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Maybe the circles didn't quite fit together?

Quilters can be inventive when things don't work quite as planned - I sold

a mid 19th-century "Rising Sun" top a couple of months ago that had seven

divisions rather than eight! I doubt that it was planned that way - there

was probably too much fullness with eight wedges. It was a strange shape!

At 11:35 PM 9/23/99 -0400, Alan Kelchner wrote:

>interesting Wedding Ring Variation:

>

>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=166010268

>

>Alan

>never any connection to the dealer

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Maybe the circles didn't quite fit together?

Quilters can be inventive when things don't work quite as planned - I sold a mid 19th-century "Rising Sun" top a couple of months ago that had seven divisions rather than eight! I doubt that it was planned that way - there was probably too much fullness with eight wedges. It was a strange shape!

At 11:35 PM 9/23/99 -0400, Alan Kelchner wrote:

interesting Wedding Ring Variation:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=166010268

Alan
never any connection to the dealer

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:09:05 +0400

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Saying goodbye to Doreen

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i am passing on this message for anyone who might like to attend

Doreen's funeral:

<Hi everyone

I have just talked with Megan Speckman, and have the information about

Doreen's funeral for those of you who were close to her. 

Visitation will be Saturday Morning from 10am-Noon, followed by the

funeral and a luncheon.  Fitch, Lawrence, San Fillippo, Cress Funeral

Home,  6021 University Ave. Madison, WI  53705   phone:  608-238-8406

Please pass it on to anyone you know who may be interested.

I don't know about you but I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach.

I

will miss her terribly.

Caryl

Caryl Bryer Fallert

The Bryerpatch Studio: Art Quilts, Hand Dyed Fabrics, & Patterns

http://www.bryerpatch.com>

Xenia

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:22 -0600 (CST)

From: magee@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG

To: J. G. Row <Judygrow@blast.net>

Cc: Quilt History List <QHL@cuenet.com>

Subject: QHL: Re:Stuff

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To all of you who were at the Restoration Conference with me, I wish to

thank you for your thoughts and prayers.  My husband has survived a

chainsaw cut and the ensuing flesh eating bacteria that took the flesh

off his left leg from the ankle to his waist.  He had hyperbaric

sessions, surgury and major doses of antibiotics.  They have started the

grafting process and we have hopes that it will go well.  He will be in

the hospital at least 6 more weeks.  They have told us that the survival

rate is less than 20% so we are incredibly lucky and blessed as well. It

certainly has been several helluva weeks.  Laurie

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:09:34 -0400

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrow@blast.net>

To: "Quilt History List" <QHL@cuenet.com

After I signed off and shut down last night I found another quilt in that

same 4-eagles plus center rosette pattern.  This one was in the book of the

quilts from the James collection that went to Japan , and it has a dark

background, whereas the ones on e-bay are white.  But it is definitely from

the same basic pattern.  The book dated it 1880.

I bet if I keep looking I'll find some more documented.

Anybody have any real information?

Judy in Ringoes, NJ

judygrow@blast.net

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:12:54 -0400

From: Barb Garrett <bgarrett@fast.net>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Eagle quilts

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Judy and others -

Well, after an exciting day walking around Shupps Extravaganza -- and

finding a few tidbits to buy -- and getting an up close and personal

look at Marilyn Kowaleski's items in tomorrow's auction -- you could

actually pick up and study the items -- I found some information about

the 4 eagle quilts.   I've always thought of them as being PA quilts,

with alot of them being PA German.    Here's why --

Trish Herr writes in "In the Heart of PA, Symposium Papers" --  Eagle

quilts appear to nest in PA.  Although white fabric was used in

southeastern PA examples, many have orange or yellow and sometimes even

blue or colored print cloth as the background.  These Eagle quilts, some

dated, were made well into the 20th century.  Typical group of four

eagles with something resembling cigars clutched in their beaks, the

center is completed with a circular star-like motif, and various

borders.

Jeannette Lasansky shows several pictures of eagle quilts in her book

"In the Heart of Pennsylvania".   She says -- As early as 1876 another

phenomenon occurred here (Snyder and Union Counties) -- the emergence of

the Eagle applique as a favorite.   Often thought by present quilt

owners to be unique, it was anything but.   Although a printed period

source still eludes researchers, it must have existed because of the

marked similarity in the eagle's basic body construction and layout and

the consistent overall format of the three dozen "unique" quilts seen

(at their documentations).  It was a pattern so popular here that it was

frequently made again in the 1920s as a copy of "Grandmother's".  A

number of the area's nineteenth century Eagle appliques had dates from

the 1880s sewn in them or show provenance from that period.   The

earliest known example was a crib quilt by Susanne Beahm of Centre

County for her daughter born June 1876.  The date of the girl's birth

lends credence that this pattern was stimulated by the country's

centennial or, as Florence Peto maintained in an early article, that it

appeared at the time of the Civil War as a patriotic Union quilt.

The intriguing aspect of this group of quilts is how uniformly rigid

certain aspects are: the use of the shield as the eagle's torso, the

wide-open wing spread, the fan-shaped tail, the very simplistic neck,

head and beak, the placement of the four eagles on an angle to the

quilt's corners, and the use of central concentric circles or wreaths.

Other aspects change dramatically from one quilt to the next: the shape

and placement of the birds' feet as well as what they carry in their

beaks: a basket, cherries, a stuffed cherry, a ring, a leaf, or stick.

The quilting on all but two of the examples is fairly rudimentary with

the overall applique design appearing to dominate the piece.   Several

exhibit some invention with scalloped quilting read as feathers.

My comments -- In looking at the pictures again that Judy sent, the

quilt appears to be an early one and the top a later one.   Notice how

much fancier the feet are on the quilt, and the border is much more

intricate on the quilt also.   Not to mention the use of orange instead

of the later pale yellow.    Has anyone found these quilts anywhere else

besides PA?   I've always thought of them as central PA quilts, so would

be interested to learn if they are found elsewhere.  Thanks for any

information.

Barb in southeastern PA

<bgarrett@fast.net>

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:14:25 EDT

From: Palampore@aol.com

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Flood Relief continued

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Thank you so very much for all of the notes I have received and the

outpouring of generosity.  I have had 2 from VA to even volunteer to drive

down to help wash quilts.  We are not to that yet, but it could get crazy.

Yesterday and today I mailed and hand delivered 50 copies of a 4 page article

I put together with your help and the help on many wonderful sites on the

Internet.  It is entitled "How to Care For & Salvage Your Textiles After a

Flood".  The article tells how to handle all wet textiles intitially and then

the many options to choose from ---------bath tub wash, machine wash, freeze,

dry cleaner, professional conservation, etc.  I also gave them a long list of

sites that offer info. on taking care of flood damaged textiles, paper,

photographs, and important papers.  I put in a note about you gals and told

how grand and supportive you have been by sharing info.

I sent it to quilt guilds, county extension office, fabric shops, newspaper,

TV station, and churches who have salvage crews.  This afternoon I got a call

from the local TV station and they did a 2 min. interview with me tonight

about the article and it's info.  It was way too short and I didn't get in

much info. but they are willing to mail and distribute the article to

whomever wants it.  I was elated that they are doing that!  The county

extension office is putting it on their web site and sending it to the other

extension offices.  I must now get it to other newspapers and TV stations.

The waters are finally beginning to recede at 6 ins. to a ft. a day.  Marta

had a quilt that was at the QRConference in Omaha which had been in a flood. 

It was brown from the water of a flood.  I bet eastern NC will have a bunch

of brown quilts once all of that water goes down........ But hopefully, they

will keep them and treasure them still even though they might be a different

color. 

Some of you asked for the article.  Once I figure out how to load it to share

I will let you know.  Speaking of sharing....I told the guilds that some of

you have offered to share fabric with those who might have lost fabric in the

flood.  When I hear from them I will let you folks know.

Another note-----Pepper Cory's book on quilt marking techniques is out.  It

tells all about marking tools, choosing designs to go with certain fabrics,

stencils are shown and instructions given on using and making them, tricks of

the trade are given like how to do corner designs .......  All of these

techniques that can get you ready to quilt by hand or machine.  The

photography is great and  she has a super variety of new and old quilts with

lovely quilting on them.  (I think Kris has the book for the sell.)  It is

fun to read as well.  It is just like sitting down and having a talk with

Pepper.  And she is a great conversationalist.  You will become very attached

to this book immediately.

Thanks again, Lynn in New Bern, NC

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:36:19 -0400 (EDT)

From: JOCELYNM@delphi.com

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: QHL: Fs and ss

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THe 's' that looks like an 'f' came from early printing presses. I forget

what were the rules about when you used an elogated s and when you used a

regular s, but there WERE rules.

Also, the Y as in 'ye olde' was a 'thorn', or Old English 'letter' for 'th'.

So the 'ye' in 'ye olde' was really pronounced 'the' (not as in God rest

ye).

Historically, people spelled things any old which way. Webster was the

pioneer for standardized American spellings- it was only after WE started

saying that each word had one and only one right spelling, that the English

started the same rule. That's why we and they have different spellings,

because we'd already split away from the Empire, and Canada uses British

spellings.

There are princesses of England that no one knows what they were called,

because at different times they spelled their own names Joan, Joanna, Jane,

etc. It could be that they were named one and nicknamed the other...but

since they rarely wrote except on legal documents, you'd expect that they'd

use their legal name all the time, and not sign a nickname.

Jocelyn

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:51:06 -0400

From: Alan Kelchner <quiltfix@mail.jax.bellsouth.net>

To: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judy@chesco.com>

CC: ".Quilt Heritage List" <qhl@cuenet.com>

Subject: Re: QHL: interesting ....

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I was hoping someone might have an idea on this, I surely didn't.  Oh,

and I spend a lot of time on eBay looking' at the pics ......  Actually

bought one, have returned another. Thank goodness I'm not addicted!

Alan

"Judy Kelius (judysue)" wrote:

> Maybe the circles didn't quite fit together?

>

> Quilters can be inventive when things don't work quite as planned - I

> sold a mid 19th-century "Rising Sun" top a couple of months ago that

> had seven divisions rather than eight! I doubt that it was planned

> that way - there was probably too much fullness with eight wedges. It

> was a strange shape!

>

> At 11:35 PM 9/23/99 -0400, Alan Kelchner wrote:

>

>> interesting Wedding Ring Variation:

>>

>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=166010268

>>

>> Alan

>> never any connection to the dealer

>

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:56:36 -0700

From: pastcrafts@erols.com

Hi guys,

  I just got back from one of the Washington/Baltimore area's best (Re:

some affordable prices) antique shows: The Tobacco Barn Show in Upper

Marlboro, Md.  A very long running show that benefits the local parish

and school complete with local (wonderful) food sold at the concession.

A dealer there had a set of 4 quilt clamps.  They are wrought iron, in

mint condition, $65.00 for the set.  They look like my husband's wood

working c clamps but are curved.  The dealer is just lovely, cares about

her things and was thrilled that I knew what they were - most visitors

do not.  She does not usually carry sewing/ textile related things.  Her

booth is mostly late victorian kitchen stuff and brass kickknacks of the

period.  I took her card.  She seems to want them to go to a happy home

where they will be appreciated.  The show goes through Sunday the 26th.

I can give the dealer info to anyone - e-mail me or call my 800

number(1-800-507-9356)

   If you are with in striking distance it is a fun eckeltic mix of real

kitsch, golden oak, and some really wonderfull stuff - like 18th c. iron

cooking and very early lighting impliments& some really amazing

samplers.  Quite a few quilts including a knock your socks off chrome

yellow 4 quadrant (like a 4 block but a wholecloth chrome yellow

background) floral applique that the dealer claimed was 3rd quarter 19th

and Moravian @$2300.  Her booth had the quality to back up the claim -

but she was very "sharp" in the unflattering New England sense of the

word!

  There was also a really terrific pinapple log cabin in mid 19th c.

fabrics.  I couldn't really get to it to examine it, but that dealer

also had really good stuff, was very nice and welcoming, & her other

prices were fair.  This has great visual appeal for a mere $1450.00 

  I actually bought a quilt, a first for me ( I have cats!) but it is an

mid 19th c. red and white oak leaf applique top which was backed and

bound & quilted c. 1900 from the looks of the stitching , etc.  The

price was fair - especially after I asked him for his best price!  The

dealer does not usually deal in textiles so what did he know!

  I also got a tiny sampler dated 1839 just the alphabet and numbers.

It was done by English orphans in the industrial period as proof of

their needle skills - a sort of "resume".  They were usually part of a

book.  I had read about them - but had never seen one.  I do not think

that we did that in the US or at least I haven't seen any references to

it.  Do any of you English QHLers have any more info?

Cheers

Newbie in Alexandria, Va.

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