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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 222751 -0500

From"J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>

Until around the time of the Civil War, paper was made out of cotton

linters. That is why the NYTimes from the mid 19th century is in better

shape than last week's paper.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 224057 EST

FromAlineMcK@aol.com

Toqhl@cuenet.com

You are correct, sir! And that's also the answer to the currency puzzle

"paper" money, even today, is made out of cotton. I believe there's also a

small amount of silk; the very fine red threads that help act as

anticounterfeit.

Plus the embedded strip that appears with the denomination when you hold it up

to the light (this is true of older money as well as the new "monopoly"

money). And, obligatory trivia, if you look very, very, closely at the oval

around the portraits of the $20 and above bills, you'll see it's not a solid

line...it's writing, about 1/2 mm high, saying "United States of America" over

& over. You may need a magnifying glass. Again, anti-counterfeit. The writing

is finer than a copy machine can duplicate.

Are we far enough off-topic yet? I can bring up the bit about guessing the

model of the car that's on the back of the $20. (or is it the $10?).

In a message dated 3/22/99 92937 PM, Judygrow@blast.net writes

>Until around the time of the Civil War, paper was made out of cotton

>linters. That is why the NYTimes from the mid 19th century is in better

>shape than last week's paper.

>Judy in Ringoes, NJ

>judygrow@blast.net

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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 194804 -0800

From"Christine Thresh" <christine@winnowing.com>

We could use cut up paper money for English paper piecing. Or we could sew

many bills together and use it to wrap our quilts for storage.

Christine Thresh

http//www.winnowing.com

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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 225350 -0500

From"J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>

To"Quilt History List" <QHL@cuenet.com>

SubjectQHLcardboard quilting templates

Today I was able to spend a lot of time with the cardboard box of templates

I bought yesterday. Many of them have broken into pieces in the very narrow

sections and I've been taping them together, as the original owner did

numerous times. In my last post I mentioned the 1951 date found printed on

one of the pieces of cardboard. Today I found one with a 1933 date. They

were the same type of cardboard, with the same printing; it seems like a

yearly calendar of bus and/or train time schedules, and tips, and household

hints put out by the Reading Eagle. So it seems our early quilter lived

near enough to Reading Pa to get the same wall poster every year for many

years.

I have some very good plastic, a huge pile of the plastic used for the

"Template Applique" kits. This is heavier weight and in much larger sheets

than the stencil plastic we can buy retail. So I plan to trace all these

stencils off onto the plastic to make sure the patterns are available

without too much handling of the actual cardboard.

My question is, how do I permantly preserve the original stencils? My first

thought was encasing them in contact paper, but that in not reversible, so

not considered good conservation practice. My second idea is to encase them

in Mylar, but that wouldn't prevent the fragile 1/4" connections from

breaking further.

Anyone out there have some good conservation practice for this project?

Remember, I don't have the kind of storage a museum would have.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 220954 -0800

From"Anne Copeland" <anneappraiser@mailcity.com>

--

Thanks, Judy for your enlightening "factoid" (thank you Julia) on paper. I had a suspicion that paper was a higher rag content than wood, but I was not clear as to the %. Would there have been any acid involved in the manufacturing of rag into paper? So during, or after the civil war, was paper made only from wood, or a combination? Thanks again, Anne Copeland

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 073225 -0000

From"Kirk Collection" <kirkcoll3@home.com>

I'll be in Paducah from Sunday through the following Sunday mid-day --

taking the two appraisal revoew courses and testing. We don't have a booth

this year, but will have an "Open House" in my room on Friday at the

Executive Inn. Just ask for my name on the house phone and I tell you the

room number -- don't know ittil I get there. Or callthe shop that week and

they can tell you. I'll be bringing "a few things." Drop by and say hi.

Nancy Kirk

The Kirk Collection

1-800-398-2542

www.kirkcollection.com

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 085705 EST

FromCToczek@aol.com

I finally understand the comments on the changes in the quilt mags. After

subscibing to QNM only about a year, I just had the chance to go through some

back issues of the same. I agree that QNM was then much "meatier" in history,

"people/guild" articles and general interest topics. The ones I've received

lately seem to be turning into "pattern" magazines.....like so many of the

others? What about American Patchwork and Quilting? Not like the old QNM,

but Heidi Kaisand and the staff are including history-based articles and it

has become "meatier" in the past year.

Carla, West Point, NY

who found spring for a week in Arkansas only to return to snow yet

again........

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 081055 -0600

FromLaura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>

Thought that might get your attention <G>....

Actually that is the title of an article in yesterdays Dallas Morning News.

Some of you may remember the thread that we had going quite some time

ago....what exactly IS "poison" green, nile green, alizeran blue.......

Well one of the reasons that we as textile historians cant keep a handle on

the names follows....

Taken from the Dallas Morning News- Monday March 22 Page C-1

"A SHADY LINE OF WORK

What color is Infinity? This sounds like the kide of question you ask after

you've heard one hand clapping, but it's more likely to come up at your

local paint shop.

Infinity is what Behr paints calls an ultra-brught white lates and it's

typical of the latest trend in paintnames that have notheing to do with

colors such as Homecoming, Victory, Hummingbird, Bitter Root, Dark Secret.

Naming new paint colors is an extremely infomal qualitative process, says

Kristi Thorne, a spokeswomna at Cleveland-based Glidden Paints.

"We gather up a couple of people who are great at thinking up names, and a

few bottles of wine, and lock them all in a room until they finish the job.

The most recent batch had about 650 colors"........

Wish I had a scanner to scan the 9 samples and the multiple choice test

they gave for readers to match up.......Did you know that what we've been

calling Nile Green is now "Hummingbird"........go figure!!!

And who do we call to apply for next years panel.....and can we opt for

Margaritas instead of wine??????????

Laura

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 093958 -0600 (Central Standard Time)

FromMary Persyn <Mary.Persyn@valpo.edu>

ToQHL@cuenet.com

The above topics aren't as far apart as you might think. )

Paper money - According to the Federal Reserve Bank of

Atlanta's web site, US currency is printed on cotton and

linen rag paper. So we could use paper moeny for paper

piecing and not have to worry about the acid content.

Acid paper - Reaching back into ancient history (library

school in the late 1960s), we were taught that paper used

in the US before about 1850 was made from rags and so had a

low acid content. About 1850 the cheap process of making

paper from wood pulp was invented and soon almost all paper

was made from wood pulp and had a high acid content.

That's why books in the library from before the Civil War

are holding up better than much newer ones.

Deacidification of library materials is a major problem for

most libraries, which many of us can't afford to deal with.

Paducah - I'm up for getting together in Paducah.

Thursday, Friday or Saturday night would be best for me.

Mary in sunny Valparaiso, IN where the crocuses are in

bloom!!!

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 090402 -0800

From"R & L Carroll" <Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net>

To"QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com>

Hello!

Color "names" can be very confusing when trying to determine colors used

through out the decades. I prefer to use the color wheel when describing

colors (blue-green, yellow-green, yellow-orange, etc.) Color names changed

over time with fashion, as they do now, and some colors were named later

simply because they were associated with certain areas or certain

nationalities.

It seems useless to try and determine what was meant by these type of

names. Should we assume that everyone in a certain time period agreed on

exactly what color could be called by a certain name? I have seen the name

"Nile Green" for greens from light yellow-greens to deep blue-greens.

The notion that there were only certain hues used in certain decades is

incorrect. As a collector of scrap quilts I see a wide range of colors,

used in the same quilt. An example is the 1930-40 time span, where there

were dozens of greens used. Not just " Nile green", or "that thirties

green".

It is true that certain colors were very popular in certain time periods.

And we all enjoy hearing the charming and interesting names from earlier

times.

Laurette in so. California

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 151051 +0400

FromXenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

Some thoughts on quilt magazines First, most magazines work 6-7 months

in the future, so there may be the kinds of articles you are looking for

coming up later in the year. For instance, I will have 2 articles on

conversation prints in American Patchwork & Quilting, one in August and

one in December. The text for the August issue was due at the magazine

this past January 15; the one for December is due May 1.

Second, most magazines have a fixed number of pages, a percentage of

which must be allotted to advertisers who pay the cost of the

publication; the balance must be editorially juggled between pattern

articles, how-to pages, news, new products, contests, all the wonderful

pictures we love - you know the format. In order to make room for those

historically-oriented articles ("meaty," someone said), either something

has to go or the number of pages must be increased. This is not a

decision that boards of directors and editors make lightly.

Third, while we in QHL may wish for more historical focus, there are

those who don't like/don't read articles of that kind, and feel that

quilt magazines are meant to be full of instruction (maybe replacing the

traditional family as a source of information on quilting?). When I did

an APQ article last August on historical kit quilts they used my email

address as a point of contact. I can't tell you how many people wrote

to order one of the kits shown in the article, but in another color.

(So - we don't read?)

Bottom line - with the field of quilt interest as diverse as it is, it

is hard for the current quilt magazines to be all things to all people.

That's why there is a publication for miniature quilts, and one for art

quilts. For pure historical-interest publications, one can join the

Vintage Quilt and Textile Society or the American Quilt Study Group,

just to name 2 possibilities. I recommend them both.

Xenia

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 151937 +0400

FromXenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

ToQHL@cuenet.com

SubjectQHLColor names

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I think it's a good idea to try to put antique colors into a current

color spectrum frame of description, but perhaps these terms should be

appositive to the name used for that color when the color was popular.

For instance, it makes little sense to use the term "bubblegum pink"

when referring to 19th century tone-on-tone pink prints, since bubblegum

wasn't even a reality then.

Xenia

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 143447 -0600

FromKAREN BUSH <Birdsong@worldnet.att.net>

ToQHL@cuenet.com

SubjectQHLsprucing up

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Hi guys...we're sprucing up the website and we have a new 'room' or two

for you to go into. One is the Q&A area. Just click on the hot link

under my name.....we'll also have a new BB up today sometime. I've had

several e-mails lately asking me some quilting (hand quilting)

questions, and thought this would be a good idea to put up. ??

kb

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 164435 -0800

From"pepper cory" <pepcory@bmd.clis.com>

To<QHL@cuenet.com>

SubjectQHLQuilt mags and what's popular

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Greetings all antique quilt lovers--got to agree with Xenia on this

subject. The bottom of the pyramid of quilting interest has gotten WAY

larger in the past five years and magazines know what sells--great color

and patterns that are within the capabilities of their readers. I've just

faced this fact while finishing writing a book on quilt marking--we had to

ax the chapter on the history of quilt marking. Believe me, for one who

adores the flotsam and jetsam of quilt history, that decision was like

self-amputation! But how many people (don't hold up your hands all at

once!) give a mouse patootie about the influence of 18th century French

embroidery factories on American quilts today? Our solution in the book was

to show as many great antique quilts as possible and feed the reader bits

of palatible history along with the how-to. When Susan McKelvey and I wrote

The Signature Quilt, we poured our heart and soul into that work. It was

truly history, how-to, and mucho patterns for the money. That book has not

sold well to the masses but remains decorative on a coffee table or handy

for that extra inch your wobbly table needs. However, we who love the old,

the stained, the challenge to piece and applique, may not be without

resources. What about approaching a magazine publisher about trying an

issue, perhaps once a year, that's devoted to antique quilts?

I vote for Christiane Meunier at Chitra as a possible publisher. Comments?

Pepper Cory

PS-apologies for the length--I have fallen off my soapbox...

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 144200 -0800

From"Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1@san.rr.com>

Topepper cory <pepcory@bmd.clis.com>

Dear Pepper and QHL,

Piecework by Interweave Press has found a way to balance history and

"how to" in a very successful way. It has become one of my favorites.

It would be a good place to read about the "history of marking quilting

designs". They touch on all sorts of needlework topics.

IMHO as far a the current crop of quilt books go, more and more is

being written on less and less. But, as everyone has said thus far,

there must be a market for what is being written or there would not be

so much.

I'll get off my soapbox now too,

Julia Zgliniec

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 181433 -0500

From"Peggy O'Connor" <mnoc@brinet.com>

To<QHL@cuenet.com>

Pepper wrote

>What about approaching a magazine publisher about trying an

>issue, perhaps once a year, that's devoted to antique quilts?

I'd love to see a magazine issue devoted to antique quilts, since I don't

buy the quilt magazines now because there is little to no history in them.

I love antique quilts and fabrics and their histories, but I rarely make a

quilted project. I have enjoyed Piecework because it is so beautifully

done, but I do hate buying a magazine for only one quilt article, so I have

passed it by sometimes.

Peggy, in the middle of sewing valances (one mostly done and four to go)

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 180909 EST

FromSaraLMcN@aol.com

I have to agree with Xenia, the diverse nature of quilting makes it hard for

publishers to focus on one aspect. I know that another problem is obtaining

material presents a constant challenge, many publications would like input and

ideas. Readers get discouraged because there is the long wait to see the

results.

Another thing that I have noticed and after talking to other vendors is the

smaller number of historical / reference books being published with not many

in the works. I think as we continue to see the changes in spending occur in

the quilting market that there will be a focus on books, etc., that appeal to

the largest group. While I think our area is the most important, we are a

small specialty market. There will still be reference books, but they may be

harder to get published and will really need our support when they are

introduced.

Sara

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 185301 +0400

FromXenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

Well, I have to stick my oar in on the issue of historical/reference

books, as well. Just try to have a manuscript published, especially one

that has lots of illustrations that should be done in color. The

popular presses will tell you that the book has to have either a price

guide or patterns to sell successfully. This is often not a good fit

with the subject. Try, for instance, to publish a book on the history

of kits and kit quilts, and establish any kind of a price guide that is

meaningful. And of course patterns are pretty much out, since each

entire quilt would need to be copied in pieces (a great many were

center medallion floral appliques with hundreds of pieces.)

I have another good book idea in the works, with much of the writing

done and many of the artifacts assembled. This idea crosses cultural and

collecting lines, but is also not a good pattern/price guide fit. So, I

haven't been able to discuss it with a publisher.

One wonders if the market has created this problem, or if the

publishers, thinking they see where the demand is, have created the

problem. It's sort of like the lurid and repetitious covers on

"romance" paperbacks - the publishers say the audience (mostly women)

wants them, the authors (again, mostly women) say it's the publishers

(mostly men) who think they are necessary to sell the books.

I think I need a nap!

Xenia

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 220244 -0500

From"J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>

>Judy,

> I buy from an archive company binders and folder sheet that are for

>preserving paper items. If you are interested contact me, I can either buy

>them for you through the shop at cost or give you there info. I store all

my

>KC star patterns that way. For the larger pieces, I have one acid free box

>that sits up on top of my shelf and I place all of my stencils in these.

>Sara

Sara,

Thank you for your answer and your offer, however, as a picture framer, I

have access to all those distributors of preservation materials. I buy from

Light Impressions, etc. all the time.

My problem is that some of the larger home-cut stencils are falling apart at

the bridges, or feathers are downright falling off. There are no folders or

things you can buy that are large enough for them.

I might have found the solution to my problem today. A couple of weeks ago

I bought out the contents of another picture frame store. Along with the

really useful stuff for the store came a roll of what I thought was either

shrink wrap or dry-mounting tissue. Turns out I have a 24" x 500' roll of

the stuff that is being sold to quilters as thread wrap. This roll is

labeled as toy wrap, but it is exactly the same stuff. It is absolutely

clear and sticks to itself. I've cut large chunks of it off and am wrapping

each stencil individually, and it is working. The clear stuff (vinyl, I

suppose) is just the right amount of support each brittle and fragile

stencil needs to be handled without further damage.

I suppose the stuff is inert, or it wouldn't be sold to wrap threads (you

know what they say about people who assume). But the materials these

stencils are made of are self destructing at a furious rate anyway. At

least his will hold the detritus together.

My first thought was to cut the vinyl into sections to give to my guild to

sell as thread wrap as a fund raiser (a lifetime supply). But I've found a

really good use for it, so the guild will do without.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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ToJudygrow@blast.net <Judygrow@blast.net>

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 151335 -0800

FromAnne Scott <nzquilter@xtra.co.nz>

I come to this discussion as editor, publisher (and most other things

besides) of a small (by US standards) and only New Zealand quilt

magazine New Zealand QUILTER.

Yes, from my experience, Xenia is right on target. Several years ago I

introduced profiling an antique quilt in each issue. It involved a lot of

research, tracking these old quilts down, often in the store rooms of

museums (we don't have very many in NZ) and getting them photographed and

writing the article. Yes, I did most of the legwork and learned heaps.

From it dates my interest in historical textiles of all sorts.

However, there was never any feedback from readers and when, after about

a year and a half I cut those pages to make way for - yes - more

patterns, there was not one letter or communication. I wondered if anyone

in fact noticed that the antique quilt column had vanished. And reader

surveys I have done all point to the vast majority of quilters buying

magazines for the patterns.

I've been in the business for almost seven years now and seen significant

changes. With the proliferation of magazines and increasing competition

for the quilter's dollars on the newsstands, the smaller interest groups

will ultimately be less well served. It's an expensive business printing

in colour on good paper stock so I had no option but to go with what

readers overwhelmingly were telling me.

I am sure the bigger magazines could tell a similar tale.

Thanks to QHL for providing a forum for us all.

Regards

Anne Scott

Editor & Publisher

New Zealand QUILTER magazine

Wellington, New Zealand

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 211255 -0600

FromLaura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>

>Bottom line - with the field of quilt interest as diverse as it is, it

>is hard for the current quilt magazines to be all things to all people.

>That's why there is a publication for miniature quilts, and one for art

>quilts. For pure historical-interest publications, one can join the

>Vintage Quilt and Textile Society or the American Quilt Study Group,

>just to name 2 possibilities. I recommend them both.

>

>Xenia

>

For those who are not members, I attach the following information on

VQTS....Xenia is a member who has contributed articles to the newsletter in

the past, and Karen eagerly awaits more <G>

Laura

********************************************************

We invite you to become a memeber of the Vintage Quilt and Textile Society.

An organization devoted to the sharing of research and knowledge of antique

quilts, textiles and related subjects. With QUARTERLY mini-conferences ,

" Quilt College"held in the Dallas, Texas , our MONTHLY newsletter mailed

worldwide enables all members to participate by contributing articles and

book reviews pertaining to the selected topics of the month. Membership

dues are $24.00 anually US membership, International membership $30.00 US

funds only

**For more information, contact <vqts1@airmail.net> (that's vqts*one*)

or write to

VQTS

2401 Blue Cypress

Richardson, TX 75082

for a complimentary copy of the newsletter and membership application.

********************************************************

>

>

>

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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 205946 -0800 (PST)

From"Pat L. Nickols" <patlnickols@yahoo.com>

To reply to the question Judy asked, storage of old cardboard quilting

templates.

Over the years I too have gathered some, and felt they were important

so did buy an acid free box to store them. These boxes are sturdy and

do protect the often fragile, small, and well used templates. If the

pattern is one I want to use I photocopy and paste on cardboard or

plastic. Some of my old ones are cereal boxes, contain all sorts of

writing, some notes on how many pieces to cut, color, even gardening

notes. Fun to read.

Pat L. Nickols

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 074007 EST

Dear Friends,

I have been known to stick a spool of hand quilting thread on my machine in a

pinch

( you know...when I'm too lazy to dig for the right thing.....)

I was told by a quilting instructor to NEVER to that...hand quilting thread is

waxed and that the wax would mess up your machine.....

I've since read the labels and I don't see anything to that effect on the

label...what's the deal. I KNOW someone on our list will have information.

Thanks,

Dana

in cool and cloudy southwest VA

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 084447 EST

FromBaglady111@aol.com

IT IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER..April 8, 9, and 10..at THE HOLIDAY INN on

GREENFIELD ROAD..we have moved to this new location.. It is across from the

TOURIST CENTER..come out of THE HOST and make a left on Rt 30..come two

miles...some see us..and visit our web site to tell you of all the FUN STUFF

going on...any questions..EMAIL ME ..JANE of THE FEEDSACK CLUB

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 085213 EST

FromJQuilt@aol.com

Tonzquilter@xtra.co.nz, qhl@cuenet.com

SubjectQHLquilt history on a website....

Thank you, Anne Scott, for that insight into the quilting magazine

business.....

I think it would be wonderful, if once every month or maybe every 2 months,

someone from QHL sent Kris a picture/drawing of an antique quilt they own..

and the history behind that quilt... then Kris could put it up on the Website

for QHL, and we could all see and read about it......or maybe someone else on

this list could "do" a website for this purpose....as Kris no doubt has enough

on her plate right now....

I had the pleasure of meeting Kris at our guild quilt show in Amherst MA...and

she is as great, in person as she is on this list...I do hope that the venture

into Amherst was a profitable one for her...

jean laino

jquilt@aol.com

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 080742 -0600 (CST)

FromCarol H Elmore <celmore@ksu.edu>

In response to Judy's and Pat's comments about cardboard templates, I also

have an extensive vintage cardboard template collection. I ordered acid

free file boxes and hanging files and have categorized them into various

subjects such as leaves, circles, etc. This does not solve the problem of

the acid in the templates themselves but at least I have reduced the acid

content in the storage containers. I have a pH testing pencil and test

this storage material to see if any acidity has been transferred to the

storage materials. The storage materials get quite expensive but I feel

it's worth it to protect my templates as long as possible.

Carol Elmore

Manhattan, KS

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 093859 EST

FromJQuilt@aol.com

Isn't it about time to replace paper with electronics...I receive far too much

mail that I have to read...look at...or toss out before reading or looking

at....

If they can put an encyclopedia on a disc...why not a quilting magazine?...One

could pay a subscription price and then receive the electronic magazine once a

month at a website.. that only subscribers could access....

If I saw a picture of a quilt or an article about a quilt, on the website,

that I wanted to save. .. I could download it to a flopply disk or CD...it

would take up a lotttttt less space and save a lot of trees....

What do you think?

jean

jquilt@aol.com

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 064730 -0800

From"Anne Copeland" <anneappraiser@mailcity.com>

--You go, Jean!

Great idea. The web has so much potential. I guess the only drawback are the many who don't even own a computer yet. Perhaps for them the new media could feature a special TV channel where they could access their subscriptions and just program in each magazine to be read separately. It certainly does sound like the wave of the future. Also, there could be animation in some cases, or instead of just seeing the winning quilts from a big show, you could visit the whole site. Wow, let's get moving!

Cheers from Anne Copeland

Get your FREE Email at http//mailcity.lycos.com

Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http//personal.lycos.com

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 090659 -0600 (CST)

Frommagee@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG

ToXenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

I for one am looking forward to your book on kit and kit quilts. I am a

librarian and this sort of problem in publishing is not limited to quilt

history books. this sort of marketing to the masses is what is happening

with the huge book stores and the demise of small book stores as well.

It really helps to be only interested in whatever everybody else is

interested in. I'm aware I am guilty of gross generalizations, but the

trend bothers me.

Laurie in sunny Oshkosh.

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 071518 -0800

From"Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1@san.rr.com>

Dear Carol,

You mentioned a ph testing pencil.

Will you please tell us how this works and how it is used. I wonder

what other applications it has?

Thank you,

Julia

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 111004 EST

FromJQuilt@aol.com

this is the address for the museum...and a posting about the exhibit...there

weren't any photos of quilts on the site.

http//www.denverartmuseum.org/

Crazy Quilts & Other Curiosities

October 31, 1998 through April 11, 1999

As one of the most popular and often asked about collections of the Denver Art

Museum, crazy quilts exemplify the highest levels of intricate handiwork

paired with unparalleled creativity. You're sure to go crazy over this

colorful presentation of more than a dozen of the Museum's most bold and

beautiful quilts.

jean

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 103657 -0600 (Central Standard Time)

FromMary Persyn <Mary.Persyn@valpo.edu>

I had a request for the web address for the crazy quilt

article I mentioned in an earlier message. I found the

article in a fee-based service called Lexis-Nexis. However,

I checked the CS Monitor's website and the article is there

(with pictures, Lexis-Nexis is text only). The URL is

http//www.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/03/24/fp18s1-csm.shtml

Mary

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DateWed, 24 Mar 99 190941 EST

From"Bob Mills" <decision@tigger.jvnc.net>

The reason I wrote about buying no more tops or lumpy tops several days ago

was that I am very frustrated trying to make the top reasonably flat that I

bought in Omaha. (Not from Nancy.) Also creating and filling in the edges,

when nothing could be accurately measured for size.

To give myself a break and do something easy, I decided to sandwich and

baste the Streak of Lightening from the doubled sided quilt I brought to

Omaha. I hadn't ironed it after washing it and started to wonder as I

pressed the top. Sure enough, a large half of a beach ball in the middle

and various spots with smaller tennis size bulges when I spread it on the floor.

I was especially glum because I just acquired for peanuts a lovely 1870-80's

hexagon quilt with a secondary pattern of large stars. Lovely material,

bright colors, very large and extremely uneven. Evident even just holding

it up. The hexagons aren't quite hexagons and it is a mystery why or how

the quilter continued to pleat these pieces together. The only solution

would be to-------unstitch and recut and resew each hexagon.

In the meantime, the Streak of Lightening has been taken apart into squares

and I will square them and resew. And since it is so far apart, I might

just as well replace a few of the pieces that look coffee-stained with clean

vintage fabric.

Things are so bad that I lied to my husband when he asked if i was going to

take the entire quilt top apart. "Oh no, just a few sections." I am the

only person in this town-maybe county -who has to vacuum herself several

times a day to pick off the threads from my clothes I am wearing! A little

bit of forward progress will help my spirits.

Jan Drechsler (not Bob)

http//ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bobmills/jan.html

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 135847 -0300

Fromsusan silva <woody@ior.com>

Topepcory@bmd.clis.com

Dear Pepper,

As a QHL person, and lover of all quilts, I must say that I was shocked

when I read your post about your book not selling well. As a past

president of my guild, (Spokane Valley Quilters)current newsletter

editor, and owner of many, many quilt books, magazines etc...YOUR BOOK

IS MY VERY FAVORITE BOOK! It inspires me and I just love everything

about the book. It was my guide when I inked drawings on my (3 years in

the works) applique quilt. Starting with one inking, it looked so

awesome I did the other 11 blocks. It will be a prize winner this year

(i hope)and your section on writings,techniques, tracings etc, was my

hands on guide.Also in my collection I have 6 red/green applique blocks

where the signatures deteriorated because of the ink, as your example

shows on page 36 of your book.

For any quilter, this is a must own book for your library!Thanks Pepper

and Susan for your inspirational book.

Sincerely,

Susan C.Silva in Sunny Spokane Washington

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 192147 -0500

FromBarb Garrett <bgarrett@fast.net>

I can't speak for the difficulties in getting a quilt history book

published, but I do know that it has ranged from very difficult to

impossible to buy a quilt history book even when you know the title,

author, publisher. I am speaking pre-QHL days, but during that time I

would visit many quilt shops and ask if they could order a book -- it

never was on the shelf. I was told that "it's one of those history

books, and they don't sell, so we don't carry them." And they would not

special order it for me. They perceived that their customers wanted

patterns, and "those books don't have any patterns in them." And when

I would say the publisher was Rutledge Hill (my favorite publisher),

that was an automatic kiss of death. I had many shop owners tell me

they never buy books by Rutledge, they prefer That Patchwork Place -

those are the kinds of books their customers want. It was useless to

explain that I wanted to be a potential customer, so...

I was delighted to discover I could buy my books once a year -- at the

Lancaster Show. After visiting the antique dealers booths -- yes, I

know exactly where Xenia is located and have been visiting her since

before I knew her name -- my next stop was the big book dealer. I had

to get there fairly early because he would only bring about 3 of some of

the history books -- I guess he didn't want to take up much space on

these books nobody wants <grin>. Yes, we are a small niche in the big

quilt picture, but it seems we may be part of a self-fulfilling prophecy

-- nobody wants the books, so nobody will publish them and nobody

carries them if they are published, so nobody can buy them, so

obviously, nobody wanted them in the first place since nobody is buying

them. A weird kind of logic.

So, we need to be grateful for those who self publish like Jeannette

Lesansky and those who can get Rutlege Hill to listen like Merikay --

her Civil War book appears to be popular with non-quilters as well as

quilters because of it's history, and doesn't have any patterns. But my

local quilt shops still won't carry it because of the publisher, and

several have shown me "this better Civil War" book "because it has

patterns". They don't understand that it's hard to sell a book if they

won't carry it on their shelf.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrett@fast.net>

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 202742 EST

FromSaraLMcN@aol.com

Another great source for books that I recently found is the MAQS bookstore in

Paducah, they have a great selection. I have called them twice in the last

year and they have sent books to me at home.

Pepper, I have never seen your book. Would you give us the ISBN number, so I

could try to find it.

Sara

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 184347 -0800

FromJudith Brainerd <jnrbrainerd@home.com>

ToQHL@cuenet.com

I'm trying to date a White treadle sewing machine and can't find any

websites dealing with dating a White. Does anyone know where I can get

this machine dated or maybe a book that would help?

Thanks!

Judith Brainerd

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 141610 -0400

FromLorraine Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>

Me To!! Me To!!!

I bought wonderful old treadle in an full Oak cabinet all in very good

condition. It is a dream to use. I know White machines were made in

Cincinati, but I would love to know the year.

I believe there is a phone number that you can call and if you have the

serial number, they will give you the date, but I am in Australia and do

not know the number. I believe it is a 1800 number.

If you find out, please let me know.

Lorraine in OZ

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 223829 -0500

From"J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>

Carol,

So, how do you store templates/stencils that are 30" long by 10" wide? I

certainly don't want to fold them!

And the poster/calendars that many of these are on, 20 years worth, are

incredibly interesting to read. Lots of history, almanac stuff, timetables,

household hints.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 201724 -0800 (PST)

FromJackie Joy <jjoy@med.unr.edu>

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 JQuilt@aol.com wrote

> Isn't it about time to replace paper with electronics...(a cyber quilt

magazine)

> would take up a lotttttt less space and save a lot of trees....

>

> What do you think?

I think it would be difficult to read it in the bathroom.;-)

Jackie Joy

jjoy@med.unr.edu

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 044023 -0500

FromLynn and Debbie Cupp <lcupp@erols.com>

For sewing machines? ;>

Go to ismacs.net

Glean what you can from their generous online information and if you

can't find what you are looking for there, feel free to join the ISMACS

discussion list. We collect sewing machines and feel this is the best

resource for all models. The featherweight list is helpful, too, but

for the old models this is a very comprehensive discussion group. The

featherweight group, Featherweight Fanatics, has a subscription fee

after a free trial period now. Ismacs is free.

Debbie

Lorraine Olsson wrote

>

> Me To!! Me To!!!

> I bought wonderful old treadle in an full Oak cabinet all in very good

> condition. It is a dream to use. I know White machines were made in

> Cincinati, but I would love to know the year.

> I believe there is a phone number that you can call and if you have the

> serial number, they will give you the date, but I am in Australia and do

> not know the number. I believe it is a 1800 number.

>

> If you find out, please let me know.

>

> Lorraine in OZ

>

> Judith Brainerd wrote

> >

> > I'm trying to date a White treadle sewing machine and can't find any

> > websites dealing with dating a White. Does anyone know where I can get

> > this machine dated or maybe a book that would help?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Judith Brainerd

> >

> > Q-Toons

> > Quilt designs to tickle your funnybone!

> > Judith@qtoons.com

> > http//www.qtoons.com

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 085021 EST

FromCToczek@aol.com

ToQHL@cuenet.com

SubjectQHLweb and mags

Message-ID<74851876.36fa3f1d@aol.com>

Content-typetext/plain; charsetUS-ASCII

Content-transfer-encoding7bit

Jean and others, I love the web and the fact I can learn, surf and shop across

the nation...and the world, but I wouldn't trade my noon break with newspaper,

book or quilt magazines for anything in the world. The tactile sense of

holding those articles at my leisure is as pleasurable as my quilting time.

With DH, I am encouraging computer literacy with my two young boys, but I

hope, as well, to instill in them a love of the printed word and the quiet

moments of reading.

<G> Even though it seems I'm in the minority (quilt worldwide) that wishes to

see more variety in the pattern magazines, I keep buying them. I guess I'm

fostering that circle of non-publishing, huh?

Best to you all,

Carla

West Point, NY

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 092245 -0600

FromDSefton@kcstar.com

Hi quilters, Dru from KC here. Saw this on the Associated Press wire and

thought it might be of interest.

{Cabin Creek Quilts fights catalog retailer Orvis over name}<

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) _ It is the apparel world's version of the big guy

and the small

fry.<

The small quilting cooperative, Cabin Creek Quilts, has been here before,

defending its turf in

successful fights with Wal-Mart and the Smithsonian Institution.<

Now the Appalachian group is battling Orvis Co. Inc., contending the

Manchester, Vt.-based

company improperly marketed a foreign-made quilt as a ``Cabin Creek Quilt''

and ``an Orvis

exclusive.''<

``We're tired of this David-and-Goliath stuff,'' co-op manager and

founder David Thibeault said

Wednesday. ``They are playing fast and loose with our name, and we're not

going to let them get away with it.''<

The cooperative has about 25 people actively working, and earns about

$350,000 a year. A

productive quilter can complete about one quilt a month.<

While Orvis was selling its quilt for $239 for a twin-bed size, handmade

Cabin Creek Quilts

made by West Virginians working out of their homes often run in the

thousand-dollar range.<

Orvis shipped out an estimated 20 million summer 1999 gift and clothing

catalogs advertising

its quilt, and Thibeault said the cooperative wants Orvis to print a

half-page clarification in its

next catalog.<

An Orvis spokesman said the company made ``an honest mistake'' and has

removed the

offending article from its Internet order site.<

The co-op has fought repeatedly to protect its name since its founding in

1970. Its aggressive

approach persuaded Wal-Mart to stop using the ``Cobble Creek Quilts'' name

on machine-made

quilts from China.<

The Smithsonian later made a deal with Cabin Creek to reproduce a

Smithsonian design and

sell it through Lands' End after a fight over quilting patterns.<

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 151922 -0000

From"Sally Ward" <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk>

Buying American quilting books in (or from) the UK is fraught with

problems. Not in terms of actually buying - on-line that is easy. But

rather, judging whether what you are looking at is worthwhile. This is

an occasion when you really do have to judge a book by its cover.

Without actually handling a book, it is very hard to know what the

content will be. I did well when I bought Eileen Trestrain's Dating

Fabrics (heard about through QHL), but wasted just as much money on

Hidden in Plain View (didn't wait for the QHL opinion and should have

done!).

I have burnt out on buying 'pattern' books, but I am fascinated by

textile history and heritage. I have the feeling that there are certain

books which are 'standard issue' to many of you for whom quilt study is

a way of life. I would love to know some recommendations of those books

which have been around long enough for you all to 'take them for

granted'. 20

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 102649 -0600

FromLaura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>

Dru, and all,

It's a good thing my DH is not here to see this post. As a former Orvis

employee, he ( and I) can assure you that the Perkins (that own Orvis) made

no mistake what so ever! and BTW, there is no such thing as an "Orvis

Exclusive" check out any of the other mail order catalogs and you'll find

that shortly after the Orvis catalog is on the market, the same item will

appear in so many others. It's a shame that they have let such a once

lofty and truely admired company sink to such low levels. It's the matter

of the all might dollar and not quality and service any more. If you've

been in one of their stores lately you'll see the same thing that happened

to Cloth World when JoAnn's bought them out.....just an upscale ($$ that

is, not quality) Spencers Gifts!

Orvis did introduce me to the wonderful world of flyfishing, but I'll never

set foot in their stores again!

I'll get off my soap box now!

BTW....anyone want to buy a couple of Orvis flyrods?????<G>

Laura

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DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 120352 +0000

FromBobbie Aug <qwltpro@uswest.net>

I also feel that this trend applies to department stores vs small specialty shops,

grocery stores vs meat markets, auto parts stores that not only sell you the tires, but

put them on, fix your brakes and install new mufflers.

Bobbie Aug

SaraLMcN@aol.com wrote

> I have to agree with Xenia, the diverse nature of quilting makes it hard for

> publishers to focus on one aspect. I know that another problem is obtaining

> material presents a constant challenge, many publications would like input and

> ideas. Readers get discouraged because there is the long wait to see the

> results.

> Another thing that I have noticed and after talking to other vendors is the

> smaller number of historical / reference books being published with not many

> in the works. I think as we continue to see the changes in spending occur in

> the quilting market that there will be a focus on books, etc., that appeal to

> the largest group. While I think our area is the most important, we are a

> small specialty market. There will still be reference books, but they may be

> harder to get published and will really need our support when they are

> introduced.

> Sara

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