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Date Tue, 9 Mar 1999 232534 EST

From Xroadclown@aol.com

i appreciated receiving the info on the "worm" that was attached to info on

our digest. I guess if you were fortunate enough to pass it by, then you can

pass by the info on how to get rid of it.

just my 2cents

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Date Tue, 09 Mar 99 214910 PST

From "dhaynes5" <dhaynes5@rmi.net>

Thanks for the information. I have been very allergic to Dawn dish washing soap for years. I wondered why my hands have suddenly started itching and were red after washing dishes with the clear Ivory liquid. I will definitely switch. I wish these manufacturers would put something on the label to warn people. My hands were really bad before I figured out it was Dawn the first time around.

DeAnna in beautiful Colorado

dhaynes5@rmi.com

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> HI GUYS,

> finally solved our server problem and can join you again.

> I want to let every one know about info I learned from the chemists at

> Proter and Gamble. I have been using Ivory liquid for wet cleaning old

> textiles for some 20 years now. However, I recently noticed a change in

> the way the fabrics were responding. I used up my supply of the white

> liquid and bought new, clear Ivory. The clear Ivory is a compleatly

> different chemical formula than the old pearl white lotion was. Please

> do not use it on any fragile fibers. Ivory dishwashing liquid now is

> closer to the chemical formulation of Dawn.

> I inquired about the formula of Ivory Snow. The chemist assured me that

> it had not changed. The chemical formula of Ivory Snow is almost the

> same as Orvus (also made by Proctor and Gamble). It is more

> concentrated with a higher degree of what the textile chemists call

> "surfacents".

> Ivory Snow is cheaper and easier to find. It is a pure soap and is ph

> neutral. However, you REALLY have to rise well! I always taste the

> rinse water to be sure that It is totally gone.

> I prefer to use Ivory Snow than Orvus because I have more control over

> the cleaning power. I can really control the concentration of soap.

> One of the things we discussed in Omaha was that we may not be getting

> all of the dirt out of these old textiles. that is just as harmful as

> not washing at all! The idea is get to them stablized and in as

> neutral a state as possible. Remember that the real danger comes not

> from the soap, but from the damage to the faibers while being handled

> when wet. They get so very heavy.

> Cheers, it is good to be back. Newbie Richardson

>

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 070631 -0800

From Debra Roby <debroby@earthlink.net>

Just an observation.. or maybe a question.

Everyone is writing that Orvus Paste "is a soap not a detergent". Yet,

the chemical description of it on the large tub is pure Sodium Laureth

Sulfate (or Lauryl or something really close to that, I lost my label),

which, according to my chemist husband is pure detergent.

The purpose of a detergent is to act as a surfactant. That is, to break

up the surface tension that exists in water and on items to be cleaned.

This allows the water to move more easily on, through and around the

items and move dirt away.

I've also been told by another chemist/quilter that the clear, free

laundry detergents have the same formulation as Orvus but are obviously

more dilute.

This might just be an addendum to my regular cringe about "chemical

free" things (the only chemically free thing is a total vacuum).

deb

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 103535 -0700

From Brooke Flynn <brookeflynn@mcn.net>

To qhl@cuenet.com

Greetings - if anyone would be interested in helping in my vendor's

booth at the April Quilters Heritage Celebration in Lancaster, please

email me privately. Thanks!

Brooke

Flynn Quilt Frame Company

brookeflynn@mcn.net

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 103018 -0600

From Russell-Hill <russhill@ctesc.net>

Content-Type text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I have to agree with Snow about the lengthy and frightening post this

lady sent. When I got the message and scrolled down and saw the picture

of the fireworks on my screen I paniced to the point my heart was

pounding. I can not afford an expensive repair job on my computer

because someone thought the whole lot of information needed to be

included. It appears that Kris felt it was a bit to much also because

she unsubscribed her. I hope the woman knows why she was unsubscribed.

Otherwise it won't to do any good. On all the list I have been on with

the worm passing through only the web site addy has been given and that

is all we needed. I realize that you can not get viruses etc from

email but this thing is so awful who knows what it can do. When ever I

saw that message as I scrolled though it was unnerving to say the least.

I realize this woman was trying to be helpful but the addy would have

been enough.

Debbie putting in her .02 worth.

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 135812 -0600

From DSefton@kcstar.com

Hi all, reporter Dru here. In the midst of my digging I have run across a

quilter who has an interesting question Does anyone out there know the

origin of the Double Wedding Ring quilt? As in, origin of the name, time

period, any myths attached to the pattern (good luck to sew before the

nuptials, etc.) She doesn't have access to the Internet so I told her I'd

post the query for her. Any info greatly appreciated! Or any good books on

the subject? Best, KC Dru

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 162353 -0600

From Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>

Dru,

Karen and I attempted to cover DWR at the June meeting of the Vintage Quilt&

Textile Society and Karen wrote an article in the June '98 issue of the

VQTS newsletter as well. What we came up with was.....no one really knows.

The Orlofsky's in "Quilts In America" say that the pattern became popular

in the late 19th Century when it was known as "THe Rainbow" But, In

Kiracofe's "The American Quilt" he says that he found no reliable

documented examples of a DWR that dates before 1920...

The only book that we could drum up that is really devoted to the DWR is by

Robert Bishop titled" The Roamance of Double Wedding Ring Quilts" Dutton,

1989, ISBN 0-525-24753-X

It mainly deals with the history of the interlocking ring motif but even he

couldn't pin down who "penned" it DWR......

Laura

In cloudy, cool and threatning thunderstorms N. Texas

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 182713 +0000

From shirleyb@klis.com

Thanks Deb. for your encouragement. One woman flamed me (not really

bad). I think you know me well enough that I am usually pretty

modest in what I mail but that scard me to death also as I am

just about completely illiterate.

Blessings

Snow

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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 184804 -0500

From paul hahn <phahn@erols.com>

Thanks Laura for letting us know of the misfortunes of Sharon Tandy.

Hope our notes cheer her up. I know my Mennonite friends in Lancaster

County, PA love to show off their treasures from what they call a "tea

towel shower" when one of them go through an illness, and word is

spread to sent a cheery tea towel along with a card. When I went

through my fabric swatches to send along to Sharon, I realized, more

than anything, I need to organize my collection of swatches, yardage,

scraps, etc. Laura, could you briefly describe Sharon's fabric dating

book--is it archival with special paper, dividers? Does she jot notes

with each piece noting location found, approx. date, etc? Wow, this

could be a project! Just wondering if you could describe what Sharon

found to be the best way to organize these treasures.

Nancy Hahn, Annapolis , Maryland--enjoying this late season snowstorm

as the snow day off from school gives me additional time to play with my

fabrics.

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Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 001015 -0000

From "Jenni Dobson" <jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk>

Re the perforations again in response to an enquiry on the spacing of =

the lines of quilting - there was a central motif with an irregular =

outline, but then the design was printed to look like concentric rows of =

lace etc., so I guess mostly the quilting rows were around 1/2 - 3/4" =

apart. And the panels were actually two cushions, not a quilt as someone =

seems to have thought - I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear. So I =

don't think it was the weight of water on these itmes that caused the =

damage - I think it was just regular use - what we call 'wear & tear' =

but the fact remains that the fabric still tore away from the stitching =

- which is still intact right through to the backing. That is all the =

point that I was making.

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