to hold it two

nites!!!  Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:44:33 -0600

From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>

To: "J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>, "Quilt History List" <QHL@cuenet.com>

Judy, I've bought lots of "blocks" from Betsy.At least Karen and I did 2

years ago.  This last year I think I bought one set....that's all I can

afford.  a set of 3 1850 blocks were upwards of $60-75 this last April in

Paducah.., we've already discussed the fact that blocks and tops are

escellating in price now, but do they really need to be Soooooo high?.

Know that RMQ sells most of their quilts, and they are absolutely

fantastic,  to the oriental market and used to change the prices at the US

shows, but didn't have time one year and people still bought them.  It's

the old game of the more $$ you are asked to spend the more valuable it

must be.  I know  of a quilt dealer that was advised to mark their quilts

up 3X what they purchased them for, eliminate the quilts under $500 and

suddenly their business quadrupled!!

And we think that the car repair guy is the only "honest crook" in town

The only way that we can have an effect is not to buy them...but then for

people like my  'ole buddy, 'ole pal  Karen who feels it is her purpose in

life to own them all............<G>

BTW, Karen has been pretty quiet lately here, her knee surgery was more

extensive than they first thought. She's on crutches for *another

week*...cussing and discussing her stairs to her office and the kids room

(no problem there!)

But that means that I get to **once again** <G> hang the quilts for the

VQTS Quilt College Mini Conference at the end of the month by myself!!  I

knew she'd find a way not to climb that ladder <VBG>

Laura

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:27:17 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net

I didn't hear this, and am quoting from a post to another list.  Since the

poster didn't hear the beginning to know who was reading the essay, do you

know whether or not it was from the new  Underground Rairoad book?

>From: Terry Grant <tgrant@teleport.com>

>Driving to work this morning I heard an essay read on NPR--"Morning

Edition"

>I think. Unfortunately I did not hear the beginning to know who it was, but

>it was a woman talking about her grandmother's treasures, which included a

>quilt. She said she asked her why she kept the old thing and her

grandmother

>said, "you know the story--this quilt is a family treasure." It seems the

>quilt was made by HER grandmother and contained fabric from the dresses

worn

>by her grandmother and her grandmother's sister on the day the sister was

>"sold" away. They tore strips from their dresses and exchanged them, so

each

>could make a quilt. Then they swore to find one another someday. After

>slavery ended the grandmother carried the quilt with her and searched for

>her sister for the rest of her life, but never found her.

>This story has stayed with me all day and gives me chills to think of it.

>What if there are two families out there with treasured family quilts that

>have that same fabric in them? What if those quilts could have brought the

>sisters back together? What if they could still bring the families

together?

>Wouldn't that be something?

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:00:44 -0800 (PST)

From: Jackie Joy <jjoy@med.unr.edu>

I heard this yesterday; I thought the lady's name was Lynn Johnson

(something like that).  I have heard her before on NPR.  She is an

African-American story teller.

She was speaking about a great-aunt, I believe, who had told stories about

her youth.  When I started paying attention, it was when she said a little

girl (maybe her aunt) was disappointed when she went to the water fountain

marked "colored" and the water was plain.  And then the little girl had

had "Jim Crow" explained to her.  I visualized a little African-American

girl in awe in front of a water fountain that was truly "colored", a la

Liberace's dancing waters.

There was nothing about quilts as signals on the UGRR, but only as a part

of family history.  The speaker in her thoughtless youth had suggested to

her aunt that she get rid of all the "old stuff" in her home and get new.

Jackie Joy

Reno, Nevada

jjoy@med.unr.edu

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:23:57 EST

From: Xroadclown@aol.com

Fabric is a powerful thing.  We have dozen's of quilts that were made by by

grandmother and great grandmother (1864- till 1981)  My mother can look at

those quilts and remember my grandmother's dress's, great-grandmothers,

aprons, and even recognize some shirt fabric worn by each of their husbands.

It's wonderful.  We've begun photographing the specific fabrics she

recognizes, and writing the history on the back.  that way the memories will

live on and on!

melanie

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:37:44 -0800

From: Marilyn Maddalena <marilyn@crl.com

All of you who are interested in Nova Scotia quilts should look for the

next issue of the NQA magazine, The Quilting Quarterly.  An article on some

of these will appear in that issue.  It should be available to members in

early to mid March.  I do have an affiliation -- I'm Publications Chair of

NQA -- but since there seems to be so much interest in the subject, thought

I'd let you all know so you could look for it.  MM in Sacramento, CA

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:44:36 -0800

From: Marilyn Maddalena <marilyn@crl.com>

California began documenting quilts about 20+ years ago through the

California Heritage Quilt Project.  Following their documentation, a book

was published entitled "Ho! for California."  I'm on the Board of

Directors, and CHQP is currently involved in the oral history part of the

Heritage project where we record oral interviews with quilters.  We hope to

wrap up this part of the project within a year, with 1000 completed

interviews.  For the quilter in Irvine, I'm sure you could get hold of

someone on the CHQP Board who lives in your area who could present a

program on conducting oral interviews to your group. A booklet of

directions and guidelines for conducting oral interviews through the CHQP

is available for $25.00.  It was put together by the Project Director. Many

guilds throughout the state have been involved in this project.  If you

want more information, e-mail me privately.  Marilyn in Sacramento 

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